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Re: [NIGHT 6] Avant-Garde Mafia 2

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 12:02 pm
by DharmaHelper
S~V~S wrote:Aces
DP
Juliets

Are the three people on n=both lists (plus BWT who revealed the secrets, sooo....)

DH, why did you remove JC from your list?

Epig didn't put himself on his own list? Go figure :P

Also I already explained why I removed JC, didn't I? The person she replaced was not very active on nights that Herman was still killing.

Re: [DAY 7] Avant-Garde Mafia 2

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 12:26 pm
by DisgruntledPorcupine
BoatsBoatsBoats wrote:
DisgruntledPorcupine wrote:
BoatsBoatsBoats wrote:Okay, whoever's voted for will die, I'm pretty sure of this. What I'm not sure of is who to vote for.
Why are you sure?
Because it is a very Socky thing to do.
I'm thinking whoever gets the least votes is killed. And if it's a tie, it's randomized between all the people who have the least votes. That sounds crazy enough.

Re: [DAY 7] Avant-Garde Mafia 2

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 12:47 pm
by timmer
That's a good question about boats... has he played MP games before? Would he know what a "Socky thing to do" is?

Re: [DAY 7] Avant-Garde Mafia 2

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 1:14 pm
by timmer
I'm barely following the logic you guys are using in regards to who could Herman, but how is it we have two separate conclusions being drawn? Epi has one list, DH has another.

Re: [DAY 7] Avant-Garde Mafia 2

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 1:19 pm
by Epignosis
DharmaHelper wrote:
Epignosis wrote:Don't forget:

We can now suspect these people of being Herman the Planet Smasher.

AceofSpaces
birdwithteeth11
Boomslang
DisgruntledPorcupine
Dom
Jokreher
juliets

Look at Herman's power: If he receives a single vote, he cannot harm us! Let's make sure all of these people receive at least one vote.
Wrong Epig :P


As the only person on that list to receive a vote Day 6, and since Herman didn't kill Night 6, that makes you Herman.
This is some fantastic reasoning now, isn't it? It fails to consider role blocking or the possibility that juliets was Herman.
DharmaHelper wrote: Epig didn't put himself on his own list? Go figure :P
There's quite a simple explanation for that. ;)

Re: [DAY 7] Avant-Garde Mafia 2

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 1:27 pm
by DharmaHelper
Your list includes people who did not have votes yesterday... I dunno if you get to call out reasoning flaws :P

Re: [DAY 7] Avant-Garde Mafia 2

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 2:49 pm
by birdwithteeth11
I dunno. I mean, I'm willing to consider the possibility that Epig could be Herman, but I'm also willing to consider possibilities such as roles being blocked. Not sure.

Like I said though, I think everyone on his list deserves to be looked at and re-read to some degree. I think that's the best way to narrow it down from people who aren't Herman.

In relation to the current poll though, who are some people you would consider to be trust-worthy at this stage of the game?

Re: [DAY 7] Avant-Garde Mafia 2

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 2:49 pm
by birdwithteeth11
EBWOP: That question was directed at DH.

Re: [DAY 7] Avant-Garde Mafia 2

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 2:59 pm
by DharmaHelper
I don't trust any of you :P

Re: [DAY 7] Avant-Garde Mafia 2

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 3:19 pm
by S~V~S
timmer wrote:That's a good question about boats... has he played MP games before? Would he know what a "Socky thing to do" is?
I am fairly sure he played EMM at 4EW under a different name. Plus I know they are PA friends, so he may have played one of those games, too.

Re: [DAY 7] Avant-Garde Mafia 2

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 3:29 pm
by Dom
So waht do you think this lynch is about, SVS?

Re: [DAY 7] Avant-Garde Mafia 2

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 4:16 pm
by birdwithteeth11
DharmaHelper wrote:I don't trust any of you :P
Thanks. Btw did you know I have a bridge to sell you? ;)

Seriously though, outside of SVS, rey, and dom I've felt a bit off about everyone in this game at some point. I would say those are the top 3 people I trust and likely one of those 3 will be getting my vote.

Also I am going with our wonderful host to a concert tonight in Columbus (thankfully only about a 2 hour drive) so I may be able to respond once or twice tonight, but if it's a lengthy response that probably won't come until tomorrow morning. Just giving you all the heads up.

Re: [DAY 7] Avant-Garde Mafia 2

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 5:07 pm
by reywaS
Tennessee>Kentucky

Re: [DAY 7] Avant-Garde Mafia 2

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 7:02 pm
by insertnamehere
Wait, is the person with the most votes out? Or maybe the least votes? Gaaah, this lynch is screwing with me!

Re: [DAY 7] Avant-Garde Mafia 2

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 7:16 pm
by S~V~S
Dom wrote:So waht do you think this lynch is about, SVS?
Well, I am not sure. I don't think it's a lynch, though. I think, or maybe have high hopes, that we picked the civvie portal, or at least a friendly one? The post said this:
As the players stepped into Portal 2 and it closed behind them, they were amazed by the incredibly vibrant and soothing garden that awaited them. It was truly nothing short of perfection. A voice came from above: "Greetings! Please nominate the one among you who is good at heart and you will be rewarded."
I don't know if the person chosen will be rewarded, or if everyone who votes for a civvie will be rewarded, but I think it is important that we really pick someone we think may be good.

Gotta finish catching up, I started from the bottom, and saw this question~ bbl.

Re: [DAY 7] Avant-Garde Mafia 2

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 7:20 pm
by Epignosis
Who can say if this poll is a lynch at all?

Consistent unpredictability in an Avant-garde game implies that unpredictability is normalcy.

Re: [DAY 7] Avant-Garde Mafia 2

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 7:29 pm
by S~V~S
We can't say, i was asked my opinion, I gave it :)

I think it is not a lynch~ while Sockalex can be expected to be Avant in this game, I don;t expect him to be mean, and making up paint a target on someone we think is good, and then killing them, is not "Avant" IMO.

Certainly, i could be wrong (look Flyin Highs book, coming out soon, "All the Times SVS Was Wrong"~ it's a big book with tiny print and no pictures). But i think he said something in the post, and that is what will happen.

Re: [DAY 7] Avant-Garde Mafia 2

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 7:30 pm
by S~V~S
Holy shit, that looks like I wrote it on my phone :blush:

the worst one is "making US paint a target", not "making up"

Re: [DAY 7] Avant-Garde Mafia 2

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 7:33 pm
by Epignosis
S~V~S wrote:We can't say, i was asked my opinion, I gave it :)
I was responding to the person above you. You actually ninja'd me, and I couldn't be bothered to change my post (cooking and all).
S~V~S wrote: Certainly, i could be wrong (look Flyin Highs book, coming out soon, "All the Times SVS Was Wrong"~ it's a big book with tiny print and no pictures). But i think he said something in the post, and that is what will happen.
:haha:

Re: [DAY 7] Avant-Garde Mafia 2

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 7:55 pm
by insertnamehere
No offense, but I don't trust any of you people.

Re: [DAY 7] Avant-Garde Mafia 2

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 8:01 pm
by S~V~S
Feelings mutual, homes~

Re: [DAY 7] Avant-Garde Mafia 2

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 8:49 pm
by Epignosis
Saw the first episode a long time ago when it first came on, but wasn't into it. But now we have Netflix, so we're starting Lost, since so many were enamored with it.

Re: [DAY 7] Avant-Garde Mafia 2

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 9:00 pm
by S~V~S
Give it a chance~ it is so worth it :)

Re: [DAY 7] Avant-Garde Mafia 2

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 9:38 pm
by Mr. Droopy Cash
Fellow Voters,

I'm willing to accept all of your votes! It says trust-worthy which it's been made public I'm a civvie. Also, if it backfires and it actually does get me lynched, I haven't really had time to participate lately anyway so it's no big deal. I apologize to everyone who is still participating fully for my lack of attention. I'm going to go ahead and vote. Reading through the names, everyone makes me nervous. I guess I'll vote Illy since Illy was brought back too. I would self-vote but I'm not sure how that's looked upon. I don't want to seem too egotistical...although I am!

With love,
Mr. Droopy Cash.

Re: [DAY 7] Avant-Garde Mafia 2

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 9:41 pm
by S~V~S
A few people said they thought you came back from the Pet Sematery, though. Although you are confirmed before that...

Re: [DAY 7] Avant-Garde Mafia 2

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 9:52 pm
by DharmaHelper
Not voting for Droopy this "lynch" as he's probably recruited.

Re: [DAY 7] Avant-Garde Mafia 2

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 9:55 pm
by BoatsBoatsBoats
Self-voting may work, but it almost seems too easy. Bringing up that those who vote or fail to vote for X will be killed brings up an interesting point.That being said, voting Droopy seems a good choice since it was revealed that he was actually a civ during the lynch/resurrection.

(I've played EMM and Avant Mafia 1)

Re: [DAY 7] Avant-Garde Mafia 2

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 9:57 pm
by DharmaHelper
Except he's probably recruited.

Re: [DAY 7] Avant-Garde Mafia 2

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 10:00 pm
by S~V~S
Why probably? Possibly, yes. "Probably" is pushing it a bit, IMO.

Re: [DAY 7] Avant-Garde Mafia 2

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 10:12 pm
by DharmaHelper
Probably.

Re: [DAY 7] Avant-Garde Mafia 2

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 10:16 pm
by BoatsBoatsBoats
DharmaHelper wrote:Probably.
Explaininations would be helpful :shrug:

Re: [DAY 7] Avant-Garde Mafia 2

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 10:16 pm
by S~V~S
Right, so its subjective.

Re: [DAY 7] Avant-Garde Mafia 2

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 10:17 pm
by BoatsBoatsBoats
S~V~S wrote:Right, so its subjective.
He could have another BS chart. I'd like to see that, even though I don't agree with what he's saying.

Re: [DAY 7] Avant-Garde Mafia 2

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 10:27 pm
by DharmaHelper
BoatsBoatsBoats wrote:
S~V~S wrote:Right, so its subjective.
He could have another BS chart. I'd like to see that, even though I don't agree with what he's saying.

:hug:

Re: [DAY 7] Avant-Garde Mafia 2

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 10:31 pm
by S~V~S
Um, what?

DH, you were right about LT, but srsly, you need to at least try to explain instead of getting all *sigh* when people want explanations. Especially with a lor of people who don't know you.

Re: [DAY 7] Avant-Garde Mafia 2

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 10:38 pm
by DharmaHelper
S~V~S wrote:Um, what?

DH, you were right about LT, but srsly, you need to at least try to explain instead of getting all *sigh* when people want explanations. Especially with a lor of people who don't know you.

I was giving boats a friendly hug, not sighing that nobody is listening. You are listening which I appreciate. I think Droopy's been recruited either by Ziltoid or by way of Zappa/Resident combo.

Re: [DAY 7] Avant-Garde Mafia 2

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 10:41 pm
by Mr. Droopy Cash
You all thought I was bad because of the way I was acting and I flipped civvie. I continue to act the same way and now I'm recruited...I don't understand any of your logic. I guess there's a possibility...I haven't read into any of the role info that's been revealed but hopefully I'll get a little bit of time to play catch up this weekend, assuming I haven't been brutally murdered.

Re: [DAY 7] Avant-Garde Mafia 2

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 10:45 pm
by S~V~S
I would like to know WHY you think that. I respect your judgment and trust your gut when civ. If you can show me what you see, I would like that.

Re: [DAY 7] Avant-Garde Mafia 2

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 10:49 pm
by DharmaHelper
Ziltoid can search for a recruit, and who better to recruit than a confirmed civ? So thats one possibility. Possibility two is that either A) Frank Zappa got BTSC with Droopy and BTSC with the residents, recruiting Droopy by proxy, or B) Beefheart's secret is similar to Zappas and Beefheart is recruited by himself.

Re: [DAY 7] Avant-Garde Mafia 2

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 10:50 pm
by Illyria
Mr. Droopy Cash wrote:Fellow Voters,

I'm willing to accept all of your votes! It says trust-worthy which it's been made public I'm a civvie. Also, if it backfires and it actually does get me lynched, I haven't really had time to participate lately anyway so it's no big deal. I apologize to everyone who is still participating fully for my lack of attention. I'm going to go ahead and vote. Reading through the names, everyone makes me nervous. I guess I'll vote Illy since Illy was brought back too. I would self-vote but I'm not sure how that's looked upon. I don't want to seem too egotistical...although I am!

With love,
Mr. Droopy Cash.
Wow, um.. Thanks? I honestly do not know how to react as I can't figure out what the dang poll means. :|

I don't trust anyone, I had SVS, DP, DH, and for the first time EVER INH in a "they are not scaring me right now" column before this poll but trust them? Bitch please. :haha:

Re: [DAY 7] Avant-Garde Mafia 2

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 10:51 pm
by BoatsBoatsBoats
DharmaHelper wrote:Ziltoid can search for a recruit, and who better to recruit than a confirmed civ? So thats one possibility. Possibility two is that either A) Frank Zappa got BTSC with Droopy and BTSC with the residents, recruiting Droopy by proxy, or B) Beefheart's secret is similar to Zappas and Beefheart is recruited by himself.
Thank you for actually explaining. Yes, I can see him being a recruit, but I'm still not sure either way.

Re: [DAY 7] Avant-Garde Mafia 2

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 10:56 pm
by S~V~S
DharmaHelper wrote:Ziltoid can search for a recruit, and who better to recruit than a confirmed civ? So thats one possibility. Possibility two is that either A) Frank Zappa got BTSC with Droopy and BTSC with the residents, recruiting Droopy by proxy, or B) Beefheart's secret is similar to Zappas and Beefheart is recruited by himself.
i agree that it is possible, anything is possible. But probable? But i agree he would be an attractive target.

Re: [DAY 7] Avant-Garde Mafia 2

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 10:57 pm
by DharmaHelper
I stick by "probable"

Re: [DAY 7] Avant-Garde Mafia 2

Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 4:00 pm
by birdwithteeth11
I think out of the 3 people I mentioned, the one that seems the most attractive to me is SVS, so she is getting my vote.

Votes SVS

Re: [DAY 7] Avant-Garde Mafia 2

Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 4:24 pm
by DharmaHelper
It is so quiet.

Re: [DAY 7] Avant-Garde Mafia 2

Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 6:01 pm
by Tangrowth
birdwithteeth11 wrote:[
Also I am going with our wonderful host to a concert tonight in Columbus (thankfully only about a 2 hour drive) so I may be able to respond once or twice tonight, but if it's a lengthy response that probably won't come until tomorrow morning. Just giving you all the heads up.
Was awesome!!! :drums:



reywaS wrote:Tennessee>Kentucky
No way!



Epignosis wrote:Saw the first episode a long time ago when it first came on, but wasn't into it. But now we have Netflix, so we're starting Lost, since so many were enamored with it.
It is definitely worth watching.

Re: [DAY 7] Avant-Garde Mafia 2

Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 7:18 pm
by BoatsBoatsBoats
birdwithteeth11 wrote:I think out of the 3 people I mentioned, the one that seems the most attractive to me is SVS, so she is getting my vote.

Votes SVS
Voting SVS as well. She hasn't come up with any insane theories, so that's good in my book.

Re: [DAY 7] Avant-Garde Mafia 2

Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 7:19 pm
by S~V~S
I am not sure who i am gonna vote for, maybe Illy, she has been quiet siunce she came back, but we all thought her civ enough to rezz her, so :shrug:

Re: [DAY 7] Avant-Garde Mafia 2

Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 7:31 pm
by Epignosis
BoatsBoatsBoats wrote:
birdwithteeth11 wrote:I think out of the 3 people I mentioned, the one that seems the most attractive to me is SVS, so she is getting my vote.

Votes SVS
Voting SVS as well. She hasn't come up with any insane theories, so that's good in my book.
My theories are not insane. :ohyeah:

But I'm going to vote for S~V~S also (and hope against hope we do not rue our decision).

Re: [DAY 7] Avant-Garde Mafia 2

Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 7:37 pm
by S~V~S
I hope we do not rue it as well :)