The Syndicate

Russtifinko wrote:

Leamiteo wrote: Remember the rules, have fun is in there twice!

3 times!

thellama73 wrote:Thanks for finding that AP quote, Leamiteo. I missed it and am willing to view him more sympathetically in light of it. I have not been seeing the Boogs suspicion, but a lot of people I think are Civ seem pretty sure and I am tired of getting blamed for civ lynches, so if people want to vote that way and test their theory today, I will not try to stop them.

Epignosis wrote:

thellama73 wrote:Thanks for finding that AP quote, Leamiteo. I missed it and am willing to view him more sympathetically in light of it. I have not been seeing the Boogs suspicion, but a lot of people I think are Civ seem pretty sure and I am tired of getting blamed for civ lynches, so if people want to vote that way and test their theory today, I will not try to stop them.

You're not very good at this.

thellama73 wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

thellama73 wrote:Thanks for finding that AP quote, Leamiteo. I missed it and am willing to view him more sympathetically in light of it. I have not been seeing the Boogs suspicion, but a lot of people I think are Civ seem pretty sure and I am tired of getting blamed for civ lynches, so if people want to vote that way and test their theory today, I will not try to stop them.

You're not very good at this.

Then why am I tied for most wins on the site.

Boogs wrote:

thellama73 wrote:

Boogs wrote:Speaking of low posters from my thoughts earlier, why have we squashed all discussion SpaceDaisy could be bad since Day 3? There was still a possibility she could have been on the other Goblin team. Just throwing out there people that should be brought up again we seemed to have forgotten are the real targets.

Wasn't the main suspicion of SpaceDaisy the way she interacted with MP? If that is the case, I don't see how that makes her a candidate for the other goblin team.

Indeed it was at first. But, she's sliding by now as a low poster just like Lizzy, Hedgeowl, and a few others. I just really have a gut feeling the people we continuously are trying aren't getting us anywhere. I'd be happy with low poster getting lynched today to find the real Goblins or Smaug, as well as I personally obviously think something weird was still going on with the Mongoose lynch and think Snow is shady and bad still. I can't put my finger on it, but I just don't see how we were wrong about Mongoose and she conveniently turned up Bilbo... Something weird is going on. So I'd throw my vote to hopefully lynch Snow, Lizzy, Spacedaisy, or Hedgeowl today. I know you personally think Vompattii has something and strangely enough, we have been getting along very well in this game because we typically disagree. But I feel very much you are civ in this game and I won't throw a vote on you today or anytime soon. I think the Epignosis thing is a distraction also. I'm not sure He is civ, but I don't feel he's suspicious enough to get my vote just yet either.

i hope to be more present now that our party happened this weekend. It was a success and if anyone wants to come by for tacos let me know.

Epignosis wrote:

thellama73 wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

thellama73 wrote:Thanks for finding that AP quote, Leamiteo. I missed it and am willing to view him more sympathetically in light of it. I have not been seeing the Boogs suspicion, but a lot of people I think are Civ seem pretty sure and I am tired of getting blamed for civ lynches, so if people want to vote that way and test their theory today, I will not try to stop them.

You're not very good at this.

Then why am I tied for most wins on the site.

Because you're not?

thellama73 wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

thellama73 wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

thellama73 wrote:Thanks for finding that AP quote, Leamiteo. I missed it and am willing to view him more sympathetically in light of it. I have not been seeing the Boogs suspicion, but a lot of people I think are Civ seem pretty sure and I am tired of getting blamed for civ lynches, so if people want to vote that way and test their theory today, I will not try to stop them.

You're not very good at this.

Then why am I tied for most wins on the site.

Because you're not?

I meant after this game, obviously.

Snow Dog wrote:

Captain Bunny Killer wrote:

Snow Dog wrote:RIP Vomps.

I was jailed btw.....not that anybody noticed my absence, not even boogs....thanks guys.

Wow, really? Is it true Boogs didn't notice? That's strange, since you were his top suspicion, and then he jumped on the vomps train...

linki: Boogs, you did? Did you mention it? I'm am seriously trying to be fair here.

I am pretty sure nobody mentioned my absence. Could have missed it though.

Hedgeowl wrote:i hope to be more present now that our party happened this weekend. It was a success and if anyone wants to come by for tacos let me know.

You have no idea how much I want a taco! Haven't had one since I was back in the states

Epignosis wrote: A lot of people think you're good. They don't know what they think. You've lead the lynch on two civilians. Yes- LEAD.

In these games, people with some votes get more votes. I hold you responsible for Mongoose and Vompatti dying.

But I saw you as Professor X. So let me be clear: I would be okay with lynching you simply because you are not very helpful. You lead lynches on people willy nilly. You have no reason. You just did it. So if you were taken out of the game, I don't think I would have lost anything.

Epignosis wrote:

thellama73 wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

thellama73 wrote:

thellama73 wrote:Thanks for finding that AP quote, Leamiteo. I missed it and am willing to view him more sympathetically in light of it. I have not been seeing the Boogs suspicion, but a lot of people I think are Civ seem pretty sure and I am tired of getting blamed for civ lynches, so if people want to vote that way and test their theory today, I will not try to stop them.

A lot of people think you're good. They don't know what they think. You've lead the lynch on two civilians. Yes- LEAD.

In these games, people with some votes get more votes. I hold you responsible for Mongoose and Vompatti dying.

But I saw you as Professor X. So let me be clear: I would be okay with lynching you simply because you are not very helpful. You lead lynches on people willy nilly. You have no reason. You just did it. So if you were taken out of the game, I don't think I would have lost anything.

Hedgeowl wrote:i hope to be more present now that our party happened this weekend. It was a success and if anyone wants to come by for tacos let me know.

Leamiteo wrote:Mmmm tacos! Yes please

coming right up, you like beef, chicken, or bean?

fingersplints wrote:

Hedgeowl wrote:i hope to be more present now that our party happened this weekend. It was a success and if anyone wants to come by for tacos let me know.

You have no idea how much I want a taco! Haven't had one since I was back in the states

no tacos?? I promise to eat more for you tomorrow.

thellama73 wrote:

Epignosis wrote: A lot of people think you're good. They don't know what they think. You've lead the lynch on two civilians. Yes- LEAD.

In these games, people with some votes get more votes. I hold you responsible for Mongoose and Vompatti dying.

But I saw you as Professor X. So let me be clear: I would be okay with lynching you simply because you are not very helpful. You lead lynches on people willy nilly. You have no reason. You just did it. So if you were taken out of the game, I don't think I would have lost anything.

I was successful as Professor X (survived to the end, lost due to a technicality) because I was not helpful I didn't make cases on anyone. I didn't "lead" lynches. I just talked about Morlocks. And no one even came close to lynching me, nor was I the target of NKs.

This game, I am trying my best. I don't like the Vompatti School of Mafia, even if it does work a lot of the time. I was wrong about Mongoose and I feel bad about that. I feel less bad about Vompatti, because he did nothing to try to change my mind.

I think it's ridiculous to claim that I led that lynch simply because I voted for him first. If I wanted to play it safe, I could wait until most of the votes are in and vote for zomeone with zero votes. No accountability. No you accusing me of leading lynches on people. No help for the civilians either. That's why I don't play hat way.

I vote for whom I think is bad. If other people also think that person is bad, it is not my fault, it s their fault. I was mistaken about Vompatti, but so were a lot of other people, all of whom are equally culpable and, as you put it, not very helpful.

Hedgeowl wrote: I have to say this is pretty funny. I remember accusing you of having undue influence and causing people to suspect me in WWE and leading the lynch on me. You balked and claimed that was not the case. (I was lynched too.)

This is not making me feel so warm and fuzzy on the Epister right now.

Damn embedded quotes - I deleted several

Epignosis wrote: You were not successful as Professor X. You only ever got BTSC because another player stole your power. Personally, as the host, I felt you didn't care about the role. That's fine, really, but you weren't in any sense successful.

thellama73 wrote:

Epignosis wrote: You were not successful as Professor X. You only ever got BTSC because another player stole your power. Personally, as the host, I felt you didn't care about the role. That's fine, really, but you weren't in any sense successful.

I did care about the role, but had terrible luck with my BTSC selections. Remember how oftenmy power was blocked or stolen. I consider surviving being successful. I'm sorry you think I'm such a terrible mafia player. I think it's quite a rude line of attack to take. But as I pointed out before, I have won more games than you have.

thellama73 wrote:I am comforted in the fact that if you are successful, your own logic will lead everyone to accuse you of leading a lynch on a civilian and come after you next.

thellama73 wrote:It's also satisfying to see someone so boastful of their Mafia prowess be so spectacularly wrong.

Epignosis wrote:

thellama73 wrote:

Epignosis wrote: A lot of people think you're good. They don't know what they think. You've lead the lynch on two civilians. Yes- LEAD.

In these games, people with some votes get more votes. I hold you responsible for Mongoose and Vompatti dying.

But I saw you as Professor X. So let me be clear: I would be okay with lynching you simply because you are not very helpful. You lead lynches on people willy nilly. You have no reason. You just did it. So if you were taken out of the game, I don't think I would have lost anything.

I was successful as Professor X (survived to the end, lost due to a technicality) because I was not helpful I didn't make cases on anyone. I didn't "lead" lynches. I just talked about Morlocks. And no one even came close to lynching me, nor was I the target of NKs.

This game, I am trying my best. I don't like the Vompatti School of Mafia, even if it does work a lot of the time. I was wrong about Mongoose and I feel bad about that. I feel less bad about Vompatti, because he did nothing to try to change my mind.

I think it's ridiculous to claim that I led that lynch simply because I voted for him first. If I wanted to play it safe, I could wait until most of the votes are in and vote for zomeone with zero votes. No accountability. No you accusing me of leading lynches on people. No help for the civilians either. That's why I don't play hat way.

I vote for whom I think is bad. If other people also think that person is bad, it is not my fault, it s their fault. I was mistaken about Vompatti, but so were a lot of other people, all of whom are equally culpable and, as you put it, not very helpful.

You were not successful as Professor X. You only ever got BTSC because another player stole your power. Personally, as the host, I felt you didn't care about the role. That's fine, really, but you weren't in any sense successful.

Hedgeowl wrote: I have to say this is pretty funny. I remember accusing you of having undue influence and causing people to suspect me in WWE and leading the lynch on me. You balked and claimed that was not the case. (I was lynched too.)

This is not making me feel so warm and fuzzy on the Epister right now.

Damn embedded quotes - I deleted several

I was civilian in WWE, remember?

Epignosis wrote:

thellama73 wrote:It's also satisfying to see someone so boastful of their Mafia prowess be so spectacularly wrong.

Mongoose is bad.
Vompatti is bad.

- You.

MP is bad
Eloh is bad.

-Me.

++++


I have not been boastful of any "Mafia prowess." I just got shit done.

You have been "sure" of this and that and done nothing helpful.

You're not useful, at worst. And you are dangerous at best.

Hedgeowl wrote:I do think one or more of you is bad and the more you argue the more I am convinced.

thellama73 wrote:
Why am I less helpful than these guys? Because I had the courage to express an opinion. I hate how mafia encourages coasting and punishes participation.

thellama73 wrote:

Hedgeowl wrote:I do think one or more of you is bad and the more you argue the more I am convinced.

Why would shutting up make us more likely to be good?

Boogs wrote:Yeah I will add the ones who jump on me easily because quite frankly, THAT's what baddies do and it's easy. So there's at least 6 to our knowledge left, considering none of them have been Nightkilled, I will go for SpaceDaisy simply because out of my suspects, you seemed to have livened up all of a sudden. "Did someone say my name? Oh crap let me get involved now!". I do realize Daisy you had things going on, but so did I this weekend but it didn't give two sh*ts less of people wanting to vote me out anyway. So, I just buy how you conveniently came back as you were discussed a little TOO odd. Almost as if your teammates were letting you know you were being discussed again. You seemed quick to jump on me again without ANY type of re reading this thread and actually having opinions on who you think is/could be bad, and then just "Oh guys... Well I thought Boogs was bad Day 3 which was like over a week ago so lets just blend in and vote him now! Down with the kitty!" Bull crap I am calling BS Daisy. I had a weird feeling about you from the Day 2 shenanigans.

Snow I will give a slide for my vote as he and Daisy are my top 2 targets as being bad, because he got silenced from the Wood Elf supposingly and some how that has turned into me being bad because I didn't post that I "knew he was silenced". Yes, no one SAID I knew, but the moment he comes back it's : "Omg guys! I was SiLENCED and no one cared! And omg Boogs didn't even bring it up so he HAD to have had something to do with this!!! I smell a rat!". I mean give me a fricken break SnowDog, you come back to talk and there first words out of your mouth are my name?

So Daisy it is.

I don't think it will matter again, but I'm going ahead to vote her.

Hedgeowl wrote:

thellama73 wrote:

Hedgeowl wrote:I do think one or more of you is bad and the more you argue the more I am convinced.

Why would shutting up make us more likely to be good?

Not at all, I encourage the discussion for sure, but I am wondering if it is clever distancing of teammates??

I remember you and rey during American Gods going at it as teamies and Epi arguments are not strong, but yet very forceful, so I wonder....

Epignosis wrote:
A lot of people think you're good. They don't know what they think. You've lead the lynch on two civilians. Yes- LEAD.

In these games, people with some votes get more votes. I hold you responsible for Mongoose and Vompatti dying.

But I saw you as Professor X. So let me be clear: I would be okay with lynching you simply because you are not very helpful. You lead lynches on people willy nilly. You have no reason. You just did it. So if you were taken out of the game, I don't think I would have lost anything.

Boogs wrote: Snow I will give a slide for my vote as he and Daisy are my top 2 targets as being bad, because he got silenced from the Wood Elf supposingly and some how that has turned into me being bad because I didn't post that I "knew he was silenced". Yes, no one SAID I knew, but the moment he comes back it's : "Omg guys! I was SiLENCED and no one cared! And omg Boogs didn't even bring it up so he HAD to have had something to do with this!!! I smell a rat!". I mean give me a fricken break SnowDog, you come back to talk and there first words out of your mouth are my name? .

thellama73 wrote:

Hedgeowl wrote:

thellama73 wrote:

Hedgeowl wrote:I do think one or more of you is bad and the more you argue the more I am convinced.

Why would shutting up make us more likely to be good?

Not at all, I encourage the discussion for sure, but I am wondering if it is clever distancing of teammates??

I remember you and rey during American Gods going at it as teamies and Epi arguments are not strong, but yet very forceful, so I wonder....

Well, to be fair, rey and I starting fighting before he joined my team in that game, and I just felt we had to keep it up. I assure you, I am not on the team of the guy saying he wants to lynch me because I suck at the game.

Dom wrote:why are people voting so early

Spacedaisy wrote:Dom summed up exactly why I feel so certain Boogs is bad.this is not the first time he has railed against one suspect all day just to suddenly vote someone else. It is classic Baddie bandwagoning. And he can go on about me all he wants, but I am civ. and I think that once he flips bad, a good deal of his teammates will be clear too.

Captain Bunny Killer wrote:Because they're sure or they're Boogs.

fingersplints wrote:I'm voting inh [/] A large part of me wants to vote Vomps for admitting that he has not even bothered to read the thread, but I have to stick with my stronger suspicion.

linki with a bunch of stuff but gonna post before I read anyways

Dom wrote:

Epignosis wrote:
A lot of people think you're good. They don't know what they think. You've lead the lynch on two civilians. Yes- LEAD.

In these games, people with some votes get more votes. I hold you responsible for Mongoose and Vompatti dying.

But I saw you as Professor X. So let me be clear: I would be okay with lynching you simply because you are not very helpful. You lead lynches on people willy nilly. You have no reason. You just did it. So if you were taken out of the game, I don't think I would have lost anything.

Epig, I wouldn't say Llama didn't have a reason to lynch Mongoose.

Boogs wrote: Snow I will give a slide for my vote as he and Daisy are my top 2 targets as being bad, because he got silenced from the Wood Elf supposingly and some how that has turned into me being bad because I didn't post that I "knew he was silenced". Yes, no one SAID I knew, but the moment he comes back it's : "Omg guys! I was SiLENCED and no one cared! And omg Boogs didn't even bring it up so he HAD to have had something to do with this!!! I smell a rat!". I mean give me a fricken break SnowDog, you come back to talk and there first words out of your mouth are my name? .

You add another bullet to your Snow Dog suspicion list but give him the slide AGAIN?
Look, Boogs, my suspicion of you isn't predicated on you not posting that you knew Snow Dog was silenced. It's that you hardly mentioned Snow Dog at all in that day phase, and then proceeded to vote an easy lynch target: Vompatti. That's strange for someone who went into the lynch with the attitude that Snow Dog would be your next vote.

Epig, is your case on Llama that he "led" two lynches on civilians?

thellama73 wrote:Pretty hypocritical to attack me for voting for Vompatti because I thought he was lazy and probably bad, and then vote for me for the exact same reason.

Spacedaisy wrote:Dom summed up exactly why I feel so certain Boogs is bad.this is not the first time he has railed against one suspect all day just to suddenly vote someone else. It is classic Baddie bandwagoning. And he can go on about me all he wants, but I am civ. and I think that once he flips bad, a good deal of his teammates will be clear too.

thellama73 wrote:

Captain Bunny Killer wrote: The point is that your gut vote for Vomps is a perfect and fishy cover. Vomps defended mongoose against you, and she was good. Vomps claimed you were bad, and now he's dead. It was his fault he was an easy target, but it's the baddies fault he was targeted.

Or it is the fault of civs like me who can't tell when Vomps is good or bad because he makes no effort. You don't know that any baddies even voted for Vomps (unless you are one yourself.)

Epignosis wrote:

thellama73 wrote:Pretty hypocritical to attack me for voting for Vompatti because I thought he was lazy and probably bad, and then vote for me for the exact same reason.

Vompatti's laziness and yours are two different things.

Epignosis wrote: No. It's that he's lazy.

And probably bad.