The Syndicate

LoRab wrote:That sounds like the civ DF I expect. So, he's moved down my list, as well.

Daisy, on the other hand:

Spacedaisy wrote:I'm having internet issues apparently. Anyway, I have seen my name tossed around a lot today and that's cool, I can't blame you all because I have been shit this game. Vote me if you like but I can tell you it is guaranteed to be a complete waste of your time and a lynch no matter who you are. If you put my gameplay all together with what I've said recently I'm sure you can figure out why. But do what you like.

It seems as if you're hinting at Erin. Because no other role would be a complete waste of time and a lynch no matter who you are. And Erin was lynched day 2. So...am I missing something?

And I think, if you were implying BWT was a seemer, that you'd have said something or implied something when he flipped as your role.

So, in short, I'm not sure I believe you.

Also, I feel bad suspecting Daisy in this game in particular, since The Office game back in the day (before I was LoRab, even) on LP was Daisy's first game, I believe, and we had wonderfully lovely civ BTSC with all of the Warehouse Workers (TH was there, too, of other players in this game)--until fucking evil bastard (FEB) DD frigging killed me. Ah, memories. But, really, it was a fun game, and I feel bad suspecting you in a game of the same theme--does that make any sense?

Spacedaisy wrote:I'm having internet issues apparently. Anyway, I have seen my name tossed around a lot today and that's cool, I can't blame you all because I have been shit this game. Vote me if you like but I can tell you it is guaranteed to be a complete waste of your time and a lynch no matter who you are. If you put my gameplay all together with what I've said recently I'm sure you can figure out why. But do what you like.

Scotty wrote:Oooo what if I just went crazy and voted TH. How crazy would that be?

Am I crazy? I could be. Someone throw me a bone here.

Epignosis wrote:

Scotty wrote:Oooo what if I just went crazy and voted TH. How crazy would that be?

Am I crazy? I could be. Someone throw me a bone here.

I'd advise against that. TH doesn't know what the hell he's doing. He's a complete fool. Like, he couldn't tell you if Christopher Lloyd is hot.

Ask him.

Hey TH, is Chrisopher Lloyd hot? Not "Would you do him?" but is he hot?

Scotty wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

Scotty wrote:Oooo what if I just went crazy and voted TH. How crazy would that be?

Am I crazy? I could be. Someone throw me a bone here.

I'd advise against that. TH doesn't know what the hell he's doing. He's a complete fool. Like, he couldn't tell you if Christopher Lloyd is hot.

Ask him.

Hey TH, is Chrisopher Lloyd hot? Not "Would you do him?" but is he hot?

What if I vote you. Is that a bad idea?

Why or why not?

Remember to fill in your bubble completely or it won't be read.

Scotty wrote:

Spacedaisy wrote:I'm having internet issues apparently. Anyway, I have seen my name tossed around a lot today and that's cool, I can't blame you all because I have been shit this game. Vote me if you like but I can tell you it is guaranteed to be a complete waste of your time and a lynch no matter who you are. If you put my gameplay all together with what I've said recently I'm sure you can figure out why. But do what you like.

Well you make me nervous. If you are actually who I think you are claiming to be, then you are not a prudent lynch. But that you are using it as a crutch doesn't look good.

In any case, I'm not sure the next best lynch candidate. I'm gonna plop it on DFaraday for now.

But someone can certainly change my mind on another. I'm kinda floundering here for the best candidate.

Epignosis wrote:

Scotty wrote:Oooo what if I just went crazy and voted TH. How crazy would that be?

Am I crazy? I could be. Someone throw me a bone here.

I'd advise against that. TH doesn't know what the hell he's doing. He's a complete fool. Like, he couldn't tell you if Christopher Lloyd is hot.

Ask him.

Hey TH, is Chrisopher Lloyd hot? Not "Would you do him?" but is he hot?

Epignosis wrote:

Scotty wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

Scotty wrote:Oooo what if I just went crazy and voted TH. How crazy would that be?

Am I crazy? I could be. Someone throw me a bone here.

I'd advise against that. TH doesn't know what the hell he's doing. He's a complete fool. Like, he couldn't tell you if Christopher Lloyd is hot.

Ask him.

Hey TH, is Chrisopher Lloyd hot? Not "Would you do him?" but is he hot?

What if I vote you. Is that a bad idea?

Why or why not?

Remember to fill in your bubble completely or it won't be read.

How about you tell me your current opinion on INH? You called him good.

Turnip Head wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

Scotty wrote:Oooo what if I just went crazy and voted TH. How crazy would that be?

Am I crazy? I could be. Someone throw me a bone here.

I'd advise against that. TH doesn't know what the hell he's doing. He's a complete fool. Like, he couldn't tell you if Christopher Lloyd is hot.

Ask him.

Hey TH, is Chrisopher Lloyd hot? Not "Would you do him?" but is he hot?

Great Scott.

Scotty wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

Scotty wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

Scotty wrote:Oooo what if I just went crazy and voted TH. How crazy would that be?

Am I crazy? I could be. Someone throw me a bone here.

I'd advise against that. TH doesn't know what the hell he's doing. He's a complete fool. Like, he couldn't tell you if Christopher Lloyd is hot.

Ask him.

Hey TH, is Chrisopher Lloyd hot? Not "Would you do him?" but is he hot?

What if I vote you. Is that a bad idea?

Why or why not?

Remember to fill in your bubble completely or it won't be read.

How about you tell me your current opinion on INH? You called him good.

I think you answered your own question. Do you think he is bad?

timmer wrote:

Enrique wrote:

Scotty wrote:

Enrique wrote:

Scotty wrote:I would also suspect that Spacedaisy was forced to vote Drumbeats on top of bea voting Sorsha and espers voting serge. In case anyone is counting.


In reading back through the votes from yesterday, here's some notes:
Drumbeats looks slightly better.
espers looks slightly worse.
Turnip Head looks worse.
Epi looks slightly better.
Enrique looks slightly worse.
Timmer looks slightly better.

I'm not sure how those compare with the GTH reads from last night.

Everyone else is pretty much in limbo. I have a few people I trust more than others that I don't feel like painting at this time.

I would acknowledge that I wouldn't mind my own office, but im not actively campaigning.

Didn't Drumbeats vote the exact same way as TH... three times last night?

Yes? Wouldnt you like to respond to my criticisms of your vote?

Okay. I think INH is bad.

Hallelu!

timmer wrote:I'm not voting INH today I've decided that my gut is not based on enough at this stage.

Turnip Head wrote:Scotty to be honest I'm as lost as you are. I think I'm gonna take a shot in the dark and vote for espers because fuck it. Everyone seems so genuine to me at this point, I don't know who to not trust.

Turnip Head wrote:

DrumBeats wrote:Where do both of you stand on espers?

If we're going down that road I'd rather lynch SpaceDaisy.

Scotty wrote:That little blowup by INH I read as one of two ways: a frustrated civ with a diatribe against "The Man", so to speak; or the voice of a Mafia spinster that a lot of us are accurately feeling, using his question curse as a crutch.

I want to choose to believe he's the former in this situation, and I don't for the life of me know if I can delve into him as a lunch candidate today. I don't know if his vote history is all that demonstrative as a key suspicion.

Spacedaisy and espers--

I want to hear from Spacedaisy. The longer she sits in silence the more I eye her.

I'm liking these recent contributions from espers, but I don't know if it's just a casual effort on his part to appear a part of things again.

Both of them have missed votes, but a lot of espers' votes in particular have been most likely Merideth-enforced (if she is still alive), so who the hell knows what he's really thinking.

Spacedaisy recently was the tail end of the splints train, and was not forced. So she at least had a conscience in her vote, though it also is most unhelpful, since she had no real qualms that I can see coming before the vote.

DrumBeats wrote:

Turnip Head wrote:Scotty to be honest I'm as lost as you are. I think I'm gonna take a shot in the dark and vote for espers because fuck it. Everyone seems so genuine to me at this point, I don't know who to not trust.

What has changed since:

Turnip Head wrote:

DrumBeats wrote:Where do both of you stand on espers?

If we're going down that road I'd rather lynch SpaceDaisy.

Turnip Head wrote:Everyone seems so genuine to me at this point, I don't know who to not trust.

DrumBeats wrote:FS said that his vote on Day 4 was not forced, meaning Meredith is likely no longer in play.

Turnip Head wrote:Faraday is off my list. No way he's bad after those last two posts.

I haven't actually given bea a proper read through, I tend to always assume she's good. Life is easier that way.

fingersplints wrote:

DrumBeats wrote:

fingersplints wrote:

DFaraday wrote:

fingersplints wrote:

DFaraday wrote:I'm *voting BWT*. He's the worst-looking of the 3 I was looking at (although DB is also giving me pause), and I see no reason for leetic to be lynched.

I don't think this vote looks great for him either.

Can you elaborate?

When Person A says they are voting Person B or C and D, and then person B comes back as a civvie... It looks like Person A could be saving B or C.
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How do you think it looks when Person A never really opens themself up to take responsibility for a mislynch until day 5, such as the following voting record? Keep in mind this person never missed a night vote.

D1: None
D2: leetic (Meredithed)
D3: None
D4: Matt (Maybe Meredithed)
D5: Serge

Sorry I've been out, I've had a busy last few days. I'm going to have to get off again soon, but I'll be back by EoD and my time is going to be back to normal after that.

d3 missed vote was not my fault. So yea I missed one vote. how am I not taking responsibility? I was wrong about Matt which I acknowledged here:

fingersplints wrote:Damn. That sucks. RIP Matt. At least now I know and can move on.

DrumBeats wrote:

Turnip Head wrote:Faraday is off my list. No way he's bad after those last two posts.

I haven't actually given bea a proper read through, I tend to always assume she's good. Life is easier that way.

You keep clearing people based off of nothing and I don't get it.

Turnip Head wrote:Also I think we're gonna lose, and if that's the case I'd rather lose to anyone but espers. Nothing against him personally, but he has 12 posts.

DrumBeats wrote:

Turnip Head wrote:Also I think we're gonna lose, and if that's the case I'd rather lose to anyone but espers. Nothing against him personally, but he has 12 posts.

I want to lynch one of the inactives today, because we go into a MYLO or LYLO situation, I don't want to have to rely on their activity. However, I don't believe your flip from SD to espers is genuine. What made you stop suspecting Daisy?

espers wrote:

DrumBeats wrote: The post itself feels fine to me, but again, the timing of all of your stuff just throws me off. You don't post until I say I'm skeptical of your activity, and then you post three hours later. You clearly have been keeping up enough to catch FingerSplints crumbing, but you have barely contributed to the thread. You hadn't even posted today until I brought it up. It feels like you're strategically laying low and lurking.

I mean, you're correct that i've been following along with the thread and contributing where I'm engaged (or, in the splints case, where something really notable crops up). I can't really deny this. There's no agenda behind it, however. It's kind of a chore when you post stuff and people just blatantly ignore you. Like, my responses to your iso just sat there for days, no one acknowledged them until i brought them back up. There's enough content there that directly pertinent to enough people that you'd think at least someone would want to engage it.

I basically feel like I don't know how to influence the course of the thread, so why bother? that's kind of a shitty attitude i know, but i don't see what recourse i have.

espers wrote:Voted timmer so i don't forget.

Here's one thing: DrumBeats and Turnip Head, what happened to your LoRab suspicions? I don't like how they sorta just dissipated.

Epignosis wrote:

timmer wrote:

Enrique wrote:

Scotty wrote:

Enrique wrote:

Scotty wrote:I would also suspect that Spacedaisy was forced to vote Drumbeats on top of bea voting Sorsha and espers voting serge. In case anyone is counting.


In reading back through the votes from yesterday, here's some notes:
Drumbeats looks slightly better.
espers looks slightly worse.
Turnip Head looks worse.
Epi looks slightly better.
Enrique looks slightly worse.
Timmer looks slightly better.

I'm not sure how those compare with the GTH reads from last night.

Everyone else is pretty much in limbo. I have a few people I trust more than others that I don't feel like painting at this time.

I would acknowledge that I wouldn't mind my own office, but im not actively campaigning.

Didn't Drumbeats vote the exact same way as TH... three times last night?

Yes? Wouldnt you like to respond to my criticisms of your vote?

Okay. I think INH is bad.

Hallelu!

timmer wrote:I'm not voting INH today I've decided that my gut is not based on enough at this stage.

That's a major turnaround, timmer. Can you explain what brought it about?

Turnip Head wrote:Why don't you think it's genuine? What sort of ulterior motive would I have?

insertnamehere wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

timmer wrote:

Enrique wrote:

Scotty wrote:

Enrique wrote:

Scotty wrote:I would also suspect that Spacedaisy was forced to vote Drumbeats on top of bea voting Sorsha and espers voting serge. In case anyone is counting.


In reading back through the votes from yesterday, here's some notes:
Drumbeats looks slightly better.
espers looks slightly worse.
Turnip Head looks worse.
Epi looks slightly better.
Enrique looks slightly worse.
Timmer looks slightly better.

I'm not sure how those compare with the GTH reads from last night.

Everyone else is pretty much in limbo. I have a few people I trust more than others that I don't feel like painting at this time.

I would acknowledge that I wouldn't mind my own office, but im not actively campaigning.

Didn't Drumbeats vote the exact same way as TH... three times last night?

Yes? Wouldnt you like to respond to my criticisms of your vote?

Okay. I think INH is bad.

Hallelu!

timmer wrote:I'm not voting INH today I've decided that my gut is not based on enough at this stage.

That's a major turnaround, timmer. Can you explain what brought it about?

Nice complete and utter dodge of everything I said, okay?

DrumBeats wrote:

Turnip Head wrote:Why don't you think it's genuine? What sort of ulterior motive would I have?

Because, though I think DFaraday is town, I see nothing in those two posts to clear him. I see nothing to clear Spacedaisy. I saw nothing to clear SVS like you did.

timmer wrote:Epig is just that is still lingering from day 1 and there is nothing much to it. I don't have a lot of better ideas but my blinders re INH have likely held my game back

timmer wrote:Thinking of the people with votes. TH, can you remind me of whether you knew there was a silencer when you were calling out lorab?

timmer wrote:TH, where are you thinking? I've got guests, I may need to just look at the final lynch trains and decide which one seems most trustworthy

Scotty wrote:OK look. If someone can explain away why SD shouldn't be killed based on how she has played and what she has hinted at, I'll move my vote. BUT a Mafia member posing as an indie isn't too outlandish

DrumBeats wrote:

Scotty wrote:OK look. If someone can explain away why SD shouldn't be killed based on how she has played and what she has hinted at, I'll move my vote. BUT a Mafia member posing as an indie isn't too outlandish

That's the thing, when I look at it, I'm 90% sure SD is trying to soft indy. Worst case scenario we lose somebody who isn't a number for us and could potentially scumside in a MYLO or LYLO situation. Best case we get a mafia. It just seems like the best option imo. Voting Spacedaisy.

@ linki TH - agreed lmao. This is the first game I've been this deep into and had such a little clue of what's going on.

Scotty wrote:

DrumBeats wrote:

Scotty wrote:OK look. If someone can explain away why SD shouldn't be killed based on how she has played and what she has hinted at, I'll move my vote. BUT a Mafia member posing as an indie isn't too outlandish

That's the thing, when I look at it, I'm 90% sure SD is trying to soft indy. Worst case scenario we lose somebody who isn't a number for us and could potentially scumside in a MYLO or LYLO situation. Best case we get a mafia. It just seems like the best option imo. Voting Spacedaisy.

@ linki TH - agreed lmao. This is the first game I've been this deep into and had such a little clue of what's going on.

You realize that JJJ hard claimed indie, and we can not be so sure that was the case.
A Mafia claiming indie is the safest thing to do when you can win with anyone.