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Re: basic mafia [DAY 3]

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 1:44 pm
by Dyslexicon
Luckbox Inc wrote: Tue Jul 13, 2021 12:56 pm The thing about Dizzy that bothers me is that from the reading I did of Space Invaders, I thought Dizzy was a lot more villagery there. So I'll look at that today.
There was one post in this game that I thought was legitimately really villagery, but can see some of it coming from a wolf in comparison to the other game.
And my reads were fucking great there too. Among other things, my Alison read.

If you want to meta dive me, probably go after more recent games, and I can’t promise it’ll help you.

Re: basic mafia [DAY 3]

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 1:59 pm
by Dyslexicon
Out of current non Alison wagons, I prefer Mac. (Probably more game state than anything, though I didn’t particularly like his reaction to Ender, but not going to pretend I can read him)

Falcon
Lucky

TSP
Axe

Ender
Fingers
Nanook

Lu Ren
Mac

Alison

And I would really prefer to just kill one of me or Alison today. Still. I don’t know why she’s given a pass here.

Will hardly have time to post rest of day phase probably.

Re: basic mafia [DAY 3]

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 2:27 pm
by Luckbox Inc
I had thought you were softening on Alison?

Re: basic mafia [DAY 3]

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 3:08 pm
by Lu Ren
Dyslexicon wrote: Tue Jul 13, 2021 2:18 am @Lu Ren Is there a reason you haven't said what name I would know you by?
Yes, I don't really want to. If this game went differently and it made me want to dive in and get my hands dirty maybe, but I prefer the anonymity in terms of not feeling like I have to contribute more than I want and feel responsible to just being a random person here as of right now.

Re: basic mafia [DAY 3]

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 3:14 pm
by NotAnAxehole
Lu Ren wrote: Tue Jul 13, 2021 3:08 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: Tue Jul 13, 2021 2:18 am @Lu Ren Is there a reason you haven't said what name I would know you by?
Yes, I don't really want to. If this game went differently and it made me want to dive in and get my hands dirty maybe, but I prefer the anonymity in terms of not feeling like I have to contribute more than I want and feel responsible to just being a random person here as of right now.
:haha:

Re: basic mafia [DAY 2]

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 3:48 pm
by Lu Ren
Dyslexicon wrote: Tue Jul 13, 2021 2:38 am
Lu Ren wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 4:01 pmi kinda liked belzy's d1 but i think bo's today has been pretty terrible particularly wrt their handling of the alison slot and i feel like there's a solid chance mafia are just being like oh! but everyone said belzy made good posts d1! let's ignore bo and use that as a reason to keep v-reading our partner
I know it's after the fact, but did you have an opinion on which potential mafia where doing this?
don't remember who, but it was a subset of people that i didn't think were terribly villagery and felt like they were ignoring bo's d2 in the light of weird deterministic alison machinations

Re: basic mafia [DAY 3]

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 3:55 pm
by Lu Ren
think finger's been pretty villagery and also feel like there aren't enough wolves but i'm not sure who's accidentally hard-shielding whom

Re: basic mafia [DAY 3]

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 4:48 pm
by Luckbox Inc
[VOTE: Dizzy] aubergine

Re: basic mafia [DAY 3]

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 6:01 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
i'd vote alison over dizzy but I also sorta have a "idk what to do about dizzy" read on dizzy

Re: basic mafia [DAY 3]

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 6:05 pm
by MacDougall
Lu Ren wrote: Tue Jul 13, 2021 3:55 pm think finger's been pretty villagery and also feel like there aren't enough wolves but i'm not sure who's accidentally hard-shielding whom
try to figure it out then

Re: basic mafia [DAY 3]

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 6:06 pm
by Luckbox Inc
[VOTE: Mac] aubergine

Re: basic mafia [DAY 3]

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 6:07 pm
by Luckbox Inc
Mac/Fingers/Dizzy

otherwise Nook.

Re: basic mafia [DAY 3]

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 6:24 pm
by MacDougall
I want Falcon reads. Dude's been parked on me all day.

Re: basic mafia [DAY 3]

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 6:33 pm
by EnderWiggin
MacDougall wrote: Tue Jul 13, 2021 6:24 pm I want Falcon reads. Dude's been parked on me all day.
Town.

Re: basic mafia [DAY 3]

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 6:34 pm
by EnderWiggin
Thoughts:
Why is Alison alive? First thing I thought of while I woke up this morning.

If she's green and I'm right with my town leans then one vote from mafia would've flipped her.

Re: basic mafia [DAY 3]

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 6:34 pm
by MacDougall
EnderWiggin wrote: Tue Jul 13, 2021 6:33 pm
MacDougall wrote: Tue Jul 13, 2021 6:24 pm I want Falcon reads. Dude's been parked on me all day.
Town.
Maybe I am the wolf after all. :ponder:

Re: basic mafia [DAY 3]

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 6:37 pm
by MacDougall
EnderWiggin wrote: Tue Jul 13, 2021 6:34 pm Thoughts:
Why is Alison alive? First thing I thought of while I woke up this morning.

If she's green and I'm right with my town leans then one vote from mafia would've flipped her.
I chose to kill Bo instead of her because I believe her to be town.

Re: basic mafia [DAY 3]

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 6:39 pm
by EnderWiggin
MacDougall wrote: Tue Jul 13, 2021 6:37 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: Tue Jul 13, 2021 6:34 pm Thoughts:
Why is Alison alive? First thing I thought of while I woke up this morning.

If she's green and I'm right with my town leans then one vote from mafia would've flipped her.
I chose to kill Bo instead of her because I believe her to be town.
If Fingers is red and Alison green, Fingers could have easily gotten away with a vote on Alison and she would have flipped.

Bo was an easy ML though, and maybe keeping Alison around is part of the plan.

Ideally I would like LB today but:

IF Fingers flips Red, this actually gives Mac a strong town lean.

Re: basic mafia [DAY 3]

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 6:40 pm
by EnderWiggin
@MacDougall What are your thoughts on my delirious stream-of-consciousness?

Re: basic mafia [DAY 3]

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 6:40 pm
by MacDougall
Mafia Mac never saves Alison town. Trust that lol.

Re: basic mafia [DAY 3]

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 6:40 pm
by EnderWiggin
But question:
Why is Fingers self-voting as red?

Re: basic mafia [DAY 3]

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 6:40 pm
by EnderWiggin
Answer, wifom

Re: basic mafia [DAY 3]

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 6:40 pm
by MacDougall
EnderWiggin wrote: Tue Jul 13, 2021 6:40 pm @MacDougall What are your thoughts on my delirious stream-of-consciousness?
i like u. u r cool guy.

Re: basic mafia [DAY 3]

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 6:41 pm
by EnderWiggin
MacDougall wrote: Tue Jul 13, 2021 6:40 pm Mafia Mac never saves Alison town. Trust that lol.
What about the odd world where you/Alison are w/w?

Re: basic mafia [DAY 3]

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 6:42 pm
by MacDougall
of course I vote bo there in that case

Re: basic mafia [DAY 3]

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 7:11 pm
by EnderWiggin
MacDougall wrote: Tue Jul 13, 2021 6:34 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: Tue Jul 13, 2021 6:33 pm
MacDougall wrote: Tue Jul 13, 2021 6:24 pm I want Falcon reads. Dude's been parked on me all day.
Town.
Maybe I am the wolf after all. :ponder:
Eh, Falcon being wrong wouldn't surprise me. Could be that you are tho.

Re: basic mafia [DAY 3]

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 7:32 pm
by MacDougall
EnderWiggin wrote: Tue Jul 13, 2021 7:11 pm
MacDougall wrote: Tue Jul 13, 2021 6:34 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: Tue Jul 13, 2021 6:33 pm
MacDougall wrote: Tue Jul 13, 2021 6:24 pm I want Falcon reads. Dude's been parked on me all day.
Town.
Maybe I am the wolf after all. :ponder:
Eh, Falcon being wrong wouldn't surprise me. Could be that you are tho.
You're that sure Falcon is town?

Re: basic mafia [DAY 3]

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 7:35 pm
by EnderWiggin
MacDougall wrote: Tue Jul 13, 2021 7:32 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: Tue Jul 13, 2021 7:11 pm
MacDougall wrote: Tue Jul 13, 2021 6:34 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: Tue Jul 13, 2021 6:33 pm
MacDougall wrote: Tue Jul 13, 2021 6:24 pm I want Falcon reads. Dude's been parked on me all day.
Town.
Maybe I am the wolf after all. :ponder:
Eh, Falcon being wrong wouldn't surprise me. Could be that you are tho.
You're that sure Falcon is town?
Am I that sure about anything right now?

Nah if I had to take a stance, I will defend Falcon from lynch today.

Re: basic mafia [DAY 3]

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 7:35 pm
by MacDougall
EnderWiggin wrote: Tue Jul 13, 2021 7:35 pm
MacDougall wrote: Tue Jul 13, 2021 7:32 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: Tue Jul 13, 2021 7:11 pm
MacDougall wrote: Tue Jul 13, 2021 6:34 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: Tue Jul 13, 2021 6:33 pm
MacDougall wrote: Tue Jul 13, 2021 6:24 pm I want Falcon reads. Dude's been parked on me all day.
Town.
Maybe I am the wolf after all. :ponder:
Eh, Falcon being wrong wouldn't surprise me. Could be that you are tho.
You're that sure Falcon is town?
Am I that sure about anything right now?

Nah if I had to take a stance, I will defend Falcon from lynch today.
I just wanna flip fingersplints.

Re: basic mafia [DAY 3]

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 7:55 pm
by EnderWiggin
I'm worried flipping Fingersplints is just more green because of the self-vote.

Re: basic mafia [DAY 3]

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 8:02 pm
by EnderWiggin
Highest preference?

[VOTE: Luckbox] aubergine

Re: basic mafia [DAY 3]

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 8:34 pm
by Luckbox Inc
EnderWiggin wrote: Tue Jul 13, 2021 8:02 pm Highest preference?

[VOTE: Luckbox] aubergine
We should talk

Re: basic mafia [DAY 3]

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 8:35 pm
by EnderWiggin
Dyslexicon wrote: Tue Jul 13, 2021 1:42 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: Tue Jul 13, 2021 11:44 am Mac is not paired with Lu Ren.

Alison has moderately high equity with Lu Ren.

This makes Alison/Mac unlikely. They're good enough it's possible but I'm going to table that tinfoil for now.
Can you explain this further, cause I’m not following?
Well I recanted the "Mac is not paired with Lu Ren" later.

But the idea was Mac/Lu NOT w/w

Alison/Lu high w/w

Therefore Mac/Alison low w/w.

Reads by association if that makes sense.

Re: basic mafia [DAY 3]

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 8:35 pm
by EnderWiggin
Luckbox Inc wrote: Tue Jul 13, 2021 8:34 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: Tue Jul 13, 2021 8:02 pm Highest preference?

[VOTE: Luckbox] aubergine
We should talk
Hi.

Re: basic mafia [DAY 3]

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 8:41 pm
by Luckbox Inc
EnderWiggin wrote: Tue Jul 13, 2021 8:35 pm
Luckbox Inc wrote: Tue Jul 13, 2021 8:34 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: Tue Jul 13, 2021 8:02 pm Highest preference?

[VOTE: Luckbox] aubergine
We should talk
Hi.
Which one of the people I think are wolves do you disagree with?

Re: basic mafia [DAY 3]

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 8:42 pm
by EnderWiggin
Luckbox Inc wrote: Tue Jul 13, 2021 8:41 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: Tue Jul 13, 2021 8:35 pm
Luckbox Inc wrote: Tue Jul 13, 2021 8:34 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: Tue Jul 13, 2021 8:02 pm Highest preference?

[VOTE: Luckbox] aubergine
We should talk
Hi.
Which one of the people I think are wolves do you disagree with?
Dizzy is outside my PoE.

See my posts.

Mac and Finger probably not w/w. I would not be surprised at w/v tho.

Re: basic mafia [DAY 3]

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 8:49 pm
by Luckbox Inc
EnderWiggin wrote: Tue Jul 13, 2021 8:42 pm
Luckbox Inc wrote: Tue Jul 13, 2021 8:41 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: Tue Jul 13, 2021 8:35 pm
Luckbox Inc wrote: Tue Jul 13, 2021 8:34 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: Tue Jul 13, 2021 8:02 pm Highest preference?

[VOTE: Luckbox] aubergine
We should talk
Hi.
Which one of the people I think are wolves do you disagree with?
Dizzy is outside my PoE.

See my posts.

Mac and Finger probably not w/w. I would not be surprised at w/v tho.
I don't see why Mac and Finger can't be w/w.

And I'm sure Dizzy can be a villager but I'm trying it out.

Re: basic mafia [DAY 3]

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 8:58 pm
by EnderWiggin
Luckbox Inc wrote: Tue Jul 13, 2021 8:49 pm I don't see why Mac and Finger can't be w/w.

And I'm sure Dizzy can be a villager but I'm trying it out.
Back and forth.

Mac also effectively started a wagon on her for no reason. Weird to do as scum and stick to it when this bus is out of left wing. (Remember Mac had an earlier townread he could've just passed fingers over if w/w)

Re: basic mafia [DAY 3]

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 8:59 pm
by Luckbox Inc
he could also realize that a lot of people think he's wolfy and decide to protect fingers by pushing her

Re: basic mafia [DAY 3]

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 9:01 pm
by EnderWiggin
Luckbox Inc wrote: Tue Jul 13, 2021 8:59 pm he could also realize that a lot of people think he's wolfy and decide to protect fingers by pushing her
Sure, but feels unnecessary. Feels like hedging your bets on unlikely options when the option was obvious.

Re: basic mafia [DAY 3]

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 11:44 pm
by MacDougall
Luckbox Inc wrote: Tue Jul 13, 2021 8:49 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: Tue Jul 13, 2021 8:42 pm
Luckbox Inc wrote: Tue Jul 13, 2021 8:41 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: Tue Jul 13, 2021 8:35 pm
Luckbox Inc wrote: Tue Jul 13, 2021 8:34 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: Tue Jul 13, 2021 8:02 pm Highest preference?

[VOTE: Luckbox] aubergine
We should talk
Hi.
Which one of the people I think are wolves do you disagree with?
Dizzy is outside my PoE.

See my posts.

Mac and Finger probably not w/w. I would not be surprised at w/v tho.
I don't see why Mac and Finger can't be w/w.

And I'm sure Dizzy can be a villager but I'm trying it out.
read posts

Re: basic mafia [DAY 3]

Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2021 12:00 am
by Luckbox Inc
[quote=MacDougall post_id=827350 time=1626234291
read posts
[/quote]
This is like the first time you've interacted with me all game. Makes me a little sad.

Re: basic mafia [DAY 3]

Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2021 12:03 am
by EnderWiggin
Mac humour me, what's your POE

Re: basic mafia [DAY 3]

Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2021 1:46 am
by TonyStarkPrime
ok I'm back

Re: basic mafia [DAY 3]

Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2021 1:46 am
by TonyStarkPrime
literally nothing has happened all day

Re: basic mafia [DAY 3]

Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2021 1:46 am
by TonyStarkPrime
this is like big form dadv

Re: basic mafia [DAY 3]

Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2021 1:52 am
by TonyStarkPrime
mac how do you feel about Alison

Re: basic mafia [DAY 3]

Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2021 1:53 am
by TonyStarkPrime
I bet you feel the same way that i do

Re: basic mafia [DAY 3]

Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2021 2:13 am
by falcon45ca
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Wed Jul 14, 2021 1:46 am literally nothing has happened all day
Wolfy

Re: basic mafia [DAY 3]

Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2021 2:43 am
by falcon45ca
MacDougall wrote: Tue Jul 13, 2021 7:32 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: Tue Jul 13, 2021 7:11 pm
MacDougall wrote: Tue Jul 13, 2021 6:34 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: Tue Jul 13, 2021 6:33 pm
MacDougall wrote: Tue Jul 13, 2021 6:24 pm I want Falcon reads. Dude's been parked on me all day.
Town.
Maybe I am the wolf after all. :ponder:
Eh, Falcon being wrong wouldn't surprise me. Could be that you are tho.
You're that sure Falcon is town?
You're that sure I'm Maf?


You've said before that you find me an easy read as town.

You seem sure I'm Maf, is it because I'm not an easy town find for you? Is my being an easy TR for you usually the basis for your SR?