The Syndicate

How definitive is the meta case against Guillo? (As obviously I can't comment on that)

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 4:51 pm I thought Guill was fine, and I don't have much faith in those voters on him

....DId you read me @DaughterOfOmega

Mungbean wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 4:51 pm How definitive is the meta case against Guillo? (As obviously I can't comment on that)

im a pretty good reader of him, and can see it.

I think he's not really playing in scum meta but I think there's something in how his actual pushes/reads just don't seem that well thought out/followed up, which absent of meta is bad.


I think he's playing a bit more like 3p tbh because he's being quite... 3p-y

DeeZees wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 4:52 pm

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 4:51 pm I thought Guill was fine, and I don't have much faith in those voters on him

....DId you read me @DaughterOfOmega

Not really, I've read your post sparingly throughout the day.

I like Cape and Schiavetto.

There's just the better decision if I dislike killing Guill

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 4:49 pm

Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 4:49 pm Can someone tl,dr me the Guillo case?

Meta

@hollowkatt

(unconvinced then Sabi, I am catching up to see if I can get more. but tx still)

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 4:54 pm

DeeZees wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 4:52 pm

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 4:51 pm I thought Guill was fine, and I don't have much faith in those voters on him

....DId you read me @DaughterOfOmega

Not really, I've read your post sparingly throughout the day.

I like Cape and Schiavetto.

There's just the better decision if I dislike killing Guill

I just...

I literally....

what

Cape90 I can see being wolf

Chelsea seemed fine earlier

ColinIsCool is eh

DaughterOfOmega doesn't strike me as wolf

DeeZees I'm trying to not tunnel again

falcon45ca idk how to read him

Guillotine I agree lacks fire

hollowkatt is meh

IBA seemed towny whenever I saw them posting

Inawordyes sorta dropped off

Le petit poussin still feels underwhelming for Raskolnikov

LordQuas is bleh

Mungbean is alright

nutella her pushes felt weak

pyxxy I'm sorta missing today

risiinq- seemed fine in their catch up posts

Sabiplz still could be wolf but giving her space

Schiavetto seemed better here than last mash where she was wolf

Strawnhenge felt towny in their cases so I think Manny is town

TheFloyd73 I don't remember posting

Valentine I'm kinda flipflopping around

WindwardAway I have no read right now

Creature had 2 votes too.

Valentine had 3.

wtf

Cape90
Guillotine
Le petit poussin
nutella
Sabiplz

are where I'm at rn

DeeZees wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 4:55 pm Creature had 2 votes too.

Valentine had 3.

wtf

I thought Creature was fine

I know very little about Valentine, and have never played with any of the people who are voting them.

Biasedly I like to base the game around the people I have experience with.

Creature wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 4:56 pm Cape90
Guillotine
Le petit poussin
nutella
Sabiplz

are where I'm at rn

2.5/5 similar to me

What about Nutella's pushes?

I've been most in to her reads this game, they seem most thought through

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 4:58 pm

DeeZees wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 4:55 pm Creature had 2 votes too.

Valentine had 3.

wtf

I thought Creature was fine

I know very little about Valentine, and have never played with any of the people who are voting them.

Biasedly I like to base the game around the people I have experience with.

What issue do you have with me then?

This game is lost if you are town and won't do your own thinking/engaging.

Like.

Don't vote if you don't have a clue

as it is, it looks like you don't really care if you are wrong on who you kill. which is wolfy.

Creature wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 4:56 pm Cape90
Guillotine
Le petit poussin
nutella
Sabiplz

3/5 in common ill take it.

Creature wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 4:55 pm Inawordyes sorta dropped off

gonna boost this since i have barely seen the guy after the initial falcon / ina argument and it feels weird.

@Creature how. Much have you read of my iso because I doubt you believe I'm a wolf. You literally saw me in hot fuzz. You think this is the same?

Daughter playstyle reminds me of Neon on the mash which makes me wanna put 7 bullets in them ngl.

Also creature you sr me in the mash when I was town. Just admit you can't read me

Manny wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 5:00 pm Daughter playstyle reminds me of Neon on the mash which makes me wanna put 7 bullets in them ngl.

yh I can't square the idea of whats just happened.

added to scum pile, which is like 7 or so now so can't all be right

Valentine wagon looks god awful to me. Back to beign town or atleast not scum.

Manny wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 5:00 pm Daughter playstyle reminds me of Neon on the mash which makes me wanna put 7 bullets in them ngl.

I can put a shot in you if that's your opinion

DeeZees wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 5:01 pm

Manny wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 5:00 pm Daughter playstyle reminds me of Neon on the mash which makes me wanna put 7 bullets in them ngl.

yh I can't square the idea of whats just happened.

added to scum pile, which is like 7 or so now so can't all be right

:really:

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 5:01 pm I can put a shot in you if that's your opinion

Would not be the first time this week i trade myself for a wolf so ill take yours if you take mine

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 5:01 pm

DeeZees wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 5:01 pm

Manny wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 5:00 pm Daughter playstyle reminds me of Neon on the mash which makes me wanna put 7 bullets in them ngl.

yh I can't square the idea of whats just happened.

added to scum pile, which is like 7 or so now so can't all be right

:really:

she voted me without reading me, over two other players, one of whom she didn't read, to sheep two ppl without analysis on why they voted

I can't see how thats towny (or at least pro town.)

Ppl ignoring my very good points on Schia btw

DeeZees wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 5:03 pm

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 5:01 pm

DeeZees wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 5:01 pm

Manny wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 5:00 pm Daughter playstyle reminds me of Neon on the mash which makes me wanna put 7 bullets in them ngl.

yh I can't square the idea of whats just happened.

added to scum pile, which is like 7 or so now so can't all be right

:really:

she voted me without reading me, over two other players, one of whom she didn't read, to sheep two ppl without analysis on why they voted

I can't see how thats towny (or at least pro town.)

I've been playing this game for a long time, you become surprised at what is towny.

Sometimes you take a step back and just go "oh yeah a scum is never doing this" instead of trying to think "why is town doing this"

i think i take back my earlier comments creature is probably a wolf

LordQuas wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 5:05 pm i think i take back my earlier comments creature is probably a wolf

Has Creature evolved in range at all?

I never tried reading him in the past because his spam would be so annoying.

Manny wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 5:01 pm Valentine wagon looks god awful to me. Back to beign town or atleast not scum.

Yeah? Why are they town? Most of the ISO is either banter, off topic, excuses for not getting in the game etc... There is style, ngl I like reading some posts, but it screams lost wolf to me. or jester yeah.

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 5:05 pm

DeeZees wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 5:03 pm

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 5:01 pm

DeeZees wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 5:01 pm

Manny wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 5:00 pm Daughter playstyle reminds me of Neon on the mash which makes me wanna put 7 bullets in them ngl.

yh I can't square the idea of whats just happened.

added to scum pile, which is like 7 or so now so can't all be right

:really:

she voted me without reading me, over two other players, one of whom she didn't read, to sheep two ppl without analysis on why they voted

I can't see how thats towny (or at least pro town.)

I've been playing this game for a long time, you become surprised at what is towny.

Sometimes you take a step back and just go "oh yeah a scum is never doing this" instead of trying to think "why is town doing this"

I can see why scum does it fwiw

Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 5:06 pm

Manny wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 5:01 pm Valentine wagon looks god awful to me. Back to beign town or atleast not scum.

Yeah? Why are they town? Most of the ISO is either banter, off topic, excuses for not getting in the game etc... There is style, ngl I like reading some posts, but it screams lost wolf to me. or jester yeah.

"it scream jester or lost wolf"

I have never understood how someone reads a player and thinks they are a role like that.

The entire point of lost wolf or Jester would to not actively be read as jester or lost wolf

If someone is acting that way to you, they should just be regular scum

LordQuas wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 5:05 pm i think i take back my earlier comments creature is probably a wolf

I do agree the most recent "preventive" AtE was wolfy. do you have other reasons?

Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 5:06 pm

Manny wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 5:01 pm Valentine wagon looks god awful to me. Back to beign town or atleast not scum.

Yeah? Why are they town? Most of the ISO is either banter, off topic, excuses for not getting in the game etc... There is style, ngl I like reading some posts, but it screams lost wolf to me. or jester yeah.

I vibe a lot with most of her posts prior to the Creature wagon, she feels like she is just going around at her own pace and being genuine/funny which usually causes me to automatically townlock, im less certain after the creature vote but i kinda had some sr on you earlier, the 3p is voteing her and the other vote is also from IBA whom i also SR. All around combined makes me not like the wagon

DeeZees wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 5:03 pm

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 5:01 pm

DeeZees wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 5:01 pm

Manny wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 5:00 pm Daughter playstyle reminds me of Neon on the mash which makes me wanna put 7 bullets in them ngl.

yh I can't square the idea of whats just happened.

added to scum pile, which is like 7 or so now so can't all be right

:really:

she voted me without reading me, over two other players, one of whom she didn't read, to sheep two ppl without analysis on why they voted

I can't see how thats towny (or at least pro town.)

No this part I'm like you know one of those seven is wrong

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 5:09 pm

Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 5:06 pm

Manny wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 5:01 pm Valentine wagon looks god awful to me. Back to beign town or atleast not scum.

Yeah? Why are they town? Most of the ISO is either banter, off topic, excuses for not getting in the game etc... There is style, ngl I like reading some posts, but it screams lost wolf to me. or jester yeah.

"it scream jester or lost wolf"

I have never understood how someone reads a player and thinks they are a role like that.

The entire point of lost wolf or Jester would to not actively be read as jester or lost wolf

If someone is acting that way to you, they should just be regular scum

sorry I didn't mean the actual "lost wolf" role. I meant, they really look like a scum not being able to enter the game, because either overwhelmed by the number of posts, or just inability to shit post cases.

DeeZees wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 5:08 pm I can see why scum does it fwiw

meme above is funny, u get a slight tr read.

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 5:12 pm

DeeZees wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 5:03 pm

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 5:01 pm

DeeZees wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 5:01 pm

Manny wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 5:00 pm Daughter playstyle reminds me of Neon on the mash which makes me wanna put 7 bullets in them ngl.

yh I can't square the idea of whats just happened.

added to scum pile, which is like 7 or so now so can't all be right

:really:

she voted me without reading me, over two other players, one of whom she didn't read, to sheep two ppl without analysis on why they voted

I can't see how thats towny (or at least pro town.)

No this part I'm like you know one of those seven is wrong

yh thats what I say

can't be right.

I know they can't all be right because there aren't that many scum

DeeZees wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 5:13 pm

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 5:12 pm

DeeZees wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 5:03 pm

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 5:01 pm

DeeZees wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 5:01 pm

Manny wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 5:00 pm Daughter playstyle reminds me of Neon on the mash which makes me wanna put 7 bullets in them ngl.

yh I can't square the idea of whats just happened.

added to scum pile, which is like 7 or so now so can't all be right

:really:

she voted me without reading me, over two other players, one of whom she didn't read, to sheep two ppl without analysis on why they voted

I can't see how thats towny (or at least pro town.)

No this part I'm like you know one of those seven is wrong

yh thats what I say

can't be right.

I know they can't all be right because there aren't that many scum

The point I was saying you were wrong about me lol

@LordQuas the read list was something too but I would expect a wolf be more cautious before posting this lol dunno

Moon logic

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 5:14 pm

DeeZees wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 5:13 pm

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 5:12 pm

DeeZees wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 5:03 pm

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 5:01 pm

DeeZees wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 5:01 pm

Manny wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 5:00 pm Daughter playstyle reminds me of Neon on the mash which makes me wanna put 7 bullets in them ngl.

yh I can't square the idea of whats just happened.

added to scum pile, which is like 7 or so now so can't all be right

:really:

she voted me without reading me, over two other players, one of whom she didn't read, to sheep two ppl without analysis on why they voted

I can't see how thats towny (or at least pro town.)

No this part I'm like you know one of those seven is wrong

yh thats what I say

can't be right.

I know they can't all be right because there aren't that many scum

The point I was saying you were wrong about me lol

ha ok im caught up

I'd like you to post reads and stuff again.

just ignore me and my presence

Cool I like DOOM's thinking

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 5:09 pm

Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 5:06 pm

Manny wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 5:01 pm Valentine wagon looks god awful to me. Back to beign town or atleast not scum.

Yeah? Why are they town? Most of the ISO is either banter, off topic, excuses for not getting in the game etc... There is style, ngl I like reading some posts, but it screams lost wolf to me. or jester yeah.

"it scream jester or lost wolf"

I have never understood how someone reads a player and thinks they are a role like that.

The entire point of lost wolf or Jester would to not actively be read as jester or lost wolf

If someone is acting that way to you, they should just be regular scum

Always wondered why someone would think a jester would ever go like "uwu vote me" in-thread.

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 5:00 pm @Creature how. Much have you read of my iso because I doubt you believe I'm a wolf. You literally saw me in hot fuzz. You think this is the same?

I didn't read your ISO but the posts I remember from you seemed directionless. Anyway I think I have a way to read you but that's not happening today.

Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 4:54 pm

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 4:49 pm

Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 4:49 pm Can someone tl,dr me the Guillo case?

Meta

@hollowkatt

(unconvinced then Sabi, I am catching up to see if I can get more. but tx still)

i haven't been here since last night and haven't read anything that has been posted since like 1am my time.
I've found guillo as town is generally speaking chaotic, in your face, and quite loud. Even on syndicate games that I've played with him.

If he's not chaotic and loud and in your face either he's wolfing or he's trying something new. What I haven't seen is any kind of indignation about being a wagon in any form really, and that's usually indicative of town guillo as well.

I wouldn't be sad if he was chopped as I haven't seen fiery loud guillo.

Valentine seems like a fair vote, I'd be curious to hear from the people I town read

I have to vote based on my own reads ultimately and not meta that I'm not privy to.

[VOTE: Creature] aubergine. For persistent and mostly unjustified (or at least oddly exaggerated) defensiveness primarily.

Manny wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 4:59 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 4:56 pm Cape90
Guillotine
Le petit poussin
nutella
Sabiplz

3/5 in common ill take it.

Which?

Manny wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 4:59 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 4:55 pm Inawordyes sorta dropped off

gonna boost this since i have barely seen the guy after the initial falcon / ina argument and it feels weird.

Yeah it bothers me when someone does one noticeable thing but then never shows up again.

Creature wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 5:16 pm Cool I like DOOM's thinking

BTW you never responded to my DM

Stop talking about me in places I don't exist bud

i agree that valentine is a fair vote.

DeeZees wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 4:58 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 4:56 pm Cape90
Guillotine
Le petit poussin
nutella
Sabiplz

are where I'm at rn

2.5/5 similar to me

What about Nutella's pushes?

I've been most in to her reads this game, they seem most thought through

I remember nutella's pushes (especially on me) felt like she didn't even believe them and felt lowkey lolcatty.

I will likely pop back before the deadline but could only really consider switching to Valentine unless there are any major developments.