The Syndicate

I'm not going to agonize over this vote and then end up missing it. I'm voting for vomps... Hope you're bad!

I voted Nev for a 4 way tie

Elohcin wrote:I voted Nev for a 4 way tie

That's the best thing I've ever seen. Nobody else vote.

S~V~S wrote:
I am not a fan of the Nevin votes either, especially Johns. Llama is being Llama, he does this crap, I have seen him do it good & bad~ no indication of affiliation. Plus he voted before MP said he was seeking a replacement. I don't love Leas early random vote either, BUT I am a person who does not like doubting peoples RL reasons for game decisions. So if she comes back before the poll ends, that will get a big from me. otherwise, meh, we all have busy days in the summer.

I am voting for Lea. After this post, I made a few more linking her imo to DH, but i could see both sides of the story, and i kind of talked myself out of it. Then she came back, did not address any of that, but obviously read enough of the thread to give her opinion on a few posts.

Linki~ do you think he's bad, or are you just voting for him to force a tie?

This lynch is wild!

bea wrote:

thellama73 wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:Look, I can't be any clearer -- there is absolutely NO meaning to whether people may or may not have gotten a PM after a fight. Everyone should have. Regardless of alignment and regardless of whether they won or lost or whatever. If they did not, it's my fault, though nearly everyone should have received one. The only affected parties should be those who were not seriously injured and lost, and only on one particular night. The PMs specified whether the player won or lost, if they seriously injured, killed, or did not injure their opponent, and whether they won any fighting skill levels (losers did not ever gain fighting skill levels).

It says absolutely nothing about the alignment of any player who may or may not have gotten a PM or not. It was clearly my oversight because I overloaded myself with too many things to track in the first part of this game while I'm trying to get ready to move.

This should not be an issue to be discussed merely because I failed to send a PM to someone when I should have. It would also not be in anyone's best interest to lie about not receiving a PM because there is nothing of substance in a non-injured loser PM (and hence why I might have failed to send these out, since they only would have said "you lost and were not injured").

So what you're saying is, if someone didn't get a PM, they are definitely a recruit? Got it.

Of all the funny things you've said this game, this one made me spit coffee on the monitor. Thanks for that llama.

This one plus the one that proceeded it made me almost spit my drink out, but I kept strong. Llama you're on a roll!

thellama73 wrote:

Bullzeye wrote:I think it's ironic that I'm getting bandwagoned because I'm supposedly a recruit when I'd been really hoping to get recruited and never did.

Maybe you'll get recruited tomorrow! Hope springs eternal.

If you do, be sure to let us know though, okay?

linki I still have a page of reading to go for this lynch

timmer wrote:

S~V~S wrote:I thought you voted early since you would not be back when the poll ended.

Not trying to defend Leamiteo, but I've done this plenty of times, as town and scum, even in games where there was no mod punishment for missing a vote.

Roxy wrote:Iunno wtf I am doing. Or who I am gonna vote for.

I agree Bullz responses left me feeling better about him. While he is not clear for me whether he is good or bad I do think he answered my suspicion sufficiently.

Timmers thoughts are interesting and I am going to try and read it I am on the surface more interested in the fact the spaghetti pushed quickly to fight twice.

Weird that keterman didn't say one word about my previous train of thought even though I said I was watching him. Prob my post meant nothing to him I just thought it odd he said nothing.

I didn't say anything because I really could've give a damn. If you find me suspicious because of a mod error, please continue to.

I'm going with Leamiteo.

Ok, so a few thoughts on the spaghetti fighting. I know Day 1 he did not advocate to fight. Llama suggested we vote a no poster and many thought that was a good idea. Spaghetti specifically did not think that was cool, but he was selected. My other thought is that you vote to move before you know whether you won or lost, so he wouldnt have known. Plus Day 1 we didnt know the results were only posted in each thread separately.

That said, I can still see the case against Vomps for sure. However, what pings me as well is TImmer's 180.

timmer wrote:

bullzeye wrote:

timmer wrote:Day 2, in Wilmington, DH was still talking about moving groups together: "Also, what I suggest would be funny would be if BWT, myself, boogs, and whoever wins this upcoming fight all go to the same place." Also, DH and bullz voted to move together that night, heading together to DC, along with Nevinera and SVS. Only bullz lost his fight badly and had to sit out.

So I could see a connection between DH and bullz, especially because Day 2 DH mentioned that he was considering voting for bullz to fight,

DH had nothing to do with my vote on day two. Read my posts. I wanted to go to DC because I wanted to go somewhere I hadn't been and of the two options (DC and Penn) more people were talking about going to DC.

Its easy to say that. But the fact remains DH tried to help you get the fight and you followed him twice but the second move failed due to your loss. You will likely get my vote today.

He goes from likely voting Bullz at 12:45.

timmer wrote:Bullz has a point, here. In many ways this is like a Day 1, and the points I brought up about him and DH, while I feel they could be valid, aren't exactly concrete, so for people to jump on that blindly is very poor.

I'm going to look at things a bit differently now. Correct me if I'm wrong, but do we even know when DH was recruited? I've been thinking that it was night 1 when he fought, but who's to say it wasn't night 2, or 3? Everything I pointed out about Bullz is irrelevant if DH wasn't yet recruited.

So let me point something else out, that I just found that feels pingy... gimme a sec to put it together, the lack of quoting sucks.

To here saying his points on Bullz and DH are valid, but not concrete and blaming others for jumping blindly. This just doesnt sit right with me currently. So while I am torn between Vomps vs. Timmer I am voting to break that crazy tie.

Vomps

Thank goodness I still had this page open; I nearly forgot the vote! I read this thread earlier, but didn't get terribly strong feelings. However, in the past couple of games I've played, inactive people have often turned out to be bad. Both Nevinera and johns2jj have been so, and I'm not really feeling Bullz as being bad. The flyby vote on Nevinera by johns2jj pinged me when I first read the thread, so I'm gonna go with him. Not a strong feeling, but I must vote so I don't suffer Sock's consequences.

I am going to follow SVS and her case on Lea it feels strongest to me.
*votes*

Fucklinkitis - goodbye game it was fun!

I think I just missed the vote...

Roxy wrote:Fucklinkitis - goodbye game it was fun!

That's why I always cast my vote before posting about it. Who knows, maybe you won't get modkilled.

A two-way tie. Are double lynches common on this forum?

Keterman wrote:A two-way tie. Are double lynches common on this forum?

Quite so. Oftentimes we don't want to take responsibility and would rather let fate decide.

Roxy wrote:I am going to follow SVS and her case on Lea it feels strongest to me.
*votes*

You waited until literally the last minute to vote. And were planning to vote for someone who isn't a lead contender. Can I assume then that one of bulls or nevinera are bad, and you are their teammate and waited to vote in case you were needed? And once you saw you weren't, you tried to ditch your vote? Just spitballin' here.

What I'm asking is, does a two-way tie mean both top candidates get lynched or that neither do? Or is one of them chosen at random?

@Hedge, you make a fair point. I did swerve from bulls to Vomp, but it's because I noticed the Vomp stuff afterwards and bulls' replies made some sense to me.

Who deserves to die?

Poll ended at Sat Aug 02, 2014 8:52:52 pm


AceofSpaces
1
DisgruntledPorcupine (22) 3%

bea
1
Black Rock (23) 3%

birdwithteeth11
0
No votes

Black Rock
0
No votes

Boogs
0
No votes

Boomslang
0
No votes

Bullzeye
4
Kylemii (9), Dom (12), unfurl (13), birdwithteeth11 (15) 13%

Canucklehead
0
No votes

DisgruntledPorcupine 2.0
0
No votes

Dom
0
No votes

Elohcin
0
No votes

Hedgeowl
0
No votes

insertnamehere
0
No votes

JJLehto
0
No votes

johns2jj
5
Nevinera (8), Keterman (16), bea (20), Bullzeye (24), nijuukyugou (32) 16%

juliets
0
No votes

Keterman
1
Leamiteo (4) 3%

Kylemii
2
Canucklehead (17), juliets (30) 6%

Leamiteo
2
S~V~S (28), insertnamehere (29) 6%

Long Con
0
No votes

Metalmarsh89
1
Boomslang (18) 3%

Mister Rearranger
0
No votes

Mongoose
0
No votes

Nevinera
4
thellama73 (2), johns2jj (6), Vompatti (7), Elohcin (27) 13%

nijuukyugou
0
No votes

Roxy
0
No votes

Russtifinko
0
No votes

S~V~S
0
No votes

Sorsha
0
No votes

Spacedaisy
0
No votes

>SpaghettiEverywhere
1
Boogs (11) 3%

thellama73
2
Mister Rearranger (5), Long Con (14) 6%

timmer
0
No votes

unfurl
0
No votes

Vompatti
5
Russtifinko (10), timmer (21), Spacedaisy (25), Sorsha (26), Hedgeowl (31) 16%

The host for making this game so crazy! (host, dead)
3
MovingPictures07 (1), DharmaHelper (3), Epignosis (19) 9%
Total votes : 32

Keterman wrote:What I'm asking is, does a two-way tie mean both top candidates get lynched or that neither do? Or is one of them chosen at random?

It depends on the host, but its usually a random choice between the two.

Keterman wrote:What I'm asking is, does a two-way tie mean both top candidates get lynched or that neither do? Or is one of them chosen at random?

Usually someone is chosen at random, or one particular has the ability to break ties.

MovingPictures07 wrote:I will repeat:

It is in your and your team's best interest to vote this day period. So do it.

Last warning. Now no one can complain I didn't warn them.

What happens next?

I see a big post coming.

timmer wrote:

Roxy wrote:I am going to follow SVS and her case on Lea it feels strongest to me.
*votes*

You waited until literally the last minute to vote. And were planning to vote for someone who isn't a lead contender. Can I assume then that one of bulls or nevinera are bad, and you are their teammate and waited to vote in case you were needed? And once you saw you weren't, you tried to ditch your vote? Just spitballin' here.

I have to say, timmer, you've been in fine form this game. This is a very astute comment.

thellama73 wrote:

timmer wrote:

Roxy wrote:I am going to follow SVS and her case on Lea it feels strongest to me.
*votes*

You waited until literally the last minute to vote. And were planning to vote for someone who isn't a lead contender. Can I assume then that one of bulls or nevinera are bad, and you are their teammate and waited to vote in case you were needed? And once you saw you weren't, you tried to ditch your vote? Just spitballin' here.

I have to say, timmer, you've been in fine form this game. This is a very astute comment.

I'd love to be right about that. If non-voters are about to get NK-ed, it'd be nice to feel like at least 1 baddie was among the dead... hell, if non-voters get nk-ed and one of them is tyler durden this could end the game, lol.

timmer wrote:@Hedge, you make a fair point. I did swerve from bulls to Vomp, but it's because I noticed the Vomp stuff afterwards and bulls' replies made some sense to me.

I can partly understand it because readin Bullz replies so many of us felt good about him more and more. I did want to see if you were right about Vomps before I voted you, plus my vote would have been pretty useless, but who knows which way it will go now.

Keterman - it is not normal to have both people die in a tied lynch. Usually the host decides at random who dies, but it's up to the host. Some let everyone live another day.

Linki what MM said

linki omg just let an owl post plz (that'd be the funniest/saddest thing if the game ended like that timmer / )

timmer wrote:

thellama73 wrote:

timmer wrote:

Roxy wrote:I am going to follow SVS and her case on Lea it feels strongest to me.
*votes*

You waited until literally the last minute to vote. And were planning to vote for someone who isn't a lead contender. Can I assume then that one of bulls or nevinera are bad, and you are their teammate and waited to vote in case you were needed? And once you saw you weren't, you tried to ditch your vote? Just spitballin' here.

I have to say, timmer, you've been in fine form this game. This is a very astute comment.

I'd love to be right about that. If non-voters are about to get NK-ed, it'd be nice to feel like at least 1 baddie was among the dead... hell, if non-voters get nk-ed and one of them is tyler durden this could end the game, lol.

I was watching this lynch closely to see if people would rush to Bullz's aid. Although blooper and Hedge broke the tie late, I am not really getting baddie vibes from them, so I like your theory of a teammate waiting in the wings to see if they were needed.

linki: nevermind, Roxy was unrecruited.

Holy shit, that's a huge pile of awful news... and Vompatti didn't die? All of those people died but not Vompatti?? Interesting.

@MP, was the lynch a tie???

It looks like MP chose randomly between the two tie-votes, along with straight up killing every single person that didn't vote, all of which were unrecruited civilians. Holy fuck.

Sweet baby Jesus that was a bloodbath! And all unrecruited Civs Sorry, guys. I'd also like to know why the tie turned out the way it did, but something tells me that info won't be divulged just yet...

timmer wrote:Holy shit, that's a huge pile of awful news... and Vompatti didn't die? All of those people died but not Vompatti?? Interesting.

@MP, was the lynch a tie???

Indeed.

Way to say that they were "lynched" rather than "modkilled", too. Damn you MP.

Holy fuck that's a lot of civvie death

Bullzeye wrote:

Kylemii wrote:i'm going to a party that won't be over until the poll end time, so i need to vote now. i'm going with bullz.

worst case scenario, if he's an unrecruited civ then he can just replace back in for nevi.

This is really lazy. You haven't actually contributed to anything against me, just said you'd been thinking about it earlier. When exactly was this 'earlier'? We were only in the same city twice iirc, right at the beginning when only DH wanted to fight and then on day 3 when I was injured and couldn't post. Also saying it's fine to lynch a civ because I'll just replace back in sounds like you know you're wrong and are coming up with an excuse before it's proven so you can fall back onto it later. Pretty weak really.

no, it's just good strategy. the poll was leaning towards voting a player who was likely not a recruit. we've seen dead unrecruited civs replace in in the past so there is precedent for it.

i hadn't contributed anything against you because there was no motivation to do so. we were all neutral until very recently and there was no lynch mechanic.

Spacedaisy wrote:So I was thinking of it like fighting would be considered being part of fight club, but it hit me today that each of those threads were fight so anyone in them, whether they fought or not were in a fight club. I don't think the fight participants thing holds water when I realized this. It was a blonde moment, what can I say? It is interesting to think Tyler could have recruited from the fight club he was in. That would make more sense to me.

in that case would it make sense for tyler durden to be someone who might have travelled a lot?

Bullzeye wrote:I'm going to be seriously annoyed if I get lynched today over nothing. There's no connection between me and DH. I just disagreed with certain people's views on something he said, that isn't me defending him that's me having opinions. If I didn't obviously need to hold onto my vote in hope of saving myself I'd vote Kyle because his vote for me essentially says "I'm jumping onto a bandwagon, pretending to agree with it, and excusing myself from accountability when Bullz inevitably flips civ".

i'm not pretending to do anything :0 i think you may be taking more importance out of my vote than is actually there. this is basically day 1 after a long day 0 phase where some people died. i had a feeling about you. other people seemed to have a similar feeling and i had to go so i voted as such. if i had the ability to be home earlier i would have waited to vote, and if i had waited to vote, i might have voted elsewhere. but i voted early out of necessity and out of fear of whatever might happen if i'd missed the vote

Canucklehead wrote:I think the bullz bandwagon is weird, even for a Day-5-that-is-basically-Day-1 lynch. I absolutely do not get the case against him, and I will vote for someone who has voted for bullz because I have to vote now and that's the most wacky thing to me.
I'm going to vote for kylemi because he was first to jump on the bandwagon, without providing anything convincing (though that may be because he is insanified??).....so, yeah. I don't feel strongly about this vote, but I'm going to go ahead and do it anyway.

insanified? :0 ..... oh.... i was.... mildly intoxicated last night, and massively hungover today, if i seem a bit ornery in any of my posts i apologize :x

RIP civvies! Wow, so this game just got a hell of a lot smaller.

I am also disappointed we did not find out about Vomps.

If you guys still think Bullz or Vompatti are bad, I would be willing to fight either of them and try to kill them.

holy shit :0

rest in peace everyone

i'd be okay with fighting

I wish by now we at least knew what's the cause for potential death in the fights. Really even the smallest piece of information would be greatly useful in deciding who to vote for to fight, but as it is, I'm just not sure. I'm leaning towards vomps now as the next lynch candidate, but I'm not sure if him being in a fight would be a good idea. What if we wins and gets a lynchproof prize or something? Everything is speculation.

oh, we get to pick two options in this poll. Cool.

Keterman wrote:I wish by now we at least knew what's the cause for potential death in the fights. Really even the smallest piece of information would be greatly useful in deciding who to vote for to fight, but as it is, I'm just not sure. I'm leaning towards vomps now as the next lynch candidate, but I'm not sure if him being in a fight would be a good idea. What if we wins and gets a lynchproof prize or something? Everything is speculation.

I'm assuming (without much hard info) that the fights are determined by comparing the fighters' strengths, plus some kind of randomized process to introduce uncertainty, and that a final difference between fight levels determines whether the loses is injured or killed.

Wot.

thellama73 wrote:

Keterman wrote:I wish by now we at least knew what's the cause for potential death in the fights. Really even the smallest piece of information would be greatly useful in deciding who to vote for to fight, but as it is, I'm just not sure. I'm leaning towards vomps now as the next lynch candidate, but I'm not sure if him being in a fight would be a good idea. What if we wins and gets a lynchproof prize or something? Everything is speculation.

I'm assuming (without much hard info) that the fights are determined by comparing the fighters' strengths, plus some kind of randomized process to introduce uncertainty, and that a final difference between fight levels determines whether the loses is injured or killed.

I'm leaning towards agreement with you, but that's a lot of assumptions without much hard info as you admit yourself. And even accepting that this is the case, the public isn't aware of this final difference between fight levels that you speak of so we don't know who would be a wise candidate against whoever we want dead.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:I was quite literally 5 seconds late.

RIP

I want to fight.
I am a weakling, and wish to prove my manliness through physical violence. I firmly believe that my worth as a human is directly tied to my ability to physically dominate another person. Please allow me to enact my latent desires by pummeling a fellow player into a weeping, bloody husk of muddled flesh.