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Re: MU Season 6 Scrimmage [Day 3]

Posted: Mon May 06, 2019 6:31 pm
by MacDougall
Luxurious wrote: Mon May 06, 2019 6:30 pm
Dragomir wrote: Mon May 06, 2019 6:29 pm From what I recall, when Gemma was a leading wagon in D1 and right now, nobody aside from me tried to subvert it or at least break attention away from it(scum obviously didn't try to redirect the attention onto Ultra) ppl were hopping on that wagon IIRC and even right now nobody aside from me even defended Gemma. Scum is literally allowing all these votes on Gemma to be piling up. This is a bit unnerving and feels like another mislynch.
No day 1 people were townreading Gemma.

Even now DDL is throwing shade about it because apparently this site has a thing about lynching people with weird playstyles
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Re: MU Season 6 Scrimmage [Day 3]

Posted: Mon May 06, 2019 6:31 pm
by Luxurious
MacDougall wrote: Mon May 06, 2019 6:30 pm Jesus Christ is that image 800gb?
Idk it’s not that big on my phone?

I was gonna spoiler it but I didnt check image size for computer users

Re: MU Season 6 Scrimmage [Day 3]

Posted: Mon May 06, 2019 6:32 pm
by nutella
MacDougall wrote: Mon May 06, 2019 6:26 pm Okay I back from prepping my hot Mac injection. I read the first 10 posts Gemma made and want to lynch her.
Right on dude

Re: MU Season 6 Scrimmage [Day 3]

Posted: Mon May 06, 2019 6:33 pm
by Dragomir
Luxurious wrote: Mon May 06, 2019 6:30 pm
Dragomir wrote: Mon May 06, 2019 6:29 pm From what I recall, when Gemma was a leading wagon in D1 and right now, nobody aside from me tried to subvert it or at least break attention away from it(scum obviously didn't try to redirect the attention onto Ultra) ppl were hopping on that wagon IIRC and even right now nobody aside from me even defended Gemma. Scum is literally allowing all these votes on Gemma to be piling up. This is a bit unnerving and feels like another mislynch.
No day 1 people were townreading Gemma.

Even now DDL is throwing shade about it because apparently this site has a thing about lynching people with weird playstyles
Eh, town reading her doesn't mean much. If they tried to stop the wagon is what I'm interested in.

Re: MU Season 6 Scrimmage [Day 3]

Posted: Mon May 06, 2019 6:33 pm
by MacDougall
I live in Australia we are still on dial up.

Re: MU Season 6 Scrimmage [Day 3]

Posted: Mon May 06, 2019 6:33 pm
by MacDougall
Dragomir wrote: Mon May 06, 2019 6:33 pm
Luxurious wrote: Mon May 06, 2019 6:30 pm
Dragomir wrote: Mon May 06, 2019 6:29 pm From what I recall, when Gemma was a leading wagon in D1 and right now, nobody aside from me tried to subvert it or at least break attention away from it(scum obviously didn't try to redirect the attention onto Ultra) ppl were hopping on that wagon IIRC and even right now nobody aside from me even defended Gemma. Scum is literally allowing all these votes on Gemma to be piling up. This is a bit unnerving and feels like another mislynch.
No day 1 people were townreading Gemma.

Even now DDL is throwing shade about it because apparently this site has a thing about lynching people with weird playstyles
Eh, town reading her doesn't mean much. If they tried to stop the wagon is what I'm interested in.
Is that what you are doing right now?

Re: MU Season 6 Scrimmage [Day 3]

Posted: Mon May 06, 2019 6:34 pm
by nutella
Luxurious wrote: Mon May 06, 2019 6:28 pm
nutella wrote: Mon May 06, 2019 6:23 pm Lol good to see Mac playing devil's advocate.

Will have time for more research after work but from everything I've seen I'm happy with the Gemma vote.
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Lol I guess

Re: MU Season 6 Scrimmage [Day 3]

Posted: Mon May 06, 2019 6:34 pm
by Luxurious
Dragomir wrote: Mon May 06, 2019 6:33 pm
Luxurious wrote: Mon May 06, 2019 6:30 pm
Dragomir wrote: Mon May 06, 2019 6:29 pm From what I recall, when Gemma was a leading wagon in D1 and right now, nobody aside from me tried to subvert it or at least break attention away from it(scum obviously didn't try to redirect the attention onto Ultra) ppl were hopping on that wagon IIRC and even right now nobody aside from me even defended Gemma. Scum is literally allowing all these votes on Gemma to be piling up. This is a bit unnerving and feels like another mislynch.
No day 1 people were townreading Gemma.

Even now DDL is throwing shade about it because apparently this site has a thing about lynching people with weird playstyles
Eh, town reading her doesn't mean much. If they tried to stop the wagon is what I'm interested in.
Well the wagon died and moved to Ultra. I dont think anyone like, outwordly opposed it until Day 2

Re: MU Season 6 Scrimmage [Day 3]

Posted: Mon May 06, 2019 6:36 pm
by MacDougall
I have to leave for work. Bye.

Re: MU Season 6 Scrimmage [Day 3]

Posted: Mon May 06, 2019 6:37 pm
by Dragomir
MacDougall wrote: Mon May 06, 2019 6:33 pm
Dragomir wrote: Mon May 06, 2019 6:33 pm
Luxurious wrote: Mon May 06, 2019 6:30 pm
Dragomir wrote: Mon May 06, 2019 6:29 pm From what I recall, when Gemma was a leading wagon in D1 and right now, nobody aside from me tried to subvert it or at least break attention away from it(scum obviously didn't try to redirect the attention onto Ultra) ppl were hopping on that wagon IIRC and even right now nobody aside from me even defended Gemma. Scum is literally allowing all these votes on Gemma to be piling up. This is a bit unnerving and feels like another mislynch.
No day 1 people were townreading Gemma.

Even now DDL is throwing shade about it because apparently this site has a thing about lynching people with weird playstyles
Eh, town reading her doesn't mean much. If they tried to stop the wagon is what I'm interested in.
Is that what you are doing right now?
My case is different because I'm calling out something that doesn't make any sense. Wouldn't you have your doubts on a lynch that seems to be happening too easy?

Also. It makes no sense for a scum to try to derail a mislynch.

Re: MU Season 6 Scrimmage [Day 3]

Posted: Mon May 06, 2019 6:37 pm
by Dragomir
Luxurious wrote: Mon May 06, 2019 6:34 pm
Dragomir wrote: Mon May 06, 2019 6:33 pm
Luxurious wrote: Mon May 06, 2019 6:30 pm
Dragomir wrote: Mon May 06, 2019 6:29 pm From what I recall, when Gemma was a leading wagon in D1 and right now, nobody aside from me tried to subvert it or at least break attention away from it(scum obviously didn't try to redirect the attention onto Ultra) ppl were hopping on that wagon IIRC and even right now nobody aside from me even defended Gemma. Scum is literally allowing all these votes on Gemma to be piling up. This is a bit unnerving and feels like another mislynch.
No day 1 people were townreading Gemma.

Even now DDL is throwing shade about it because apparently this site has a thing about lynching people with weird playstyles
Eh, town reading her doesn't mean much. If they tried to stop the wagon is what I'm interested in.
Well the wagon died and moved to Ultra. I dont think anyone like, outwordly opposed it until Day 2
Hmm, aight.

Re: MU Season 6 Scrimmage [Day 3]

Posted: Mon May 06, 2019 6:40 pm
by MacDougall
Dragomir wrote: Mon May 06, 2019 6:37 pm
MacDougall wrote: Mon May 06, 2019 6:33 pm
Dragomir wrote: Mon May 06, 2019 6:33 pm
Luxurious wrote: Mon May 06, 2019 6:30 pm
Dragomir wrote: Mon May 06, 2019 6:29 pm From what I recall, when Gemma was a leading wagon in D1 and right now, nobody aside from me tried to subvert it or at least break attention away from it(scum obviously didn't try to redirect the attention onto Ultra) ppl were hopping on that wagon IIRC and even right now nobody aside from me even defended Gemma. Scum is literally allowing all these votes on Gemma to be piling up. This is a bit unnerving and feels like another mislynch.
No day 1 people were townreading Gemma.

Even now DDL is throwing shade about it because apparently this site has a thing about lynching people with weird playstyles
Eh, town reading her doesn't mean much. If they tried to stop the wagon is what I'm interested in.
Is that what you are doing right now?
My case is different because I'm calling out something that doesn't make any sense. Wouldn't you have your doubts on a lynch that seems to be happening too easy?

Also. It makes no sense for a scum to try to derail a mislynch.
So It's a mislynch?

Re: MU Season 6 Scrimmage [Day 3]

Posted: Mon May 06, 2019 6:44 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
Preferred alternative, Dragomir?

Re: MU Season 6 Scrimmage [Day 3]

Posted: Mon May 06, 2019 6:44 pm
by MacDougall
[VOTE: dragomir ] aubergine

Re: MU Season 6 Scrimmage [Day 3]

Posted: Mon May 06, 2019 6:46 pm
by novaselinenever
MacDougall wrote: Mon May 06, 2019 6:40 pm
Dragomir wrote: Mon May 06, 2019 6:37 pm
MacDougall wrote: Mon May 06, 2019 6:33 pm
Dragomir wrote: Mon May 06, 2019 6:33 pm
Luxurious wrote: Mon May 06, 2019 6:30 pm
Dragomir wrote: Mon May 06, 2019 6:29 pm From what I recall, when Gemma was a leading wagon in D1 and right now, nobody aside from me tried to subvert it or at least break attention away from it(scum obviously didn't try to redirect the attention onto Ultra) ppl were hopping on that wagon IIRC and even right now nobody aside from me even defended Gemma. Scum is literally allowing all these votes on Gemma to be piling up. This is a bit unnerving and feels like another mislynch.
No day 1 people were townreading Gemma.

Even now DDL is throwing shade about it because apparently this site has a thing about lynching people with weird playstyles
Eh, town reading her doesn't mean much. If they tried to stop the wagon is what I'm interested in.
Is that what you are doing right now?
My case is different because I'm calling out something that doesn't make any sense. Wouldn't you have your doubts on a lynch that seems to be happening too easy?

Also. It makes no sense for a scum to try to derail a mislynch.
So It's a mislynch?
:ponder:

Re: MU Season 6 Scrimmage [Day 3]

Posted: Mon May 06, 2019 6:50 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Mon May 06, 2019 6:44 pm Preferred alternative, Dragomir?
[mention]Dragomir[/mention]

Re: MU Season 6 Scrimmage [Day 3]

Posted: Mon May 06, 2019 6:53 pm
by Dragomir
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Mon May 06, 2019 6:44 pm Preferred alternative, Dragomir?
Jessie, DDL, Owner, RDW.

Re: MU Season 6 Scrimmage [Day 3]

Posted: Mon May 06, 2019 6:54 pm
by novaselinenever
Player s.....

Re: MU Season 6 Scrimmage [Day 3]

Posted: Mon May 06, 2019 6:56 pm
by Dragomir
MacDougall wrote: Mon May 06, 2019 6:40 pm
Dragomir wrote: Mon May 06, 2019 6:37 pm
MacDougall wrote: Mon May 06, 2019 6:33 pm
Dragomir wrote: Mon May 06, 2019 6:33 pm
Luxurious wrote: Mon May 06, 2019 6:30 pm
Dragomir wrote: Mon May 06, 2019 6:29 pm From what I recall, when Gemma was a leading wagon in D1 and right now, nobody aside from me tried to subvert it or at least break attention away from it(scum obviously didn't try to redirect the attention onto Ultra) ppl were hopping on that wagon IIRC and even right now nobody aside from me even defended Gemma. Scum is literally allowing all these votes on Gemma to be piling up. This is a bit unnerving and feels like another mislynch.
No day 1 people were townreading Gemma.

Even now DDL is throwing shade about it because apparently this site has a thing about lynching people with weird playstyles
Eh, town reading her doesn't mean much. If they tried to stop the wagon is what I'm interested in.
Is that what you are doing right now?
My case is different because I'm calling out something that doesn't make any sense. Wouldn't you have your doubts on a lynch that seems to be happening too easy?

Also. It makes no sense for a scum to try to derail a mislynch.
So It's a mislynch?
I never said that.

Re: MU Season 6 Scrimmage [Day 3]

Posted: Mon May 06, 2019 6:56 pm
by Dragomir
novaselinenever wrote: Mon May 06, 2019 6:54 pm Player s.....
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Re: MU Season 6 Scrimmage [Day 3]

Posted: Mon May 06, 2019 6:56 pm
by Dragomir
novaselinenever wrote: Mon May 06, 2019 6:54 pm Player s.....
?

Re: MU Season 6 Scrimmage [Day 3]

Posted: Mon May 06, 2019 6:59 pm
by novaselinenever
salad

Re: MU Season 6 Scrimmage [Day 3]

Posted: Mon May 06, 2019 7:01 pm
by Sloonei
Gemma was lynched. She was Town.

It is Night 3. You have 24 hours to submit your night actions.

Re: MU Season 6 Scrimmage [Night 3]

Posted: Mon May 06, 2019 7:06 pm
by Sloonei
Regarding majority voting: it is not in effect this game. If I am interpreting the tournament rules correctly, this only changes at LYLO, at which point votes become locked once a majority is reached.
nutella wrote: Mon May 06, 2019 4:47 pm
Luxurious wrote: Mon May 06, 2019 4:37 pm
Luxurious wrote: Mon May 06, 2019 4:37 pm Wait fuck does this game have maj
No it doesnt
If @Sloonei is correctly following the champs model exactly, majority should be enabled from D2 onward I believe
If this is a rule in the tournament, it is not expressed in the rules I posted for this game. As such, I will not be implementing this mechanic. Votes will continue to follow the plurality/deadline format until a potential LYLO scenario.

Re: Scrimmage polls

Posted: Tue May 07, 2019 6:34 pm
by Sloonei
Day 3


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Re: MU Season 6 Scrimmage [Day 4]

Posted: Tue May 07, 2019 7:00 pm
by Sloonei
novaselinenever has been killed. He was Town.

It is now Day 4. You have 48 hours to lynch someone.

Re: MU Season 6 Scrimmage [Day 4]

Posted: Tue May 07, 2019 7:04 pm
by nutella
Oooof sorry Gemma and rip nova.


Dragomir bad. Read his iso overnight and will gather my dirt in about an hour

Re: MU Season 6 Scrimmage [Day 4]

Posted: Tue May 07, 2019 7:08 pm
by nutella
About that DADV.... more scrutiny is in order. Really thought Gemma was bad though. :sigh:

Re: MU Season 6 Scrimmage [Day 4]

Posted: Tue May 07, 2019 7:09 pm
by Dragomir
Sloonei wrote: Mon May 06, 2019 7:01 pm Gemma was lynched. She was Town.

It is Night 3. You have 24 hours to submit your night actions.
Called it.
Sloonei wrote: Tue May 07, 2019 7:00 pm novaselinenever has been killed. He was Town.

It is now Day 4. You have 48 hours to lynch someone.
Called it!

I don't care if you take this as a scum trying to get cred from correctly town reading players who flipped town or something like that.

I stay firm on my suspicion against Jessie, Owner, DDL.

Re: MU Season 6 Scrimmage [Day 4]

Posted: Tue May 07, 2019 7:10 pm
by Luxurious
[VOTE: JJJ] aubergine

Re: MU Season 6 Scrimmage [Day 4]

Posted: Tue May 07, 2019 7:11 pm
by Luxurious
on one hand, gemma was town and that sucks

On the other hand, gemma was gonna sub out so I dont like... feel as bad as I should

Re: MU Season 6 Scrimmage [Day 4]

Posted: Tue May 07, 2019 7:14 pm
by Luxurious
Anyway I think JJJ looked a little desperate there.

Kinda townreading DDL, kinda still think Dragomir is scum but after talking to him yesterday i feel like... better about him

I’m actually back and forth on DDL because on one hand there looked to be tmi on Gemma on day 2

On the other hand, like, I’ve been reading his posts and I thought they were kinda towny

Re: MU Season 6 Scrimmage [Day 4]

Posted: Tue May 07, 2019 7:15 pm
by Luxurious
JJJ desperation also came about after Gemma said she was gonna sub so weh

Bleh

I’m gonna try to do associative reads but i still have finals to study for and packing to do fuck

Re: MU Season 6 Scrimmage [Day 4]

Posted: Tue May 07, 2019 7:15 pm
by Luxurious
Hey nutella

Give me a readslist

Re: MU Season 6 Scrimmage [Day 4]

Posted: Tue May 07, 2019 7:19 pm
by nutella
Dragomir wrote: Tue May 07, 2019 7:09 pm
Sloonei wrote: Mon May 06, 2019 7:01 pm Gemma was lynched. She was Town.

It is Night 3. You have 24 hours to submit your night actions.
Called it.
Sloonei wrote: Tue May 07, 2019 7:00 pm novaselinenever has been killed. He was Town.

It is now Day 4. You have 48 hours to lynch someone.
Called it!

I don't care if you take this as a scum trying to get cred from correctly town reading players who flipped town or something like that.

I stay firm on my suspicion against Jessie, Owner, DDL.
:ponder:

Re: MU Season 6 Scrimmage [Day 4]

Posted: Tue May 07, 2019 7:19 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
Luxurious wrote: Tue May 07, 2019 7:15 pm JJJ desperation also came about after Gemma said she was gonna sub so weh
Desperation with regard to what?

Re: MU Season 6 Scrimmage [Day 3]

Posted: Tue May 07, 2019 7:22 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
Dragomir wrote: Mon May 06, 2019 6:53 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Mon May 06, 2019 6:44 pm Preferred alternative, Dragomir?
Jessie, DDL, Owner, RDW.
I'm not pleased. You stood against the Gemma lynch, and when asked for alternatives you provided the epitome of player salad. I don't get the impression that you were making a real effort to lynch someone other than Gemma. If we follow to your suggested alternative, we have a buffet to choose from and no consolidation.

Re: MU Season 6 Scrimmage [Day 4]

Posted: Tue May 07, 2019 7:23 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
Living team dynamics were sorely under-assessed in Steely Dan, and I intend to remedy that in this game. I have a little time finally.

Re: MU Season 6 Scrimmage [Day 4]

Posted: Tue May 07, 2019 7:23 pm
by Luxurious
Just off the top of my head with no post evidence as I’ll have to around to it when I get the chance is

DDL/RDW could be w/w. Would like to see how RDW flips
JJJ/RDW could be v/w due to JJJ pushing an actual scum suspect

Mac could be scum just because pre-Gemma wagon posting was kinda non-existent and then post-Gemma wagon posting was awkward

The only thing I had for Dragomir was Nova so I’m gonna trust Nova’s Dragomir read just because I dont really have any partners for him.

Rdw/Jessie could be w/w because they fell in love in wolfchat and ran away together and then attempted to push Dragomir lynch before they vanished into the night.

Nutella exists

Re: MU Season 6 Scrimmage [Day 4]

Posted: Tue May 07, 2019 7:25 pm
by Luxurious
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Tue May 07, 2019 7:19 pm
Luxurious wrote: Tue May 07, 2019 7:15 pm JJJ desperation also came about after Gemma said she was gonna sub so weh
Desperation with regard to what?
Getting her lynched. You kinda did a big flip/ push towards her after she claimed she was gonna sub when, for the most part, you were pretty on the fence about her for D1/ D2.

Re: MU Season 6 Scrimmage [Day 4]

Posted: Tue May 07, 2019 7:27 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
Luxurious wrote: Tue May 07, 2019 7:25 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Tue May 07, 2019 7:19 pm
Luxurious wrote: Tue May 07, 2019 7:15 pm JJJ desperation also came about after Gemma said she was gonna sub so weh
Desperation with regard to what?
Getting her lynched. You kinda did a big flip/ push towards her after she claimed she was gonna sub when, for the most part, you were pretty on the fence about her for D1/ D2.
A player requesting a sub is generally meaningless to me. I viewed it as a serious problem that I could not find any reason to read a player as a civilian who had been such an active contributor to the thread. Oh well. :shrug2:

Re: MU Season 6 Scrimmage [Day 4]

Posted: Tue May 07, 2019 7:29 pm
by Luxurious
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Tue May 07, 2019 7:27 pm
Luxurious wrote: Tue May 07, 2019 7:25 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Tue May 07, 2019 7:19 pm
Luxurious wrote: Tue May 07, 2019 7:15 pm JJJ desperation also came about after Gemma said she was gonna sub so weh
Desperation with regard to what?
Getting her lynched. You kinda did a big flip/ push towards her after she claimed she was gonna sub when, for the most part, you were pretty on the fence about her for D1/ D2.
A player requesting a sub is generally meaningless to me. I viewed it as a serious problem that I could not find any reason to read a player as a civilian who had been such an active contributor to the thread. Oh well. :shrug2:
I mean fair enough I wasnt townreading her either

Re: MU Season 6 Scrimmage [Day 4]

Posted: Tue May 07, 2019 7:29 pm
by Luxurious
[VOTE: RDW] aubergine

Re: MU Season 6 Scrimmage [Day 4]

Posted: Tue May 07, 2019 7:30 pm
by MacDougall
[VOTE: Dragomir] aubergine

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Re: MU Season 6 Scrimmage [Day 4]

Posted: Tue May 07, 2019 7:31 pm
by Luxurious
It feel bad having to look at inactive players for scum but I really dont have a reason to Town read RDW or JK now that they showed up and then vanished again

Bleh i hate inactivity games

Re: MU Season 6 Scrimmage [Day 4]

Posted: Tue May 07, 2019 7:31 pm
by Luxurious
MacDougall wrote: Tue May 07, 2019 7:30 pm [VOTE: Dragomir] aubergine

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Lol

Re: MU Season 6 Scrimmage [Day 4]

Posted: Tue May 07, 2019 7:32 pm
by Dragomir
Luxurious wrote: Tue May 07, 2019 7:10 pm [VOTE: JJJ] aubergine
So are you gonna ignore all the stuff that heavily contradicts JJJ being scum which I mentioned last DP? Just asking.

Re: MU Season 6 Scrimmage [Day 4]

Posted: Tue May 07, 2019 7:34 pm
by Luxurious
Dragomir wrote: Tue May 07, 2019 7:32 pm
Luxurious wrote: Tue May 07, 2019 7:10 pm [VOTE: JJJ] aubergine
So are you gonna ignore all the stuff that heavily contradicts JJJ being scum which I mentioned last DP? Just asking.
I dont think you understand pressure votes.

But yes since I literally cannot remember anything you said about it off the top of my head

Re: MU Season 6 Scrimmage [Day 4]

Posted: Tue May 07, 2019 7:34 pm
by Owner of a Lonely Heart
Nova targeted RDW last night.

---I'm kind of pissed; you guys lynched the Night 3 town doctor.

Re: MU Season 6 Scrimmage [Day 4]

Posted: Tue May 07, 2019 7:36 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
People who know me have seen this before. The newcomers may not know what the hell this stuff means though, so a brief explanation as I begin:

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I'm going to be looking into every two-way interaction among living players included in the above chart. I had to drop a couple of players, because the workload becomes too immense otherwise. As of this moment my top civilian reads are Luxurious and Owner. As such I have dropped them. Anyone who feels they demand critical assessment via this method: I encourage you to get busy and make that happen.

I'm going to fill in the chart with colors to indicate whether I believe the two players are compatible as mafia teammates. The standard rainbow shit applies. Green good. Red bad.