Re: [NIGHT 3] Fight Club Mafia - New Castle, DE
Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 5:55 pm
Aparently I can kick peoples behind too hard, and Im a pacifist
:P

Murder, Mayhem, and Mafia
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DharmaHelper wrote:Can I make a proposal?
Assuming we all survive the night, it would be in our best interests collectively to stay together. If that means we all want to move, we all move into the same new city. If we all elect to stay, so be it. But we should work together and vote together from here on out. In this way we can ensure that we do not needlessly endanger ourselves moving forward.
DharmaHelper wrote:Another thing to keep in mind is that it seems like we will be fighting people within our city (or more accurately the city we are currently in), since I'm fighting Kate. What I originally thought was that it would be city vs. city, so I'm sort of disappointed that we are guaranteed to lose someone tonight. But that also means that each of these other cities are going to be losing people.
The main reason I want to make sure we all pick a unified option is so that in the future we are not forced to fight (and therefore die) because one city has a majority rule. If we all go to the same place we have a cushion of 8 votes to give to someone NOT from our city, giving us some security when it comes to fights.
DharmaHelper wrote:So essentially we have two options I think, play defensively and stay in New Castle, or play aggressively and invade another city with the intent to force them to fight each other. Both options have drawbacks and advantages, which I will try to cover in this post (Terribly sorry if I am rambling but I want to get as much of my thoughts as I can out so that in the event I am eliminated, at least I did my best to ensure that New Castle is safe and secure and you all are well equipped moving forward.
If we stay here, we have no idea how many people from how many different cities are coming to New Castle. But we have home field advantage in that anyone who decides to come to us has no idea what to expect when they get here. We also make sure that New Castle stays in control of New Castle, and that our city (and our thread) Do not get overrun.
If we go to another city, we have no idea how many people are there or how many other city folks have the same idea, but we have at least some plan of attack and we would learn the lay of the land a bit more as opposed to if we remained here, and were therefore isolated from any of the other threads/discussions.
Therefore what I think is the best move for ALL of us is this:
We decide which city we'd like to move to, and move there en masse, leaving New Castle behind for now. Once in our new city with the 8 of us that remain after my fight with Kate, we are likely to ensure at least one person who is not from New Castle fights the next fight, if we all buckle up and vote together *(And if we all vote..cough cough)*. From there, hopefully we can press our advantage and numbers until we reach a tipping point and the fights are less of an issue.
Ideally, I would also argue that discussing an alliance with another city would be most helpful at least in this early stage of the game. 8 votes is nice, but 16 would be better.
DharmaHelper wrote:
@Bullz - I see your points, but I think that open discussion is our best course of action. We don't have access to a massive chat or btsc or anything of the like, so this is the best and only way to coordinate an effort. As you said, most likely the other cities are considering the same sort of plans and strategies, so in my mind it doesn't matter if we try to hide it or not. Everyone should know where they stand, the cards are out on the table. It would be illogical NOT to work with the people in your city at this stage in the game, and I would expect nothing less from the other cities, so I see no reason for the cloak and dagger just yet.
In regards to the City Alliance Idea, I do remember Sherlock, trust me. I would not endorse nor participate in an alliance unless we as a group were 100% sold on it and we were in considerable control of the situation. I just have to believe that at some point the suggestion of an alliance is going to come up, and would rather we not get caught behind the eight ball and fall victim to a massive push from 2 or 3 other cities.
Perhaps he is trying to appear to not play his cards close to his hand in order to attract some people who are open to simply surviving. But that alone will not work well in this game. If I happen to wind up in the same thread as him again, I am doing everything I can to end up fighting him. He's my #1 target of people in this game that I do not trust.DharmaHelper wrote: Sorry if it seems like I'm spewing guys, I'm just really interested in the game and committed to getting a good start. I'm starting to feel like I'm talking a bit too much tho so I will try and shush and get a consensus. This plan only works if we are a democracy and if everyone has a say before we reach a final decision.
This is our fight poll showing who was in the thread; only 4 of us voted, though, out of 7
Re: [POLLS] Fight Club Mafia - Delaware City, DE
Postby MovingPictures07 » Sun Jul 27, 2014 3:27:55 pm
DAY 3
Who should fight?
Poll ended at Sun Jul 27, 2014 3:24:53 pm
AceofSpaces
0
No votes
Black Rock
0
No votes
DharmaHelper
0
No votes
insertnamehere
1
insertnamehere (5) 20%
Leamiteo
1
Leamiteo (4) 20%
Nevinera
1
AceofSpaces (3) 20%
S~V~S
1
S~V~S (2) 20%
DisgruntledPorcupine's corpse! (host, injured)
1
MovingPictures07 (1) 20%
Total votes : 5
I saw her in delaware and willmington like reading at the bottom of the threadtimmer wrote:And what's with "Marla Singer" listed as a member of the site every now and then? Has anyone seen her post or do anything?
I'll probably go there tomorrow, if only to fill in my records.birdwithteeth11 wrote:Well I'm glad someone else sees what I'm seeing. Thanks llama!
And not sure about Penn's Grove yet. I have yet to travel there myself.
Nope. Also birdwithteeth, Mister Rearranger, and Roxy.S~V~S wrote:Is she the only one who has not fought?
And Hold YOUR HATS~!!!thellama73 wrote:Nope. Also birdwithteeth, Mister Rearranger, and Roxy.S~V~S wrote:Is she the only one who has not fought?
I've had a think about strategy, and I think it is in all of our best interests to spread the fghting out as much as possible. Since Project Mayhem can presumably recruit whomever they want, if too much power gets concentrated into too few hands, Project Mayhem can just recruit those people and we are done for. Here, as always, our strength is in numbers, so if we try to keep power levels fairly evenly balanced, we will be better off.
Oh yeah. I knew that. Duh.S~V~S wrote:BWT fought Day One in Delaware City
Very true. I might vote for someone who hasn't fought yet then.S~V~S wrote:And Hold YOUR HATS~!!!thellama73 wrote:Nope. Also birdwithteeth, Mister Rearranger, and Roxy.S~V~S wrote:Is she the only one who has not fought?
I've had a think about strategy, and I think it is in all of our best interests to spread the fghting out as much as possible. Since Project Mayhem can presumably recruit whomever they want, if too much power gets concentrated into too few hands, Project Mayhem can just recruit those people and we are done for. Here, as always, our strength is in numbers, so if we try to keep power levels fairly evenly balanced, we will be better off.
I agree 100%, I want to avoid concentrating the power in the hands of a few.
If there is such a hidden role mechanic, you would have a point, but frankly I doubt it and I see no evidence to suggest it. However, I guess it could be the case that concentrating power would make obvious choices for Project Mayhem to recruit and thus the police to find, but ther's one other angle you haven't considered. If a few people keep fighting and getting stringer, they will inevitably kill of more of the rest of us in the process, and that may include policemen, so I don't think it's a good idea.timmer wrote:Just to play devils advocate though wouldn't concentrating also theoretically help the police? my stance is always to let people who haven't yet fought have the chance but if they don't want to im not sure I would vote to force them . what if the police have to try not to fight for instance?
so people who haven't fought yet shout out if you want to! !
I don't want to force anyone, no, but if someone is an entry level fighter, at some point they will run into a bully, perhaps in a thread with only a few people, and they may be more likely to be forced at the hands of a power hungry person, with more levels of experience. I guess it is possible what you say about the police, but it is conjecture. I think it is in everyones best interest to fight in order to make themselves less vulnerable.timmer wrote:Just to play devils advocate though wouldn't concentrating also theoretically help the police? my stance is always to let people who haven't yet fought have the chance but if they don't want to im not sure I would vote to force them . what if the police have to try not to fight for instance?
so people who haven't fought yet shout out if you want to! !
Oh yeah! I totally forgot about that... that was Mongoose, I think? I can't find the post because it was in a different Fight Club, but Mongoose, I think it was you on day 1 had made a comment about how the hometown thing meant nothing to do. What did you mean by that?S~V~S wrote:I don't want to force anyone, no, but if someone is an entry level fighter, at some point they will run into a bully, perhaps in a thread with only a few people, and they may be more likely to be forced at the hands of a power hungry person, with more levels of experience. I guess it is possible what you say about the police, but it is conjecture. I think it is in everyones best interest to fight in order to make themselves less vulnerable.timmer wrote:Just to play devils advocate though wouldn't concentrating also theoretically help the police? my stance is always to let people who haven't yet fought have the chance but if they don't want to im not sure I would vote to force them . what if the police have to try not to fight for instance?
so people who haven't fought yet shout out if you want to! !
There is also the point that has been made that shutting people we suspect out of fights may be a good thing. That was why i asked if you still suspected someone you had said seemed to not know what was in the civvie PMs.
In my last thread we had a plan (that might have worked better if all had voted) that those that wanted to fight self voted, and the rest were deciders. In theory at least, our deciders wound up not votingMaybe we could try that?
I'm basically just saying that if someone wants to sit at level 1 and wait to die, I'm not going to waste my time with them, but that's the beauty of the poll, if you guys thick different, that person will fight whether I care or notthellama73 wrote:If there is such a hidden role mechanic, you would have a point, but frankly I doubt it and I see no evidence to suggest it. However, I guess it could be the case that concentrating power would make obvious choices for Project Mayhem to recruit and thus the police to find, but ther's one other angle you haven't considered. If a few people keep fighting and getting stringer, they will inevitably kill of more of the rest of us in the process, and that may include policemen, so I don't think it's a good idea.timmer wrote:Just to play devils advocate though wouldn't concentrating also theoretically help the police? my stance is always to let people who haven't yet fought have the chance but if they don't want to im not sure I would vote to force them . what if the police have to try not to fight for instance?
so people who haven't fought yet shout out if you want to! !
Bah! So sorry about that. I must not have updated my spreadsheet for your request to change your vote after the fact. Lol at logistics. At least that's my first (and hopefully only) permissions mistake.timmer wrote:Hmm, I guess MP forgot that I wanted to jump to Delaware City... oh, well, next time!
Done.birdwithteeth11 wrote:EBWOP: Oh wise (and recently engaged) Sockface, would you mind fixing my foolish error and correcting that quote-fail of mine? Thanks!
Yeah, I was a bit fuzzy on it but it caught my eye once I got there and I gave a shout out to the cops about it. Sorry goose, I guess it wasnt you!Roxy wrote:Idk about Mongoose but it did happen Day 1 in Wilmington and it was Hedgeowl
Yeah, I believe I shot a "What?" to him over in Wilmington after that post and I don't think he ever addressed it. :/thellama73 wrote:Just finished reading the thread. I'm amused to see that DH proposed a similar strategy to what I proposed on Day 1. Then he came over to WIlmington and immediately started attacking me for my posts. How did he not think that subterfuge would be found out?
thellama73 wrote:I'm voting for Mongoose to fight because she hasn't yet and I think it's her turn.
Are you logging in and out? You can't see this thread unless you are logged in as you. When I check the game at work where I can't leave myself logged in, its always just the signup thread at first.Mongoose wrote:Timmer, I'm not sure that was me, sug.
Also, this thread keeps disappearing and reappearing. It is often not here when I look. It's just the signup thread. I should speak to SVS. Seriously, it's not here 9/10 that I try to read the thread.
Hmm, maybe that's it. I often don't bother to log in if I don't see something new I need to respond to. Sloth is the worst.timmer wrote:Are you logging in and out? You can't see this thread unless you are logged in as you. When I check the game at work where I can't leave myself logged in, its always just the signup thread at first.Mongoose wrote:Timmer, I'm not sure that was me, sug.
Also, this thread keeps disappearing and reappearing. It is often not here when I look. It's just the signup thread. I should speak to SVS. Seriously, it's not here 9/10 that I try to read the thread.
Actually, I thought he had said Mongoose too, which is why I asked that, but now that you say Hedgeowl, I remember that now, too.Roxy wrote:Idk about Mongoose but it did happen Day 1 in Wilmington and it was Hedgeowl. llama was the one to point it out first.
I don't like the way Timmer seems to be clamoring to fight.
I have not fought and thought maybe I would now but......
Unfurl with her paranoiac theory has left me a bit fight shy tbh.
As for DH it was all I could talk about since hearing last day period that he in fact had proposed a voting bloc/us vs them thing in his own hometown then proceeded to declare someone bad/untrustworthy (llama) when he came to Wilmington.
after reading for myself I can't believe it. It really has left me feeling very untrusty of him.
SVS - you were there in Wilmington when DH made a big deal about it - what do think now after reading this thread?
This^^ Permissions are what they are, they don't fade in & out. You are in a group that can ONLY see your city, and only people in your group can see it. If you are not logged in, you can't see it.timmer wrote:Are you logging in and out? You can't see this thread unless you are logged in as you. When I check the game at work where I can't leave myself logged in, its always just the signup thread at first.Mongoose wrote:Timmer, I'm not sure that was me, sug.
Also, this thread keeps disappearing and reappearing. It is often not here when I look. It's just the signup thread. I should speak to SVS. Seriously, it's not here 9/10 that I try to read the thread.
My paranoia is what keeps me alive at timesRoxy wrote:Idk about Mongoose but it did happen Day 1 in Wilmington and it was Hedgeowl. llama was the one to point it out first.
I don't like the way Timmer seems to be clamoring to fight.
I have not fought and thought maybe I would now but......
Unfurl with her paranoiac theory has left me a bit fight shy tbh.
As for DH it was all I could talk about since hearing last day period that he in fact had proposed a voting bloc/us vs them thing in his own hometown then proceeded to declare someone bad/untrustworthy (llama) when he came to Wilmington.
after reading for myself I can't believe it. It really has left me feeling very untrusty of him.
SVS - you were there in Wilmington when DH made a big deal about it - what do think now after reading this thread?
why did you voted for her so early, if she did not actually wanted to fight, where others said they do want to fight?thellama73 wrote:Do you really want to fight me, Mongoose? You realize I just put Long Con in the hospital.