Re: Smilies Mafia - Day 3
Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2021 11:08 pm
ok game has been derailed
I AM TOWN. EVERYONE ELSE IS A SCUM. @MartinGG99 Sorry for the guest appearance I'll be going now.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 11:08 pmPoison! I didn't see you until now, what do you think of the game so far?
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 11:18 pm Oh my lord, she actually responded HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Ender casually seeing the futureEnderWiggin wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 11:18 pm I bet you anything Rondo is cracking up rn.
If he isn't it's because he hasn't seen this yet.
Honestly I have no issues with the way dyson used their ability. Getting 3 clears is by far the most optimal use of it. Dyson when you have time can you please elaborate what made myself Scotty and rondo your top 3 townreads ?Dyson sphere wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 4:58 pmI've read that question a couple times in the thread now. OK, so first, to remind you, this is only the third game of mafia that I have played in a very long time and even when I did play it a long time ago, I never strategized as much as people in professional mafia communities do. (Plus I died early in the first of these three, so it doesn't even count)falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 3:51 pmI'm still not buying Dyson's claim either (who looks for town & not scum w/ an investigation?), but that slot should resolve itself. Gav tho, nah I just don't see it.Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 3:49 pmIf much rather believe dyson’s ludicrous role over any info Gav has supposedly gainedfalcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 3:48 pmThe 2X mailman & neighborizer also gets mech info on a town slot? So, Dyson got 3, and Gav got 1?Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 3:45 pmHe's hinting mechanical information imo.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 3:35 pmA big part of it is Gav's confidence in his TR on me. He's got no reason to be so confident, and doesn't have a track record (like for example TSP does) of accurately reading me, so I have no clue how he could be so confident
I mean, at what point is this just ludicrous?
And secondly, as people pointed out, it is a weird claim, not a typical cop claim. Now if I were scum, I wouldn't have come up with it, but I concede that someone on my team could have coached me to give a fake claim.
Now, as a town player, I actually didn't know for sure who other people clearly read as towncore. In my mind, no one was confirmed town, so I didn't know that I should have ignored any players for being towncleared already. So I picked the ones that I thought were towniest, and I had hoped that I had gotten the right ones, but I had no idea they were already cleared.
And if you're asking why I didn't pick poe players instead, I was under the impression that a result saying all three targets were the same alignment (town) would be more useful to town game, because it's unambiguous. Maybe you guys with all your strategizing might have enlightened me why an ambiguous result would be more useful than an unambiguous result. But at the time, knowing that I don't have any particularly insightful cases of my own to make, didn't deem it wise to share my ability before I had the chance to use it. Now it's done.
Maybe we'll have some more time later to discuss the usefulness of an ambiguous versus an unambiguous result. I just know, had I picked two users who I'm pretty sure are town (and I don't have strong trust in my own townreads) and one user that I think was poe, and the result was an ambiguous answer, then I still wouldn't know for sure whether my poe pick was scum or whether my poe pick was town and one or two of my town picks were scum, or maybe even all three scum.
Again, I don't know half as much about game strategy as you all, but I think personally, I would always prefer an unambiguous result. Even if I picked my top 3 scum reads, it might just be one of them scum and the other two innocent, but an ambiguous result would make me doubt all of them. Because it could also be two scum or all three scum.
I hope that answers not just this post I quoted but also some other questions directed towards me that I read in the thread. I should have posted more today, but I really had a lot to deal with today. I won't be able to post anything else for 16 hours starting now, but then I should have time to make a couple more high quality posts.
We all know you won’t vote Jack.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 11:08 pmlet's do it and see where we end up tbh tbh
but i'd like to like remove gavial as an agent of chaos and I'd like to do that before he does whatever he normally does and the world collapses
Orrrrrr
Assuming people are smart and take my word and my analysis for it then we auto win as Falcon will be locked town.Lime Coke wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 12:20 am Keep in mind we have like...5 potential clears? Dyson and his 3 "Innos," Rondo with the jailkeep.
Possibly Gavial with the neighborhood that he's used on Falcon? If Gavial thinks Falcon is town based off of the neighborhood then who am I to question it?
That leaves only a few people that can be mafia.
Ok yeah just in case it is Ender and Jack and I’m wrong on TSP.Lime Coke wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 12:20 am Keep in mind we have like...5 potential clears? Dyson and his 3 "Innos," Rondo with the jailkeep.
Possibly Gavial with the neighborhood that he's used on Falcon? If Gavial thinks Falcon is town based off of the neighborhood then who am I to question it?
That leaves only a few people that can be mafia.
What exactly do you mean? Like he can or can’t make the play?EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 1:08 am If we flip a green Rondo is off the leash to make the big brain plays I know he's capable of.
They will if they know they’ll be roleblocked.RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 1:18 amits unlikely they give kill to jack again IF jack was the wolf
so who are you blocking while I jail?Gavial wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 1:22 amThey will if they know they’ll be roleblocked.RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 1:18 amits unlikely they give kill to jack again IF jack was the wolf
He can. And big brain because I was saying he could be big brain?Gavial wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 1:12 amWhat exactly do you mean? Like he can or can’t make the play?EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 1:08 am If we flip a green Rondo is off the leash to make the big brain plays I know he's capable of.
Why specifically mention “big brain” out of what I said regarding you/Jack/rondo and not mention anything else?
No he's saying if Jack is part of the team then if you're going to jail the other member then the other member makes Jack take the kill.RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 1:34 amso who are you blocking while I jail?Gavial wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 1:22 amThey will if they know they’ll be roleblocked.RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 1:18 amits unlikely they give kill to jack again IF jack was the wolf
well whats the point of that? I was talking about blocking both so you get both blocks. If we have a hypothetical 'other' there is no point really talking about it. I wanted to know who he thinks the other person isEnderWiggin wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 2:25 amNo he's saying if Jack is part of the team then if you're going to jail the other member then the other member makes Jack take the kill.RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 1:34 amso who are you blocking while I jail?Gavial wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 1:22 amThey will if they know they’ll be roleblocked.RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 1:18 amits unlikely they give kill to jack again IF jack was the wolf
If your Jailkeeper you roleblock and protect.RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 1:34 amso who are you blocking while I jail?Gavial wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 1:22 amThey will if they know they’ll be roleblocked.RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 1:18 amits unlikely they give kill to jack again IF jack was the wolf
There was no claim I wanted to see your reaction.EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 2:23 amWait claim?
I've been focusing on other things but I didn't see a claim
Show me
And what do you think?Gavial wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 8:51 amThere was no claim I wanted to see your reaction.EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 2:23 amWait claim?
I've been focusing on other things but I didn't see a claim
Here you are explaining my role to me which I already knowGavial wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 8:50 amIf your Jailkeeper you roleblock and protect.RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 1:34 amso who are you blocking while I jail?Gavial wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 1:22 amThey will if they know they’ll be roleblocked.RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 1:18 amits unlikely they give kill to jack again IF jack was the wolf
here is me asking you who you are role blocking while I jail someone else in the hypothetical world where we block both wolvesGavial wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 8:50 amIf your Jailkeeper you roleblock and protect.RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 1:34 amso who are you blocking while I jail?Gavial wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 1:22 amThey will if they know they’ll be roleblocked.RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 1:18 amits unlikely they give kill to jack again IF jack was the wolf
This makes no senseGavial wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 8:50 amIf your Jailkeeper you roleblock and protect.RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 1:34 amso who are you blocking while I jail?Gavial wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 1:22 amThey will if they know they’ll be roleblocked.RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 1:18 amits unlikely they give kill to jack again IF jack was the wolf
ughhhh I will put my tinfoil away then