The Syndicate

Havok wrote:The only thing that has made me hesitate on Shadowcat is the possibility that she misinterpreted this "info" on Exodus, and Domino and co. just ran with it after the Exodus lynch. I still think my theory is correct about Shadowcat being a brotherhood, but Polaris's recent insistence that Shadowcat is good has me a little nervous because I think after the last lynch it's obvious that Polaris is brotherhood. If I had to rank today's best bets for finding a baddie it would be 1. polaris 2. Hawkeye 3. Shadowcat

Havok wrote:oh and one more thing. About who ended up as the lynchee yesterday. The host said that the result was not a tie. I know that I did not end up with the most votes because if I had, I would not have survived a lynch. So that means either Rasputin or WQ ended up with the most votes. I find it unlikely that Rasputin ended up with the most because that would mean he survived both a NK and a lynch. And then there is WQ telling us that she survived a NK when it was obvious that it was a redirect onto someoen else. She then tells us that she would survive a lynch and I think it's pretty clear at this point that WQ is Apocalypse.

Spiral wrote:I don't trust any of you. I think you're all using faulty logic based on assumptions, thinking your word is the word of god. You all sounds bad to me at this point.

Havok wrote:Ok, so if I am wrong and Exodus really was Mystique, I think it means that the baddies have been playing the exact opposite of what I've thought, and that would mean they are playing super low key games....letting everyone else go crazy and vote out everyone but them.

So, if Exodus was Mystique(not saying I believe that as I still think Domino makes more sense to be Mystique), his team mates totally abandoned him and left him out to dry even though they all knew he'd flip as a civvie role. I'd be interested to hear theories on possible team mates of Exodus because as I sit here thinking about it from the POV that Exodus was bad, I can't think of a possible team mate from the remaining group.

Hawkeye wrote:

Havok wrote:Ok, so if I am wrong and Exodus really was Mystique, I think it means that the baddies have been playing the exact opposite of what I've thought, and that would mean they are playing super low key games....letting everyone else go crazy and vote out everyone but them.

So, if Exodus was Mystique(not saying I believe that as I still think Domino makes more sense to be Mystique), his team mates totally abandoned him and left him out to dry even though they all knew he'd flip as a civvie role. I'd be interested to hear theories on possible team mates of Exodus because as I sit here thinking about it from the POV that Exodus was bad, I can't think of a possible team mate from the remaining group.

I'm one of those who thinks Exodus was the real Mystique: he was defensive, had the same piece of info as SC yet barely managed a NO U, and Domino later committed suicide as Mystique to prove what?

Havok wrote:

Hawkeye wrote:

Havok wrote:Ok, so if I am wrong and Exodus really was Mystique, I think it means that the baddies have been playing the exact opposite of what I've thought, and that would mean they are playing super low key games....letting everyone else go crazy and vote out everyone but them.

So, if Exodus was Mystique(not saying I believe that as I still think Domino makes more sense to be Mystique), his team mates totally abandoned him and left him out to dry even though they all knew he'd flip as a civvie role. I'd be interested to hear theories on possible team mates of Exodus because as I sit here thinking about it from the POV that Exodus was bad, I can't think of a possible team mate from the remaining group.

I'm one of those who thinks Exodus was the real Mystique: he was defensive, had the same piece of info as SC yet barely managed a NO U, and Domino later committed suicide as Mystique to prove what?

I'm not trying to argue Exodus vs Domino as the real Mystique. I've been doing that for days and it's led to where we are now. I'm trying to get a discussion going assuming I am wrong and that Exodus was Mystique.

Havok wrote:Ok, so if I am wrong and Exodus really was Mystique, I think it means that the baddies have been playing the exact opposite of what I've thought, and that would mean they are playing super low key games....letting everyone else go crazy and vote out everyone but them.

So, if Exodus was Mystique(not saying I believe that as I still think Domino makes more sense to be Mystique), his team mates totally abandoned him and left him out to dry even though they all knew he'd flip as a civvie role. I'd be interested to hear theories on possible team mates of Exodus because as I sit here thinking about it from the POV that Exodus was bad, I can't think of a possible team mate from the remaining group.

Havok wrote:Exodus
10
Shadowcat (2), Sunfire (3), White Queen (5), The Vision (7), Mojo (8), Hawkeye (10), Cable (11), Longshot (12), Polaris (14), Sebastian Shaw (15)
59%

Sunfire
3
Domino (9), Deadpool (13), Phoenix (16)
18%

Mojo
1
Havok (17)
6%

Sebastian Shaw
1
Mikhail Rasputin (6)
6%

Shadowcat
1
Exodus (4)
6%

Exodus's lynch so we have it to look at.

Longshot wrote:I am fine voting Shaw or Marrow or Spiral. I've thought Shaw is hinky ever since he refused, no matter how many times i asked, to explain why he voted for Cable other than "he's bad". I just think it's important for us not to split our votes if we can help it. Who else is on our side that we can count on to vote with us?

The Vision wrote:I just read through Shaw's posts, all 27 of them.

He's done the same thing as Marrow; consistently saying "oh, that guy is good" with no explanation, and then when "that guy" is lynched and is civ, Shaw says "shoulda listened" or what have you.

These two sound like baddies coasting along, because baddies know who the civs are. And civs, if they have an info role or info from a prize, would try harder to convince people not to vote for civs; Marrow and Shaw just kind of put it out there that so-n-so is good without any thoughts.

I'm fine voting for one of them. Interesting to note, Shaw has been fairly supportive of The White Queen.

The Vision wrote:I just read through Shaw's posts, all 27 of them.

He's done the same thing as Marrow; consistently saying "oh, that guy is good" with no explanation, and then when "that guy" is lynched and is civ, Shaw says "shoulda listened" or what have you.

These two sound like baddies coasting along, because baddies know who the civs are. And civs, if they have an info role or info from a prize, would try harder to convince people not to vote for civs; Marrow and Shaw just kind of put it out there that so-n-so is good without any thoughts.

I'm fine voting for one of them. Interesting to note, Shaw has been fairly supportive of The White Queen.

Banshee wrote:Epig, if we were to lynch someone who had been recruited, would the fact that they'd been recruited be revealed upon lynching?

That's quite a loaded question, isn't it?

Epignosis wrote: That's quite a loaded question, isn't it?

Epignosis wrote:

Banshee wrote:Epig, if we were to lynch someone who had been recruited, would the fact that they'd been recruited be revealed upon lynching?

That's quite a loaded question, isn't it?

Spiral wrote:I don't trust any of you. I think you're all using faulty logic based on assumptions, thinking your word is the word of god. You all sounds bad to me at this point.

Hawkeye wrote:

Spiral wrote: Because your last minute vote switching makes me feel not good about you, and I think White Queen is Apocalypse and I think that it's useless to lynch her at the moment.

But nice to know that you think anyone who doesn't agree with you must not read your posts.

I'm so sick of people in this game vaguely insinuating that I'm not reading.

Okay, let's try and discuss this.

I agree that trying to lynch WQ is useless. It's frustrating because now she can get away with anything, but that's the way it is, and I'm trying to ignore her. Have you followed my post sequence on Day 6? On the first day of the cycle I said I did not like her reaction to surviving a night kill and that I would be looking into it. You should know it because you replied to it. I return the next day making that post with which you agreed. However, it was an even cycle, so I advised people to try and not spread the vote, including you, who had already voted for WQ. Then while I was posting that, SC says she's down for a WQ vote. So, because I was not going to vote for Rasputin, and was not comfortable with a Havok vote either I switched, hoping that more people would follow. Then I realized with all the redirected powers from the previous night that if Magneto was still alive, there was a high chance that his target was redirected as well and took a chance which ended in WQ being the main candidate for that lynch. She survived, and it's very likely that she's Apocalypse. I keep posting this over and over and nobody seems to care because they don't even bother addressing it, so I assume they're not reading or they are reading it but choose to ignore it on purpose because it clashes with their personal agenda.

And to address your last point. I understand you are sick of people insinuating that, I was straightforward about it, but do you see why some people assume that? It's the way you choose to reply to some posts. Not all of them, I've seen you take your time and reply properly. I'm talking about my case because I'm mostly familiar with this one. I try to address everything in a post whether I agree with it or not. You don't do that. I usually make extensive posts, and in your replies, you ignore the core of the post and either pick on something that I don't think it's worth picking on especially since you don't explain why, or like last time go 'lol you're so bad' without explaining why or taking anything that I've posted into consideration. That's why I assume you're not reading. But apparently it's not the case. So then it really makes me wonder. Why do you choose to ignore things?

Linki tits - I was just about to post how you're not reading what I'm posting, but yay! And to answer your question: Yes! That's what I've been trying to say for a few days now. And keep in mind that it's not reduced solely to maths. The rest of the explanation requires discussing PM content. Read this reply to Spiral about the sequence of events.

Mikhail Rasputin wrote:

Spiral wrote:I don't trust any of you. I think you're all using faulty logic based on assumptions, thinking your word is the word of god. You all sounds bad to me at this point.

Well, that's not the most productive mindset. Only 6 of us can be bad this point, maximum.

Linki: So, Polaris, it's ok to change our minds last-minute and vote whoever, but not to carefully consider and update our suspicions as time and events dictate? Ok, then. You and I are clearly playing different games.

The Vision wrote:Marrow has been very unhelpful. Reading thru the content takes about 3 minutes. And Marrow made a point a few times of staying clear of some eventual-civ lynches "I'm not touching THAT" etc. Baddies know who the civs are, so when someone is so defiantly against lynches that the rest of us felt were worth following, hindsight sometimes is telling.

But is that enough to warrant a lynch? It's Day 7, we've talked about so much... to now turn and lynch a quiet player seems weird, frankly. Is there a different quieter player whose got a better case to be made? I don't have time read back on Shaw or Deadpool, but I'm open to listening to cases there, and if we do go Marrow I'll support it, but I'd rather something a bit meatier.

The Vision wrote:I just read through Shaw's posts, all 27 of them.

He's done the same thing as Marrow; consistently saying "oh, that guy is good" with no explanation, and then when "that guy" is lynched and is civ, Shaw says "shoulda listened" or what have you.

These two sound like baddies coasting along, because baddies know who the civs are. And civs, if they have an info role or info from a prize, would try harder to convince people not to vote for civs; Marrow and Shaw just kind of put it out there that so-n-so is good without any thoughts.

I'm fine voting for one of them. Interesting to note, Shaw has been fairly supportive of The White Queen.

Longshot wrote:I am fine voting Shaw or Marrow or Spiral. I've thought Shaw is hinky ever since he refused, no matter how many times i asked, to explain why he voted for Cable other than "he's bad". I just think it's important for us not to split our votes if we can help it. Who else is on our side that we can count on to vote with us?

The Vision wrote:Marrow has been very unhelpful. Reading thru the content takes about 3 minutes. And Marrow made a point a few times of staying clear of some eventual-civ lynches "I'm not touching THAT" etc. Baddies know who the civs are, so when someone is so defiantly against lynches that the rest of us felt were worth following, hindsight sometimes is telling.

But is that enough to warrant a lynch? It's Day 7, we've talked about so much... to now turn and lynch a quiet player seems weird, frankly. Is there a different quieter player whose got a better case to be made? I don't have time read back on Shaw or Deadpool, but I'm open to listening to cases there, and if we do go Marrow I'll support it, but I'd rather something a bit meatier.

Marrow wrote:I want to apologize for not being around enough, RL has gotten in the way, and I'm struggling to vote every day. Other than me not being around, which is not my choice, your only other point against me is that I didn't lynch civvies. I see no flaws in that logic.

Spiral wrote:

Hawkeye wrote:

Spiral wrote: Because your last minute vote switching makes me feel not good about you, and I think White Queen is Apocalypse and I think that it's useless to lynch her at the moment.

But nice to know that you think anyone who doesn't agree with you must not read your posts.

I'm so sick of people in this game vaguely insinuating that I'm not reading.

Okay, let's try and discuss this.

I agree that trying to lynch WQ is useless. It's frustrating because now she can get away with anything, but that's the way it is, and I'm trying to ignore her. Have you followed my post sequence on Day 6? On the first day of the cycle I said I did not like her reaction to surviving a night kill and that I would be looking into it. You should know it because you replied to it. I return the next day making that post with which you agreed. However, it was an even cycle, so I advised people to try and not spread the vote, including you, who had already voted for WQ. Then while I was posting that, SC says she's down for a WQ vote. So, because I was not going to vote for Rasputin, and was not comfortable with a Havok vote either I switched, hoping that more people would follow. Then I realized with all the redirected powers from the previous night that if Magneto was still alive, there was a high chance that his target was redirected as well and took a chance which ended in WQ being the main candidate for that lynch. She survived, and it's very likely that she's Apocalypse. I keep posting this over and over and nobody seems to care because they don't even bother addressing it, so I assume they're not reading or they are reading it but choose to ignore it on purpose because it clashes with their personal agenda.

And to address your last point. I understand you are sick of people insinuating that, I was straightforward about it, but do you see why some people assume that? It's the way you choose to reply to some posts. Not all of them, I've seen you take your time and reply properly. I'm talking about my case because I'm mostly familiar with this one. I try to address everything in a post whether I agree with it or not. You don't do that. I usually make extensive posts, and in your replies, you ignore the core of the post and either pick on something that I don't think it's worth picking on especially since you don't explain why, or like last time go 'lol you're so bad' without explaining why or taking anything that I've posted into consideration. That's why I assume you're not reading. But apparently it's not the case. So then it really makes me wonder. Why do you choose to ignore things?

Linki tits - I was just about to post how you're not reading what I'm posting, but yay! And to answer your question: Yes! That's what I've been trying to say for a few days now. And keep in mind that it's not reduced solely to maths. The rest of the explanation requires discussing PM content. Read this reply to Spiral about the sequence of events.

Here's the think Hawkeye, you aren't reading my posts. That's very clear. White Queen didn't survive a NK-- it was redirected. I also looked into White Queen for her reaction to that. However, the difference is that you switched your vote last minute. I did not. All of this last minute vote switching is causing chaos. I believe this isn't your first time doing that either, time game.

Avalanche wrote:So Marrow doesn't post anything for a week, and then after her name is brought up, she pops in to explain herself? Seems fishy, eh?

Avalanche wrote:So Marrow doesn't post anything for a week, and then after her name is brought up, she pops in to explain herself? Seems fishy, eh?

The Vision wrote:

Avalanche wrote:So Marrow doesn't post anything for a week, and then after her name is brought up, she pops in to explain herself? Seems fishy, eh?

I didn't want to say it, but... lol, yes.

Deadpool wrote:so after all that jibberjab u guys wanna lynch a low poster on day 7. real original guys i guess the baddies must truly b runnin the show after all. thats some weaksauce. i wont be votin for shaw or marrow just cuz they aint been as prolific of posters as some of yall

Avalanche wrote:

Deadpool wrote:so after all that jibberjab u guys wanna lynch a low poster on day 7. real original guys i guess the baddies must truly b runnin the show after all. thats some weaksauce. i wont be votin for shaw or marrow just cuz they aint been as prolific of posters as some of yall

Not me. I want to lynch White Queen. Or should I say White Lie?

Deadpool wrote:so after all that jibberjab u guys wanna lynch a low poster on day 7. real original guys i guess the baddies must truly b runnin the show after all. thats some weaksauce. i wont be votin for shaw or marrow just cuz they aint been as prolific of posters as some of yall

Havok wrote:

Avalanche wrote:

Deadpool wrote:so after all that jibberjab u guys wanna lynch a low poster on day 7. real original guys i guess the baddies must truly b runnin the show after all. thats some weaksauce. i wont be votin for shaw or marrow just cuz they aint been as prolific of posters as some of yall

Not me. I want to lynch White Queen. Or should I say White Lie?

So, you don't think she's Apocalypse? You just think she's been lying or is there anything else that leads you to this conclusion?

Deadpool wrote:viz i think spiral sounds bad im probs gonna vote4him