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Re: Smilies Mafia - Day 3

Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2021 11:08 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
ok game has been derailed

Re: Smilies Mafia - Day 3

Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2021 11:10 pm
by Poison
falcon45ca wrote: Wed Sep 01, 2021 11:08 pm
Poison wrote: Wed Sep 01, 2021 11:03 pm I AM NOT IN THIS GAME @RondoDimBuckle GWWWWWWAAA
Poison! I didn't see you until now, what do you think of the game so far?
I AM TOWN. EVERYONE ELSE IS A SCUM. @MartinGG99 Sorry for the guest appearance I'll be going now.

Re: Smilies Mafia - Day 3

Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2021 11:10 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
tbh mafia needs more guest appearances

Re: Smilies Mafia - Day 3

Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2021 11:18 pm
by EnderWiggin
I bet you anything Rondo is cracking up rn.

If he isn't it's because he hasn't seen this yet.

Re: Smilies Mafia - Day 3

Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2021 11:18 pm
by RondoDimBuckle
Oh my lord, she actually responded HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Re: Smilies Mafia - Day 3

Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2021 11:19 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
timed

Re: Smilies Mafia - Day 3

Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2021 11:20 pm
by RondoDimBuckle
RondoDimBuckle wrote: Wed Sep 01, 2021 11:18 pm Oh my lord, she actually responded HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
EnderWiggin wrote: Wed Sep 01, 2021 11:18 pm I bet you anything Rondo is cracking up rn.

If he isn't it's because he hasn't seen this yet.
Ender casually seeing the future

Re: Smilies Mafia - Day 3

Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2021 11:47 pm
by ilario
Dyson sphere wrote: Wed Sep 01, 2021 4:58 pm
falcon45ca wrote: Wed Sep 01, 2021 3:51 pm
Scotty wrote: Wed Sep 01, 2021 3:49 pm
falcon45ca wrote: Wed Sep 01, 2021 3:48 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Wed Sep 01, 2021 3:45 pm
falcon45ca wrote: Wed Sep 01, 2021 3:35 pm
Scotty wrote: Wed Sep 01, 2021 3:28 pm [VOTE: Gavial] aubergine
A big part of it is Gav's confidence in his TR on me. He's got no reason to be so confident, and doesn't have a track record (like for example TSP does) of accurately reading me, so I have no clue how he could be so confident
He's hinting mechanical information imo.
The 2X mailman & neighborizer also gets mech info on a town slot? So, Dyson got 3, and Gav got 1?


I mean, at what point is this just ludicrous?
If much rather believe dyson’s ludicrous role over any info Gav has supposedly gained
I'm still not buying Dyson's claim either (who looks for town & not scum w/ an investigation?), but that slot should resolve itself. Gav tho, nah I just don't see it.
I've read that question a couple times in the thread now. OK, so first, to remind you, this is only the third game of mafia that I have played in a very long time and even when I did play it a long time ago, I never strategized as much as people in professional mafia communities do. (Plus I died early in the first of these three, so it doesn't even count)

And secondly, as people pointed out, it is a weird claim, not a typical cop claim. Now if I were scum, I wouldn't have come up with it, but I concede that someone on my team could have coached me to give a fake claim.

Now, as a town player, I actually didn't know for sure who other people clearly read as towncore. In my mind, no one was confirmed town, so I didn't know that I should have ignored any players for being towncleared already. So I picked the ones that I thought were towniest, and I had hoped that I had gotten the right ones, but I had no idea they were already cleared.

And if you're asking why I didn't pick poe players instead, I was under the impression that a result saying all three targets were the same alignment (town) would be more useful to town game, because it's unambiguous. Maybe you guys with all your strategizing might have enlightened me why an ambiguous result would be more useful than an unambiguous result. But at the time, knowing that I don't have any particularly insightful cases of my own to make, didn't deem it wise to share my ability before I had the chance to use it. Now it's done.

Maybe we'll have some more time later to discuss the usefulness of an ambiguous versus an unambiguous result. I just know, had I picked two users who I'm pretty sure are town (and I don't have strong trust in my own townreads) and one user that I think was poe, and the result was an ambiguous answer, then I still wouldn't know for sure whether my poe pick was scum or whether my poe pick was town and one or two of my town picks were scum, or maybe even all three scum.

Again, I don't know half as much about game strategy as you all, but I think personally, I would always prefer an unambiguous result. Even if I picked my top 3 scum reads, it might just be one of them scum and the other two innocent, but an ambiguous result would make me doubt all of them. Because it could also be two scum or all three scum.

I hope that answers not just this post I quoted but also some other questions directed towards me that I read in the thread. I should have posted more today, but I really had a lot to deal with today. I won't be able to post anything else for 16 hours starting now, but then I should have time to make a couple more high quality posts.
Honestly I have no issues with the way dyson used their ability. Getting 3 clears is by far the most optimal use of it. Dyson when you have time can you please elaborate what made myself Scotty and rondo your top 3 townreads ?

Re: Smilies Mafia - Day 3

Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2021 11:56 pm
by ilario
Mannnnnn what’s wrong with me? I can’t bring myself to sr gav I find almost all of his posts to be towny

Re: Smilies Mafia - Day 3

Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2021 11:58 pm
by ilario
I need
More from lc today

Re: Smilies Mafia - Day 3

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2021 12:00 am
by ilario
Lime Coke wrote: Wed Sep 01, 2021 10:07 pm If it sounds like I don't care about that answer...I really don't.

I think TSP should be the dust off today though.
Why though??

Re: Smilies Mafia - Day 3

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2021 12:03 am
by EnderWiggin
I have changed my mind.

I could vote LC

Re: Smilies Mafia - Day 3

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2021 12:16 am
by Lime Coke
ilario wrote: Thu Sep 02, 2021 12:00 am
Lime Coke wrote: Wed Sep 01, 2021 10:07 pm If it sounds like I don't care about that answer...I really don't.

I think TSP should be the dust off today though.
Why though??
I was sheeping you. Thought you had the reasoning for it.

Re: Smilies Mafia - Day 3

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2021 12:20 am
by Lime Coke
Keep in mind we have like...5 potential clears? Dyson and his 3 "Innos," Rondo with the jailkeep.

Possibly Gavial with the neighborhood that he's used on Falcon? If Gavial thinks Falcon is town based off of the neighborhood then who am I to question it?

That leaves only a few people that can be mafia.

Re: Smilies Mafia - Day 3

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2021 12:58 am
by Gavial
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Wed Sep 01, 2021 11:08 pm
falcon45ca wrote: Wed Sep 01, 2021 9:20 pm LC, Jack, Dyson is my order of operation rn
let's do it and see where we end up tbh tbh
but i'd like to like remove gavial as an agent of chaos and I'd like to do that before he does whatever he normally does and the world collapses
We all know you won’t vote Jack.

Re: Smilies Mafia - Day 3

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2021 1:00 am
by Gavial
ilario wrote: Wed Sep 01, 2021 11:56 pm Mannnnnn what’s wrong with me? I can’t bring myself to sr gav I find almost all of his posts to be towny
That’s because I’m town :srsnod:

Re: Smilies Mafia - Day 3

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2021 1:01 am
by Gavial
EnderWiggin wrote: Thu Sep 02, 2021 12:03 am I have changed my mind.

I could vote LC
Orrrrrr
We cannot vote an ML on TSP/Jack’s to do list.
@Scotty
See this is what I mean.
How can I know for sure TSP dies tomorrow?

Re: Smilies Mafia - Day 3

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2021 1:02 am
by Gavial
Lime Coke wrote: Thu Sep 02, 2021 12:20 am Keep in mind we have like...5 potential clears? Dyson and his 3 "Innos," Rondo with the jailkeep.

Possibly Gavial with the neighborhood that he's used on Falcon? If Gavial thinks Falcon is town based off of the neighborhood then who am I to question it?

That leaves only a few people that can be mafia.
Assuming people are smart and take my word and my analysis for it then we auto win as Falcon will be locked town.

Or

They say Gavial is Gavial and doesn’t know what he’s talking about and throws the game to TSP and Jack.

Re: Smilies Mafia - Day 3

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2021 1:03 am
by Gavial
Even if it somehow happens to be Ender and Jack.
It’s still auto winnable via Falcon being locked town in everyone’s book.

Re: Smilies Mafia - Day 3

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2021 1:05 am
by Gavial
The issue is though TSP’s posts day 2 don’t feel Townie and neither does his responses today.
He has yet to even pressure let alone case why he SR’s Jack.

Re: Smilies Mafia - Day 3

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2021 1:06 am
by Gavial
Lime Coke wrote: Thu Sep 02, 2021 12:20 am Keep in mind we have like...5 potential clears? Dyson and his 3 "Innos," Rondo with the jailkeep.

Possibly Gavial with the neighborhood that he's used on Falcon? If Gavial thinks Falcon is town based off of the neighborhood then who am I to question it?

That leaves only a few people that can be mafia.
Ok yeah just in case it is Ender and Jack and I’m wrong on TSP.
JK doesn’t clear them when their other buddy can attack.

Re: Smilies Mafia - Day 3

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2021 1:07 am
by Gavial
Like Ender just makes Jack attack.
Although Rondo could make the big brain play and target Jack again

Re: Smilies Mafia - Day 3

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2021 1:07 am
by Gavial
I just kinda wanna vote Jack now.
It just seems like the safest bet.

Re: Smilies Mafia - Day 3

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2021 1:08 am
by EnderWiggin
If we flip a green Rondo is off the leash to make the big brain plays I know he's capable of.

Re: Smilies Mafia - Day 3

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2021 1:10 am
by Gavial
@TonyStarkPrime
What’s your opinion on a Jack yeet today?

@falcon45ca
Would you be willing to yeet Jack before LC?

@EnderWiggin
What’s your full read on Jack? Especially with his claim.

@Scotty
Would you be willing to do Jack after me instead of TSP if I die today?

@ilario
@Lime Coke
Could you guys plz trust me here and vote Jack with me?

Re: Smilies Mafia - Day 3

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2021 1:12 am
by Gavial
EnderWiggin wrote: Thu Sep 02, 2021 1:08 am If we flip a green Rondo is off the leash to make the big brain plays I know he's capable of.
What exactly do you mean? Like he can or can’t make the play?
Why specifically mention “big brain” out of what I said regarding you/Jack/rondo and not mention anything else?

Re: Smilies Mafia - Day 3

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2021 1:18 am
by RondoDimBuckle
Gavial wrote: Thu Sep 02, 2021 1:07 am Like Ender just makes Jack attack.
Although Rondo could make the big brain play and target Jack again
its unlikely they give kill to jack again IF jack was the wolf

Re: Smilies Mafia - Day 3

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2021 1:22 am
by Gavial
RondoDimBuckle wrote: Thu Sep 02, 2021 1:18 am
Gavial wrote: Thu Sep 02, 2021 1:07 am Like Ender just makes Jack attack.
Although Rondo could make the big brain play and target Jack again
its unlikely they give kill to jack again IF jack was the wolf
They will if they know they’ll be roleblocked.

Re: Smilies Mafia - Day 3

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2021 1:26 am
by Gavial
Funny enough at first day 1 I had the pairing of Scotty and Jack aligned with each other but according to Dyson that isn’t possible so lol.

Re: Smilies Mafia - Day 3

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2021 1:34 am
by RondoDimBuckle
Gavial wrote: Thu Sep 02, 2021 1:22 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: Thu Sep 02, 2021 1:18 am
Gavial wrote: Thu Sep 02, 2021 1:07 am Like Ender just makes Jack attack.
Although Rondo could make the big brain play and target Jack again
its unlikely they give kill to jack again IF jack was the wolf
They will if they know they’ll be roleblocked.
so who are you blocking while I jail?

Re: Smilies Mafia - Day 3

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2021 2:23 am
by EnderWiggin
Gavial wrote: Thu Sep 02, 2021 1:10 am @EnderWiggin
What’s your full read on Jack? Especially with his claim.
Wait claim?

I've been focusing on other things but I didn't see a claim

Re: Smilies Mafia - Day 3

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2021 2:24 am
by EnderWiggin
Gavial wrote: Thu Sep 02, 2021 1:12 am
EnderWiggin wrote: Thu Sep 02, 2021 1:08 am If we flip a green Rondo is off the leash to make the big brain plays I know he's capable of.
What exactly do you mean? Like he can or can’t make the play?
Why specifically mention “big brain” out of what I said regarding you/Jack/rondo and not mention anything else?
He can. And big brain because I was saying he could be big brain?

This is really weirdly pedantic about my wording lmao.

Re: Smilies Mafia - Day 3

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2021 2:25 am
by EnderWiggin
RondoDimBuckle wrote: Thu Sep 02, 2021 1:34 am
Gavial wrote: Thu Sep 02, 2021 1:22 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: Thu Sep 02, 2021 1:18 am
Gavial wrote: Thu Sep 02, 2021 1:07 am Like Ender just makes Jack attack.
Although Rondo could make the big brain play and target Jack again
its unlikely they give kill to jack again IF jack was the wolf
They will if they know they’ll be roleblocked.
so who are you blocking while I jail?
No he's saying if Jack is part of the team then if you're going to jail the other member then the other member makes Jack take the kill.

Re: Smilies Mafia - Day 3

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2021 2:51 am
by RondoDimBuckle
EnderWiggin wrote: Thu Sep 02, 2021 2:25 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: Thu Sep 02, 2021 1:34 am
Gavial wrote: Thu Sep 02, 2021 1:22 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: Thu Sep 02, 2021 1:18 am
Gavial wrote: Thu Sep 02, 2021 1:07 am Like Ender just makes Jack attack.
Although Rondo could make the big brain play and target Jack again
its unlikely they give kill to jack again IF jack was the wolf
They will if they know they’ll be roleblocked.
so who are you blocking while I jail?
No he's saying if Jack is part of the team then if you're going to jail the other member then the other member makes Jack take the kill.
well whats the point of that? I was talking about blocking both so you get both blocks. If we have a hypothetical 'other' there is no point really talking about it. I wanted to know who he thinks the other person is

Re: Smilies Mafia - Day 3

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2021 5:25 am
by EnderWiggin
His other is TSP isn't it?

He's been harping on about TSP/Jack for days

Re: Smilies Mafia - Day 3

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2021 8:20 am
by RondoDimBuckle
Isnt it chop today?a

Re: Smilies Mafia - Day 3

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2021 8:50 am
by Gavial
RondoDimBuckle wrote: Thu Sep 02, 2021 1:34 am
Gavial wrote: Thu Sep 02, 2021 1:22 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: Thu Sep 02, 2021 1:18 am
Gavial wrote: Thu Sep 02, 2021 1:07 am Like Ender just makes Jack attack.
Although Rondo could make the big brain play and target Jack again
its unlikely they give kill to jack again IF jack was the wolf
They will if they know they’ll be roleblocked.
so who are you blocking while I jail?
If your Jailkeeper you roleblock and protect.

Re: Smilies Mafia - Day 3

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2021 8:51 am
by Gavial
EnderWiggin wrote: Thu Sep 02, 2021 2:23 am
Gavial wrote: Thu Sep 02, 2021 1:10 am @EnderWiggin
What’s your full read on Jack? Especially with his claim.
Wait claim?

I've been focusing on other things but I didn't see a claim
There was no claim I wanted to see your reaction.

Re: Smilies Mafia - Day 3

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2021 8:52 am
by RondoDimBuckle
you didnt read what I said

Re: Smilies Mafia - Day 3

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2021 8:53 am
by Gavial
RondoDimBuckle wrote: Thu Sep 02, 2021 8:52 am you didnt read what I said
Show me

Re: Smilies Mafia - Day 3

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2021 8:57 am
by EnderWiggin
Gavial wrote: Thu Sep 02, 2021 8:51 am
EnderWiggin wrote: Thu Sep 02, 2021 2:23 am
Gavial wrote: Thu Sep 02, 2021 1:10 am @EnderWiggin
What’s your full read on Jack? Especially with his claim.
Wait claim?

I've been focusing on other things but I didn't see a claim
There was no claim I wanted to see your reaction.
And what do you think?

Re: Smilies Mafia - Day 3

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2021 8:57 am
by RondoDimBuckle
Gavial wrote: Thu Sep 02, 2021 8:50 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: Thu Sep 02, 2021 1:34 am
Gavial wrote: Thu Sep 02, 2021 1:22 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: Thu Sep 02, 2021 1:18 am
Gavial wrote: Thu Sep 02, 2021 1:07 am Like Ender just makes Jack attack.
Although Rondo could make the big brain play and target Jack again
its unlikely they give kill to jack again IF jack was the wolf
They will if they know they’ll be roleblocked.
so who are you blocking while I jail?
If your Jailkeeper you roleblock and protect.
Here you are explaining my role to me which I already know

Gavial wrote: Thu Sep 02, 2021 8:50 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: Thu Sep 02, 2021 1:34 am
Gavial wrote: Thu Sep 02, 2021 1:22 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: Thu Sep 02, 2021 1:18 am
Gavial wrote: Thu Sep 02, 2021 1:07 am Like Ender just makes Jack attack.
Although Rondo could make the big brain play and target Jack again
its unlikely they give kill to jack again IF jack was the wolf
They will if they know they’ll be roleblocked.
so who are you blocking while I jail?
If your Jailkeeper you roleblock and protect.
here is me asking you who you are role blocking while I jail someone else in the hypothetical world where we block both wolves


Otherwise
Gavial wrote: Thu Sep 02, 2021 8:50 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: Thu Sep 02, 2021 1:34 am
Gavial wrote: Thu Sep 02, 2021 1:22 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: Thu Sep 02, 2021 1:18 am
Gavial wrote: Thu Sep 02, 2021 1:07 am Like Ender just makes Jack attack.
Although Rondo could make the big brain play and target Jack again
its unlikely they give kill to jack again IF jack was the wolf
They will if they know they’ll be roleblocked.
so who are you blocking while I jail?
If your Jailkeeper you roleblock and protect.
This makes no sense

Re: Smilies Mafia - Day 3

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2021 8:58 am
by EnderWiggin
He's talking about your Jail roleblocking. Not his own ability.

Re: Smilies Mafia - Day 3

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2021 8:58 am
by EnderWiggin
Also that highlight is terrible.

Re: Smilies Mafia - Day 3

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2021 9:00 am
by RondoDimBuckle
I thought it would work like in a .pdf or .doc

Re: Smilies Mafia - Day 3

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2021 9:40 am
by RondoDimBuckle
[VOTE: no vote ] aubergine

Re: Smilies Mafia - Day 3

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2021 9:41 am
by RondoDimBuckle
I will be here for another hour I need to think about who I am voting since I wont be around at EOD

Re: Smilies Mafia - Day 3

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2021 9:43 am
by EnderWiggin
Do NOT yeet Jack.

Yeet in TSP/Gav.

Re: Smilies Mafia - Day 3

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2021 9:43 am
by RondoDimBuckle
EnderWiggin wrote: Thu Sep 02, 2021 9:43 am Do NOT yeet Jack.

Yeet in TSP/Gav.
ughhhh I will put my tinfoil away then

Re: Smilies Mafia - Day 3

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2021 9:44 am
by EnderWiggin
I keep going back and forth on my LC read rn.