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What does everyone think of Jovian shading Tutuu before her death? Actual clear or clear attempt?

Carotenoid wrote: ↑Sat Jun 27, 2020 6:59 pm

KZA wrote: ↑Sat Jun 27, 2020 6:18 pm

Carotenoid wrote: ↑Sat Jun 27, 2020 6:11 pm

KZA wrote: ↑Sat Jun 27, 2020 5:58 pm

Spoiler: show

Carotenoid wrote: ↑Sat Jun 27, 2020 5:52 pm

KZA wrote: ↑Sat Jun 27, 2020 5:49 pm

KZA wrote: ↑Sat Jun 27, 2020 5:49 pm Tell me about Soneji.

Oh I missed your summary post

Don't really like that case tbh

Yeah I can see why it's my least wolf wolf case. It was in "to sort" but then I was like eeeeeeeh nah it feels better under the line. What do you think about Sloonei Turnip Head nutella?

Sloonei and nutella will require ISOing for me to say anything right now. Turnip Head I don't know as a player but he seemed pretty sure of his case on MR which I want to say is townie?

Well I think his case was like "I ISO'ed him and his bad, I had 2/2 on him before so I'm right". It's doesn't feel like a townie that built a case and feel super confident in it.

We'll see, I'm more interested in the people that followed him on to Radishes for the time being

What about Sloonei?

Quoting this as a self-reminder to ISO Sloonei and Nutella tomorrow, pretty much out the door in a couple minute here.

Carot's latest work is looking good to me

was nice playing with you tutuu!


[mention]Carotenoid[/mention] I really believed radish was going to be a hit, I think that's evident in my iso. And yeah I have waffled quite a bit on you/jovian, I'm gonna try not to tunnel either of you too hard today because my last tunnel was wrong. it's good to see you putting in actual work but you are definitely on my shortlist for today

thread's all locked

outed wolf wrote: ↑Sat Jun 27, 2020 8:06 pm really ghana need to see more from motobot and macdougall here

agree

soneji too

KZA wrote: ↑Sat Jun 27, 2020 8:07 pm What does everyone think of Jovian shading Tutuu before her death? Actual clear or clear attempt?

i don't take much of anything from it, really. especially in the context, i doubt it was even an intentional level if they're a wolf

they're a super likely wolf independent of it

i will say i was somewhat swayed by jovians emotional pleas over the last page

i intended to say this before the night ended lol

even though his peddling of the same argument in the same words is troubling, im not sure this is the line he takes as a wolf here

ymmv

please convince meotherwise

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Jun 27, 2020 8:30 pm [VOTE: kza] aubergine

why

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Jun 27, 2020 8:31 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Jun 27, 2020 8:30 pm [VOTE: kza] aubergine

why

i'm still thinking about that

outed wolf wrote: ↑Sat Jun 27, 2020 8:28 pm i will say i was somewhat swayed by jovians emotional pleas over the last page

i intended to say this before the night ended lol

even though his peddling of the same argument in the same words is troubling, im not sure this is the line he takes as a wolf here

ymmv

please convince meotherwise

i wasn't really all that compelled by it personally, was more inclined to agree with kza that it felt over the top

think he basically backed himself into a corner and saw no choice but to double down

i... suppose he could have done that as a villager, but i'm not really sure where else he could have gone with it as a wolf at that point?

Lissa wrote: ↑Sat Jun 27, 2020 8:35 pm

outed wolf wrote: ↑Sat Jun 27, 2020 8:28 pm i will say i was somewhat swayed by jovians emotional pleas over the last page

i intended to say this before the night ended lol

even though his peddling of the same argument in the same words is troubling, im not sure this is the line he takes as a wolf here

ymmv

please convince meotherwise

i wasn't really all that compelled by it personally, was more inclined to agree with kza that it felt over the top

think he basically backed himself into a corner and saw no choice but to double down

i... suppose he could have done that as a villager, but i'm not really sure where else he could have gone with it as a wolf at that point?

they sorry

KZA wrote: ↑Sat Jun 27, 2020 8:07 pm What does everyone think of Jovian shading Tutuu before her death? Actual clear or clear attempt?

It doesn't feel staged so nah not a clear attempt. Even if I strongly townread them I don't think that *this* particularly is the thing to clear Marcher Jovian.

outed wolf wrote: ↑Sat Jun 27, 2020 8:06 pm really ghana need to see more from motobot and macdougall here

Why these two specifically? What about Soneji & DrWilgy?

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Jun 27, 2020 8:10 pm@Carotenoid I really believed radish was going to be a hit, I think that's evident in my iso. And yeah I have waffled quite a bit on you/jovian, I'm gonna try not to tunnel either of you too hard today because my last tunnel was wrong. it's good to see you putting in actual work but you are definitely on my shortlist for today

Now that Master Radishes flipped town, what do you think about dunya? Who do you think acted wolfy and opportunistic at EoD?
You acknowledging that you waffled on us doesn't change that you're still waffling.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Jun 27, 2020 8:31 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Jun 27, 2020 8:31 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Jun 27, 2020 8:30 pm [VOTE: kza] aubergine

why

i'm still thinking about that

Please think louder

So Carotte do you trust jovian as much as they trust you? You don't think they could be a wolf pocketing you?

Carotenoid wrote: ↑Sat Jun 27, 2020 8:38 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Jun 27, 2020 8:31 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Jun 27, 2020 8:31 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Jun 27, 2020 8:30 pm [VOTE: kza] aubergine

why

i'm still thinking about that

Please think louder

No.

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Jun 27, 2020 8:42 pm So Carotte do you trust jovian as much as they trust you? You don't think they could be a wolf pocketing you?

Yes. That would be such a dumb pocket.
Are you not gonna answer my questions?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Jun 27, 2020 8:42 pm

Carotenoid wrote: ↑Sat Jun 27, 2020 8:38 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Jun 27, 2020 8:31 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Jun 27, 2020 8:31 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Jun 27, 2020 8:30 pm [VOTE: kza] aubergine

why

i'm still thinking about that

Please think louder

No.

Why?

Carotenoid wrote: ↑Sat Jun 27, 2020 8:36 pm

KZA wrote: ↑Sat Jun 27, 2020 8:07 pm What does everyone think of Jovian shading Tutuu before her death? Actual clear or clear attempt?

It doesn't feel staged so nah not a clear attempt. Even if I strongly townread them I don't think that *this* particularly is the thing to clear Marcher Jovian.

outed wolf wrote: ↑Sat Jun 27, 2020 8:06 pm really ghana need to see more from motobot and macdougall here

Why these two specifically? What about Soneji & DrWilgy?

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Jun 27, 2020 8:10 pm@Carotenoid I really believed radish was going to be a hit, I think that's evident in my iso. And yeah I have waffled quite a bit on you/jovian, I'm gonna try not to tunnel either of you too hard today because my last tunnel was wrong. it's good to see you putting in actual work but you are definitely on my shortlist for today

Now that Master Radishes flipped town, what do you think about dunya? Who do you think acted wolfy and opportunistic at EoD?
You acknowledging that you waffled on us doesn't change that you're still waffling.

I'm not sure about dunya tbh. I think it's fairly likely she really believed what she was saying as much as I believed what I was saying.

I'm not sure @ second question. If you and jovian are town, and especially if wilgy also is and the wagons were truly t/t/t/t, then I think we'd need to scrutinize the people who weren't really present at eod because wolves would have just been sitting back and letting it happen. Nanook, TSP, Moth, Mac, Soneji all fall into that category (though some had rl/other excuses for not being around... but that doesn't absolve them)

okay, I'm beginning to get a sense we should lay off the carotte/jovian pair for now

[VOTE: tonystarkprime] aubergine

do things

holy shit the second page of tsp's iso is hot garbage

all empty one-liners that are either offtopic/jokes or completely useless directionless comments


he's going to guilt me into thinking that's more in line with his town meta but looking at it all together I cannot condone this body of (non)work

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Jun 27, 2020 8:49 pm okay, I'm beginning to get a sense we should lay off the carotte/jovian pair for now

Wolfy post

Marcher and carot wagons all day every day

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Jun 27, 2020 8:55 pm holy shit the second page of tsp's iso is hot garbage

all empty one-liners that are either offtopic/jokes or completely useless directionless comments


he's going to guilt me into thinking that's more in line with his town meta but looking at it all together I cannot condone this body of (non)work

If TSP is a villager I'd turbo kill nutella

Lissa wrote: ↑Sat Jun 27, 2020 8:35 pm

outed wolf wrote: ↑Sat Jun 27, 2020 8:28 pm i will say i was somewhat swayed by jovians emotional pleas over the last page

i intended to say this before the night ended lol

even though his peddling of the same argument in the same words is troubling, im not sure this is the line he takes as a wolf here

ymmv

please convince meotherwise

i wasn't really all that compelled by it personally, was more inclined to agree with kza that it felt over the top

think he basically backed himself into a corner and saw no choice but to double down

i... suppose he could have done that as a villager, but i'm not really sure where else he could have gone with it as a wolf at that point?

I agree with you

That post you quoted made me :fry:

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Jun 27, 2020 8:48 pm

Spoiler: show

Carotenoid wrote: ↑Sat Jun 27, 2020 8:36 pm

KZA wrote: ↑Sat Jun 27, 2020 8:07 pm What does everyone think of Jovian shading Tutuu before her death? Actual clear or clear attempt?

It doesn't feel staged so nah not a clear attempt. Even if I strongly townread them I don't think that *this* particularly is the thing to clear Marcher Jovian.

outed wolf wrote: ↑Sat Jun 27, 2020 8:06 pm really ghana need to see more from motobot and macdougall here

Why these two specifically? What about Soneji & DrWilgy?

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Jun 27, 2020 8:10 pm@Carotenoid I really believed radish was going to be a hit, I think that's evident in my iso. And yeah I have waffled quite a bit on you/jovian, I'm gonna try not to tunnel either of you too hard today because my last tunnel was wrong. it's good to see you putting in actual work but you are definitely on my shortlist for today

Now that Master Radishes flipped town, what do you think about dunya? Who do you think acted wolfy and opportunistic at EoD?
You acknowledging that you waffled on us doesn't change that you're still waffling.

I'm not sure about dunya tbh. I think it's fairly likely she really believed what she was saying as much as I believed what I was saying.

I'm not sure @ second question. If you and jovian are town, and especially if wilgy also is and the wagons were truly t/t/t/t, then I think we'd need to scrutinize the people who weren't really present at eod because wolves would have just been sitting back and letting it happen. Nanook, TSP, Moth, Mac, Soneji all fall into that category (though some had rl/other excuses for not being around... but that doesn't absolve them)

Hmn alright let's wait and see what dunya and others think about that.

There were like a bunch of people present at EoD, do you really don't wanna look at any of them?

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Jun 27, 2020 8:49 pm okay, I'm beginning to get a sense we should lay off the carotte/jovian pair for now

Do you think we're v/v now? Why?

bronana wrote: ↑Sat Jun 27, 2020 8:58 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Jun 27, 2020 8:49 pm okay, I'm beginning to get a sense we should lay off the carotte/jovian pair for now

Wolfy post

Marcher and carot wagons all day every day

I think you're just missing my point tbh but I could be way off

bronana wrote: ↑Sat Jun 27, 2020 8:58 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Jun 27, 2020 8:55 pm holy shit the second page of tsp's iso is hot garbage

all empty one-liners that are either offtopic/jokes or completely useless directionless comments


he's going to guilt me into thinking that's more in line with his town meta but looking at it all together I cannot condone this body of (non)work

If TSP is a villager I'd turbo kill nutella

aight whatever

not my most confident read but like, take a look at his iso, it's wolfy af

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Jun 27, 2020 9:01 pm not my most confident read but like, take a look at his iso, it's wolfy af

What are your most confident reads?

Carotenoid wrote: ↑Sat Jun 27, 2020 9:01 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Jun 27, 2020 8:48 pm

Spoiler: show

Carotenoid wrote: ↑Sat Jun 27, 2020 8:36 pm

KZA wrote: ↑Sat Jun 27, 2020 8:07 pm What does everyone think of Jovian shading Tutuu before her death? Actual clear or clear attempt?

It doesn't feel staged so nah not a clear attempt. Even if I strongly townread them I don't think that *this* particularly is the thing to clear Marcher Jovian.

outed wolf wrote: ↑Sat Jun 27, 2020 8:06 pm really ghana need to see more from motobot and macdougall here

Why these two specifically? What about Soneji & DrWilgy?

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Jun 27, 2020 8:10 pm@Carotenoid I really believed radish was going to be a hit, I think that's evident in my iso. And yeah I have waffled quite a bit on you/jovian, I'm gonna try not to tunnel either of you too hard today because my last tunnel was wrong. it's good to see you putting in actual work but you are definitely on my shortlist for today

Now that Master Radishes flipped town, what do you think about dunya? Who do you think acted wolfy and opportunistic at EoD?
You acknowledging that you waffled on us doesn't change that you're still waffling.

I'm not sure about dunya tbh. I think it's fairly likely she really believed what she was saying as much as I believed what I was saying.

I'm not sure @ second question. If you and jovian are town, and especially if wilgy also is and the wagons were truly t/t/t/t, then I think we'd need to scrutinize the people who weren't really present at eod because wolves would have just been sitting back and letting it happen. Nanook, TSP, Moth, Mac, Soneji all fall into that category (though some had rl/other excuses for not being around... but that doesn't absolve them)

Hmn alright let's wait and see what dunya and others think about that.

There were like a bunch of people present at EoD, do you really don't wanna look at any of them?

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Jun 27, 2020 8:49 pm okay, I'm beginning to get a sense we should lay off the carotte/jovian pair for now

Do you think we're v/v now? Why?

I should look back at eod probably but I'm lazy tbh. I remember thinking bronana and some others of the more active ppl looked good


I'm certainly not locked in on you being v/v, actually a pretty big part of me still wants to think you're w/w but something about the way you have talked about each other feels like you're legit

Carotenoid wrote: ↑Sat Jun 27, 2020 9:03 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Jun 27, 2020 9:01 pm not my most confident read but like, take a look at his iso, it's wolfy af

What are your most confident reads?

my townreads on:
bronana
kza
sloonei
moth

mostly.

if I'm going with my above assumption of you and marcher, then tsp is prob my top scumread atm

bronana wrote: ↑Sat Jun 27, 2020 8:58 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Jun 27, 2020 8:49 pm okay, I'm beginning to get a sense we should lay off the carotte/jovian pair for now

Wolfy post

Marcher and carot wagons all day every day

bronana wrote: ↑Sat Jun 27, 2020 8:58 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Jun 27, 2020 8:55 pm holy shit the second page of tsp's iso is hot garbage

all empty one-liners that are either offtopic/jokes or completely useless directionless comments


he's going to guilt me into thinking that's more in line with his town meta but looking at it all together I cannot condone this body of (non)work

If TSP is a villager I'd turbo kill nutella

Do you really believe a world where Marcher Jovian, nutella and me are w/w/w?

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Jun 27, 2020 8:49 pm okay, I'm beginning to get a sense we should lay off the carotte/jovian pair for now

I... what

How

lemme make a tiered read list actually

KZA
Sloonei
bronana
moth
Lissa
Long Con
DrWilgy
dunya
tedxtr
Turnip Head
motobot
Nanook
outed wolf
Soneji
{{Marcher Jovian
Carotenoid}} - caveat flipflop zone
TonyStarkPrime

Is Jovian Nutella OW w/w/w too easy lmao

Lissa wrote: ↑Sat Jun 27, 2020 9:10 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Jun 27, 2020 8:49 pm okay, I'm beginning to get a sense we should lay off the carotte/jovian pair for now

I... what

How

maybe I'm seeing things that aren't there but

it's a feeling

KZA wrote: ↑Sat Jun 27, 2020 9:12 pm Is Jovian Nutella OW w/w/w too easy lmao

explain this?

TSP is v if Jovian w imo

Carotenoid wrote: ↑Sat Jun 27, 2020 8:45 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Jun 27, 2020 8:42 pm So Carotte do you trust jovian as much as they trust you? You don't think they could be a wolf pocketing you?

Yes. That would be such a dumb pocket.
Are you not gonna answer my questions?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Jun 27, 2020 8:42 pm

Carotenoid wrote: ↑Sat Jun 27, 2020 8:38 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Jun 27, 2020 8:31 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Jun 27, 2020 8:31 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Jun 27, 2020 8:30 pm [VOTE: kza] aubergine

why

i'm still thinking about that

Please think louder

No.

Why?

I’ll think at exactly the volume I please.

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Jun 27, 2020 9:04 pm I'm certainly not locked in on you being v/v, actually a pretty big part of me still wants to think you're w/w but something about the way you have talked about each other feels like you're legit

I'm like pretty sure you thought we were v/w, this is ehhhh

Can you tell me more about DrWilgy?

I missed mac he's in the orange zone

bronana wrote: ↑Sat Jun 27, 2020 9:00 pm

Lissa wrote: ↑Sat Jun 27, 2020 8:35 pm

outed wolf wrote: ↑Sat Jun 27, 2020 8:28 pm i will say i was somewhat swayed by jovians emotional pleas over the last page

i intended to say this before the night ended lol

even though his peddling of the same argument in the same words is troubling, im not sure this is the line he takes as a wolf here

ymmv

please convince meotherwise

i wasn't really all that compelled by it personally, was more inclined to agree with kza that it felt over the top

think he basically backed himself into a corner and saw no choice but to double down

i... suppose he could have done that as a villager, but i'm not really sure where else he could have gone with it as a wolf at that point?

I agree with you

That post you quoted made me :fry:

ye

Carotenoid wrote: ↑Sat Jun 27, 2020 9:08 pm

bronana wrote: ↑Sat Jun 27, 2020 8:58 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Jun 27, 2020 8:49 pm okay, I'm beginning to get a sense we should lay off the carotte/jovian pair for now

Wolfy post

Marcher and carot wagons all day every day

bronana wrote: ↑Sat Jun 27, 2020 8:58 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Jun 27, 2020 8:55 pm holy shit the second page of tsp's iso is hot garbage

all empty one-liners that are either offtopic/jokes or completely useless directionless comments


he's going to guilt me into thinking that's more in line with his town meta but looking at it all together I cannot condone this body of (non)work

If TSP is a villager I'd turbo kill nutella

Do you really believe a world where Marcher Jovian, nutella and me are w/w/w?

Sure

Carotenoid wrote: ↑Sat Jun 27, 2020 9:13 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Jun 27, 2020 9:04 pm I'm certainly not locked in on you being v/v, actually a pretty big part of me still wants to think you're w/w but something about the way you have talked about each other feels like you're legit

I'm like pretty sure you thought we were v/w, this is ehhhh

Can you tell me more about DrWilgy?

I'm never sure what to think of wilgy. His meta is weird, he tends to flake a fair bit early game but if he's around once the player list has whittled down a bit he can do really good solving work (or can survive a while as a wolf). Someone, i forget who, mentioned that if he was a wolf he probably would have been prodded to vote for a triumvirate, but that's not a lock as he still could have missed it anyway. He came in a bit during late D1 and said he was looking at a couple isos, kza and maybe someone else, in order to get his head around some game content without reading the whole thread, which seems typical for him. I gave him a slight townlean for this but he's definitely a swing slot

KZA wrote: ↑Sat Jun 27, 2020 9:13 pm TSP is v if Jovian w imo

right, this makes sense. and nanook would be v as well I think

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Jun 27, 2020 9:12 pm

Lissa wrote: ↑Sat Jun 27, 2020 9:10 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Jun 27, 2020 8:49 pm okay, I'm beginning to get a sense we should lay off the carotte/jovian pair for now

I... what

How

maybe I'm seeing things that aren't there but

it's a feeling

your whole sequence of posting about this is pretty weird

Lissa wrote: ↑Sat Jun 27, 2020 9:23 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Jun 27, 2020 9:12 pm

Lissa wrote: ↑Sat Jun 27, 2020 9:10 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Jun 27, 2020 8:49 pm okay, I'm beginning to get a sense we should lay off the carotte/jovian pair for now

I... what

How

maybe I'm seeing things that aren't there but

it's a feeling

your whole sequence of posting about this is pretty weird

yeah that's not an accident. I'm waiting til they talk more

Rip tuutuluu

Carotenoid could be town and Jovian wolf, or they could be blatant masons, but I kinda doubt they're wolfmates

Might start with a tsp vote, I'm not as keen on trusting my own gut today after what I did to poor radishes yesterday

is it typical for wilgy to just pop in and say he's reading isos but... never say anything about them