The Syndicate

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 1:17 pm

Lag wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 1:15 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 1:13 pm

Lag wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 1:12 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 1:10 pm

Lag wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 1:02 pm I'm policy wagoning anyone that hasn't voted by mid-day (12 hours into the day phase)

No reason to hold your vote.

you're already policy voting, why state this?

My vote on your isn't a policy vote.

You've been

feels like you're trying to push "absence = wolf" here.

You've not been entirely absent, but like, I could basically copy paste the post I made from last game where I correctly wolf-read you there.

And the same logic applies here. You have no fire

legit

Where's the HK from Deck Mafia's revenge of the 3p?

tangent: policy forming really is the key to advanced town play imo. Its a device we can use to add arbitrary rules to the game. The key to bringing this device into existence is strict enforcement and effective computation of the policies (i.e. the policies we design need to make it easy to agree on when a policy is actually violated).

you can start with simple policies about forming policies, then build a tower of pro-town rules from that foundation

Lag wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 1:19 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 1:17 pm

Lag wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 1:15 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 1:13 pm

Lag wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 1:12 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 1:10 pm

Lag wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 1:02 pm I'm policy wagoning anyone that hasn't voted by mid-day (12 hours into the day phase)

No reason to hold your vote.

you're already policy voting, why state this?

My vote on your isn't a policy vote.

You've been

feels like you're trying to push "absence = wolf" here.

You've not been entirely absent, but like, I could basically copy paste the post I made from last game where I correctly wolf-read you there.

And the same logic applies here. You have no fire

legit

Where's the HK from Deck Mafia's revenge of the 3p?

you mean the one that was wrong on just about everyone? who wasn't listening, who didn't try to work with others, who thought he had all the answers? that HK?
I killed him, he's an asshole.

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 1:27 pm

Lag wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 1:19 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 1:17 pm

Lag wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 1:15 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 1:13 pm

Lag wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 1:12 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 1:10 pm

you're already policy voting, why state this?

My vote on your isn't a policy vote.

You've been

feels like you're trying to push "absence = wolf" here.

You've not been entirely absent, but like, I could basically copy paste the post I made from last game where I correctly wolf-read you there.

And the same logic applies here. You have no fire

legit

Where's the HK from Deck Mafia's revenge of the 3p?

you mean the one that was wrong on just about everyone? who wasn't listening, who didn't try to work with others, who thought he had all the answers? that HK?
I killed him, he's an asshole.

Do you have an example of a town game you've played with the new HK?

I was hoping Arcbell had a volume tell, but he post-capped or near post-capped every day he was alive in the only other game I've played with him (he was wolf in that game)

https://www.mafiacafe.net/forum/standar ... rates-life

is the only one I have.
was the D2 due to a ridiculously good case from ender (he was a wolf)

consistent policies can also be added together, making it easy to pass them as a bundle. for example, at the start of the game someone can just go:

I propose the policy bundle from xyz game (where, say, town did really well because of policies)

and players can vote to pass all those policies at once at the start of the day, then you only need to go back and look at what they are if they get violated

Lag wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 1:31 pm I was hoping Arcbell had a volume tell, but he post-capped or near post-capped every day he was alive in the only other game I've played with him (he was wolf in that game)

why not just read for content? that shouldn't be difficult

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 1:32 pm https://www.mafiacafe.net/forum/standar ... rates-life

is the only one I have.
was the D2 due to a ridiculously good case from ender (he was a wolf)

In that game you jumped into solving within the first few pages of the game, your start this game seems much slower.

How come?

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 1:32 pm

Lag wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 1:31 pm I was hoping Arcbell had a volume tell, but he post-capped or near post-capped every day he was alive in the only other game I've played with him (he was wolf in that game)

why not just read for content? that shouldn't be difficult

I like the way Arcbell thinks and have a weakness to it.

But actually his posts do feel towny, I'm not entirely sure why, but I have a gut townread on him.

Lag wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 1:31 pm I was hoping Arcbell had a volume tell, but he post-capped or near post-capped every day he was alive in the only other game I've played with him (he was wolf in that game)

I don't have a volume tell. My Achilles heel is that I'm really lazy about things I'm not interested in. I won't strain myself to meet expectations and sometimes you can get a solid townread on me by recognizing that there's no way I could be stimulated by some activity if I was mafia. Lots of false negatives and positives though. Also I don't like to lie but I'm good at just telling the truth from some imaginary pov as mafia.

Arcbell wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 1:38 pm

Lag wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 1:31 pm I was hoping Arcbell had a volume tell, but he post-capped or near post-capped every day he was alive in the only other game I've played with him (he was wolf in that game)

I don't have a volume tell. My Achilles heel is that I'm really lazy about things I'm not interested in. I won't strain myself to meet expectations and sometimes you can get a solid townread on me by recognizing that there's no way I could be stimulated by some activity if I was mafia. Lots of false negatives and positives though. Also I don't like to lie but I'm good at just telling the truth from some imaginary pov as mafia.

what's your current readslist?

Lag wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 1:35 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 1:32 pm https://www.mafiacafe.net/forum/standar ... rates-life

is the only one I have.
was the D2 due to a ridiculously good case from ender (he was a wolf)

In that game you jumped into solving within the first few pages of the game, your start this game seems much slower.

How come?

bruh I made 12 posts, vanished for most of D1, came back to sheep on the falcon wagon and then promptly passed the fuck out again

Lag wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 1:37 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 1:32 pm

Lag wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 1:31 pm I was hoping Arcbell had a volume tell, but he post-capped or near post-capped every day he was alive in the only other game I've played with him (he was wolf in that game)

why not just read for content? that shouldn't be difficult

I like the way Arcbell thinks and have a weakness to it.

But actually his posts do feel towny, I'm not entirely sure why, but I have a gut townread on him.

this phrasing is weird.
I find arc townie b/c of his posts, you seem to be saying you find him townie despite his townie posts?

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 1:48 pm

Lag wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 1:35 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 1:32 pm https://www.mafiacafe.net/forum/standar ... rates-life

is the only one I have.
was the D2 due to a ridiculously good case from ender (he was a wolf)

In that game you jumped into solving within the first few pages of the game, your start this game seems much slower.

How come?

bruh I made 12 posts, vanished for most of D1, came back to sheep on the falcon wagon and then promptly passed the fuck out again

The posts you made at the start of this day 1 were pretty much all fluff except for 1 post.

The posts you made at the start of day 1 in that other game had more substance.

If you're town you have all of day 3 to clear yourself though. Have you looked into Mizery more? Any new reads or thoughts?

Readslist maybe?

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 1:50 pm

Lag wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 1:37 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 1:32 pm

Lag wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 1:31 pm I was hoping Arcbell had a volume tell, but he post-capped or near post-capped every day he was alive in the only other game I've played with him (he was wolf in that game)

why not just read for content? that shouldn't be difficult

I like the way Arcbell thinks and have a weakness to it.

But actually his posts do feel towny, I'm not entirely sure why, but I have a gut townread on him.

this phrasing is weird.
I find arc townie b/c of his posts, you seem to be saying you find him townie despite his townie posts?

I find his posts townie, I'm just not entirely sure why I find his posts townie though.

What part was unclear?

Lag wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 1:51 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 1:48 pm

Lag wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 1:35 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 1:32 pm https://www.mafiacafe.net/forum/standar ... rates-life

is the only one I have.
was the D2 due to a ridiculously good case from ender (he was a wolf)

In that game you jumped into solving within the first few pages of the game, your start this game seems much slower.

How come?

bruh I made 12 posts, vanished for most of D1, came back to sheep on the falcon wagon and then promptly passed the fuck out again

The posts you made at the start of this day 1 were pretty much all fluff except for 1 post.

The posts you made at the start of day 1 in that other game had more substance.

If you're town you have all of day 3 to clear yourself though. Have you looked into Mizery more? Any new reads or thoughts?

Readslist maybe?

did you forget this post existed?

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 8:38 pm

Lag wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 8:37 pm Also did Hollowkatt just ninja a vote right now?

no, I realized on "new page" that I had only voted Jack in the thread, not in the poll. Here's my vote post:

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 7:08 pm townies:

HK
Mac
Dizzy
LC
Mizery
srceen
NAA

is that enough? I feel like that's enough

[VOTE: jackofhearts] aubergine
do something townie

I pulled DDL out of that list in the quote b/c I can't figure out how to do a strikethrough.

I missed what feels like most of D2 so this needs to be updated. I will get you that later this afternoon.

My only new thing is pulling DDL out of the town bucket. Dizzy being the counterwagon to the town aligned 3p should be telling me something but fucked if I know what it is.
still confident on mac and srceen tho.

should spend some time on NAA and Mizery today

Lag wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 1:54 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 1:50 pm

Lag wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 1:37 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 1:32 pm

Lag wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 1:31 pm I was hoping Arcbell had a volume tell, but he post-capped or near post-capped every day he was alive in the only other game I've played with him (he was wolf in that game)

why not just read for content? that shouldn't be difficult

I like the way Arcbell thinks and have a weakness to it.

But actually his posts do feel towny, I'm not entirely sure why, but I have a gut townread on him.

this phrasing is weird.
I find arc townie b/c of his posts, you seem to be saying you find him townie despite his townie posts?

I find his posts townie, I'm just not entirely sure why I find his posts townie though.

What part was unclear?

the part where it read like your town read of arc is separate from you thinking his posts are townie

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 1:55 pm

Lag wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 1:51 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 1:48 pm

Lag wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 1:35 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 1:32 pm https://www.mafiacafe.net/forum/standar ... rates-life

is the only one I have.
was the D2 due to a ridiculously good case from ender (he was a wolf)

In that game you jumped into solving within the first few pages of the game, your start this game seems much slower.

How come?

bruh I made 12 posts, vanished for most of D1, came back to sheep on the falcon wagon and then promptly passed the fuck out again

The posts you made at the start of this day 1 were pretty much all fluff except for 1 post.

The posts you made at the start of day 1 in that other game had more substance.

If you're town you have all of day 3 to clear yourself though. Have you looked into Mizery more? Any new reads or thoughts?

Readslist maybe?

did you forget this post existed?

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 8:38 pm

Lag wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 8:37 pm Also did Hollowkatt just ninja a vote right now?

no, I realized on "new page" that I had only voted Jack in the thread, not in the poll. Here's my vote post:

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 7:08 pm townies:

HK
Mac
Dizzy
LC
Mizery
srceen
NAA

is that enough? I feel like that's enough

[VOTE: jackofhearts] aubergine
do something townie

I pulled DDL out of that list in the quote b/c I can't figure out how to do a strikethrough.

I missed what feels like most of D2 so this needs to be updated. I will get you that later this afternoon.

My only new thing is pulling DDL out of the town bucket. Dizzy being the counterwagon to the town aligned 3p should be telling me something but fucked if I know what it is.
still confident on mac and srceen tho.

should spend some time on NAA and Mizery today

I saw that post, but as you said yourself it's outdated. There are 7 people on there. One of them is you, one of them is flipped, you admitted you need to re-evaluate two of them, and you pulled one of them, that's a lot of changes.

Why were you town-reading Mizery at that point in time?

Lag wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 1:41 pm

Arcbell wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 1:38 pm

Lag wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 1:31 pm I was hoping Arcbell had a volume tell, but he post-capped or near post-capped every day he was alive in the only other game I've played with him (he was wolf in that game)

I don't have a volume tell. My Achilles heel is that I'm really lazy about things I'm not interested in. I won't strain myself to meet expectations and sometimes you can get a solid townread on me by recognizing that there's no way I could be stimulated by some activity if I was mafia. Lots of false negatives and positives though. Also I don't like to lie but I'm good at just telling the truth from some imaginary pov as mafia.

what's your current readslist?

in order of confidence:
dyslexicon town
mac town
naah maf
jack town
.. then a bunch of really weak leans

opinions:
you should stay around because you're pro town
mac should stay around because he townreads me
srceenplay is probably a liability
jack should stay around because he seems to townread me

oh I'll add hk should stay around b/c pro town as well, asking lots of questions and has been since the start of the game

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 1:55 pm

Lag wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 1:54 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 1:50 pm

Lag wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 1:37 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 1:32 pm

Lag wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 1:31 pm I was hoping Arcbell had a volume tell, but he post-capped or near post-capped every day he was alive in the only other game I've played with him (he was wolf in that game)

why not just read for content? that shouldn't be difficult

I like the way Arcbell thinks and have a weakness to it.

But actually his posts do feel towny, I'm not entirely sure why, but I have a gut townread on him.

this phrasing is weird.
I find arc townie b/c of his posts, you seem to be saying you find him townie despite his townie posts?

I find his posts townie, I'm just not entirely sure why I find his posts townie though.

What part was unclear?

the part where it read like your town read of arc is separate from you thinking his posts are townie

It feels like you're getting oddly hung up on this. What's the point you're trying to make here?
If you're saying you think it's a TMI slip, then lol
If you're not saying you think it's a TMI slip, then why is it so noteworthy to you?

Arcbell wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 2:03 pm

Lag wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 1:41 pm

Arcbell wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 1:38 pm

Lag wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 1:31 pm I was hoping Arcbell had a volume tell, but he post-capped or near post-capped every day he was alive in the only other game I've played with him (he was wolf in that game)

I don't have a volume tell. My Achilles heel is that I'm really lazy about things I'm not interested in. I won't strain myself to meet expectations and sometimes you can get a solid townread on me by recognizing that there's no way I could be stimulated by some activity if I was mafia. Lots of false negatives and positives though. Also I don't like to lie but I'm good at just telling the truth from some imaginary pov as mafia.

what's your current readslist?

in order of confidence:
dyslexicon town
mac town
naah maf
jack town
.. then a bunch of really weak leans

opinions:
you should stay around because you're pro town
mac should stay around because he townreads me
srceenplay is probably a liability
jack should stay around because he seems to townread me

What are some of your leans?

Arcbell wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 2:05 pm oh I'll add hk should stay around b/c pro town as well, asking lots of questions and has been since the start of the game

Hm?

This read feels a little bit fake because
1) HK, by his own admission, has been more absent this game due to feeling sick. That's not "asking lots of questions since the start of the game"
2) Asking questions is pretty NAI, what matters more is what they actually do with the answers.

Lag wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 2:06 pm

Arcbell wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 2:03 pm

Lag wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 1:41 pm

Arcbell wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 1:38 pm

Lag wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 1:31 pm I was hoping Arcbell had a volume tell, but he post-capped or near post-capped every day he was alive in the only other game I've played with him (he was wolf in that game)

I don't have a volume tell. My Achilles heel is that I'm really lazy about things I'm not interested in. I won't strain myself to meet expectations and sometimes you can get a solid townread on me by recognizing that there's no way I could be stimulated by some activity if I was mafia. Lots of false negatives and positives though. Also I don't like to lie but I'm good at just telling the truth from some imaginary pov as mafia.

what's your current readslist?

in order of confidence:
dyslexicon town
mac town
naah maf
jack town
.. then a bunch of really weak leans

opinions:
you should stay around because you're pro town
mac should stay around because he townreads me
srceenplay is probably a liability
jack should stay around because he seems to townread me

What are some of your leans?

at this very moment?

dragon town
porscha town
srceen maf
you maf or 3p (sorry lol)
mizery maf

these are all extremely weak and subject to change though and I only render them at your request!

Arcbell wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 2:11 pm

Lag wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 2:06 pm

Arcbell wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 2:03 pm

Lag wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 1:41 pm

Arcbell wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 1:38 pm

Lag wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 1:31 pm I was hoping Arcbell had a volume tell, but he post-capped or near post-capped every day he was alive in the only other game I've played with him (he was wolf in that game)

I don't have a volume tell. My Achilles heel is that I'm really lazy about things I'm not interested in. I won't strain myself to meet expectations and sometimes you can get a solid townread on me by recognizing that there's no way I could be stimulated by some activity if I was mafia. Lots of false negatives and positives though. Also I don't like to lie but I'm good at just telling the truth from some imaginary pov as mafia.

what's your current readslist?

in order of confidence:
dyslexicon town
mac town
naah maf
jack town
.. then a bunch of really weak leans

opinions:
you should stay around because you're pro town
mac should stay around because he townreads me
srceenplay is probably a liability
jack should stay around because he seems to townread me

What are some of your leans?

at this very moment?

dragon town
porscha town
srceen maf
you maf or 3p (sorry lol)
mizery maf

these are all extremely weak and subject to change though and I only render them at your request!

Tell me why you have me as a maf-lean

Lag wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 2:10 pm

Arcbell wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 2:05 pm oh I'll add hk should stay around b/c pro town as well, asking lots of questions and has been since the start of the game

Hm?

This read feels a little bit fake because
1) HK, by his own admission, has been more absent this game due to feeling sick. That's not "asking lots of questions since the start of the game"
2) Asking questions is pretty NAI, what matters more is what they actually do with the answers.

yea I agree it's nai, I just find it useful for town and so I think there's no reason to chop him before the other neutrals. I can't speak to quantity rn but I noted that hk was pretty question happy on previous days and noted it again today

Arcbell wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 2:14 pm

Lag wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 2:10 pm

Arcbell wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 2:05 pm oh I'll add hk should stay around b/c pro town as well, asking lots of questions and has been since the start of the game

Hm?

This read feels a little bit fake because
1) HK, by his own admission, has been more absent this game due to feeling sick. That's not "asking lots of questions since the start of the game"
2) Asking questions is pretty NAI, what matters more is what they actually do with the answers.

yea I agree it's nai, I just find it useful for town and so I think there's no reason to chop him before the other neutrals. I can't speak to quantity rn but I noted that hk was pretty question happy on previous days and noted it again today

He asked a total of 2 different questions on day 1.
I wasn't even here for day 1 and I know this. What?

Also "before the other neutrals" what does that mean

Lag wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 2:12 pm

Arcbell wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 2:11 pm

Lag wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 2:06 pm

Arcbell wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 2:03 pm

Lag wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 1:41 pm

Arcbell wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 1:38 pm

Lag wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 1:31 pm I was hoping Arcbell had a volume tell, but he post-capped or near post-capped every day he was alive in the only other game I've played with him (he was wolf in that game)

I don't have a volume tell. My Achilles heel is that I'm really lazy about things I'm not interested in. I won't strain myself to meet expectations and sometimes you can get a solid townread on me by recognizing that there's no way I could be stimulated by some activity if I was mafia. Lots of false negatives and positives though. Also I don't like to lie but I'm good at just telling the truth from some imaginary pov as mafia.

what's your current readslist?

in order of confidence:
dyslexicon town
mac town
naah maf
jack town
.. then a bunch of really weak leans

opinions:
you should stay around because you're pro town
mac should stay around because he townreads me
srceenplay is probably a liability
jack should stay around because he seems to townread me

What are some of your leans?

at this very moment?

dragon town
porscha town
srceen maf
you maf or 3p (sorry lol)
mizery maf

these are all extremely weak and subject to change though and I only render them at your request!

Tell me why you have me as a maf-lean

it's mostly based on timing of your thread entrances/exits, and that your scumhunting seems to have a very clean narrative to the point where I'm wondering if its artificial. I'm sure these things are mostly nai though.

Oh also I tinfoiled you for maf/3p when you said my idea of mafia / town 3p role swapping was great, wondering if you were trying to hint that we should do it, but that faded pretty quick

Lag wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 2:20 pm

Arcbell wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 2:14 pm

Lag wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 2:10 pm

Arcbell wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 2:05 pm oh I'll add hk should stay around b/c pro town as well, asking lots of questions and has been since the start of the game

Hm?

This read feels a little bit fake because
1) HK, by his own admission, has been more absent this game due to feeling sick. That's not "asking lots of questions since the start of the game"
2) Asking questions is pretty NAI, what matters more is what they actually do with the answers.

yea I agree it's nai, I just find it useful for town and so I think there's no reason to chop him before the other neutrals. I can't speak to quantity rn but I noted that hk was pretty question happy on previous days and noted it again today

He asked a total of 2 different questions on day 1.
I wasn't even here for day 1 and I know this. What?

Also "before the other neutrals" what does that mean

I'll have to look back. it's possible I came away with an impression of his posting that doesn't match reality since I wasn't paying much attention to his slot.

And I just mean that there are plenty of people I don't have strong reads on, and of them he's pretty pro town so I don't wanna chop him first

Arcbell wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 2:21 pm Oh also I tinfoiled you for maf/3p when you said my idea of mafia / town 3p role swapping was great, wondering if you were trying to hint that we should do it, but that faded pretty quick

Are you softing town-aligned 3p?

Arcbell wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 2:24 pm

Lag wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 2:20 pm

Arcbell wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 2:14 pm

Lag wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 2:10 pm

Arcbell wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 2:05 pm oh I'll add hk should stay around b/c pro town as well, asking lots of questions and has been since the start of the game

Hm?

This read feels a little bit fake because
1) HK, by his own admission, has been more absent this game due to feeling sick. That's not "asking lots of questions since the start of the game"
2) Asking questions is pretty NAI, what matters more is what they actually do with the answers.

yea I agree it's nai, I just find it useful for town and so I think there's no reason to chop him before the other neutrals. I can't speak to quantity rn but I noted that hk was pretty question happy on previous days and noted it again today

He asked a total of 2 different questions on day 1.
I wasn't even here for day 1 and I know this. What?

Also "before the other neutrals" what does that mean

I'll have to look back. it's possible I came away with an impression of his posting that doesn't match reality since I wasn't paying much attention to his slot.

And I just mean that there are plenty of people I don't have strong reads on, and of them he's pretty pro town so I don't wanna chop him first

What's your read on him though?

Lag wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 1:15 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 1:13 pm

Lag wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 1:12 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 1:10 pm

Lag wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 1:02 pm I'm policy wagoning anyone that hasn't voted by mid-day (12 hours into the day phase)

No reason to hold your vote.

you're already policy voting, why state this?

My vote on your isn't a policy vote.

You've been

feels like you're trying to push "absence = wolf" here.

You've not been entirely absent, but like, I could basically copy paste the post I made from last game where I correctly wolf-read you there.

And the same logic applies here. You have no fire

I guess you could say

he is


E M P T Y

Mizery wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 2:27 pm

Lag wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 1:15 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 1:13 pm

Lag wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 1:12 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 1:10 pm

Lag wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 1:02 pm I'm policy wagoning anyone that hasn't voted by mid-day (12 hours into the day phase)

No reason to hold your vote.

you're already policy voting, why state this?

My vote on your isn't a policy vote.

You've been

feels like you're trying to push "absence = wolf" here.

You've not been entirely absent, but like, I could basically copy paste the post I made from last game where I correctly wolf-read you there.

And the same logic applies here. You have no fire

I guess you could say

he is


E M P T Y

I'm pocketed

Lag wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 2:25 pm

Arcbell wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 2:21 pm Oh also I tinfoiled you for maf/3p when you said my idea of mafia / town 3p role swapping was great, wondering if you were trying to hint that we should do it, but that faded pretty quick

Are you softing town-aligned 3p?

I was when I responded "Let's do it" the other night, hoping you'd bite if you were maf lol. But not now.

Lag wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 2:27 pm

Arcbell wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 2:24 pm

Lag wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 2:20 pm

Arcbell wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 2:14 pm

Lag wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 2:10 pm

Arcbell wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 2:05 pm oh I'll add hk should stay around b/c pro town as well, asking lots of questions and has been since the start of the game

Hm?

This read feels a little bit fake because
1) HK, by his own admission, has been more absent this game due to feeling sick. That's not "asking lots of questions since the start of the game"
2) Asking questions is pretty NAI, what matters more is what they actually do with the answers.

yea I agree it's nai, I just find it useful for town and so I think there's no reason to chop him before the other neutrals. I can't speak to quantity rn but I noted that hk was pretty question happy on previous days and noted it again today

He asked a total of 2 different questions on day 1.
I wasn't even here for day 1 and I know this. What?

Also "before the other neutrals" what does that mean

I'll have to look back. it's possible I came away with an impression of his posting that doesn't match reality since I wasn't paying much attention to his slot.

And I just mean that there are plenty of people I don't have strong reads on, and of them he's pretty pro town so I don't wanna chop him first

What's your read on him though?

Don't really have one as of now. I'll iso him at some point

Arcbell wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 2:29 pm

Lag wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 2:25 pm

Arcbell wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 2:21 pm Oh also I tinfoiled you for maf/3p when you said my idea of mafia / town 3p role swapping was great, wondering if you were trying to hint that we should do it, but that faded pretty quick

Are you softing town-aligned 3p?

I was when I responded "Let's do it" the other night, hoping you'd bite if you were maf lol. But not now.

Why would you think that the 3p would out there? Like that'd be such a weird time and place to out?

Mizery wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 2:27 pm

Lag wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 1:15 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 1:13 pm

Lag wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 1:12 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 1:10 pm

Lag wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 1:02 pm I'm policy wagoning anyone that hasn't voted by mid-day (12 hours into the day phase)

No reason to hold your vote.

you're already policy voting, why state this?

My vote on your isn't a policy vote.

You've been

feels like you're trying to push "absence = wolf" here.

You've not been entirely absent, but like, I could basically copy paste the post I made from last game where I correctly wolf-read you there.

And the same logic applies here. You have no fire

I guess you could say

he is


E M P T Y

If you avoid me today, I'm policying you btw

Lag wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 2:34 pm

Arcbell wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 2:29 pm

Lag wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 2:25 pm

Arcbell wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 2:21 pm Oh also I tinfoiled you for maf/3p when you said my idea of mafia / town 3p role swapping was great, wondering if you were trying to hint that we should do it, but that faded pretty quick

Are you softing town-aligned 3p?

I was when I responded "Let's do it" the other night, hoping you'd bite if you were maf lol. But not now.

Why would you think that the 3p would out there? Like that'd be such a weird time and place to out?

I didn't, I figured you'd wait for a bit then do it. Then I went to sleep and woke up and filed this whole thing under "late night thoughts" lol

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 1:08 pm

Lag wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 12:59 pm [VOTE: Hollowkatt] aubergine

Do something

lemme see if I understand, you wolf read me b/c I haven't been here. Any good reasons or is that it?

You have been here, but whenever you were, you barely did anything, that's the issue.

Arcbell wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 1:15 pm I'll support the new policy from Lag by voting in late voters. We should revive policy forming as a tool the town has.

I agree if by policing you mean make in-game demands that people who don't follow get chopped. I don't agree if it means chopping a specific player d1 of every game because you dislike their playstyle. That is pretty disgusting and kinda frowned upon in this site. It seems to be the former though, but I think it's good to ask.

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 1:18 pm

Lag wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 1:16 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 1:11 pm [VOTE: Dragon] aubergine

lets get spicy

Why Dragon?

was on falcon, falcon was on them, collectively town read last time I checked.

So you're voting me just because nobody else is?

Do you actually suspect me?

Lag wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 1:29 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 1:27 pm

Lag wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 1:19 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 1:17 pm

Lag wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 1:15 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 1:13 pm

Lag wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 1:12 pm

My vote on your isn't a policy vote.

You've been

feels like you're trying to push "absence = wolf" here.

You've not been entirely absent, but like, I could basically copy paste the post I made from last game where I correctly wolf-read you there.

And the same logic applies here. You have no fire

legit

Where's the HK from Deck Mafia's revenge of the 3p?

you mean the one that was wrong on just about everyone? who wasn't listening, who didn't try to work with others, who thought he had all the answers? that HK?
I killed him, he's an asshole.

Do you have an example of a town game you've played with the new HK?

To be fair, this narrative of his makes sense since just played a game of mine last week where he was a heavy and forward poster and lost the game pretty catrastophicaly, which prompted a change in playstyle. I've been there too.

That said that experience changed both my town and scum playstyles, since the later had to adapt to keep looking like the former.

Arcbell wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 2:20 pm

Lag wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 2:12 pm

Arcbell wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 2:11 pm

Lag wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 2:06 pm

Arcbell wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 2:03 pm

Lag wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 1:41 pm

Arcbell wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 1:38 pm

I don't have a volume tell. My Achilles heel is that I'm really lazy about things I'm not interested in. I won't strain myself to meet expectations and sometimes you can get a solid townread on me by recognizing that there's no way I could be stimulated by some activity if I was mafia. Lots of false negatives and positives though. Also I don't like to lie but I'm good at just telling the truth from some imaginary pov as mafia.

what's your current readslist?

in order of confidence:
dyslexicon town
mac town
naah maf
jack town
.. then a bunch of really weak leans

opinions:
you should stay around because you're pro town
mac should stay around because he townreads me
srceenplay is probably a liability
jack should stay around because he seems to townread me

What are some of your leans?

at this very moment?

dragon town
porscha town
srceen maf
you maf or 3p (sorry lol)
mizery maf

these are all extremely weak and subject to change though and I only render them at your request!

Tell me why you have me as a maf-lean

it's mostly based on timing of your thread entrances/exits, and that your scumhunting seems to have a very clean narrative to the point where I'm wondering if its artificial. I'm sure these things are mostly nai though.

Lag talks about polyiciying for not voting and you immediately write two posts or more idk i skipped them about how policy kills are pro town and how you win games and then you go but yeah lag is a wolf

Lag wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 2:35 pm

Mizery wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 2:27 pm

Lag wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 1:15 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 1:13 pm

Lag wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 1:12 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 1:10 pm

Lag wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 1:02 pm I'm policy wagoning anyone that hasn't voted by mid-day (12 hours into the day phase)

No reason to hold your vote.

you're already policy voting, why state this?

My vote on your isn't a policy vote.

You've been

feels like you're trying to push "absence = wolf" here.

You've not been entirely absent, but like, I could basically copy paste the post I made from last game where I correctly wolf-read you there.

And the same logic applies here. You have no fire

I guess you could say

he is


E M P T Y

If you avoid me today, I'm policying you btw

I'm avoiding everyone not just you smh you're not special .

Lag wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 2:34 pm

Arcbell wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 2:29 pm

Lag wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 2:25 pm

Arcbell wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 2:21 pm Oh also I tinfoiled you for maf/3p when you said my idea of mafia / town 3p role swapping was great, wondering if you were trying to hint that we should do it, but that faded pretty quick

Are you softing town-aligned 3p?

I was when I responded "Let's do it" the other night, hoping you'd bite if you were maf lol. But not now.

Why would you think that the 3p would out there? Like that'd be such a weird time and place to out?

Rondo was softing 3P pretty hard.

I have been trying but for some reason i can't get a grasp on the game and it's infuriating

Mizery wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 2:39 pm I have been trying but for some reason i can't get a grasp on the game and it's infuriating

Same tbh.

I think I town/neutral read everyone left now.

Which kinda makes sense since only 2 scum are left?

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 2:37 pm

Arcbell wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 1:15 pm I'll support the new policy from Lag by voting in late voters. We should revive policy forming as a tool the town has.

I agree if by policing you mean make in-game demands that people who don't follow get chopped. I don't agree if it means chopping a specific player d1 of every game because you dislike their playstyle. That is pretty disgusting and kinda frowned upon in this site. It seems to be the former though, but I think it's good to ask.

Duuuude of course not I agree that's completely disgusting. Policies shouldn't even have the ability to distinguish specific site users at all.

Arcbell wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 2:41 pm

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 2:37 pm

Arcbell wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 1:15 pm I'll support the new policy from Lag by voting in late voters. We should revive policy forming as a tool the town has.

I agree if by policing you mean make in-game demands that people who don't follow get chopped. I don't agree if it means chopping a specific player d1 of every game because you dislike their playstyle. That is pretty disgusting and kinda frowned upon in this site. It seems to be the former though, but I think it's good to ask.

Duuuude of course not I agree that's completely disgusting. Policies shouldn't even have the ability to distinguish specific site users at all.

Yeah ok sorry for the mean suggestion.

Last game I played was majority vote only so O made a VOTE OR DIE policy and kept spamming it, so I like to do those things sometimes.

That said I also have a super laidback and "I do whatever I feel like atm" playstyle so if this starts having a bunch of rules I'm zzzzzzzzzz

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 1:27 pm

Lag wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 1:19 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 1:17 pm

Lag wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 1:15 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 1:13 pm

Lag wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 1:12 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 1:10 pm

you're already policy voting, why state this?

My vote on your isn't a policy vote.

You've been

feels like you're trying to push "absence = wolf" here.

You've not been entirely absent, but like, I could basically copy paste the post I made from last game where I correctly wolf-read you there.

And the same logic applies here. You have no fire

legit

Where's the HK from Deck Mafia's revenge of the 3p?

you mean the one that was wrong on just about everyone? who wasn't listening, who didn't try to work with others, who thought he had all the answers? that HK?
I killed him, he's an asshole.

sorry, the new hk can't come to the phone right now. why? because he's dead