The Syndicate

Because mass claim is a thing and secrets are a thing. We have 1 confirmed town, 5 players get PoE’d. If there’s a cop, they will come out with innos / red checks. There’s too many variables that could end them. Mass claims will spice up the game and will give a reason for town to get back on track and become a wim machine.

There are roles that clear others upon revealing, most likely. We already have a PoE of wolves.

They’d just take the easy way out of here. I think it’s between Sig and probably you, TSP.

Especially if there’s only one mafia. Also, if it’s junko, she has to stop roleblocking, otherwise people will claim rbed, so roles can do their thing.

Sig is already setting me up although I just got soup’d by bear, which makes me confirmed not cult. So there’s an awful push there. Desperate.

For the people not getting it, if I was recruited and DDL knew my role, I wouldn’t get soup’d in ages. Because he knew what role he converted.

So this is why I’m voting sabie, if I voted DDL here, I’d die in the night because I’m confirmed.

That’s 4 people PoE’d now.

Ted is last remaining mafia,

Ddl faked a soup on him to avoid suspicion.

Ddl is also aware of all secrets meaning if he knew that this event was triggered when X happened he'd have the ability to do this

tedxtr wrote: ↑Fri Jan 31, 2020 12:52 pm For the people not getting it, if I was recruited and DDL knew my role, I wouldn’t get soup’d in ages. Because he knew what role he converted.

So this is why I’m voting sabie, if I voted DDL here, I’d die in the night because I’m confirmed.

That’s 4 people PoE’d now.

Soup only works once?
If you were mafia and he faked souped you it makes sense.

Ultimately this is voting between a known green check and a known red check anyone that votes for or even argued for voting sab is scummy af i

Yes, he faked it to spew me when his wincon is to stay alive

And staying alive means killing Makoto

Big thonk

He wouldn’t fake it when the event triggers. He knew the event triggers, so he fires his shot.

He probably would afterwards.

I mean I could have just recruited instead.

More value than some BS gambit to protect ted.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Fri Jan 31, 2020 12:17 pm The reason Makoto needs this bargain is that he is not immune to soup kills. I tried to kill him last night. I would try again if the bargain did not happen. I will do everything I can to kill Makoto because he is the only one who can make me die. The bargain is at the same time his curse and his remedy, because he needs to use it to get rid of me, but the reason I want to kill him in the first place is the threat of him using it.

Did sabie choose to reveal herself as Makoto then, knowing it would be a showdown, and hoping you would lose?

I didn't because I was reasonably sure Ted was Makoto (lol me) and nothing really surpassed the value of preventing today's scenario.

Plus, ddl has been hating me since the start

I bet you this man tried recruiting me every night and failed miserably

Because I hid my role so well that I don’t even know what role I am

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Fri Jan 31, 2020 1:08 pm I didn't because I was reasonably sure Ted was Makoto (lol me) and nothing really surpassed the value of preventing today's scenario.

... you used the Soup Kill because it was a Day 6 event automatically?

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Jan 31, 2020 1:08 pm

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Fri Jan 31, 2020 12:17 pm The reason Makoto needs this bargain is that he is not immune to soup kills. I tried to kill him last night. I would try again if the bargain did not happen. I will do everything I can to kill Makoto because he is the only one who can make me die. The bargain is at the same time his curse and his remedy, because he needs to use it to get rid of me, but the reason I want to kill him in the first place is the threat of him using it.

Did sabie choose to reveal herself as Makoto then, knowing it would be a showdown, and hoping you would lose?

From what I'm getting she didn't the the host screwed her up.

But imo she is better off this way. I would find her eventually and kill her.

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Jan 31, 2020 1:09 pm

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Fri Jan 31, 2020 1:08 pm I didn't because I was reasonably sure Ted was Makoto (lol me) and nothing really surpassed the value of preventing today's scenario.

... you used the Soup Kill because it was a Day 6 event automatically?

I think she can activate it starting from day 6 but can do it later.

So Night 5 was my deadline for preventing it.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Fri Jan 31, 2020 1:10 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Jan 31, 2020 1:08 pm

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Fri Jan 31, 2020 12:17 pm The reason Makoto needs this bargain is that he is not immune to soup kills. I tried to kill him last night. I would try again if the bargain did not happen. I will do everything I can to kill Makoto because he is the only one who can make me die. The bargain is at the same time his curse and his remedy, because he needs to use it to get rid of me, but the reason I want to kill him in the first place is the threat of him using it.

Did sabie choose to reveal herself as Makoto then, knowing it would be a showdown, and hoping you would lose?

From what I'm getting she didn't the the host screwed her up.

But imo she is better off this way. I would find her eventually and kill her.

Multiple Soup Kills?

tedxtr wrote: ↑Fri Jan 31, 2020 12:52 pm For the people not getting it, if I was recruited and DDL knew my role, I wouldn’t get soup’d in ages. Because he knew what role he converted.

So this is why I’m voting sabie, if I voted DDL here, I’d die in the night because I’m confirmed.

That’s 4 people PoE’d now.

Coooooooo? (To be fair could DDL just not know you were recruited? Mafia doesn't have to tell DDL who they are since they don't even know what wincon DDL has)

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Fri Jan 31, 2020 1:07 pm I mean I could have just recruited instead.

More value than some BS gambit to protect ted.

COO! COO! (Lol you like 95% can't recruit anymore but kay)

Let’s all vote sabie, DDL seems like a cool guy

DDL is like the type of guy that you would call over for a drink and to watch a football game, great guy

sig wrote: ↑Fri Jan 31, 2020 1:03 pm Ted is last remaining mafia,

Ddl faked a soup on him to avoid suspicion.

This is definitely a “wait what” argument

There’s absolutely no reason to vote for the bear.

Sig acknowledges defeat.

I’m getting thrown off by Sabie

Just vote sabie guys, you literally lose.

Accept the bargain with the devil. Now, I believe that the devil is an honest man. You sometimes have to make risks, but oh man, are they worth a lil’ something.

Tex DDL is possible I guess?

Oh Jack died. :’(

The devil might appear to be a compulsive liar, but your loyalty that is submitted to his patriarchy will be rewarded.

Nah I literally think town loses this / only 2 people win

I’m already a suspect for no reason so there goes 2 town that die

You’re never hitting scum. Never. Never never. Ever. Never ever in the neverland. Stop. Grasp the opportunity. Cling onto the fucking Holy Grail that is a chance to win in this hopeless game.

Join me, among the Founding Father of despair, into our pursuit

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Jan 31, 2020 1:11 pm

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Fri Jan 31, 2020 1:10 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Jan 31, 2020 1:08 pm

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Fri Jan 31, 2020 12:17 pm The reason Makoto needs this bargain is that he is not immune to soup kills. I tried to kill him last night. I would try again if the bargain did not happen. I will do everything I can to kill Makoto because he is the only one who can make me die. The bargain is at the same time his curse and his remedy, because he needs to use it to get rid of me, but the reason I want to kill him in the first place is the threat of him using it.

Did sabie choose to reveal herself as Makoto then, knowing it would be a showdown, and hoping you would lose?

From what I'm getting she didn't the the host screwed her up.

But imo she is better off this way. I would find her eventually and kill her.

Multiple Soup Kills?

Uh... yes? You guys came up with this fantasy idea that I had limited soup kills but I didn't. Could have used them every night if I wanted.

DDL, if I asked you to guess my role and you had 3 picks, what would you PoE me to, just curious

Okosan wrote: ↑Fri Jan 31, 2020 1:14 pm

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Fri Jan 31, 2020 1:07 pm I mean I could have just recruited instead.

More value than some BS gambit to protect ted.

COO! COO! (Lol you like 95% can't recruit anymore but kay)

You'd be surprised.

I'm pretty sure I missed at least one recruit due to not knowing who is dead.

Did I miss two? Who knows...

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Fri Jan 31, 2020 1:32 pm

Okosan wrote: ↑Fri Jan 31, 2020 1:14 pm

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Fri Jan 31, 2020 1:07 pm I mean I could have just recruited instead.

More value than some BS gambit to protect ted.

COO! COO! (Lol you like 95% can't recruit anymore but kay)

You'd be surprised.

I'm pretty sure I missed at least one recruit due to not knowing who is dead.

Did I miss two? Who knows...

COO! (Nah Okosan probably won't be surprised tbh)

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Fri Jan 31, 2020 1:32 pm

Okosan wrote: ↑Fri Jan 31, 2020 1:14 pm

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Fri Jan 31, 2020 1:07 pm I mean I could have just recruited instead.

More value than some BS gambit to protect ted.

COO! COO! (Lol you like 95% can't recruit anymore but kay)

You'd be surprised.

I'm pretty sure I missed at least one recruit due to not knowing who is dead.

Did I miss two? Who knows...

LC isn’t scum

If we lynch the bear we all lose.

Mafia wins.

I am sure.

Do not under any circumstances lynch DDL.

^^^^^^^ this man gets it

I sure love playing with TSP, he’s a rational man. A man of reason. A logical player. A strong player.

I think we lynched Junko already, if anyone cares. DDL said sonething.

Sloonei, what do you think about the whole situation?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Jan 31, 2020 1:49 pm I think we lynched Junko already, if anyone cares. DDL said sonething.

This was clear I think. I was operating under this assumption.

I still advocate voting for DDL because I want to play this game out and try to win for town. But I’m also unclear that I’m even eligible to win in the scenario where sabie gets lynched, so that’s an extra incentive for me that no one else has.

tedxtr wrote: ↑Fri Jan 31, 2020 1:50 pm Sloonei, what do you think about the whole situation?

Lynching DDL = more fun

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Jan 31, 2020 1:50 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Jan 31, 2020 1:49 pm I think we lynched Junko already, if anyone cares. DDL said sonething.

This was clear I think. I was operating under this assumption.

That's new to me.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Jan 31, 2020 1:52 pm

tedxtr wrote: ↑Fri Jan 31, 2020 1:50 pm Sloonei, what do you think about the whole situation?

Lynching DDL = more fun

Certainly true but wrong

All we have to go by is the word of the bad guy. Sorry, gents, that's not going to do it for me. I'd rather lose the game as Town than lose the game because I'm a huge sucker.

Losing = no fun