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Re: Bread Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2021 6:48 pm
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Wed Jan 20, 2021 6:43 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Wed Jan 20, 2021 6:42 pm Look

Idk if I’ll fight for them long term

But I’d like to not kill doom or Ellie today

And no esooa’s read on Ellie doesn’t sway me at all
who should die
Made, maybe LC

Re: Bread Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2021 6:48 pm
by staypositivefriend
i ISO'd DOOM and i don't remember why i townread her in the first place. if we do live in EasyWorld where the majority of the scum are in the consensus POE, then DOOM being mafia would not surprise me in the slightest

Re: Bread Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2021 6:49 pm
by staypositivefriend
staypositivefriend wrote: Wed Jan 20, 2021 6:48 pm i ISO'd DOOM and i don't remember why i townread her in the first place. if we do live in EasyWorld where the majority of the scum are in the consensus POE, then DOOM being mafia would not surprise me in the slightest
fwiw, i feel the same way about made. it bothers me that the best reason i can give for why we might live in a made!town world is: "tone". tone reads are cool, but if my tonal tr on someone doesn't develop into a more fleshed out & logical read, then i start to get concerned

Re: Bread Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2021 6:50 pm
by DkKoba
esooa if alison and spf are scum why are u voting for neither

Re: Bread Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2021 6:51 pm
by DkKoba
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Wed Jan 20, 2021 6:47 pm
MacDougall wrote: Wed Jan 20, 2021 6:43 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Wed Jan 20, 2021 6:42 pm Look

Idk if I’ll fight for them long term

But I’d like to not kill doom or Ellie today

And no esooa’s read on Ellie doesn’t sway me at all
Why tho
I still kinda think they’re both town!

Relevant to you for Ellie at least, she’s very likely not teamed with Michelle who is in your POE afaik, i don’t think LC is very partnery with her, so that should be enough to buy her a day I’d say

I don’t really have a great argument for doom beyond that it feels like she has strong martin vibes where people often want to SR them when they’re being serious cause they can come across as a bit stilted to those of us more used to the casual syndicate conversational style posting.
can u reword this and explain like im 5?

Re: Bread Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2021 6:52 pm
by Esooa
Alison wrote: Wed Jan 20, 2021 5:20 am Also there was that series of posts by Grogu that was sufficiently off the wall that it probably crossed the line from lolcatting into "this player is sufficiently disconnected from the game that it's sorta townie"
I love the term "sufficiently off the wall" in this post

anyways the reason why is because Alison defended SPF using poor reasons earlier when Tutuu scumread spf, and this was about the same time I got scum vibes from Alison

Re: Bread Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2021 6:52 pm
by Esooa
DkKoba wrote: Wed Jan 20, 2021 6:50 pm esooa if alison and spf are scum why are u voting for neither
because I'm voting Ellie instead

Re: Bread Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2021 6:53 pm
by DkKoba
whats ur read on longcon?"

Re: Bread Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2021 6:53 pm
by Esooa
Esooa wrote: Wed Jan 20, 2021 6:52 pm
DkKoba wrote: Wed Jan 20, 2021 6:50 pm esooa if alison and spf are scum why are u voting for neither
because I'm voting Ellie instead
actual answer is cause I'm not sure on them and they're never gonna be the people I lynch today regardless

Re: Bread Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2021 6:54 pm
by Esooa
DkKoba wrote: Wed Jan 20, 2021 6:53 pm whats ur read on longcon?"
he's pretty town

Re: Bread Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2021 6:54 pm
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
DkKoba wrote: Wed Jan 20, 2021 6:51 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Wed Jan 20, 2021 6:47 pm
MacDougall wrote: Wed Jan 20, 2021 6:43 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Wed Jan 20, 2021 6:42 pm Look

Idk if I’ll fight for them long term

But I’d like to not kill doom or Ellie today

And no esooa’s read on Ellie doesn’t sway me at all
Why tho
I still kinda think they’re both town!

Relevant to you for Ellie at least, she’s very likely not teamed with Michelle who is in your POE afaik, i don’t think LC is very partnery with her, so that should be enough to buy her a day I’d say

I don’t really have a great argument for doom beyond that it feels like she has strong martin vibes where people often want to SR them when they’re being serious cause they can come across as a bit stilted to those of us more used to the casual syndicate conversational style posting.
can u reword this and explain like im 5?
Ellie has lower likelihood of being partnered with other people in Mac’s poe, so she has lower likelihood of being mafia in general from his POV.

Doom reminds me of another player that gets scumread wrongly for similar stuff.

Re: Bread Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2021 6:54 pm
by DkKoba
what makes him town?

Re: Bread Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2021 6:55 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
i quickly looked over the Ellie games that Esooa linked. Esooa's right that Bread Ellie looks like neither of them, and i am left shrugging. she's much more assertive here than she was in either of her first two games. the only note i have is from this little quote snippet out of her scum game:
last thing i want to say is that Esooa is a cutie and i thibk her direct playstyle is attractive, got you bitch, i know youre reading this and just got sneak attack hit on.
Ellie expressed admiration for Esooa's directness, and she seems to be living that directness herself this time. i don't really have a conclusion from that and this post is largely pointless but here whatever

Re: Bread Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2021 6:55 pm
by DkKoba
DkKoba wrote: Wed Jan 20, 2021 6:51 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Wed Jan 20, 2021 6:47 pm
MacDougall wrote: Wed Jan 20, 2021 6:43 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Wed Jan 20, 2021 6:42 pm Look

Idk if I’ll fight for them long term

But I’d like to not kill doom or Ellie today

And no esooa’s read on Ellie doesn’t sway me at all
Why tho
I still kinda think they’re both town!

Relevant to you for Ellie at least, she’s very likely not teamed with Michelle who is in your POE afaik, i don’t think LC is very partnery with her, so that should be enough to buy her a day I’d say

I don’t really have a great argument for doom beyond that it feels like she has strong martin vibes where people often want to SR them when they’re being serious cause they can come across as a bit stilted to those of us more used to the casual syndicate conversational style posting.
can u reword this and explain like im 5?
@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME

Re: Bread Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2021 6:55 pm
by staypositivefriend
realistically, i'm probably never going to vote outside of the pool of LC/grogu/made today. i would be shocked if that pool didn't have at least one mafia.

Re: Bread Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2021 6:56 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
i would appreciate anyone else's perspective about Made's read on me. i cannot interpret it without gobs of bias, so anyone willing to do old man JJJ a solid?

Re: Bread Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2021 6:58 pm
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
DkKoba wrote: Wed Jan 20, 2021 6:55 pm
DkKoba wrote: Wed Jan 20, 2021 6:51 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Wed Jan 20, 2021 6:47 pm
MacDougall wrote: Wed Jan 20, 2021 6:43 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Wed Jan 20, 2021 6:42 pm Look

Idk if I’ll fight for them long term

But I’d like to not kill doom or Ellie today

And no esooa’s read on Ellie doesn’t sway me at all
Why tho
I still kinda think they’re both town!

Relevant to you for Ellie at least, she’s very likely not teamed with Michelle who is in your POE afaik, i don’t think LC is very partnery with her, so that should be enough to buy her a day I’d say

I don’t really have a great argument for doom beyond that it feels like she has strong martin vibes where people often want to SR them when they’re being serious cause they can come across as a bit stilted to those of us more used to the casual syndicate conversational style posting.
can u reword this and explain like im 5?
@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
I just did this

Re: Bread Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2021 6:59 pm
by Esooa
DkKoba wrote: Wed Jan 20, 2021 6:54 pm what makes him town?
he's put more effort into solving this game than I've seen from him previously, and while it could be the case that he's doing that because he enjoys mafia more, I Don't think it is. Because I would be surprised if mafia!lc has the motivation to act in this way when likely inevitably being baked regardless. That behavior, that he's trying to solve while progressing towards being baked rather than anti-spewing, trolling, etc, along with the fact he claimed vt, which I wouldn't expect from scum him, makes me think he's town

Re: Bread Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2021 6:59 pm
by Esooa
staypositivefriend wrote: Wed Jan 20, 2021 6:55 pm realistically, i'm probably never going to vote outside of the pool of LC/grogu/made today. i would be shocked if that pool didn't have at least one mafia.
why not DOOM or ellie

Re: Bread Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:03 pm
by EllieDelight
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Wed Jan 20, 2021 6:55 pm i quickly looked over the Ellie games that Esooa linked. Esooa's right that Bread Ellie looks like neither of them, and i am left shrugging. she's much more assertive here than she was in either of her first two games. the only note i have is from this little quote snippet out of her scum game:

Ellie expressed admiration for Esooa's directness, and she seems to be living that directness herself this time. i don't really have a conclusion from that and this post is largely pointless but here whatever
why does that have to be the one thing you quoted, it makes me look cringe af in front of all the cool people

Re: Bread Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:03 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
gonna have 2,000 posts in a Heist with 24 hours left in Day 1

Image

Re: Bread Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:03 pm
by Esooa
EllieDelight wrote: Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:03 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Wed Jan 20, 2021 6:55 pm i quickly looked over the Ellie games that Esooa linked. Esooa's right that Bread Ellie looks like neither of them, and i am left shrugging. she's much more assertive here than she was in either of her first two games. the only note i have is from this little quote snippet out of her scum game:

Ellie expressed admiration for Esooa's directness, and she seems to be living that directness herself this time. i don't really have a conclusion from that and this post is largely pointless but here whatever
why does that have to be the one thing you quoted, it makes me look cringe af in front of all the cool people
lmao it doesn't make you look cringe

Re: Bread Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:03 pm
by Long Con
MacDougall wrote: Wed Jan 20, 2021 4:54 pm
Long Con wrote: Wed Jan 20, 2021 4:49 pm
MacDougall wrote: Wed Jan 20, 2021 4:39 pm Hey Jay doesn't LC have to be scum for that read to be valid tho? What does it mean for poor Grogu if LC flips town?
I'm working right now so not really keeping up, so I don't know really what you're talking about, but I am going to flip town, factor that in if you want to make it easier on your brain.

Also I remember having an emotional back and forth with Nanook, but I don't remember which game was with Jay.
Who is bad?
I just want to know if you want a different answer than the last two people who asked, or the same one?

Is repeated post recollection alignment indicative for you, would you say?

Re: Bread Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:04 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
EllieDelight wrote: Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:03 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Wed Jan 20, 2021 6:55 pm i quickly looked over the Ellie games that Esooa linked. Esooa's right that Bread Ellie looks like neither of them, and i am left shrugging. she's much more assertive here than she was in either of her first two games. the only note i have is from this little quote snippet out of her scum game:

Ellie expressed admiration for Esooa's directness, and she seems to be living that directness herself this time. i don't really have a conclusion from that and this post is largely pointless but here whatever
why does that have to be the one thing you quoted, it makes me look cringe af in front of all the cool people
i think it was a perfectly cool thing to say. face it, you're cool.

Re: Bread Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:04 pm
by staypositivefriend
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Wed Jan 20, 2021 6:56 pm i would appreciate anyone else's perspective about Made's read on me. i cannot interpret it without gobs of bias, so anyone willing to do old man JJJ a solid?
the thing that bothers me the most about made's read on you is the dissonance between their level of confidence vs the reasoning they've presented in the thread

like, when you questioned made about his read on you, he gave you this answer:
Made wrote: Wed Jan 20, 2021 3:17 pm U just seem bad. I’m not looking to vote you rn, and Mac seems to trust u so I’m not obsessed, but ur takes just feel like they could come from scum
and that answer is fine - it seems to come w/a willingness to give your alignment consideration and to not come after you too aggressively

but it contrasts very awkwardly with this post:
Made wrote: Tue Jan 19, 2021 3:28 am I think nutella is shifty because of interaction with JJJ who is my biggest scum read
made says that you are his strongest scumread, and he feels so confident about you being mafia that he is willing to base his other reads on pre-flip partner associations. that isn't inherently scummy, but it feels inconsistent with how understated and passive made's explanation of his read on you has been. it makes me concerned that made is not authentically trying to read you

Re: Bread Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:05 pm
by DkKoba
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Wed Jan 20, 2021 6:54 pm
DkKoba wrote: Wed Jan 20, 2021 6:51 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Wed Jan 20, 2021 6:47 pm
MacDougall wrote: Wed Jan 20, 2021 6:43 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Wed Jan 20, 2021 6:42 pm Look

Idk if I’ll fight for them long term

But I’d like to not kill doom or Ellie today

And no esooa’s read on Ellie doesn’t sway me at all
Why tho
I still kinda think they’re both town!

Relevant to you for Ellie at least, she’s very likely not teamed with Michelle who is in your POE afaik, i don’t think LC is very partnery with her, so that should be enough to buy her a day I’d say

I don’t really have a great argument for doom beyond that it feels like she has strong martin vibes where people often want to SR them when they’re being serious cause they can come across as a bit stilted to those of us more used to the casual syndicate conversational style posting.
can u reword this and explain like im 5?
Ellie has lower likelihood of being partnered with other people in Mac’s poe, so she has lower likelihood of being mafia in general from his POV.

Doom reminds me of another player that gets scumread wrongly for similar stuff.
ok well this seems extremely vague and noncommittal

how strong is this read to you?

Re: Bread Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:05 pm
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
EllieDelight wrote: Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:03 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Wed Jan 20, 2021 6:55 pm i quickly looked over the Ellie games that Esooa linked. Esooa's right that Bread Ellie looks like neither of them, and i am left shrugging. she's much more assertive here than she was in either of her first two games. the only note i have is from this little quote snippet out of her scum game:

Ellie expressed admiration for Esooa's directness, and she seems to be living that directness herself this time. i don't really have a conclusion from that and this post is largely pointless but here whatever
why does that have to be the one thing you quoted, it makes me look cringe af in front of all the cool people
We celebrated hitting 696969 posts

I don’t think you have to worry about looking cringe

Re: Bread Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:06 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
thanks @staypositivefriend. i agree at least that it doesn't seem a balanced or consistent progression with respect to his confidence level. not sure that's "bad", but at the least it's not "good"

Re: Bread Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:06 pm
by staypositivefriend
Esooa wrote: Wed Jan 20, 2021 6:59 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: Wed Jan 20, 2021 6:55 pm realistically, i'm probably never going to vote outside of the pool of LC/grogu/made today. i would be shocked if that pool didn't have at least one mafia.
why not DOOM or ellie
i could probably be talked into scumreading both of those people, tbqh, but they aren't at the bottom of my POE right now. if you have a god scumread on ellie, then it's something i'll put a lot of consideration into, though

Re: Bread Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:06 pm
by Long Con
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Wed Jan 20, 2021 5:03 pm
EllieDelight wrote: Wed Jan 20, 2021 4:55 pm
Esooa wrote: Wed Jan 20, 2021 11:31 am I think lc is town
this is false, you think lc is mafia
i don't understand the dynamic between you two and cannot tell if/when something is a joke, e.g. this
Ellie doesn't want to let go of an easy town yeet, because if you A-listers are even mostly right about who is town/towncore, then losing a scum such as Ellie in the first Day would be devastating.

Re: Bread Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:07 pm
by DkKoba
Esooa wrote: Wed Jan 20, 2021 6:59 pm
DkKoba wrote: Wed Jan 20, 2021 6:54 pm what makes him town?
he's put more effort into solving this game than I've seen from him previously, and while it could be the case that he's doing that because he enjoys mafia more, I Don't think it is. Because I would be surprised if mafia!lc has the motivation to act in this way when likely inevitably being baked regardless. That behavior, that he's trying to solve while progressing towards being baked rather than anti-spewing, trolling, etc, along with the fact he claimed vt, which I wouldn't expect from scum him, makes me think he's town
have u played with them being mafia to know this? or is this u just assuming?

Re: Bread Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:07 pm
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
DkKoba wrote: Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:05 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Wed Jan 20, 2021 6:54 pm
DkKoba wrote: Wed Jan 20, 2021 6:51 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Wed Jan 20, 2021 6:47 pm
MacDougall wrote: Wed Jan 20, 2021 6:43 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Wed Jan 20, 2021 6:42 pm Look

Idk if I’ll fight for them long term

But I’d like to not kill doom or Ellie today

And no esooa’s read on Ellie doesn’t sway me at all
Why tho
I still kinda think they’re both town!

Relevant to you for Ellie at least, she’s very likely not teamed with Michelle who is in your POE afaik, i don’t think LC is very partnery with her, so that should be enough to buy her a day I’d say

I don’t really have a great argument for doom beyond that it feels like she has strong martin vibes where people often want to SR them when they’re being serious cause they can come across as a bit stilted to those of us more used to the casual syndicate conversational style posting.
can u reword this and explain like im 5?
Ellie has lower likelihood of being partnered with other people in Mac’s poe, so she has lower likelihood of being mafia in general from his POV.

Doom reminds me of another player that gets scumread wrongly for similar stuff.
ok well this seems extremely vague and noncommittal

how strong is this read to you?
You seem vague and noncommittal

Strong enough I don’t want them to die D1

Re: Bread Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:08 pm
by Esooa
DkKoba wrote: Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:07 pm
Esooa wrote: Wed Jan 20, 2021 6:59 pm
DkKoba wrote: Wed Jan 20, 2021 6:54 pm what makes him town?
he's put more effort into solving this game than I've seen from him previously, and while it could be the case that he's doing that because he enjoys mafia more, I Don't think it is. Because I would be surprised if mafia!lc has the motivation to act in this way when likely inevitably being baked regardless. That behavior, that he's trying to solve while progressing towards being baked rather than anti-spewing, trolling, etc, along with the fact he claimed vt, which I wouldn't expect from scum him, makes me think he's town
have u played with them being mafia to know this? or is this u just assuming?
I'm making assumptions cause I feel like it

Re: Bread Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:08 pm
by nutella
ok so it seems like ellie is probably mafia

Re: Bread Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:09 pm
by Long Con
Michelle wrote: Wed Jan 20, 2021 5:40 pm
Esooa wrote: Wed Jan 20, 2021 5:27 pm You are saying Ellie is lying about the amount of games she's played when that's straight up not true
You are her lawyer or what?
What from i wanted an interaction with her was not in english?
Is not like you have a ton of experience yourself and when you jump and stop an interaction not adressed at you accusing someone of bulshitting you have to explain why becasue is not a natural behaviour. And the fact you know her irl is not relevant for the game.

Remember you didn't want to explain earlier how do you perceive the gamestate because allegedly you waited for content, but you can't observe you can stay in your place when the convo is about someone else.

:confused: where is your head at?
Sounds to me like Esooa still feels a little responsible for Ellie's Mafia experience, which I would understand.

Re: Bread Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:09 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
[VOTE: Made] aubergine

Re: Bread Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:09 pm
by DkKoba
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:07 pm
DkKoba wrote: Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:05 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Wed Jan 20, 2021 6:54 pm
DkKoba wrote: Wed Jan 20, 2021 6:51 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Wed Jan 20, 2021 6:47 pm
MacDougall wrote: Wed Jan 20, 2021 6:43 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Wed Jan 20, 2021 6:42 pm Look

Idk if I’ll fight for them long term

But I’d like to not kill doom or Ellie today

And no esooa’s read on Ellie doesn’t sway me at all
Why tho
I still kinda think they’re both town!

Relevant to you for Ellie at least, she’s very likely not teamed with Michelle who is in your POE afaik, i don’t think LC is very partnery with her, so that should be enough to buy her a day I’d say

I don’t really have a great argument for doom beyond that it feels like she has strong martin vibes where people often want to SR them when they’re being serious cause they can come across as a bit stilted to those of us more used to the casual syndicate conversational style posting.
can u reword this and explain like im 5?
Ellie has lower likelihood of being partnered with other people in Mac’s poe, so she has lower likelihood of being mafia in general from his POV.

Doom reminds me of another player that gets scumread wrongly for similar stuff.
ok well this seems extremely vague and noncommittal

how strong is this read to you?
You seem vague and noncommittal

Strong enough I don’t want them to die D1
I'm not but ok. What's ur PoE rn?

Re: Bread Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:10 pm
by nutella
Esooa wrote: Wed Jan 20, 2021 6:47 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: Wed Jan 20, 2021 6:46 pm @esooa - why does an alison!scum world imply a scum!spf world? i'm curious about the connection there
idr why right now but I super strongly got that feeling from some of your posts on my catchup
i had thought about that world as well, wonder if the fact that we both kinda feel it ~means something~

Re: Bread Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:10 pm
by Long Con
nutella wrote: Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:08 pm ok so it seems like ellie is probably mafia
You heard it here first. But I'm a nasty busser, so it might not mean all that much. Still.

Re: Bread Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:10 pm
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
DkKoba wrote: Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:09 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:07 pm
DkKoba wrote: Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:05 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Wed Jan 20, 2021 6:54 pm
DkKoba wrote: Wed Jan 20, 2021 6:51 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Wed Jan 20, 2021 6:47 pm
MacDougall wrote: Wed Jan 20, 2021 6:43 pm

Why tho
I still kinda think they’re both town!

Relevant to you for Ellie at least, she’s very likely not teamed with Michelle who is in your POE afaik, i don’t think LC is very partnery with her, so that should be enough to buy her a day I’d say

I don’t really have a great argument for doom beyond that it feels like she has strong martin vibes where people often want to SR them when they’re being serious cause they can come across as a bit stilted to those of us more used to the casual syndicate conversational style posting.
can u reword this and explain like im 5?
Ellie has lower likelihood of being partnered with other people in Mac’s poe, so she has lower likelihood of being mafia in general from his POV.

Doom reminds me of another player that gets scumread wrongly for similar stuff.
ok well this seems extremely vague and noncommittal

how strong is this read to you?
You seem vague and noncommittal

Strong enough I don’t want them to die D1
I'm not but ok. What's ur PoE rn?
Today it’s made and LC basically

Re: Bread Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:10 pm
by DkKoba
Esooa wrote: Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:08 pm
DkKoba wrote: Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:07 pm
Esooa wrote: Wed Jan 20, 2021 6:59 pm
DkKoba wrote: Wed Jan 20, 2021 6:54 pm what makes him town?
he's put more effort into solving this game than I've seen from him previously, and while it could be the case that he's doing that because he enjoys mafia more, I Don't think it is. Because I would be surprised if mafia!lc has the motivation to act in this way when likely inevitably being baked regardless. That behavior, that he's trying to solve while progressing towards being baked rather than anti-spewing, trolling, etc, along with the fact he claimed vt, which I wouldn't expect from scum him, makes me think he's town
have u played with them being mafia to know this? or is this u just assuming?
I'm making assumptions cause I feel like it
So without assuming, whats ur read there?

Re: Bread Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:11 pm
by Long Con
Esooa wrote: Wed Jan 20, 2021 5:56 pm
Michelle wrote: Wed Jan 20, 2021 5:54 pm
Esooa wrote: Wed Jan 20, 2021 5:45 pm
Michelle wrote: Wed Jan 20, 2021 5:40 pm
Esooa wrote: Wed Jan 20, 2021 5:27 pm You are saying Ellie is lying about the amount of games she's played when that's straight up not true
You are her lawyer or what?
What from i wanted an interaction with her was not in english?
Is not like you have a ton of experience yourself and when you jump and stop an interaction not adressed at you accusing someone of bulshitting you have to explain why becasue is not a natural behaviour. And the fact you know her irl is not relevant for the game.

Remember you didn't want to explain earlier how do you perceive the gamestate because allegedly you waited for content, but you can't observe you can stay in your place when the convo is about someone else.

:confused: where is your head at?
you are literally

straight up

lying

about verifiable, numerical, things

for no fucking reason

so I am telling you to stop
I don’t want to stop
I don't lie, i was saying your friend is too bold to be a noob.
That's not lying, is showing my opinion
You can't shot my mouth by being rude.
I want to talk with Ellie, not you.
I have a read for you.

@EllieDelight explain me how you see your game, what alignament was nicer for you to play, and what's your goal when playing.
she ISN'T too bold to be a newb because she is a newb, this is literally factual, it isn't an opinion, it is factually correct that she is new to mafia and you can either acknowledge that or just be factually incorrect
Kind of a compliment, isn't it? :confused:

Re: Bread Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:11 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
i have no reason to call Ellie town. my only reason for sparing her is "Nanook requested it", which means a non-zero amount. i am open

someone's gonna call me her teammate later if she flips mafia because of this post

Re: Bread Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:12 pm
by staypositivefriend
Long Con wrote: Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:10 pm
nutella wrote: Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:08 pm ok so it seems like ellie is probably mafia
You heard it here first. But I'm a nasty busser, so it might not mean all that much. Still.
this post contrasts awkwardly w/LC making the "haha, you guys have so much egg on your face"-type posts. i don't understand how he can make posts that come across as borderline open wolfing while simultaneously putting down the town for misreading him

unless he just wants to watch the world burn

Re: Bread Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:12 pm
by Long Con
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:10 pm
DkKoba wrote: Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:09 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:07 pm
DkKoba wrote: Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:05 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Wed Jan 20, 2021 6:54 pm
DkKoba wrote: Wed Jan 20, 2021 6:51 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Wed Jan 20, 2021 6:47 pm

I still kinda think they’re both town!

Relevant to you for Ellie at least, she’s very likely not teamed with Michelle who is in your POE afaik, i don’t think LC is very partnery with her, so that should be enough to buy her a day I’d say

I don’t really have a great argument for doom beyond that it feels like she has strong martin vibes where people often want to SR them when they’re being serious cause they can come across as a bit stilted to those of us more used to the casual syndicate conversational style posting.
can u reword this and explain like im 5?
Ellie has lower likelihood of being partnered with other people in Mac’s poe, so she has lower likelihood of being mafia in general from his POV.

Doom reminds me of another player that gets scumread wrongly for similar stuff.
ok well this seems extremely vague and noncommittal

how strong is this read to you?
You seem vague and noncommittal

Strong enough I don’t want them to die D1
I'm not but ok. What's ur PoE rn?
Today it’s made and LC basically
How about you start again and reconsider that?

Re: Bread Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:12 pm
by Long Con
staypositivefriend wrote: Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:12 pm
Long Con wrote: Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:10 pm
nutella wrote: Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:08 pm ok so it seems like ellie is probably mafia
You heard it here first. But I'm a nasty busser, so it might not mean all that much. Still.
this post contrasts awkwardly w/LC making the "haha, you guys have so much egg on your face"-type posts. i don't understand how he can make posts that come across as borderline open wolfing while simultaneously putting down the town for misreading him

unless he just wants to watch the world burn
Just because you decide something is "openwolfing", it doesn't mean that's my intention.

Re: Bread Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:12 pm
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:11 pm i have no reason to call Ellie town. my only reason for sparing her is "Nanook requested it", which means a non-zero amount. i am open

someone's gonna call me her teammate later if she flips mafia because of this post
They’ll probably call me mafia first lol

Re: Bread Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:13 pm
by staypositivefriend
the fact that esooa scumreads ellie might be significant. she probably has the best baseline for what constitutes ellie's scum game vs her town game, and i'm leaning town on her

Re: Bread Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:13 pm
by nutella
Esooa wrote: Wed Jan 20, 2021 6:59 pm
DkKoba wrote: Wed Jan 20, 2021 6:54 pm what makes him town?
he's put more effort into solving this game than I've seen from him previously, and while it could be the case that he's doing that because he enjoys mafia more, I Don't think it is. Because I would be surprised if mafia!lc has the motivation to act in this way when likely inevitably being baked regardless. That behavior, that he's trying to solve while progressing towards being baked rather than anti-spewing, trolling, etc, along with the fact he claimed vt, which I wouldn't expect from scum him, makes me think he's town
show me where he tries to solve?

i remember him tossing out "alison and nanook are scum" a bunch of times but like.... nothing with remotely any depth of reasoning

Re: Bread Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:13 pm
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Long Con wrote: Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:12 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:10 pm
DkKoba wrote: Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:09 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:07 pm
DkKoba wrote: Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:05 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Wed Jan 20, 2021 6:54 pm
DkKoba wrote: Wed Jan 20, 2021 6:51 pm

can u reword this and explain like im 5?
Ellie has lower likelihood of being partnered with other people in Mac’s poe, so she has lower likelihood of being mafia in general from his POV.

Doom reminds me of another player that gets scumread wrongly for similar stuff.
ok well this seems extremely vague and noncommittal

how strong is this read to you?
You seem vague and noncommittal

Strong enough I don’t want them to die D1
I'm not but ok. What's ur PoE rn?
Today it’s made and LC basically
How about you start again and reconsider that?
Unlikely to happen atp