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Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 3]

Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2021 12:06 am
by alexa
MafiaMenace wrote: Thu Nov 18, 2021 12:05 am with my limited shots rather than randomly checking someone i want to use it on those with ambiguous alignments that the town is split on readswise
i just don't get why you save shots knowing you're easily an early kill target? like im legit surprised you lasted til today

Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 3]

Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2021 12:06 am
by alexa
MafiaMenace wrote: Thu Nov 18, 2021 12:05 am
alexa wrote: Thu Nov 18, 2021 12:04 am ya but you could die then we have no more checks???

esp when we now know it's literally a random doctor
i highly doubt that of all the tis i would be the one attacked
but why
you're a cop
lmao

Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 3]

Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2021 12:07 am
by LinearPoint
Honestly MM is confirmed as far as I see it, but yeah in the future you probably don't want to hold onto limited role uses as an outed Cop.
Like Alexa said you shots die with you and Cop is a powerful early game role even if you get a Town result it's still another confirmed person we don't need to worry about not trusting.

Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 3]

Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2021 12:07 am
by NotAnAxehole
alexa wrote: Thu Nov 18, 2021 12:05 am also wdym "no one is necessary for me to check" ur literally a cop u just check whoever lmao
:shrug:

Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 3]

Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2021 12:07 am
by MafiaMenace
i got no idea why tf you tryna have me explain the strategy behind mafias nightkills
like tf kind of answer you want from me

Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 3]

Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2021 12:08 am
by alexa
well i'm obviously not voting you
but just in the future there's no reason to save your shots lol

Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 3]

Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2021 12:08 am
by MafiaMenace
LinearPoint wrote: Thu Nov 18, 2021 12:07 am Honestly MM is confirmed as far as I see it, but yeah in the future you probably don't want to hold onto limited role uses as an outed Cop.
Like Alexa said you shots die with you and Cop is a powerful early game role even if you get a Town result it's still another confirmed person we don't need to worry about not trusting.
a town check means nothing in a game this size and it only places a target on them
again its better used on someone with questionable alignment

Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 3]

Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2021 12:09 am
by NotAnAxehole
Anyway, there are no shortage of good checks in this game can all of the investigative roles please check people tonight?

Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 3]

Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2021 12:11 am
by alexa
NotAnAxehole: nothing mechanically clearing them, though i do gut TR this slot and they weirdly have a similar mindset to me despite being a troll
Ruri: claims ... cop giver? seems sketch
MafiaMenace: cop claim so should be "clear" but i had a weird dream and am slightly sketched by this slot. should be clear tho as sane cop.
Jackofhearts2005: random doctor claim
LinearPoint: very towny on play
Michelle: insane cop and TR, top town
Marmot: nada going for them
Paopan: lie detector who literally is so noob they apparently checked someone's claim from d1 who was already confirmed town?????
sig: idk
Son of Anarch: oracle, kind of sketch

Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 3]

Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2021 12:11 am
by NotAnAxehole
There are only 11 players left. Yesterday would have been a good night to check because we knew who the night targets would be (wilgy and mac) - wilgy being night immune and dying anyway is hilarious but yeah, perfect night for investigatives, no chance of your target dying in the night.

Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 3]

Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2021 12:11 am
by alexa
[VOTE: Marmot] aubergine

Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 3]

Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2021 12:12 am
by MafiaMenace
why are you still trying to shoehorn the fact that you had a ‘dream’ that i was lying

Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 3]

Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2021 12:13 am
by NotAnAxehole
alexa wrote: Thu Nov 18, 2021 12:11 am NotAnAxehole: nothing mechanically clearing them, though i do gut TR this slot and they weirdly have a similar mindset to me despite being a troll
Ruri: claims ... cop giver? seems sketch
MafiaMenace: cop claim so should be "clear" but i had a weird dream and am slightly sketched by this slot. should be clear tho as sane cop.
Jackofhearts2005: random doctor claim
LinearPoint: very towny on play
Michelle: insane cop and TR, top town
Marmot: nada going for them
Paopan: lie detector who literally is so noob they apparently checked someone's claim from d1 who was already confirmed town?????
sig: idk
Son of Anarch: oracle, kind of sketch
SoA is basically near-confirmed Oracle though yeah, the only question is whether they are mafia.

Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 3]

Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2021 12:13 am
by LinearPoint
Well a Town check confirms they are Town.
It's particularly really useful if say there were information roles we don't know the alignment of like a second Cop claim or Lie Detector.
For example of course, not saying that applies here.

If you think about it like this, confirming Michelle or Paopan as Town would mean we could trust their results, well if they had any I suppose.
Sure checking a random person might not be the best play, but you felt the need to check Scotty at random and that got information.
I don't see how night 2 would make you hesitate considering there were some pretty good Cop targets on the bored.

Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 3]

Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2021 12:13 am
by alexa
MafiaMenace wrote: Thu Nov 18, 2021 12:12 am why are you still trying to shoehorn the fact that you had a ‘dream’ that i was lying
wtf does shoehorn mean

Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 3]

Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2021 12:13 am
by MafiaMenace
d1 wagons show that soa is town

Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 3]

Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2021 12:14 am
by NotAnAxehole
MafiaMenace wrote: Thu Nov 18, 2021 12:13 am d1 wagons show that soa is town
Right, because Scotty?

Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 3]

Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2021 12:14 am
by MafiaMenace
alexa wrote: Thu Nov 18, 2021 12:13 am
MafiaMenace wrote: Thu Nov 18, 2021 12:12 am why are you still trying to shoehorn the fact that you had a ‘dream’ that i was lying
wtf does shoehorn mean
forcing the inclusion of x thing

Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 3]

Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2021 12:15 am
by MafiaMenace
NotAnAxehole wrote: Thu Nov 18, 2021 12:14 am
MafiaMenace wrote: Thu Nov 18, 2021 12:13 am d1 wagons show that soa is town
Right, because Scotty?
because he didnt in the slightest try and start a counter wagon

Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 3]

Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2021 12:15 am
by alexa
MafiaMenace wrote: Thu Nov 18, 2021 12:14 am
alexa wrote: Thu Nov 18, 2021 12:13 am
MafiaMenace wrote: Thu Nov 18, 2021 12:12 am why are you still trying to shoehorn the fact that you had a ‘dream’ that i was lying
wtf does shoehorn mean
forcing the inclusion of x thing
oh idk i guess because it was like a really eerie dream that is still in my mind lol
but like it doesn't even matter rn anyway

Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 3]

Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2021 12:15 am
by Son of Anarch
Whoever asked me earlier, I can confirm we had an intense rock, paper, scissors match in which we tied and then had to keep submittin' until someone won.

Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 3]

Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2021 12:16 am
by alexa
MafiaMenace wrote: Thu Nov 18, 2021 12:13 am d1 wagons show that soa is town
how

Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 3]

Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2021 12:16 am
by LinearPoint
NotAnAxehole wrote: Thu Nov 18, 2021 12:13 am
alexa wrote: Thu Nov 18, 2021 12:11 am NotAnAxehole: nothing mechanically clearing them, though i do gut TR this slot and they weirdly have a similar mindset to me despite being a troll
Ruri: claims ... cop giver? seems sketch
MafiaMenace: cop claim so should be "clear" but i had a weird dream and am slightly sketched by this slot. should be clear tho as sane cop.
Jackofhearts2005: random doctor claim
LinearPoint: very towny on play
Michelle: insane cop and TR, top town
Marmot: nada going for them
Paopan: lie detector who literally is so noob they apparently checked someone's claim from d1 who was already confirmed town?????
sig: idk
Son of Anarch: oracle, kind of sketch
SoA is basically near-confirmed Oracle though yeah, the only question is whether they are mafia.
I honestly think SoA is solved by Jack's death.
A Doc being confirmed to an Oracle is a bit suspicious to me.
I feel like this implies SoA and Jack aren't the same alignment if either is Mafia. Of course Town Oracle seeing Town Doctor may still be a thing.

Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 3]

Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2021 12:16 am
by alexa
Son of Anarch wrote: Thu Nov 18, 2021 12:15 am Whoever asked me earlier, I can confirm we had an intense rock, paper, scissors match in which we tied and then had to keep submittin' until someone won.
yeah ok but mightyQ was V so IDG why this makes you town.

Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 3]

Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2021 12:17 am
by Son of Anarch
alexa wrote: Thu Nov 18, 2021 12:16 am
Son of Anarch wrote: Thu Nov 18, 2021 12:15 am Whoever asked me earlier, I can confirm we had an intense rock, paper, scissors match in which we tied and then had to keep submittin' until someone won.
yeah ok but mightyQ was V so IDG why this makes you town.
I never said it did, but someone asked me about it so I replied.

Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 3]

Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2021 12:18 am
by Son of Anarch
I wouldn't buss Scotty day 1 anyways. I thought his push on me was the most suspicious out of anyone.

Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 3]

Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2021 12:18 am
by alexa
but seriously what do people think of paopon checking falcon and getting a green result last night when he was already dead town

Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 3]

Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2021 12:20 am
by Son of Anarch
alexa wrote: Thu Nov 18, 2021 12:18 am but seriously what do people think of paopon checking falcon and getting a green result last night when he was already dead town
I think that's hilarious no matter what his alignment is. Didn't he have the same report Scotty said he had? Or they checked the same person, right? Maybe Scotty stole Paopan's claim and Paopan claimed anyways without thinkin'.

Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 3]

Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2021 12:20 am
by NotAnAxehole
alexa wrote: Thu Nov 18, 2021 12:18 am but seriously what do people think of paopon checking falcon and getting a green result last night when he was already dead town
I think he needs better friends, because if I was the mod I would never allow my friend to accidentally do that in their first game on site.

Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 3]

Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2021 12:21 am
by LinearPoint
Well if you look at the d1 votes.
3 people on Wiggly were confirmed Town at this point.
1 person on SoA was confirmed Mafia and 1 was 3rd Party Lyncheer.
If we assume Alexa is not a Mafia 1-Shot Vigilante then that leaves the only unknown on Wiggly's lynch Michelle. so Wiggly seemed to be a Town formed Wagon.
That implies the Mafia had no real interest in lynching Wiggly, but it seemed like the Mafia was wanting SoA dead.
If that was a bus or not is still unknown, but like I said Mafia willingly forcing SoA into a 50/50 with Wiggly is a bit risky.

Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 3]

Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2021 12:22 am
by alexa
Son of Anarch wrote: Thu Nov 18, 2021 12:20 am
alexa wrote: Thu Nov 18, 2021 12:18 am but seriously what do people think of paopon checking falcon and getting a green result last night when he was already dead town
I think that's hilarious no matter what his alignment is. Didn't he have the same report Scotty said he had? Or they checked the same person, right? Maybe Scotty stole Paopan's claim and Paopan claimed anyways without thinkin'.
yeah that was day one, but i'm referring to what pao said today
i'm just surprised no one else has commented on it

Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 3]

Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2021 12:23 am
by alexa
pao is lock town though

Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 3]

Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2021 12:23 am
by NotAnAxehole
Son of Anarch wrote: Thu Nov 18, 2021 12:20 am
alexa wrote: Thu Nov 18, 2021 12:18 am but seriously what do people think of paopon checking falcon and getting a green result last night when he was already dead town
I think that's hilarious no matter what his alignment is. Didn't he have the same report Scotty said he had? Or they checked the same person, right? Maybe Scotty stole Paopan's claim and Paopan claimed anyways without thinkin'.
Yeah paopan claiming the same stupid thing that Scotty did was really weird. It's really hard to tell if he's dumbtelling really hard, or just new and is struggling with communication & interface.

I think the latter is more likely.

Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 3]

Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2021 12:23 am
by LinearPoint
alexa wrote: Thu Nov 18, 2021 12:22 am
Son of Anarch wrote: Thu Nov 18, 2021 12:20 am
alexa wrote: Thu Nov 18, 2021 12:18 am but seriously what do people think of paopon checking falcon and getting a green result last night when he was already dead town
I think that's hilarious no matter what his alignment is. Didn't he have the same report Scotty said he had? Or they checked the same person, right? Maybe Scotty stole Paopan's claim and Paopan claimed anyways without thinkin'.
yeah that was day one, but i'm referring to what pao said today
i'm just surprised no one else has commented on it
There was a brief discussion about it before.
I pointed out the possibility that Scotty just used Paopan's claim and Paopan claimed without reading possibly accidently ccing his own Mafia buddy.

Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 3]

Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2021 12:24 am
by alexa
LinearPoint wrote: Thu Nov 18, 2021 12:21 am Well if you look at the d1 votes.
3 people on Wiggly were confirmed Town at this point.
1 person on SoA was confirmed Mafia and 1 was 3rd Party Lyncheer.
If we assume Alexa is not a Mafia 1-Shot Vigilante then that leaves the only unknown on Wiggly's lynch Michelle. so Wiggly seemed to be a Town formed Wagon.
That implies the Mafia had no real interest in lynching Wiggly, but it seemed like the Mafia was wanting SoA dead.
If that was a bus or not is still unknown, but like I said Mafia willingly forcing SoA into a 50/50 with Wiggly is a bit risky.
huh

Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 3]

Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2021 12:25 am
by alexa
what were the wagons? i still struggle with this site

Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 3]

Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2021 12:25 am
by LinearPoint
OK, let me try that in a shorter way.
The Mafia were not trying to get Wiggly lynched. Most if not all that wagon was Town.
That means Mafia were either not voting or were pushing SoA making SoA less likely to be Mafia, but not impossible.

Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 3]

Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2021 12:25 am
by alexa
also IDG the last part

Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 3]

Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2021 12:26 am
by NotAnAxehole
alexa wrote: Thu Nov 18, 2021 12:25 am what were the wagons? i still struggle with this site
Yeah, this site doesn't have a way to check historical voting, which is rough.

Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 3]

Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2021 12:26 am
by alexa
LinearPoint wrote: Thu Nov 18, 2021 12:25 am OK, let me try that in a shorter way.
The Mafia were not trying to get Wiggly lynched. Most if not all that wagon was Town.
That means Mafia were either not voting or were pushing SoA making SoA less likely to be Mafia, but not impossible.
the only mafia that's flipped is scotty though so how do you know what the mafia was doing

Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 3]

Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2021 12:26 am
by LinearPoint
SoA had me, Scotty, Sig, Wiggly, and NAA
MightgyQ had Alexa, MightyQ, LC, MM, and Michelle

Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 3]

Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2021 12:27 am
by LinearPoint
alexa wrote: Thu Nov 18, 2021 12:26 am
LinearPoint wrote: Thu Nov 18, 2021 12:25 am OK, let me try that in a shorter way.
The Mafia were not trying to get Wiggly lynched. Most if not all that wagon was Town.
That means Mafia were either not voting or were pushing SoA making SoA less likely to be Mafia, but not impossible.
the only mafia that's flipped is scotty though so how do you know what the mafia was doing
Because everyone in the other wagon is confirmed Town except for Michelle...

Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 3]

Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2021 12:28 am
by NotAnAxehole
Man... That self vote

Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 3]

Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2021 12:28 am
by NotAnAxehole
I would also bet on SoA being town for now.

Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 3]

Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2021 12:29 am
by LinearPoint
Look I never said MightyQ’s vote was justified…

Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 3]

Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2021 12:30 am
by alexa
LinearPoint wrote: Thu Nov 18, 2021 12:27 am
alexa wrote: Thu Nov 18, 2021 12:26 am
LinearPoint wrote: Thu Nov 18, 2021 12:25 am OK, let me try that in a shorter way.
The Mafia were not trying to get Wiggly lynched. Most if not all that wagon was Town.
That means Mafia were either not voting or were pushing SoA making SoA less likely to be Mafia, but not impossible.
the only mafia that's flipped is scotty though so how do you know what the mafia was doing
Because everyone in the other wagon is confirmed Town except for Michelle...
errrr
wait but who was on Wiggly?
tbh this site making it hard to view wagons makes it hard for me to tell

but like from a technical standpoint i really don't think mafia being on Wigly VS. someone else would matter bc they wouldn't know he was 3P

ok gn

Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 3]

Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2021 12:31 am
by LinearPoint
I’m just dyslexic and cannot tell Wiggly and MightyQ apart.

Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 3]

Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2021 12:53 am
by Marmot
Hello, it is I, a marmot

Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 3]

Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2021 12:57 am
by LinearPoint
Marmot wrote: Thu Nov 18, 2021 12:53 am Hello, it is I, a marmot
Hi Marmot, got a role? You're one of the only 3 people who haven't claimed anything.

Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 3]

Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2021 1:01 am
by Marmot
LinearPoint wrote: Thu Nov 18, 2021 12:57 am
Marmot wrote: Thu Nov 18, 2021 12:53 am Hello, it is I, a marmot
Hi Marmot, got a role? You're one of the only 3 people who haven't claimed anything.
I will resolve on Day 5, should I just wait or claim now?