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Posted: **Tue Aug 11, 2020 6:24 pm**

Carotenoid wrote: ↑Tue Aug 11, 2020 4:49 pm ColinIsCool have you played with tutuu before? How can you scumread her, she's like flowing town pureness for anyone that played with her before. Same goes for TenThousandCalories.

Alternatively:

Have we ever seen tutuu roll wolf?

Posted: **Tue Aug 11, 2020 6:45 pm**

Nutella I already have 112 as mafia. Keep up.

Posted: **Tue Aug 11, 2020 7:03 pm**

Yeah but you have me as mafia too so fix ur head

Posted: **Tue Aug 11, 2020 7:10 pm**

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Aug 11, 2020 6:24 pm
Carotenoid wrote: ↑Tue Aug 11, 2020 4:49 pm ColinIsCool have you played with tutuu before? How can you scumread her, she's like flowing town pureness for anyone that played with her before. Same goes for TenThousandCalories.
Alternatively:

Have we ever seen tutuu roll wolf?

no! and u never will!

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why is everyone scumreading 112? can you try to elaborate the meta scumread?

guy looks town to me

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i thought that nutella calling alison's posts boring was a tad bit .... hm. idk the word. perhaps a bit on the aggressive side? at least i personally wouldnt call someone else's posts boring just like that.

it made me think they're w/w and it was a distancing attempt? cuz then it makes sense for her to do that, otherwise i dont understand why would she say that to alison?

Posted: **Tue Aug 11, 2020 7:11 pm**

like it doesnt fit with nutella's persona? unless she's close friends with alison but i havent seen them act like friends before, unless it happened without me realizing? is it possible im overthinking this? but my gut just said it was a w/w post

Posted: **Tue Aug 11, 2020 7:14 pm**

i just like to drop truth bombs

Posted: **Tue Aug 11, 2020 7:15 pm**

can you show me an example of you dropping a truth bomb in a previous game similar to how u did now?

serious request, if possible

because thats very different from how i interpret my experiences with you?

Posted: **Tue Aug 11, 2020 7:23 pm**

do u have a read on proto alison?

Posted: **Tue Aug 11, 2020 7:28 pm**

proto do u hav a read on alison?

Posted: **Tue Aug 11, 2020 7:28 pm**

nvm im dumb i forgot. u said shes mafia

Posted: **Tue Aug 11, 2020 7:35 pm**

i dont feel like going digging

Posted: **Tue Aug 11, 2020 7:37 pm**

tsp probably towny for that "alternatively have we seen tutuu wolf post". i think i can tell that ive been objectively towny even tho im heavily biased in viewing myself. so i think making a post like that stems from "i wanna challenge the matriarchy"/"what happens if i push this button yolo" something something. i get similar moods to do similar stuff too.

i also was shocked at his reads, scumreading carotte and 112. i wanna say, if im right that they're both town, it probably ... makes tsp look even better? cuz why would he scumside so much as maf? but this is only if im right on 112 and carotte.

Posted: **Tue Aug 11, 2020 7:43 pm**

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Aug 11, 2020 7:03 pm Yeah but you have me as mafia too so fix ur head

Once day 1 starts I am not reading any of the posts as alignment indicative. I will reevaluate my POE based on other factors.

Posted: **Tue Aug 11, 2020 7:45 pm**

(ordered)
tutuu
amy
urist
carotte
112
tonystarkprime

(empty space)

colin (sheeping amy)

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scumreads (fuck it)
alison only with nutella if im right about that w/w post, otherwise i townread alison for non-tangible reason
nutella with alison (otherwise idk how to read nutella)
protocultures

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i was considering listing 10k calories under colin due to carotte townreading them but, i wanna holster for now

all 3 of these scumreads are ppl who ive wrongly scumread last game and they were all town, so looking at the list written like that makes me lose even more confidence, not that there was much to begin with. but. ill hold this for now

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idk about ted
macdougall - im conflicted on who to sheep, a bunch of ppl are saying he's town, but amy says he's scum. so there two cancel out in my eyes
idk about turnip head
nanook im holstering my read out of fear that ill be wrong for the 4th time in a row

Posted: **Tue Aug 11, 2020 7:54 pm**

Lively day zero fam.

Posted: **Tue Aug 11, 2020 7:58 pm**

i remember last game a bunch of ppl were saying "day 0 only for memes etc etc". its interesting how unwritten rules influence ppl. cuz like, its literally the same game, the same day, but if we arbitrarily think of day 0 as non-serious then we treat it as less serious even tho its just the first 24 hours of day 1 technically. like ive never seen someone say "wow this game sure is lively for the first 24 hours of day 1"

Posted: **Tue Aug 11, 2020 8:06 pm**

We're getting close to the zoo now. I will repeat one more time, children, that you must be respectful of the animals.
Don't pester them by knocking on screens or yelling. Just observe! Some of them might be mean if you're not careful.

Day 1 is underway. You have 48 hours to choose someone to chop. The poll indicates the exact deadline.

NOTE: please call your votes in the thread using the [VOTE: vote tag] aubergine along with voting in the poll. This will allow players to keep track of voting order since the poll alone does not do so.

Posted: **Tue Aug 11, 2020 8:06 pm**

Tutuu just tell me what you think about Nanook and if you think he’s town we’ll kill him

Posted: **Tue Aug 11, 2020 8:06 pm**

pretty sure it was Alison who was describing that sometimes they like to get scrumread at start of game and then climb out of the hole they dug for themselves as some sort of challenge. Might also be toitally mistaking that for another player. Cant 100% be sure it was alison. If it was, someone else can probably confirm it.

Open wolfing is also something Alison would do as mafia. It is also something they would need to do as actual mafia since they do it as town for balance reasons. You either dont understand this logic, or you do.

I have seen tutuu be more towny when town. She is not lock town to me at the moment. She in POE with everyone else.

No hard town reads or scumreads other than Alison atm.

Joseph prides himself on being good at mafia. He currently thinks I am mafia. Gonna omgus and lean Joseph as mafia here for scumreading me. Not as direct omgus, but more based on the fact that he should be able to read me as town. Granted I havent been very towny, but even so.

This post itself likely to get me more scumread. oh well.

Game is easier if I am scumread because when everyone pockets me as clear town, the game is harder. OMGUS to find the mafia usually isnt a terrible strategy.

Posted: **Tue Aug 11, 2020 8:06 pm**

[VOTE: Tutuu] aubergine

Posted: **Tue Aug 11, 2020 8:08 pm**

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Aug 11, 2020 8:06 pm Tutuu just tell me what you think about Nanook and if you think he’s town we’ll kill him

i thought about this tony but

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Aug 11, 2020 10:52 am if i try to outsmart myself and make a read and then manually reverse it, i just know that the end effect is that my original read would have been right and i'd end up wrong. you can't outsmart the cosmos

ive actually did this before. i was wrong on a player in 5 games in a row. i got pissed and townread him in the 6th and then reversed it and yeeted him and he ended up being town.

Posted: **Tue Aug 11, 2020 8:10 pm**

that proto post makes me doubt my scumread on him. i like the post

also im puzzled as tho why joseph is voting me

Posted: **Tue Aug 11, 2020 8:18 pm**

I don’t like meta as a tell but also our crowd of people who have lock towned themself in every game eight times in a row or whatever need to have that first scum game where they wow everyone with their capabilities and never get lock towned again

Posted: **Tue Aug 11, 2020 8:18 pm**

[VOTE: 112] aubergine

i actually don't like this vote but i crashed headfirst into the zomg paradigm when staring at the poll

will work to rectify

Posted: **Tue Aug 11, 2020 8:19 pm**

protocultures wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 1:51 am Good luck, have fun all – just checking into the game to say I am present and ready. Uh, in case anyone gets suspicious that I am not saying “look at me I am town”, here you go – its totally NAI for me as a player. I am hard to read if you haven’t played with me before, I am still sometimes hard to read if you have – suggest you sheep their reads on me for first few days if I confuse you. Does anyone know how I can keep track of daily postcount? Even on day 0, I have mafia reads on people.
(snip)

proto this was your first post in philosopher's mafia. "even on day 0, i have mafia reads on people". by saying "even" ur saying that ur acknowledging day 0 is unofficially recognized as less serious, right?

protocultures wrote: ↑Tue Aug 11, 2020 8:47 am as a reminder, day 0 is meme day and we skip night and go direct to day 1 after this, right?

so im confused about u making this post? ive talked myself into scumreading u again

if im wrong, can you explain to me why im wrong / what i am wrong about?

Posted: **Tue Aug 11, 2020 8:20 pm**

stronger v leans:
tutuu
macdougall
urist

weaker v leans:
alison
tonystarkprime
protocultures
coliniscool

everyone else is somewhere in the ballpark of null

Posted: **Tue Aug 11, 2020 8:22 pm**

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Aug 11, 2020 8:18 pm I don’t like meta as a tell but also our crowd of people who have lock towned themself in every game eight times in a row or whatever need to have that first scum game where they wow everyone with their capabilities and never get lock towned again

yes, but consider this

do you know what i tell the god of wolf rands?

Spoiler: show

Posted: **Tue Aug 11, 2020 8:22 pm**

i'm probably just gonna reread nutella's posts near eod/sometime overnight because i think i always scumread her early play regardless of alignment lol

Posted: **Tue Aug 11, 2020 8:26 pm**

Proto, your post up there weirded me out, felt like comments for the sake of comments. [VOTE: Proto] aubergine

Posted: **Tue Aug 11, 2020 8:28 pm**

i have no reason not to townread joseph now with amy reversing her read. pretty sure when someone is consensus townread by so much ppl they're spewed town by the thread itself. both correctly townread by towns and a bunch of wolves TMIng

Posted: **Tue Aug 11, 2020 8:29 pm**

idk proto seems slightly townish to me

[VOTE: 112] aubergine im just tunneling this glgl

Posted: **Tue Aug 11, 2020 8:30 pm**

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Aug 11, 2020 8:28 pm i have no reason not to townread joseph now with amy reversing her read. pretty sure when someone is consensus townread by so much ppl they're spewed town by the thread itself. both correctly townread by towns and a bunch of wolves TMIng

i don't think i ever reversed my read? my townread on mac is like... the only thing i've actually explained in-depth itg lol

Posted: **Tue Aug 11, 2020 8:32 pm**

exactly one third of the playerlist starts with T

exactly one of them is a wolf

prob turnip head

sheep this galaxy brain take

Posted: **Tue Aug 11, 2020 8:33 pm**

Amy wrote: ↑Tue Aug 11, 2020 8:30 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Aug 11, 2020 8:28 pm i have no reason not to townread joseph now with amy reversing her read. pretty sure when someone is consensus townread by so much ppl they're spewed town by the thread itself. both correctly townread by towns and a bunch of wolves TMIng
i don't think i ever reversed my read? my townread on mac is like... the only thing i've actually explained in-depth itg lol

...

Spoiler: show

amy would u believe me if i said i misread this post and i thought it said "wolfy" and not "villagery" and i spent the entire day 0 thinking u have him as a scumread, i even referenced "amy's scumread on joseph" at least 5 times by now. lol

Posted: **Tue Aug 11, 2020 8:33 pm**

Amy wrote: ↑Tue Aug 11, 2020 4:55 pm
ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Tue Aug 11, 2020 4:51 pm
Carotenoid wrote: ↑Tue Aug 11, 2020 4:49 pm ColinIsCool have you played with tutuu before? How can you scumread her, she's like flowing town pureness for anyone that played with her before. Same goes for TenThousandCalories.
Look, I don’t choose who gets what rolecard, I’m just here to tunnel and mess shit up.
unironically town

I don't really see it, is it meta based?

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Aug 11, 2020 5:21 pm
Spoiler: show

Carotenoid wrote: ↑Tue Aug 11, 2020 4:40 pm
Carotenoid wrote: ↑Tue Aug 11, 2020 4:39 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Tue Aug 11, 2020 3:27 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Aug 11, 2020 2:47 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Aug 10, 2020 11:13 pm Mafia team

112
nutella
proto

disgusting
Anyway I'm just tunnelling this until I have flips and stuff.
Why these 3? Just because they haven't spoken?

Also my early reads are that Mac, Amy and tutuu are town. I agree with Amy's towncase on Mac and her description of his meta fits with what I saw in Space Invaders. I have a 100% success rate at finding tutuu as town really early so far, so just trust me on that one.
All three of these posted when you made the post Alison, how did you miss this?
hmn wait sorry I believe it's all three of them, not of these
must have been very unmemorable posts then

Alison not noticing them feels townie, I think w!Alison is more inclined to pay closer attention to entrances & find things to nitpick

Posted: **Tue Aug 11, 2020 8:35 pm**

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Aug 11, 2020 8:33 pm
Amy wrote: ↑Tue Aug 11, 2020 8:30 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Aug 11, 2020 8:28 pm i have no reason not to townread joseph now with amy reversing her read. pretty sure when someone is consensus townread by so much ppl they're spewed town by the thread itself. both correctly townread by towns and a bunch of wolves TMIng
i don't think i ever reversed my read? my townread on mac is like... the only thing i've actually explained in-depth itg lol
...

Spoiler: show
Amy wrote: ↑Tue Aug 11, 2020 1:12 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Aug 10, 2020 11:37 pm
Urist wrote: ↑Mon Aug 10, 2020 11:21 pm broseph is lock maf for lock towning me for complimenting nickelback
I didn't lock town you because you complimented nickelback

I lock towned you because you gave zero fucks about how much you'd trigger people for complimenting nickelback
I think this is a lightly villagery Mac post.

This is borrowed meta, but: I remember early in Pyre DVC it was posited that Mac could be read off his general approach to the game; I believe the exact wording was that wolf!Mac "acts like an entertainer rather than a player". I'm ALSO aware that this is somewhat incorrect, and that Mac can easily be a performative shitposter as a villager, too.

However, consider: this is actually a somewhat nuanced read from Mac below the surface nonseriousness of it, and the super casual delivery of it makes it seem like it's no big deal. I suspect that the ACTUAL Mac meta difference is that a shitposty wolf!Mac has a lot more trouble making this read, or at least struggles to make it feel as naturally delivered as it does here.

I maybe also lean v on Urist for his half of the interaction, though I'm less confident there.

Think this probably meets my quota of giving a shit for Day 0 but we'll see.

amy would u believe me if i said i misread this post and i thought it said "wolfy" and not "villagery" and i spent the entire day 0 thinking u have him as a scumread, i even referenced "amy's scumread on joseph" at least 5 times by now. lol

...lmao

i think i must have misread your post about it, ironically enough

but yeah nah i was never scumreading him

reading is hard it's ok

Posted: **Tue Aug 11, 2020 8:35 pm**

definitely is

Posted: **Tue Aug 11, 2020 8:36 pm**

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Aug 11, 2020 8:32 pm exactly one third of the playerlist starts with T

exactly one of them is a wolf

prob turnip head

sheep this galaxy brain take

i actually think i agree that they're the wolfiest out of the T usernames

which is an odd pool to be working with, but still

Posted: **Tue Aug 11, 2020 8:37 pm**

fuck i forgot carotte on my readslist lmao

carotte is a weak v lean and would be a strong v lean if i knew what her wolfgame looked like

Posted: **Tue Aug 11, 2020 8:37 pm**

Day 1 Chop
Poll runs till Fri Aug 14, 2020 10:06 am
Please note that if you vote, your vote will be visible.

You may select 1 option

112
3
43%
Voters: nutella, Amy, TonyStarkPrime
Alison
0
No votes
Voters: None
Amy
0
No votes
Voters: None
Carotenoid
0
No votes
Voters: None
ColinIsCool
0
No votes
Voters: None
MacDougall
0
No votes
Voters: None
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
0
No votes
Voters: None
nutella
0
No votes
Voters: None
protocultures
1
14%
Voters: ColinIsCool
tedxtr
0
No votes
Voters: None
TenThousandCalories
0
No votes
Voters: None
TonyStarkPrime
0
No votes
Voters: None
Turnip Head
0
No votes
Voters: None
tutuu
1
14%
Voters: MacDougall
Urist
0
No votes
Voters: None
No chop
0
No votes
Voters: None
No vote / Unvote
0
No votes
Voters: None

Posted: **Tue Aug 11, 2020 8:38 pm**

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Aug 11, 2020 6:24 pm
Carotenoid wrote: ↑Tue Aug 11, 2020 4:49 pm ColinIsCool have you played with tutuu before? How can you scumread her, she's like flowing town pureness for anyone that played with her before. Same goes for TenThousandCalories.
Alternatively:

Have we ever seen tutuu roll wolf?

You're kinda missing the point I'm trying to make because I'm asking people that have no or limited experience with tutuu. People that don't know her meta scumreading her against the grain is probably townie, but people knowing her meta scumreading her for being the same as usual is mehh.

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Aug 11, 2020 7:45 pm (ordered)
tutuu
amy
urist
carotte
112
tonystarkprime

(empty space)

colin (sheeping amy)

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scumreads (fuck it)
alison only with nutella if im right about that w/w post, otherwise i townread alison for non-tangible reason
nutella with alison (otherwise idk how to read nutella)
protocultures

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i was considering listing 10k calories under colin due to carotte townreading them but, i wanna holster for now

all 3 of these scumreads are ppl who ive wrongly scumread last game and they were all town, so looking at the list written like that makes me lose even more confidence, not that there was much to begin with. but. ill hold this for now

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idk about ted
macdougall - im conflicted on who to sheep, a bunch of ppl are saying he's town, but amy says he's scum. so there two cancel out in my eyes
idk about turnip head
nanook im holstering my read out of fear that ill be wrong for the 4th time in a row

Wait I'm not townreading TenThousandCalories! I was asking them if they had previous experiences with you.

Posted: **Tue Aug 11, 2020 8:40 pm**

ok its beyond a shadow of a doubt confirmed now i can't read

Posted: **Tue Aug 11, 2020 8:42 pm**

haha it's okay reading is hard

Posted: **Tue Aug 11, 2020 8:42 pm**

Amy wrote: ↑Tue Aug 11, 2020 8:37 pm fuck i forgot carotte on my readslist lmao

carotte is a weak v lean and would be a strong v lean if i knew what her wolfgame looked like

[VOTE: Amy] aubergine

Posted: **Tue Aug 11, 2020 8:44 pm**

protocultures wrote: ↑Tue Aug 11, 2020 8:06 pm pretty sure it was Alison who was describing that sometimes they like to get scrumread at start of game and then climb out of the hole they dug for themselves as some sort of challenge. Might also be toitally mistaking that for another player. Cant 100% be sure it was alison. If it was, someone else can probably confirm it.

Open wolfing is also something Alison would do as mafia. It is also something they would need to do as actual mafia since they do it as town for balance reasons. You either dont understand this logic, or you do.

I have seen tutuu be more towny when town. She is not lock town to me at the moment. She in POE with everyone else.

No hard town reads or scumreads other than Alison atm.

Joseph prides himself on being good at mafia. He currently thinks I am mafia. Gonna omgus and lean Joseph as mafia here for scumreading me. Not as direct omgus, but more based on the fact that he should be able to read me as town. Granted I havent been very towny, but even so.

This post itself likely to get me more scumread. oh well.

Game is easier if I am scumread because when everyone pockets me as clear town, the game is harder. OMGUS to find the mafia usually isnt a terrible strategy.

... Is Alison a town read or a scum read?

Posted: **Tue Aug 11, 2020 8:45 pm**

Gotta stop reading posts.

Posted: **Tue Aug 11, 2020 8:46 pm**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Aug 11, 2020 8:42 pm
Amy wrote: ↑Tue Aug 11, 2020 8:37 pm fuck i forgot carotte on my readslist lmao

carotte is a weak v lean and would be a strong v lean if i knew what her wolfgame looked like
[VOTE: Amy] aubergine

are you voting people based off of their townyness, starting from the top and then moving down?

if so, your third vote should be on urist!

Posted: **Tue Aug 11, 2020 8:46 pm**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Aug 11, 2020 8:42 pm
Amy wrote: ↑Tue Aug 11, 2020 8:37 pm fuck i forgot carotte on my readslist lmao

carotte is a weak v lean and would be a strong v lean if i knew what her wolfgame looked like
[VOTE: Amy] aubergine

fair play but honestly i blame her username

i see "Carotenoid" on the poll and it doesn't quiiiiite sink in who it's talking about

Posted: **Tue Aug 11, 2020 8:48 pm**

I voted you for the second sentence. It makes no sense for you to be able to say that you'd have a strong v lean on her if you had more meta. It's bs.

Posted: **Tue Aug 11, 2020 8:50 pm**

"carotte is a weak v lean and would be a strong v lean if i knew what her wolfgame looked like, because then i wouldnt have to worry about it"

?

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