The Syndicate

robyn wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 1:59 am okay i just have to ask @LoRab do you fear god?

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 1:56 am

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Dec 05, 2023 11:20 pm S~V~S is bad. She's humouring in there like nobody's business. Setting the scene, agreeable. If I were cruder and didn't know S~V~S, she's also sucking up to Jay, possibly pocketing.

Intriguing take- I feel like I have the unique benefit of having just wolfed with her and I haven’t seen anything specific about her that is throwing off my paranoia alarm. And I’m usually paranoid of her as of the last 3 games before I wolf’ed with her.

Now do me do me

S~V~S wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 6:55 am

robyn wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 1:59 am okay i just have to ask @LoRab do you fear god?

You know she's a Rabbi, right?

S~V~S wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 7:04 am One last *?*, Bereft seems to be only addressing/alluding to Robyn and Jay, with the exception of his towny list, which was an answer to Jay, if I'm not mistaken.

I would not be able to read him if I tried, is this a normal thing for him? I don't find it to be AI, it just stuck out to me skimming his ISO.

robyn wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 7:09 am

S~V~S wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 6:55 am

robyn wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 1:59 am okay i just have to ask @LoRab do you fear god?

You know she's a Rabbi, right?

why else would i ask

S~V~S wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 7:39 am

robyn wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 7:09 am

S~V~S wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 6:55 am

robyn wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 1:59 am okay i just have to ask @LoRab do you fear god?

You know she's a Rabbi, right?

why else would i ask

I don’t know, I just wouldn’t expect someone to ask a clergy person this in a casual environment, I guess. I wasn’t trying to diss you, it was a sincere question. I wasn’t sure if you knew.

Also,rephrase that how? I thought it was fairly clear.

robyn wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 7:19 am

S~V~S wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 7:04 am One last *?*, Bereft seems to be only addressing/alluding to Robyn and Jay, with the exception of his towny list, which was an answer to Jay, if I'm not mistaken.

I would not be able to read him if I tried, is this a normal thing for him? I don't find it to be AI, it just stuck out to me skimming his ISO.

can u rephrase this

S~V~S wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 6:31 am

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Dec 05, 2023 11:20 pm S~V~S is bad. She's humouring in there like nobody's business. Setting the scene, agreeable. If I were cruder and didn't know S~V~S, she's also sucking up to Jay, possibly pocketing.

Humoring Jay? Nah. I kinda thought I was shading him a slight bit, tbh, with the call back to the game where he was bad.

How would saying jay fooled everyone as a baddie in a game, and pointing out that he was contradicting himself by being super active be "humoring" him? Poking someone with a small, soft stick =/= humoring.

S~V~S wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 7:39 am

robyn wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 7:09 am

S~V~S wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 6:55 am

robyn wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 1:59 am okay i just have to ask @LoRab do you fear god?

You know she's a Rabbi, right?

why else would i ask

I don’t know, I just wouldn’t expect someone to ask a clergy person this in a casual environment, I guess. I wasn’t trying to diss you, it was a sincere question. I wasn’t sure if you knew.

Also,rephrase that how? I thought it was fairly clear.

S~V~S wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 6:59 am

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 1:56 am

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Dec 05, 2023 11:20 pm S~V~S is bad. She's humouring in there like nobody's business. Setting the scene, agreeable. If I were cruder and didn't know S~V~S, she's also sucking up to Jay, possibly pocketing.

Intriguing take- I feel like I have the unique benefit of having just wolfed with her and I haven’t seen anything specific about her that is throwing off my paranoia alarm. And I’m usually paranoid of her as of the last 3 games before I wolf’ed with her.

Now do me do me

OK, you're freaking me out here. I don't think you've EVER said anything like this to/about me. Not the last 3 games. EVERY. GAME. Every one. You think I'm bad.

What did you take away from wolfing with me that makes you say this?

Also gotta go get ready for work. Love my new job, hate the longer commute.

robyn wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 7:46 am

robyn wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 7:19 am

S~V~S wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 7:04 am One last *?*, Bereft seems to be only addressing/alluding to Robyn and Jay, with the exception of his towny list, which was an answer to Jay, if I'm not mistaken.

I would not be able to read him if I tried, is this a normal thing for him? I don't find it to be AI, it just stuck out to me skimming his ISO.

can u rephrase this

oh you mean alluding as he's only talking about us two [it's very late], and the answer is i bet he was bored and mostly wanted to socialize, i also think we're the two people he wouldn't want to freely talk to as wolf. however this is a read i'm putting 0 value in, as in it exists and it's also entirely meaningless in regards to his alignment

robyn wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 2:18 am bereft
loreb
jjj
monroe
long con

scotty

null

thunal

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 11:40 am Abigail’s entrance is thoroughly null.

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 11:44 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 11:40 am Abigail’s entrance is thoroughly null.

To be fair, she herself has said she feels nothing

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 11:46 am

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 11:44 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 11:40 am Abigail’s entrance is thoroughly null.

To be fair, she herself has said she feels nothing

Indeed, and that is legal. But I feel nothing about her feeling nothing. Knawmsaying

LoRab wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 2:24 am Literally falling asleep and need to close the laptop before I wake up with keyboard indents on my face.

I'm still getting to know the people with whom I haven't played (or, if played once or twice, don't have a concept of how they play).

LC, I'm very much reading as civ.

J3, as well. Way too much work to go into that much detail, for it to be fake. Also, mafia often posts less than civs--because it's harder to know what to say. And also (and maybe mores) because they are spending time chatting in BTSC, and can engage in the game without posting.

Scotty reads entirely civ to me. Even though he needs to stop padding his post count. That always makes me suspish of people, although I know that isn't a tell for you. But I'm reading you as civ other than that.

I'm intrigued by Robyn. They are totally engaging with me as new to this site (to newer players). And also don't have context to read them (if we have ever played together, I need a reminder of what game).

The back and forth between Robyn and Bereft is also odd to me. Is this typical of them? I'm not suspecting them for this, but it's reading as off to me (this could also be a culture thing that developed since I was last here, so really earnestly asking).

robyn wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 1:59 am okay i just have to ask @LoRab do you fear god?

I feel like you're referencing something and I have no idea what. Or is this actually a theological question? Help! I'm way too tired to think about this.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 2:07 am Is it too early to ask everyone for their top three town reads?

No, of course not. Let’s go ahead an box in the mafia.

I am on record as not believing in contributing to such lists, or rankings. I'm not a fan and I don't generally post them. Those here who have played with me a lot can attest.

Similarly, I hate when people trust me. Stop naming me, people! And, really....I'm kind of freaked out that I'm on this site and not yet suspected. What's up with that? I don't think that has ever happened. At all on here, and rarely in prior communities.

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 11:47 am Lorab isn’t doing anything so far to make me townread her, and frankly is rather blendy in her entrance posts.

Though I don’t remember how LoRab operates. It’s been a while

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 11:49 am

LoRab wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 2:24 am Literally falling asleep and need to close the laptop before I wake up with keyboard indents on my face.

I'm still getting to know the people with whom I haven't played (or, if played once or twice, don't have a concept of how they play).

LC, I'm very much reading as civ.

J3, as well. Way too much work to go into that much detail, for it to be fake. Also, mafia often posts less than civs--because it's harder to know what to say. And also (and maybe mores) because they are spending time chatting in BTSC, and can engage in the game without posting.

Scotty reads entirely civ to me. Even though he needs to stop padding his post count. That always makes me suspish of people, although I know that isn't a tell for you. But I'm reading you as civ other than that.

I'm intrigued by Robyn. They are totally engaging with me as new to this site (to newer players). And also don't have context to read them (if we have ever played together, I need a reminder of what game).

The back and forth between Robyn and Bereft is also odd to me. Is this typical of them? I'm not suspecting them for this, but it's reading as off to me (this could also be a culture thing that developed since I was last here, so really earnestly asking).

robyn wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 1:59 am okay i just have to ask @LoRab do you fear god?

I feel like you're referencing something and I have no idea what. Or is this actually a theological question? Help! I'm way too tired to think about this.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 2:07 am Is it too early to ask everyone for their top three town reads?

No, of course not. Let’s go ahead an box in the mafia.

I am on record as not believing in contributing to such lists, or rankings. I'm not a fan and I don't generally post them. Those here who have played with me a lot can attest.

Similarly, I hate when people trust me. Stop naming me, people! And, really....I'm kind of freaked out that I'm on this site and not yet suspected. What's up with that? I don't think that has ever happened. At all on here, and rarely in prior communities.

What's normally suspicious about your style?

I think this kind of comment about finding it weird you're too trusted is >rand mafia. A lot of townies are confident in their townieness even if they are suspected often, but it's easy for mafia to assume they're suspicious.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 11:59 am If I critically assess LoRab beyond a vibe town read:

I think her aversion to being town read stems from an older Syndicate era when essentially everyone hated being town read (due to old win conditions).

Perhaps LoRab’s confidence in her town reads of LC and especially of me can be questioned. To suggest my play to that point was “too detailed to be fake” is a bit much.

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 12:21 pm Jay is such a high poster, and with not much filler, that I think inherently he tends to be town voice. Even if he’s not town lol

I think I’m slightly suspicious that I am his top town read, but that’s a me problem. I’m down to listen to his scum reads however

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 12:37 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 12:21 pm Jay is such a high poster, and with not much filler, that I think inherently he tends to be town voice. Even if he’s not town lol

I think I’m slightly suspicious that I am his top town read, but that’s a me problem. I’m down to listen to his scum reads however

I can at least expand on why. You opened by promoting my initial urge for activity and engagement given the difficulty of the setup. That is not "town" on its own, but I think you have lived up to that nicely to this point. You started by talking the talk, and so far you have walked the walk. In that way I think your play to this point has been pro-town, and I haven't taken issue with conclusions you've drawn or things you've said.

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 12:46 pm This isn’t a post for me to make you want to suspect me, I just think your reasoning here is a bit lazy by your standards

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 12:49 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 12:46 pm This isn’t a post for me to make you want to suspect me, I just think your reasoning here is a bit lazy by your standards

You were looking for Day 1 suggestions, so here's another: understand the limits of what a read can be given the stage of play, and then play within those limits. On Day 1 (particularly early Day 1), if you're looking for "good" reasons to believe anything, you're probably going to be left wanting. But you'll still have instincts. So roll with them until you decide you shouldn't. "Standards" don't really matter yet.

Or don't. That's obviously up to you.

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 1:00 pm [VOTE: Thunal] aubergine
Cu cu cachoo

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 12:59 pm I hope I get the opportunity to do some heavier analytic solving on this Day 1. I have had a solving itch lately, but I keep rolling mafia everywhere I go, and then I don't get to scratch that itch. Now's my opportunity. But for it to happen on Day 1, I need a nice healthy pile of posts (i.e., something to analyze).

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 1:02 pm When was the last time you rolled mafia? Mind if I checked it out? I thought there was a game I was speccing where I pegged you as mafia by like day 3 but I don’t remember if that was confbias or you actually were mafia

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 1:01 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 1:00 pm [VOTE: Thunal] aubergine
Cu cu cachoo

Could you indicate which of Thunal's read(s) you found half-baked?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 1:06 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 1:02 pm When was the last time you rolled mafia? Mind if I checked it out? I thought there was a game I was speccing where I pegged you as mafia by like day 3 but I don’t remember if that was confbias or you actually were mafia

Refer to the links in this post -- plenty of examples to work with. It's been both annoying and vindicating to be mafia so many times lately. I had one of my worst games ever in Philosophy 2 a couple years ago, but since then I have gone 5-0 as mafia (despite never being pleased to see the role card at first). Feels nice.

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 1:11 pm Hi!!!
I was informed this game started and I'll be here later in the day!!
Glad to play with everyone, friends and new people!!

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 1:07 pm My most recent mafia-aligned game was this one on Wintreath. It was a bit of a different beast for being low in activity though.

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 1:09 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 1:06 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 1:02 pm When was the last time you rolled mafia? Mind if I checked it out? I thought there was a game I was speccing where I pegged you as mafia by like day 3 but I don’t remember if that was confbias or you actually were mafia

Refer to the links in this post -- plenty of examples to work with. It's been both annoying and vindicating to be mafia so many times lately. I had one of my worst games ever in Philosophy 2 a couple years ago, but since then I have gone 5-0 as mafia (despite never being pleased to see the role card at first). Feels nice.

Wait- THATS RIGHT! I was just in a game with you in Don’t Starve, and would have absolutely gunned for you D2 if I didn’t get D1’d. I totally forgot about that game.

Ok ok I *can* read you.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 1:20 pm @Bereft and @robyn, each of you had expressed early faith in LoRab, and in the moment I kind of vibed with that. I'd like to dig a bit deeper though: are you able to describe what gave you confidence about her?