Re: Fleabag Mafia d2
Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2021 2:12 pm
[VOTE:
Marmot] aubergine
Well I liked him trying to get onto the game despite not having internet and using his phone data during EOD1. I feel like as town that players would try to be here as much as possible for the game.
Thanks but no thanks. Marmot wasn't in my POE. I'm not sold on what's been put forth yet.
This just makes me thing Marmot is actually your partnerG-Man wrote: ↑Wed Sep 15, 2021 2:37 pmThanks but no thanks. Marmot wasn't in my POE. I'm not sold on what's been put forth yet.
Also, now that it is 4-4, please be careful folks. Hammer is 7, and it only takes one or two more civvies caught up in the rush of the moment to make a mistake and help the baddies pull off a mischop. Patience. Yes, patience will be our ally this day.
[VOTE: Unvote] auberginestaypositivefriend wrote: ↑Wed Sep 15, 2021 2:39 pm currently not able to be here, but marmot should not be chopped today
FineMarmot wrote: ↑Wed Sep 15, 2021 2:37 pm But in order for my vote for myself to be serious, I expect the following:
@Dolby I expect a solid reason to vote for me. Your last read on me was a can be town read early on in Day 2. You haven't talked about me since then. I see that you uh, have a vibe read of Lime Coke and kinda just like LC on skim, but I expect more than this.
@NotAnAxehole to be honest, I don't know why you suspect me. I've only seen you voice a strong interest in killing me as of today. Can you explain why you want this?
@Lime Coke you still haven't responded to my question of why I'm a scumread to you. You said that you got hit in the head and forgot who I was, but that says nothing to me about why you scumread me.
If all three of you can do these things, I will consider keeping my vote where it is. Otherwise, I'll remain convinced that you're two mafia and an IC with more interest in leading a counter-wagon than in yeeting scum.
That's impossible. JJJ's colorful spreadsheet ruled it out. To suggest a G-Marmot team would be to reject the spreadsheet. Do not give in to such treacherous thoughts.NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Wed Sep 15, 2021 2:41 pmThis just makes me thing Marmot is actually your partnerG-Man wrote: ↑Wed Sep 15, 2021 2:37 pmThanks but no thanks. Marmot wasn't in my POE. I'm not sold on what's been put forth yet.
Also, now that it is 4-4, please be careful folks. Hammer is 7, and it only takes one or two more civvies caught up in the rush of the moment to make a mistake and help the baddies pull off a mischop. Patience. Yes, patience will be our ally this day.
The "triad" is a confirmed townie, Sloonei, and I. There are two options to push. Sloonei and I have been identical, and you've noted that yourself. Pretending I am an appropriate "pet suspect" while Sloonei is somehow a "wack" suspicion is nonsense.
I'm including Dizzy in this fwiwJaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Sep 15, 2021 2:57 pmThe "triad" is a confirmed townie, Sloonei, and I. There are two options to push. Sloonei and I have been identical, and you've noted that yourself. Pretending I am an appropriate "pet suspect" while Sloonei is somehow a "wack" suspicion is nonsense.
Suspecting Jay -- sensible and I literally doDolby wrote: ↑Wed Sep 15, 2021 2:59 pmI'm including Dizzy in this fwiwJaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Sep 15, 2021 2:57 pmThe "triad" is a confirmed townie, Sloonei, and I. There are two options to push. Sloonei and I have been identical, and you've noted that yourself. Pretending I am an appropriate "pet suspect" while Sloonei is somehow a "wack" suspicion is nonsense.
I expect the default to be different from just "the majority of low posters are evil" without further evaluation of your townreads, and been doing it since the start. Now you have changed your townreads around more than a bit. Lime Coke is one of them. It seems that he got more scrutiny for the main reason that he was the least consensus of your reads, and much of your reevaluation there was directed from external forces.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Sep 15, 2021 3:00 pmSuspecting Jay -- sensible and I literally doDolby wrote: ↑Wed Sep 15, 2021 2:59 pmI'm including Dizzy in this fwiwJaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Sep 15, 2021 2:57 pmThe "triad" is a confirmed townie, Sloonei, and I. There are two options to push. Sloonei and I have been identical, and you've noted that yourself. Pretending I am an appropriate "pet suspect" while Sloonei is somehow a "wack" suspicion is nonsense.
Suspecting Dizzy -- unknown viewpoint
Suspecting Sloonei -- wack
How can these perspectives exist together? I don't believe you.
If you're town you should really take a honest look at your ego bc this is prompted entirely by my read on you.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Sep 15, 2021 3:02 pm Suspecting Lime Coke -- naw I have vibes
Others should comment if they haven't already, because Dolby doesn't look authentic at all to me right now.
1) What does this have to do with my alignment? Receiving feedback from the game and allowing it to have an influence over my assessments is pretty critical to anyone who isn't interested in playing by themselves in the corner.Dolby wrote: ↑Wed Sep 15, 2021 3:06 pm I expect the default to be different from just "the majority of low posters are evil" without further evaluation of your townreads, and been doing it since the start. Now you have changed your townreads around more than a bit. Lime Coke is one of them. It seems that he got more scrutiny for the main reason that he was the least consensus of your reads, and much of your reevaluation there was directed from external forces.
Is Dyslexicon a reasonable suspect?Dolby wrote: ↑Wed Sep 15, 2021 3:06 pmI expect the default to be different from just "the majority of low posters are evil" without further evaluation of your townreads, and been doing it since the start. Now you have changed your townreads around more than a bit. Lime Coke is one of them. It seems that he got more scrutiny for the main reason that he was the least consensus of your reads, and much of your reevaluation there was directed from external forces.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Sep 15, 2021 3:00 pmSuspecting Jay -- sensible and I literally doDolby wrote: ↑Wed Sep 15, 2021 2:59 pmI'm including Dizzy in this fwiwJaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Sep 15, 2021 2:57 pmThe "triad" is a confirmed townie, Sloonei, and I. There are two options to push. Sloonei and I have been identical, and you've noted that yourself. Pretending I am an appropriate "pet suspect" while Sloonei is somehow a "wack" suspicion is nonsense.
Suspecting Dizzy -- unknown viewpoint
Suspecting Sloonei -- wack
How can these perspectives exist together? I don't believe you.
Sloonei doesn't look like he's trying to chainsaw tomorrow into me/GMan/JohannaJaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Sep 15, 2021 3:11 pm @Dolby let's just simplify this to one basic question:
What's the difference between Sloonei and I that can allow your views to make sense? I am asking because I don't know, and only you can show me.
Yes. There's like 3ish people who have them in their PoE if I recall correctly. I also get the same chainsaw vibes from them at points but that's mainly confined within Day OneSloonei wrote: ↑Wed Sep 15, 2021 3:11 pmIs Dyslexicon a reasonable suspect?Dolby wrote: ↑Wed Sep 15, 2021 3:06 pmI expect the default to be different from just "the majority of low posters are evil" without further evaluation of your townreads, and been doing it since the start. Now you have changed your townreads around more than a bit. Lime Coke is one of them. It seems that he got more scrutiny for the main reason that he was the least consensus of your reads, and much of your reevaluation there was directed from external forces.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Sep 15, 2021 3:00 pmSuspecting Jay -- sensible and I literally doDolby wrote: ↑Wed Sep 15, 2021 2:59 pmI'm including Dizzy in this fwiwJaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Sep 15, 2021 2:57 pmThe "triad" is a confirmed townie, Sloonei, and I. There are two options to push. Sloonei and I have been identical, and you've noted that yourself. Pretending I am an appropriate "pet suspect" while Sloonei is somehow a "wack" suspicion is nonsense.
Suspecting Dizzy -- unknown viewpoint
Suspecting Sloonei -- wack
How can these perspectives exist together? I don't believe you.
If I was interested in a "chainsaw" I wouldn't bother talking about this with you right now. If I sound like an ego-maniac, it's because I am trying to make sense of something that I, entering the dialogue, think doesn't make sense from someone I suspect who is also voting for one of my town reads. I also think Johanna is probably town. I just have room in the POE pool for one more.Dolby wrote: ↑Wed Sep 15, 2021 3:12 pmSloonei doesn't look like he's trying to chainsaw tomorrow into me/GMan/JohannaJaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Sep 15, 2021 3:11 pm @Dolby let's just simplify this to one basic question:
What's the difference between Sloonei and I that can allow your views to make sense? I am asking because I don't know, and only you can show me.
I recognize that you currently townread Johanna ftr, and have them top spot of the PoE. I don't like the day one discourse surrounding all three of our slots and how it's evolved today.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Sep 15, 2021 3:17 pmIf I was interested in a "chainsaw" I wouldn't bother talking about this with you right now. If I sound like an ego-maniac, it's because I am trying to make sense of something that I, entering the dialogue, think doesn't make sense from someone I suspect who is also voting for one of my town reads. I also think Johanna is probably town. I just have room in the POE pool for one more.Dolby wrote: ↑Wed Sep 15, 2021 3:12 pmSloonei doesn't look like he's trying to chainsaw tomorrow into me/GMan/JohannaJaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Sep 15, 2021 3:11 pm @Dolby let's just simplify this to one basic question:
What's the difference between Sloonei and I that can allow your views to make sense? I am asking because I don't know, and only you can show me.
Here are a couple examples:Dolby wrote: ↑Wed Sep 15, 2021 3:19 pmI recognize that you currently townread Johanna ftr, and have them top spot of the PoE. I don't like the day one discourse surrounding all three of our slots and how it's evolved today.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Sep 15, 2021 3:17 pmIf I was interested in a "chainsaw" I wouldn't bother talking about this with you right now. If I sound like an ego-maniac, it's because I am trying to make sense of something that I, entering the dialogue, think doesn't make sense from someone I suspect who is also voting for one of my town reads. I also think Johanna is probably town. I just have room in the POE pool for one more.Dolby wrote: ↑Wed Sep 15, 2021 3:12 pmSloonei doesn't look like he's trying to chainsaw tomorrow into me/GMan/JohannaJaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Sep 15, 2021 3:11 pm @Dolby let's just simplify this to one basic question:
What's the difference between Sloonei and I that can allow your views to make sense? I am asking because I don't know, and only you can show me.
Can you tell me how LC's early posts felt like TMI?
The latter is something I think could represent teammates, but if falcon is town it still just looks like TMI. The Sloonei read is more blatant. In both cases we have a general "this person did a thing that I will suggest is usually/sometimes/always suspicious but they're town anyway".Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 12:53 pmNothing of detail yet I just liked Dizzy's energy this game.
I mostly skimmed the thread upon catch-up so I missed a majority of Falcon and Axehole posts.
Falcon's interaction with me feels like town!Falcon where he does things that just ping the hell out of me and I'm inclined to tunnel him. Not married to the thought but I don't think I vote him today.
Take Sloonei and DizzyJaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Sep 15, 2021 3:18 pm And telling me that I haven't been further evaluating my town reads after the ridiculous turbulence I have experienced in this day phase -- it's hard for me to understand how you can read my posts, Dolby, and interpret them that way. It feels like being told by a librarian I never visit my local public library while I am literally standing at the counter trying to check out a book.
The first post is something that I see 100% coming from Bluekang regardless of alignmentJaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Sep 15, 2021 3:23 pmHere are a couple examples:Dolby wrote: ↑Wed Sep 15, 2021 3:19 pmI recognize that you currently townread Johanna ftr, and have them top spot of the PoE. I don't like the day one discourse surrounding all three of our slots and how it's evolved today.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Sep 15, 2021 3:17 pmIf I was interested in a "chainsaw" I wouldn't bother talking about this with you right now. If I sound like an ego-maniac, it's because I am trying to make sense of something that I, entering the dialogue, think doesn't make sense from someone I suspect who is also voting for one of my town reads. I also think Johanna is probably town. I just have room in the POE pool for one more.Dolby wrote: ↑Wed Sep 15, 2021 3:12 pmSloonei doesn't look like he's trying to chainsaw tomorrow into me/GMan/JohannaJaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Sep 15, 2021 3:11 pm @Dolby let's just simplify this to one basic question:
What's the difference between Sloonei and I that can allow your views to make sense? I am asking because I don't know, and only you can show me.
Can you tell me how LC's early posts felt like TMI?
The latter is something I think could represent teammates, but if falcon is town it still just looks like TMI. The Sloonei read is more blatant. In both cases we have a general "this person did a thing that I will suggest is usually/sometimes/always suspicious but they're town anyway".Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 12:53 pmNothing of detail yet I just liked Dizzy's energy this game.
I mostly skimmed the thread upon catch-up so I missed a majority of Falcon and Axehole posts.
Falcon's interaction with me feels like town!Falcon where he does things that just ping the hell out of me and I'm inclined to tunnel him. Not married to the thought but I don't think I vote him today.
If I don't get to it soon, remind me to talk with you about the team you proposed with Marmot in it. I want to revisit the interactions.NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Wed Sep 15, 2021 3:20 pm I have every intention of voting for Lime Coke today, I'm just trying to keep the day moving with random votes and slapping the word pressure here and there.
And I could stand to take a more thorough look at Dyslexicon. I will grant you that much. It's hard to make it a priority with time limited since he and I are seeing the same game, but as I suggested in the trustfall exercise: he warrants a more respectful assessment.
I will, however, make more reads like this when a mafioso has actually flipped. When the interactions are still blind, that's less meaningful to me.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Sep 15, 2021 4:21 pm I don't tend to operate that often in a space where two people are a "great fit" or a "real threat to be teamed".