Re: MU Season 6 Scrimmage [Day 4]
Posted: Tue May 07, 2019 7:36 pm
Also, who did nutella replace?
Murder, Mayhem, and Mafia
https://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/
Doesnt do you any good to be angry now. Gemma didnt defend herself, she was gonna sub out so her action most likely wasnt gonna be used anyway, she didnt have any readsOwner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2019 7:34 pm Nova targeted RDW last night.
---I'm kind of pissed; you guys lynched the Night 3 town doctor.
Tsaiah
Idk if you know who like Robdp### is but I’ve seen him do this beforeJaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2019 7:36 pm People who know me have seen this before. The newcomers may not know what the hell this stuff means though, so a brief explanation as I begin:
I'm going to be looking into every two-way interaction among living players included in the above chart. I had to drop a couple of players, because the workload becomes too immense otherwise. As of this moment my top civilian reads are Luxurious and Owner. As such I have dropped them. Anyone who feels they demand critical assessment via this method: I encourage you to get busy and make that happen.
I'm going to fill in the chart with colors to indicate whether I believe the two players are compatible as mafia teammates. The standard rainbow shit applies. Green good. Red bad.
Now THAT is interesting
Maybe maybe but he did this when he was town in my champs game two years ago. So that’s a good look for youJaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2019 7:38 pmI don't know who that is, but they've definitely stolen my moves.
I’m trying to remember the details of their feud but it’s not coming to me.
I have some amount of "tinfoil" suspicion of Jay.
>probablyOwner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2019 7:43 pmProbably paranoia, I kind of forgot how he pushed on Ultra.
oops ebwop hopefully fixed
@bold that's cause I wasn't. For the past DPs I've been wanting to lynch the players I want and you guys are ignoring me. DDL? Townread by like everyone. I suggest Jessie and RDW but nobody really cares about those two or want stuff to do with them. Also Gemma became a null read once I found out about how role claims don't mean much and I only started doubting the lynch against her late in the DP. Wasn't much for me to do. Not to mention the fact that almost everyone was for her lynch, no stopping that. We'll see what happens this DP.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2019 7:22 pmI'm not pleased. You stood against the Gemma lynch, and when asked for alternatives you provided the epitome of player salad. I don't get the impression that you were making a real effort to lynch someone other than Gemma. If we follow to your suggested alternative, we have a buffet to choose from and no consolidation.
If you had full control over the next lynch and had to decide right this instant: who dies?Dragomir wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2019 8:05 pm @bold that's cause I wasn't. For the past DPs I've been wanting to lynch the players I want and you guys are ignoring me. DDL? Townread by like everyone. I suggest Jessie and RDW but nobody really cares about those two or want stuff to do with them. Also Gemma became a null read once I found out about how role claims don't mean much and I only started doubting the lynch against her late in the DP. Wasn't much for me to do. Not to mention the fact that almost everyone was for her lynch, no stopping that. We'll see what happens this DP.
I don't care if you have a buffet to choose from, those were and still are who I wanna lynch. Since I'm scum reading 4 ppl and there's only 3 scums left, I'll have to remove someone, I might go with Owner but we'll see... who did Nutella sub in for again?
Oh I was trying to give speed a slightly lighter orange bc my scumread of him is not quite as strong as drago but I'm on mobile so it's kinda hard to get the colors quite right
Why does Nutella sub matter hereDragomir wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2019 8:05 pm@bold that's cause I wasn't. For the past DPs I've been wanting to lynch the players I want and you guys are ignoring me. DDL? Townread by like everyone. I suggest Jessie and RDW but nobody really cares about those two or want stuff to do with them. Also Gemma became a null read once I found out about how role claims don't mean much and I only started doubting the lynch against her late in the DP. Wasn't much for me to do. Not to mention the fact that almost everyone was for her lynch, no stopping that. We'll see what happens this DP.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2019 7:22 pmI'm not pleased. You stood against the Gemma lynch, and when asked for alternatives you provided the epitome of player salad. I don't get the impression that you were making a real effort to lynch someone other than Gemma. If we follow to your suggested alternative, we have a buffet to choose from and no consolidation.
I don't care if you have a buffet to choose from, those were and still are who I wanna lynch. Since I'm scum reading 4 ppl and there's only 3 scums left, I'll have to remove someone, I might go with Owner but we'll see... who did Nutella sub in for again?
LmaoDragomir wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2019 8:07 pmThere was zero implication that there was a pressure vote in that post.
I'll go quote it.
Are you trying to imply that Gemma being town is something we should have known? Because it seems like you're trying to say that we shouldn't have done that.Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2019 7:34 pm Nova targeted RDW last night.
---I'm kind of pissed; you guys lynched the Night 3 town doctor.
Ah gotcha that makes sense.nutella wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2019 8:08 pmOh I was trying to give speed a slightly lighter orange bc my scumread of him is not quite as strong as drago but I'm on mobile so it's kinda hard to get the colors quite right
Elaborate further please. Did you have a feeling that he was scum and decided to go after him?Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2019 7:43 pmProbably paranoia, I kind of forgot how he pushed on Ultra.
oops ebwop hopefully fixed
You came in today with a “HA I WAS RIGHT” type of response to Gemma’s flip. You did know she was town. You argued against her lynch last day phase.Dragomir wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2019 8:10 pmAre you trying to imply that Gemma being town is something we should have known? Because it seems like you're trying to say that we shouldn't have done that.Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2019 7:34 pm Nova targeted RDW last night.
---I'm kind of pissed; you guys lynched the Night 3 town doctor.
Bc I haven't given enough attention to speed on his own, I need to iso him next, it was just based on a couple things I saw. Plus I often incorrectly scumread speed as he is sure to point out as soon as he gets hereLuxurious wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2019 8:11 pmAh gotcha that makes sense.nutella wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2019 8:08 pmOh I was trying to give speed a slightly lighter orange bc my scumread of him is not quite as strong as drago but I'm on mobile so it's kinda hard to get the colors quite right
Thought: you said earlier they might be teamed? If i got that right then why is Speed less than Dragomir
You seriously decided to go back and read our interactions to only arise to the most obvious thing in the game? Didn't need to do this.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2019 7:54 pm Do Dragomir and DDL make sense as mafia teammates?
Dragomir:
~ Dragomir's suspicion starts here - Drago has observed an apparent contradiction and is hounding DDL for it.
~ 4-point case against DDL - I do get the impression that for better or for worse, Drago is genuinely pursuing a lynch of DDL. This isn't for show. Expanded
~ Drago suspects DDL by way of Ultra - He suggested Ultra was guilty of hypocrisy and voiced that as an additional motivator for suspicion on DDL. Every moment is distinctly negative into Day 2. Reiterated | Again | Again, now in a grouping of suspects
~ I won't reference every relevant post here. It's the constant narrative of Dragomir's posts. You get the point; it has not ceased through the present.
Dragon D. Luffy:
~ DDL is incredulous in response to Drago's early suspicions.
~ There's a little shade here regarding Drago's stance on lynching/not lynching DDL.
~ Vote - The suspicion was mutual by Day 2. Again
~ DDL calls Dragomir "lynchbait" - The suspicion is less emphatic here if at all present. Reasserted via nova's read | Good GTH
~~~
Conclusion: There's little ambiguity in the Dragomir ---> DDL direction here, such that I believe Drago has truly been pursuing a lynch of DDL (and would follow through given the chance). Don't look like mafia teammates.
Separately.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2019 8:05 pmDo you view these players as suspects separately from one another, or are you proposing a team?
DDLJaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2019 8:07 pmIf you had full control over the next lynch and had to decide right this instant: who dies?Dragomir wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2019 8:05 pm @bold that's cause I wasn't. For the past DPs I've been wanting to lynch the players I want and you guys are ignoring me. DDL? Townread by like everyone. I suggest Jessie and RDW but nobody really cares about those two or want stuff to do with them. Also Gemma became a null read once I found out about how role claims don't mean much and I only started doubting the lynch against her late in the DP. Wasn't much for me to do. Not to mention the fact that almost everyone was for her lynch, no stopping that. We'll see what happens this DP.
I don't care if you have a buffet to choose from, those were and still are who I wanna lynch. Since I'm scum reading 4 ppl and there's only 3 scums left, I'll have to remove someone, I might go with Owner but we'll see... who did Nutella sub in for again?
Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2019 7:43 pmProbably paranoia, I kind of forgot how he pushed on Ultra.
oops ebwop hopefully fixed
I thought she might have subbed for Jessie.Luxurious wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2019 8:09 pmWhy does Nutella sub matter hereDragomir wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2019 8:05 pm@bold that's cause I wasn't. For the past DPs I've been wanting to lynch the players I want and you guys are ignoring me. DDL? Townread by like everyone. I suggest Jessie and RDW but nobody really cares about those two or want stuff to do with them. Also Gemma became a null read once I found out about how role claims don't mean much and I only started doubting the lynch against her late in the DP. Wasn't much for me to do. Not to mention the fact that almost everyone was for her lynch, no stopping that. We'll see what happens this DP.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2019 7:22 pmI'm not pleased. You stood against the Gemma lynch, and when asked for alternatives you provided the epitome of player salad. I don't get the impression that you were making a real effort to lynch someone other than Gemma. If we follow to your suggested alternative, we have a buffet to choose from and no consolidation.
I don't care if you have a buffet to choose from, those were and still are who I wanna lynch. Since I'm scum reading 4 ppl and there's only 3 scums left, I'll have to remove someone, I might go with Owner but we'll see... who did Nutella sub in for again?
Everything else you said is pretty hmmmm
Food for Thought:
What if DDL flips town? Where do you go then? Does it impact your rdw/ jessie reads?
I already got half of this one covered /posesJaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2019 8:20 pmThought experiment:
DDL has been lynched. He flipped mafia.
What next for Dragomir?
DDL has been lynched. He flipped civilian.
What next for Dragomir?
But I didn't know she was town. I just thought she might be a mislynch that's all. It wasn't a town read but a hunch I got that made me doubt her lynch.Luxurious wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2019 8:13 pmYou came in today with a “HA I WAS RIGHT” type of response to Gemma’s flip. You did know she was town. You argued against her lynch last day phase.Dragomir wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2019 8:10 pmAre you trying to imply that Gemma being town is something we should have known? Because it seems like you're trying to say that we shouldn't have done that.Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2019 7:34 pm Nova targeted RDW last night.
---I'm kind of pissed; you guys lynched the Night 3 town doctor.
Why are you, specifically, taking issue with this
So you put Owner in DDL’s spot and fix your 3 scum team?Dragomir wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2019 8:17 pmI thought she might have subbed for Jessie.Luxurious wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2019 8:09 pmWhy does Nutella sub matter hereDragomir wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2019 8:05 pm@bold that's cause I wasn't. For the past DPs I've been wanting to lynch the players I want and you guys are ignoring me. DDL? Townread by like everyone. I suggest Jessie and RDW but nobody really cares about those two or want stuff to do with them. Also Gemma became a null read once I found out about how role claims don't mean much and I only started doubting the lynch against her late in the DP. Wasn't much for me to do. Not to mention the fact that almost everyone was for her lynch, no stopping that. We'll see what happens this DP.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2019 7:22 pmI'm not pleased. You stood against the Gemma lynch, and when asked for alternatives you provided the epitome of player salad. I don't get the impression that you were making a real effort to lynch someone other than Gemma. If we follow to your suggested alternative, we have a buffet to choose from and no consolidation.
I don't care if you have a buffet to choose from, those were and still are who I wanna lynch. Since I'm scum reading 4 ppl and there's only 3 scums left, I'll have to remove someone, I might go with Owner but we'll see... who did Nutella sub in for again?
Everything else you said is pretty hmmmm
Food for Thought:
What if DDL flips town? Where do you go then? Does it impact your rdw/ jessie reads?
Not really. I read each of them separately from each other.
... I don't follow. How were you not implying that town made a stupid decision and shouldn't have done it?Dragomir wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2019 8:23 pmBut I didn't know she was town. I just thought she might be a mislynch that's all. It wasn't a town read but a hunch I got that made me doubt her lynch.Luxurious wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2019 8:13 pmYou came in today with a “HA I WAS RIGHT” type of response to Gemma’s flip. You did know she was town. You argued against her lynch last day phase.Dragomir wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2019 8:10 pmAre you trying to imply that Gemma being town is something we should have known? Because it seems like you're trying to say that we shouldn't have done that.Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2019 7:34 pm Nova targeted RDW last night.
---I'm kind of pissed; you guys lynched the Night 3 town doctor.
Why are you, specifically, taking issue with this
I have an issue with this because if she's trying to get mad at the fact that we lynched a townie even though the only way one could deduce she was town was based on reads and all reads differ, then that implies TMI imo. It's like she was trying to say that town made a stupid decision in lynching Gemma and shouldn't have done it get me?
I was just trying to gloat, don't see me getting mad.
First paragraph: okay fair enoughDragomir wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2019 8:23 pmBut I didn't know she was town. I just thought she might be a mislynch that's all. It wasn't a town read but a hunch I got that made me doubt her lynch.Luxurious wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2019 8:13 pmYou came in today with a “HA I WAS RIGHT” type of response to Gemma’s flip. You did know she was town. You argued against her lynch last day phase.Dragomir wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2019 8:10 pmAre you trying to imply that Gemma being town is something we should have known? Because it seems like you're trying to say that we shouldn't have done that.Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2019 7:34 pm Nova targeted RDW last night.
---I'm kind of pissed; you guys lynched the Night 3 town doctor.
Why are you, specifically, taking issue with this
I have an issue with this because if she's trying to get mad at the fact that we lynched a townie even though the only way one could deduce she was town was based on reads and all reads differ, then that implies TMI imo. It's like she was trying to say that town made a stupid decision in lynching Gemma and shouldn't have done it get me?
I was just trying to gloat, don't see me getting mad.
I'll look more into those he interacted with and talked about him in someway. My first post will also be me making an "I told you so" post.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2019 8:20 pmThought experiment:
DDL has been lynched. He flipped mafia.
What next for Dragomir?
DDL has been lynched. He flipped civilian.
What next for Dragomir?
Get a new gimmickDragomir wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2019 8:28 pmI'll look more into those he interacted with and talked about him in someway. My first post will also be me making an "I told you so" post.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2019 8:20 pmThought experiment:
DDL has been lynched. He flipped mafia.
What next for Dragomir?
DDL has been lynched. He flipped civilian.
What next for Dragomir?
I'll move on to my other suspects.