DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Wed Mar 28, 2018 12:31 pm
@timmer how many movies will we get to pick before we switch to picking actors? And the draft order is the same for the Actor Draft, a new order, or inversed?
There are 5 rounds of films, and I'll have to double check but I think 7 rounds of actors. The order is inverted for the actors, so whoever gets the first film will get the last actor.
Re: Fantasy Movie League - Draft Thread
Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2018 7:43 pm
by Ricochet
Eh fuk
Re: Fantasy Movie League - Draft Thread
Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2018 7:44 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
We should also do one round drafts for directors and producers.
Ricochet wrote: ↑Tue Apr 10, 2018 7:39 pm
It starts from 1 to 10 again, Mister 9.
Order is flipped for actors/actress draft.
Middle gets screwed. Always the problem with snake drafts!
I think the middle is the best. We don't put all our chips on one savior pick and then wait for the garbage, and we don't lose out on the biggest options either.
Re: Fantasy Movie League - Draft Thread
Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2018 8:13 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
If only this had happened last year. I would have had my first round pick on lock.
Re: Fantasy Movie League - Draft Thread
Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2018 8:25 pm
by Tangrowth
Ricochet wrote: ↑Tue Apr 10, 2018 5:11 pm
In other words, we're taking another 24 hour break?
I don't know why this comment was necessary, even if joking.
Re: Fantasy Movie League - Draft Thread
Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2018 8:26 pm
by Tangrowth
I'll take Adrift and Paradox.
Re: Fantasy Movie League - Draft Thread
Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2018 8:43 pm
by timmer
[mention]insertnamehere[/mention] is up!
Re: Fantasy Movie League - Draft Thread
Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2018 8:51 pm
by timmer
Everyone is now making their final movie picks... just a reminder, your films lock permanently onto your roster the day that their preview screenings debut. So if a film opens on a Friday but has Thursday night screenings, it locks THURSDAY morning, using North American time zones. However, until your film opens, you may dump it and replace it with any unclaimed other film that has also not yet opened.
There will be ten rounds available for actors. I say available because you may choose to leave a few spots blank and forego your later picks, if you choose. Remember, the instant one of your actors opens in ANY film after May 1st, they are locked onto your roster even if that BIG movie later in the year that you drafted them for gets pushed to 2019. So leaving a few spots blank until later may be safer than trying to fill them all and accidentally having someone lock due to a nothing film you didn't think of.
And a reminder about box office. If a film opens and only one of us has drafted an actor from it, that actor earns a box office total equal to half of the film's box office. If two of us have actors from the film, they both get the equivalent of half of the film's box office. If three of us have actors from the film, they each earn a THIRD of the box office total. f is a quarter, 5 a fifth, etc etc. So just picking someone from Jurassic World or Solo won't guarantee you a ton of box office if others also grab a bunch of actors from the film. Last year on the other site, so many people took actresses from Wonder Woman that even Gal Gadot herself only paid her studio a return of about $30 million.
Also, once the draft switches to actors, the film side of the league is officially post-draft and people can begin dropping and adding films whenever they choose. No need to wait for the actors draft to finish first. I will open a separate thread to keep track of adds and drops. I will also be making an official spreadsheet to keep track of box office returns etc. at a later date.
Re: Fantasy Movie League - Draft Thread
Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2018 8:53 pm
by DharmaHelper
M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 10, 2018 8:26 pm
I'll take Adrift and Paradox.
Re: Fantasy Movie League - Draft Thread
Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2018 8:55 pm
by DharmaHelper
timmer wrote: ↑Tue Apr 10, 2018 8:51 pm
Everyone is now making their final movie picks... just a reminder, your films lock permanently onto your roster the day that their preview screenings debut. So if a film opens on a Friday but has Thursday night screenings, it locks THURSDAY morning, using North American time zones. However, until your film opens, you may dump it and replace it with any unclaimed other film that has also not yet opened.
There will be ten rounds available for actors. I say available because you may choose to leave a few spots blank and forego your later picks, if you choose. Remember, the instant one of your actors opens in ANY film after May 1st, they are locked onto your roster even if that BIG movie later in the year that you drafted them for gets pushed to 2019. So leaving a few spots blank until later may be safer than trying to fill them all and accidentally having someone lock due to a nothing film you didn't think of.
And a reminder about box office. If a film opens and only one of us has drafted an actor from it, that actor earns a box office total equal to half of the film's box office. If two of us have actors from the film, they both get the equivalent of half of the film's box office. If three of us have actors from the film, they each earn a THIRD of the box office total. f is a quarter, 5 a fifth, etc etc. So just picking someone from Jurassic World or Solo won't guarantee you a ton of box office if others also grab a bunch of actors from the film. Last year on the other site, so many people took actresses from Wonder Woman that even Gal Gadot herself only paid her studio a return of about $30 million.
Also, once the draft switches to actors, the film side of the league is officially post-draft and people can begin dropping and adding films whenever they choose. No need to wait for the actors draft to finish first. I will open a separate thread to keep track of adds and drops. I will also be making an official spreadsheet to keep track of box office returns etc. at a later date.
"Only" 30 million.
Also, not to sound like an idiot but why target anyone in Wonder Woman apart from Chris Pine and Gal Gadot in the first place? Not like Remus Lupin is up to much these days.
Re: Fantasy Movie League - Draft Thread
Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2018 8:57 pm
by Golden
Timmer - I think we will need a post which is solely about what movies have opened, who has actors from those film, and what has locked as a result.
Also - no need to leave actor spots open - just draft Dharmahelper in to a slot, I guarantee he has nothing opening this year.
Re: Fantasy Movie League - Draft Thread
Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2018 8:59 pm
by DharmaHelper
Golden wrote: ↑Tue Apr 10, 2018 8:57 pm
Timmer - I think we will need a post which is solely about what movies have opened, who has actors from those film, and what has locked as a result.
Also - no need to leave actor spots open - just draft Dharmahelper in to a slot, I guarantee he has nothing opening this year.
Re: Fantasy Movie League - Draft Thread
Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2018 9:00 pm
by Golden
DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Tue Apr 10, 2018 8:55 pmAlso, not to sound like an idiot but why target anyone in Wonder Woman apart from Chris Pine and Gal Gadot in the first place? Not like Remus Lupin is up to much these days.
This is one of the more interesting aspects - drafting someone early because you're like 'who else would pick actors from that film' and suddenly everyone wants to draft someone just to get a piece of the pie from that one box office.
timmer wrote: ↑Tue Apr 10, 2018 8:51 pm
Everyone is now making their final movie picks... just a reminder, your films lock permanently onto your roster the day that their preview screenings debut. So if a film opens on a Friday but has Thursday night screenings, it locks THURSDAY morning, using North American time zones. However, until your film opens, you may dump it and replace it with any unclaimed other film that has also not yet opened.
There will be ten rounds available for actors. I say available because you may choose to leave a few spots blank and forego your later picks, if you choose. Remember, the instant one of your actors opens in ANY film after May 1st, they are locked onto your roster even if that BIG movie later in the year that you drafted them for gets pushed to 2019. So leaving a few spots blank until later may be safer than trying to fill them all and accidentally having someone lock due to a nothing film you didn't think of.
And a reminder about box office. If a film opens and only one of us has drafted an actor from it, that actor earns a box office total equal to half of the film's box office. If two of us have actors from the film, they both get the equivalent of half of the film's box office. If three of us have actors from the film, they each earn a THIRD of the box office total. f is a quarter, 5 a fifth, etc etc. So just picking someone from Jurassic World or Solo won't guarantee you a ton of box office if others also grab a bunch of actors from the film. Last year on the other site, so many people took actresses from Wonder Woman that even Gal Gadot herself only paid her studio a return of about $30 million.
Also, once the draft switches to actors, the film side of the league is officially post-draft and people can begin dropping and adding films whenever they choose. No need to wait for the actors draft to finish first. I will open a separate thread to keep track of adds and drops. I will also be making an official spreadsheet to keep track of box office returns etc. at a later date.
"Only" 30 million.
Also, not to sound like an idiot but why target anyone in Wonder Woman apart from Chris Pine and Gal Gadot in the first place? Not like Remus Lupin is up to much these days.
DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Tue Apr 10, 2018 8:55 pmAlso, not to sound like an idiot but why target anyone in Wonder Woman apart from Chris Pine and Gal Gadot in the first place? Not like Remus Lupin is up to much these days.
This is one of the more interesting aspects - drafting someone early because you're like 'who else would pick actors from that film' and suddenly everyone wants to draft someone just to get a piece of the pie from that one box office.
Seems a touch counterproductive to me, drilling in on actors from the same film just to drive down the box office score. Would be more effective, says I, to target actors from different films to stay healthily in the running.
Kinda like punching someone in the knee and then punching yourself in the knee vs. just running the race.
Dunno. I've got my own plan for Actors/Actresses so we'll see if I'm missing the boat here or not.
timmer wrote: ↑Tue Apr 10, 2018 8:51 pm
Everyone is now making their final movie picks... just a reminder, your films lock permanently onto your roster the day that their preview screenings debut. So if a film opens on a Friday but has Thursday night screenings, it locks THURSDAY morning, using North American time zones. However, until your film opens, you may dump it and replace it with any unclaimed other film that has also not yet opened.
There will be ten rounds available for actors. I say available because you may choose to leave a few spots blank and forego your later picks, if you choose. Remember, the instant one of your actors opens in ANY film after May 1st, they are locked onto your roster even if that BIG movie later in the year that you drafted them for gets pushed to 2019. So leaving a few spots blank until later may be safer than trying to fill them all and accidentally having someone lock due to a nothing film you didn't think of.
And a reminder about box office. If a film opens and only one of us has drafted an actor from it, that actor earns a box office total equal to half of the film's box office. If two of us have actors from the film, they both get the equivalent of half of the film's box office. If three of us have actors from the film, they each earn a THIRD of the box office total. f is a quarter, 5 a fifth, etc etc. So just picking someone from Jurassic World or Solo won't guarantee you a ton of box office if others also grab a bunch of actors from the film. Last year on the other site, so many people took actresses from Wonder Woman that even Gal Gadot herself only paid her studio a return of about $30 million.
Also, once the draft switches to actors, the film side of the league is officially post-draft and people can begin dropping and adding films whenever they choose. No need to wait for the actors draft to finish first. I will open a separate thread to keep track of adds and drops. I will also be making an official spreadsheet to keep track of box office returns etc. at a later date.
"Only" 30 million.
Also, not to sound like an idiot but why target anyone in Wonder Woman apart from Chris Pine and Gal Gadot in the first place? Not like Remus Lupin is up to much these days.
To hurt your opponents. Last year, if I drafted Gal Gadot and Golden drafted Chris Pine, you would know that each of us was in line for at LEAST $150 million each from our actors (half of the expected box office of $300 million for the sake of argument). So you would have a choice: let us each have $150 million, or grab anyone from the film, Robin Wright, whoever, and now you've not only gained a piece of Wonder Woman for yourself (with 3 actors and $300 million total, you have $100 million coming your way) but you've dropped both me and Golden from $150 down to $100 each.
but then Rico sees this happening and thinks "hey, whoa" and grabs someone ELSE from the film. Now Rico has earned $75 million (300/4 actors) and cost each of me, Golden and you a furthur $25 million as we all drop from $100 to $75.
See? You gain box office AND hurt your competition.
DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Tue Apr 10, 2018 8:55 pmAlso, not to sound like an idiot but why target anyone in Wonder Woman apart from Chris Pine and Gal Gadot in the first place? Not like Remus Lupin is up to much these days.
This is one of the more interesting aspects - drafting someone early because you're like 'who else would pick actors from that film' and suddenly everyone wants to draft someone just to get a piece of the pie from that one box office.
Seems a touch counterproductive to me, drilling in on actors from the same film just to drive down the box office score. Would be more effective, says I, to target actors from different films to stay healthily in the running.
Kinda like punching someone in the knee and then punching yourself in the knee vs. just running the race.
Dunno. I've got my own plan for Actors/Actresses so we'll see if I'm missing the boat here or not.
There is an art to the dance
Re: Fantasy Movie League - Draft Thread
Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2018 9:12 pm
by DharmaHelper
I would never hurt you guys
Re: Fantasy Movie League - Draft Thread
Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2018 9:21 pm
by insertnamehere
Old Man and the Gun
If Lowery can keep his "Ghost Story" mojo, this risk could pay off.
OTHER FILMS I WISH I COULD HAVE PICKED: Hereditary, Sorry to Bother You, The Favourite, Under the Silver Lake
Re: Fantasy Movie League - Draft Thread
Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2018 9:23 pm
by DharmaHelper
insertnamehere wrote: ↑Tue Apr 10, 2018 9:21 pm
Old Man and the Gun
If Lowery can keep his "Ghost Story" mojo, this risk could pay off.
OTHER FILMS I WISH I COULD HAVE PICKED: Hereditary, Sorry to Bother You, The Favourite, Under the Silver Lake
That's the spreadsheet that I'll be working with. I've got some work to do on it, but the framework is ready, at least.
Re: Fantasy Movie League - Draft Thread
Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2018 9:48 pm
by timmer
DH, keep in mind that the box office strategy was much more important in my other league. They had something like 14 players, and the bottom 3 got dropped at the end of the box office round, so 14 players x 10 actors meant all of the awards contenders went fast and you had a lot of room for box office maneuvering, and the jostling to not be in the bottom three was fierce. It's entirely possible that our smaller league, with only 1 team getting dropped from the box office round, may not use the tactic as much.
Re: Fantasy Movie League - Draft Thread
Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2018 9:50 pm
by DharmaHelper
timmer wrote: ↑Tue Apr 10, 2018 9:48 pm
DH, keep in mind that the box office strategy was much more important in my other league. They had something like 14 players, and the bottom 3 got dropped at the end of the box office round, so 14 players x 10 actors meant all of the awards contenders went fast and you had a lot of room for box office maneuvering, and the jostling to not be in the bottom three was fierce. It's entirely possible that our smaller league, with only 1 team getting dropped from the box office round, may not use the tactic as much.
Fair nuff boss man. I could be doing mind games and messing with you guys to get you off your game
Golden wrote: ↑Wed Apr 11, 2018 3:10 pm
Mary Poppins Returns
@Iron_Dwarf
Nooooooooo......
You were holding out for it too? It was so hard for me to sit on it until round 5, but that release date...
Re: Fantasy Movie League - Draft Thread
Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2018 5:37 pm
by dunya
i need a box office hit. there's not much hits left, i'm torn between 3 movies.
Re: Fantasy Movie League - Draft Thread
Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2018 5:38 pm
by DharmaHelper
Golden out here with the gutshot bracket busting 5th round pick. I considered Poppins for a bit, but settled against it given the release date and the other picks that were available at the time. Original plan was to take it 3rd round or so.
Re: Fantasy Movie League - Draft Thread
Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2018 5:40 pm
by Ricochet
dunya wrote: ↑Wed Apr 11, 2018 5:37 pm
i need a box office hit. there's not much hits, i'm torn between 3 movies.
Teen Titans GO to the Polls
Re: Fantasy Movie League - Draft Thread
Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2018 5:42 pm
by Golden
I'm still not 100% sure if the box office is only US domestic, or worldwide post US release.
Re: Fantasy Movie League - Draft Thread
Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2018 5:44 pm
by Ricochet
Mary Poppins Returns will score one week of Christmasy box office, probably credible enough, and will be a sure nominee at the Globes, unless it's a complete stink.
I would have not picked it, however, even at the cost of the entire competition, due to how despicable I find the notion of it even existing. There's milking every past classic in the history of cinema and there's making a sequel out of Mary Poppins. Fuck you, Hollywood.
Re: Fantasy Movie League - Draft Thread
Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2018 5:44 pm
by DharmaHelper
Golden wrote: ↑Wed Apr 11, 2018 5:42 pm
I'm still not 100% sure if the box office is only US domestic, or worldwide post US release.
Golden wrote: ↑Wed Apr 11, 2018 5:42 pm
I'm still not 100% sure if the box office is only US domestic, or worldwide post US release.
US Domestic
i.e. whoever picked MI6 is screwed
It just means I'm far less qualified to understand box office patterns since US domestic is something I never observe nor care about, but I'm just spending my time imagining that for the most part movies will scale relatively similarly.
Golden wrote: ↑Wed Apr 11, 2018 5:42 pm
I'm still not 100% sure if the box office is only US domestic, or worldwide post US release.
US Domestic
i.e. whoever picked MI6 is screwed
It just means I'm far less qualified to understand box office patterns since US domestic is something I never observe nor care about, but I'm just spending my time imagining that for the most part movies will scale relatively similarly.
you'll be mistaken. I've been studying IMDB for the last couple of weeks; movies that do well worldwide don't necessarily do well in the US surprisingly.
Re: Fantasy Movie League - Draft Thread
Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2018 6:21 pm
by Golden
I know I'll be mistaken, but I can't do much else.
Next year we should make it international box office for funsies
