[FELT Mafia]: ENDGAME

[Boogs]

Rip Keterman :/ I think it's lame he got killed when he didn't even do anything. And Llama you aren't making me feel any better about you trying to accuse me of a role and say you don't care if I die since I suspect you instead of trying to change my opinion on your behavior.

Of course I care if you die. But if someone has to die, I would rather it be someone who's trying to kill me, all things being equal.

I'm hoping you covering your tracks repeatedly and getting away with these obscure type of comments catches other eyes.

[Roxy]

Rip Keterman :/ I think it's lame he got killed when he didn't even do anything. And Llama you aren't making me feel any better about you trying to accuse me of a role and say you don't care if I die since I suspect you instead of trying to change my opinion on your behavior.

Of course I care if you die. But if someone has to die, I would rather it be someone who's trying to kill me, all things being equal.

Lets share some twinkies and a rootbeer.

[thellama73]

Rip Keterman :/ I think it's lame he got killed when he didn't even do anything. And Llama you aren't making me feel any better about you trying to accuse me of a role and say you don't care if I die since I suspect you instead of trying to change my opinion on your behavior.

Of course I care if you die. But if someone has to die, I would rather it be someone who's trying to kill me, all things being equal.

Lets share some twinkies and a rootbeer.

hat sounds amazing. I'm in!

[thellama73]

Rip Keterman :/ I think it's lame he got killed when he didn't even do anything. And Llama you aren't making me feel any better about you trying to accuse me of a role and say you don't care if I die since I suspect you instead of trying to change my opinion on your behavior.

Of course I care if you die. But if someone has to die, I would rather it be someone who's trying to kill me, all things being equal.

I'm hoping you covering your tracks repeatedly and getting away with these obscure type of comments catches other eyes.

Covering my tracks> I have done quite the reverse. This has been the most forthright and honest game of mafia I have played in a long while. I'm sorry you would prefer me to conceal my true feelings and motives from you.

[Hedgeowl]

I voted for all the colors mentioned in this song.

I loved this song, so I went off-thread and wound up watching the original cartoon I assume:

[Tangrowth]

Blue Oyster Cult is awesome.

[thellama73]

Blue Oyster Cult is awesome.

They were my favorite band for a few years when I was a teenager.

[Epignosis]

Favorite song? "E.T.I. (Extra-Terrestrial Intelligence)," but not the original. This one:

[Hedgeowl]

RIP Keterman! Sucks we lynched the Big Felt Daddy Day 1!

I miss Vompernoodles

He is in a better place now.

Also, since no one has been killed, how do even know there is a baddie? Perhaps we should just wait and see what happens.

This is an interesting theory and would be quite the innovative twist, but there are baddies listed among the roles. That is the only hole I can find in your suggestion.

ture.

I hope supatown stays a thing, I like it.

Also, I'm feeling like Llama is probably a proactive civ, so I need to look over the rest to see where I stand on the board. Most players haven't made much impression so far.

A proactive Civ? All I have seen is him act unusual and try to "stir the pot" to get certain people to cause conflict. Doesn't seem Civ like behavior in the least to me. Voting for a non participant always is a bad idea if you are Civ, and considering the game started a few hours on a holiday weekend before I can check in that he says he wanted to "get us to react" etc. doesn't feel any good to me. I'm most likely giving him my vote tomorrow. I don't what proactive Civ you see in him by most of the talk here about apples and off topic being helpful. Which makes me worried about you as well to say that about Llama.

"Lynching non-participants is always a bad idea if you are civ" is not remotely true. There have been lots of baddie non-participants and lynching them is good.

Furthermore, my objective in stirring the pot was to get people talking on topic. We had no real discussion, and nothing to go on, so throwing out a few accusations to see how people reacted is a good way to get the ball rolling. When people are accused, they react, and sometimes a lot can be gleaned from their reactions. I would say it's working.

I am always this cocky, btw.

I find myself agreeing with llama's thoughts here about non-participants and pot stirring. I am also interested in how this vote went down with Keterman vs. Llama. I am feeling better and better about my llama vote, dontcha know.

I dunno, Keterman's vote seems about as argumented as Boogs', and Hedge's was pretty much random. It's possible that they're all civs. But if it's between Keterman and Llama, I'd rather vote Keterman.

I now suspect you Vomps, purely for this well structured vote reason. WHooooo are you?

I am doing school with the kiddos, finishing up laundry from our camping trip, and the kids have gymnastics at 11am. I don't have time to catch up and I won't be here to vote later so I have to do it now. I am randomizing :/. *votes keterman*

oh wow....I had no idea I was the 5th to vote him.....weird that is who came out randomly for me when so many others already voted him. May I add, I know some of you watch the thread and probably have seen me signed in for a while, but truth is, I signed in to try and catch up but have not sat down to look at the thread til now....so even though I have been signed in, I haven't had a chance to read anything.

If I didn't know better, this would sound suspicious and fidgety.

Yup, it really does in light of the fact that Keterman was lynched.

Interesting...big felt rolls had btsc with felt samples. I will go back and read to see if anyone was trying to defend Keterman.

Hmm, no defense that I saw. So, as some of you have been talking about low-posters already, I would guess Felt Samples is among them. If I were Felt Samples, I would try to speak up on behalf of my BTSC partner as much as I could without info-dumping.

Why would you go on and on about this if you are civvie? Let the poor Felt Samples live alone in peace. Why paint a "HUGE neon sign" as Roxy said on a possible civ once their btsc partner is already dead.

OK, I am feeling pretty good about my llama vote still, and am adding Vomps, and Elo to my list of possible suspicious peeps.

[Dom]

Rip Keterman :/ I think it's lame he got killed when he didn't even do anything. And Llama you aren't making me feel any better about you trying to accuse me of a role and say you don't care if I die since I suspect you instead of trying to change my opinion on your behavior.

Of course I care if you die. But if someone has to die, I would rather it be someone who's trying to kill me, all things being equal.

I'm hoping you covering your tracks repeatedly and getting away with these obscure type of comments catches other eyes.

This type of behavior really makes me suspect you, Boogs. I understand we just lynched a civvie (a big one at that), but that doesn't instantly make Llama bad. I haven't read Llama as bad in this game, and I don't see what you're seeing whatsoever. It seems to me that you want Llama to shut up. However, it contradicts other thoughts I have on you... puzzling to be sure.


Anyway, sorry for missing the vote. I intended the vote, but I certainly had a not great state of mind this morning. :/ Sorry!

[Elohcin]

Interesting...big felt rolls had btsc with felt samples. I will go back and read to see if anyone was trying to defend Keterman.

Hmm, no defense that I saw. So, as some of you have been talking about low-posters already, I would guess Felt Samples is among them. If I were Felt Samples, I would try to speak up on behalf of my BTSC partner as much as I could without info-dumping.

Why would you go on and on about this if you are civvie? Let the poor Felt Samples live alone in peace. Why paint a "HUGE neon sign" as Roxy said on a possible civ once their btsc partner is already dead.

OK, I am feeling pretty good about my llama vote still, and am adding Vomps, and Elo to my list of possible suspicious peeps.

First of all, I don't think I went on and on. Second, as a civvie with no btsc, I like to find other civies that I can trust. The only way to do this is by using what has been said in the thread. If I found someone who seemed to defend keterman, then I that player is probably one I can trust. People say, "I'm civ! I'm civ!" all the time. Does this mean they are painting a "HUGE neon sign" on themselves and saying, "kill me mafia?" No, they are trying to communicate with their fellow civs that they can be trusted. The Mafia already know who is civ. They are going to kill who they are going to kill no matter what. I think your suspicion of me for this is quite silly. I was honestly busy with schooling three children and getting as much of our lessons completed before having to leave the house at 10:20 for the older two to go to their tumbling class. I was also working on the 6 loads of laundry we dirtied up from our two-day camping trip. I honestly randomized without looking at who had already voted for who and got Keterman. But, I am done defending myself.....as I said, I think your suspicion is silly.

[Dom]

It's early to be throwing out that kind of thing isn't it? Missing a day zero vote isn't exactly a sign of being a baddie.

Bullz, did you think Llama was civvie when you said this?

Just wondering.

I wasn't saying Llama was bad in that quote was I? I was just saying he was coming off a bit too keen.

I just wanted to ensure you weren't.

I'm voting for Keterman too. Last one to check in and an opportunistic vote for me piggybacking on Boogs. Especially when I am obviously civ.

Does Keterman checking in late make him bad or his opportunistic vote? I don't see his checking in late as bad. His vote-- yes.

Neither of those things "make" him bad. The role he was assigned is the only thing that can make him good or bad. I famously like to vote for people who miss votes and don't participate, because it makes the game more fun, so that is one. Two is his vote for me, and three is the fact that I had a better chance to save myself by voting for him, since he already had a vote. Four is a hunch.

I didn't disagree with your vote. I just wanted clarification.

[Elohcin]

And technically, going on and on would mean I brought it up at least three times. I would have to have talked about it, went on about it, and then went on about it again. All I did was make an observation and then follow up with what I said I was going to look for.

[thellama73]

Second, as a civvie with no btsc, I like to find other civies that I can trust. The only way to do this is by using what has been said in the thread. If I found someone who seemed to defend keterman, then I that player is probably one I can trust.

Not true at all. Baddies have a huge incentive to defend civvies. First, they KNOW who the civvies are. Second, it makes them look good to defend someone against a misguided lynch, so they frequently do it.

It seems to me that you want Llama to shut up.

DISCUSSION SQUASHING!

[Epignosis]

Second, as a civvie with no btsc, I like to find other civies that I can trust. The only way to do this is by using what has been said in the thread. If I found someone who seemed to defend keterman, then I that player is probably one I can trust.

Not true at all. Baddies have a huge incentive to defend civvies. First, they KNOW who the civvies are. Second, it makes them look good to defend someone against a misguided lynch, so they frequently do it.

That's...um...a bad example of reading comprehension.

[thellama73]

Second, as a civvie with no btsc, I like to find other civies that I can trust. The only way to do this is by using what has been said in the thread. If I found someone who seemed to defend keterman, then I that player is probably one I can trust.

Not true at all. Baddies have a huge incentive to defend civvies. First, they KNOW who the civvies are. Second, it makes them look good to defend someone against a misguided lynch, so they frequently do it.

That's...um...a bad example of reading comprehension.

She said she would be able to trust a player who defended Keterman. I don't see any reason why that would be the case.

[Epignosis]

Second, as a civvie with no btsc, I like to find other civies that I can trust. The only way to do this is by using what has been said in the thread. If I found someone who seemed to defend keterman, then I that player is probably one I can trust.

Not true at all. Baddies have a huge incentive to defend civvies. First, they KNOW who the civvies are. Second, it makes them look good to defend someone against a misguided lynch, so they frequently do it.

That's...um...a bad example of reading comprehension.

She said she would be able to trust a player who defended Keterman. I don't see any reason why that would be the case.

A Mafia member would know who the civilians are (mostly, as there is an independent too in this one), but that doesn't mean they know what their roles are. Once a civilian BTSC role has been revealed, determining the BTSC partner to trust isn't that difficult, and it's certainly not an unreasonable path to take.

[thellama73]

Second, as a civvie with no btsc, I like to find other civies that I can trust. The only way to do this is by using what has been said in the thread. If I found someone who seemed to defend keterman, then I that player is probably one I can trust.

Not true at all. Baddies have a huge incentive to defend civvies. First, they KNOW who the civvies are. Second, it makes them look good to defend someone against a misguided lynch, so they frequently do it.

That's...um...a bad example of reading comprehension.

She said she would be able to trust a player who defended Keterman. I don't see any reason why that would be the case.

A Mafia member would know who the civilians are (mostly, as there is an independent too in this one), but that doesn't mean they know what their roles are. Once a civilian BTSC role has been revealed, determining the BTSC partner to trust isn't that difficult, and it's certainly not an unreasonable path to take.

All I'm saying is that baddies have the same incentive to defend Keterman as his BTSC partner does, only with slightly less personal emotional investment. Defending civs makes people look good, as the existence of this conversation illustrates.

[Epignosis]

All I'm saying is that baddies have the same incentive to defend Keterman as his BTSC partner does, only with slightly less personal emotional investment. Defending civs makes people look good, as the existence of this conversation illustrates.

No they don't. A BTSC duo knows his partner's role and will defend him. A Mafia member does NOT know any civilian's role. Suppose Keterman had flipped non-BTSC civilian. In that case, there's no sense in searching for a defender, and Mafia may be incriminated for defending a civilian (especially on Day 1). But in this case, there is good sense in rereading things to find Big Felt's partner.

[thellama73]

All I'm saying is that baddies have the same incentive to defend Keterman as his BTSC partner does, only with slightly less personal emotional investment. Defending civs makes people look good, as the existence of this conversation illustrates.

No they don't. A BTSC duo knows his partner's role and will defend him. A Mafia member does NOT know any civilian's role. Suppose Keterman had flipped non-BTSC civilian. In that case, there's no sense in searching for a defender, and Mafia may be incriminated for defending a civilian (especially on Day 1). But in this case, there is good sense in rereading things to find Big Felt's partner.

Disagree. I defend civs all the time as mafia. It establishes cred.

[Hedgeowl]

Interesting...big felt rolls had btsc with felt samples. I will go back and read to see if anyone was trying to defend Keterman.

Hmm, no defense that I saw. So, as some of you have been talking about low-posters already, I would guess Felt Samples is among them. If I were Felt Samples, I would try to speak up on behalf of my BTSC partner as much as I could without info-dumping.

Why would you go on and on about this if you are civvie? Let the poor Felt Samples live alone in peace. Why paint a "HUGE neon sign" as Roxy said on a possible civ once their btsc partner is already dead.

OK, I am feeling pretty good about my llama vote still, and am adding Vomps, and Elo to my list of possible suspicious peeps.

First of all, I don't think I went on and on. Second, as a civvie with no btsc, I like to find other civies that I can trust. The only way to do this is by using what has been said in the thread. If I found someone who seemed to defend keterman, then I that player is probably one I can trust. People say, "I'm civ! I'm civ!" all the time. Does this mean they are painting a "HUGE neon sign" on themselves and saying, "kill me mafia?" No, they are trying to communicate with their fellow civs that they can be trusted. The Mafia already know who is civ. They are going to kill who they are going to kill no matter what. I think your suspicion of me for this is quite silly. I was honestly busy with schooling three children and getting as much of our lessons completed before having to leave the house at 10:20 for the older two to go to their tumbling class. I was also working on the 6 loads of laundry we dirtied up from our two-day camping trip. I honestly randomized without looking at who had already voted for who and got Keterman. But, I am done defending myself.....as I said, I think your suspicion is silly.

I think you are 100% right about identifying civvies if possible in thread for oneself, but as a civ usually I would keep that info to myself, unless someone was about to be lynched, as you noted about why would no one jumped to Keterman's defense when they should have. I didn't mean to come across harshly, I was excited I finally had time for mafia now that we are home too. It just seems a really odd thing to do and point out in thread for others to note. Maybe that makes you more likely civ, because baddies would do it behind the scenes, but it struck me as odd. As llama is getting accused of with Boogs, known civs are NK'd often, because they are useless for lynches for baddies. So keeping a civ btsc partner's identity secret seems like a really good idea to me.

[Epignosis]

All I'm saying is that baddies have the same incentive to defend Keterman as his BTSC partner does, only with slightly less personal emotional investment. Defending civs makes people look good, as the existence of this conversation illustrates.

No they don't. A BTSC duo knows his partner's role and will defend him. A Mafia member does NOT know any civilian's role. Suppose Keterman had flipped non-BTSC civilian. In that case, there's no sense in searching for a defender, and Mafia may be incriminated for defending a civilian (especially on Day 1). But in this case, there is good sense in rereading things to find Big Felt's partner.

Disagree. I defend civs all the time as mafia. It establishes cred.

Not the same thing as defending a civilian you know will come up a BTSC partner. Surely you must see the difference in the two scenarios.

[thellama73]

But Hedge, you act as if a lack of known civs would prevent any nightkills from happening. That's not the case. Someone is going to be nightkilled. What does it matter whether it's boogs or someone who is not a known civ?

linki: I see all differences.

[Hedgeowl]

But Hedge, you act as if a lack of known civs would prevent any nightkills from happening. That's not the case. Someone is going to be nightkilled. What does it matter whether it's boogs or someone who is not a known civ?

linki: I see all differences.

Somehow I missed all the linki while responding to Elo. You are talking about a useful baddie tactic of defending civs as a baddie, knowing they are civs. Elo is talking about now after the fact, that we can possibly discern another civ role since we know Keterman had a btsc partner. Both of of these opinions are valid and unrelated.

I absolutely do not believe that a lack of known civs would prevent night kills. that would be silly and I am only silly some of the time. What I am disputing is that it is not very civ-friendly to go around painting targets on specific civs backs saying well they are definitely civ, yup, that's a civ right there, wow look at that civvie civ civ. Granted, you have been particularly candid about your motivation to do so in regards to Boogs.

[Epignosis]

But Hedge, you act as if a lack of known civs would prevent any nightkills from happening. That's not the case. Someone is going to be nightkilled. What does it matter whether it's boogs or someone who is not a known civ?

linki: I see all differences.

Somehow I missed all the linki while responding to Elo. You are talking about a useful baddie tactic of defending civs as a baddie, knowing they are civs. Elo is talking about now after the fact, that we can possibly discern another civ role since we know Keterman had a btsc partner. Both of of these opinions are valid and unrelated.

I absolutely do not believe that a lack of known civs would prevent night kills. that would be silly and I am only silly some of the time. What I am disputing is that it is not very civ-friendly to go around painting targets on specific civs backs saying well they are definitely civ, yup, that's a civ right there, wow look at that civvie civ civ. Granted, you have been particularly candid about your motivation to do so in regards to Boogs.

It's a one Mafia game. There is no painting targets on any backs. Can't happen.

[thellama73]

What I am disputing is that it is not very civ-friendly to go around painting targets on specific civs backs saying well they are definitely civ, yup, that's a civ right there, wow look at that civvie civ civ. Granted, you have been particularly candid about your motivation to do so in regards to Boogs.

I don't see how it is not civ friendly. It is not friendly to that PARTICULAR civ, but I don't see how it harms the civs as a whole.

[Epignosis]

I don't see how it is not civ friendly. It is not friendly to that PARTICULAR civ, but I don't see how it harms the civs as a whole.

Good God, man, I thought you were a Libertarian.

[thellama73]

Basically, what Hedge is claiming (which I don;t think is true, but she does so let's roll with it) is that I have the power to choose who gets NKed through the mechanism of "painting targets." I would rather have that power than leave it to the baddies, yes. I see nothing odd about that.

[Hedgeowl]

But Hedge, you act as if a lack of known civs would prevent any nightkills from happening. That's not the case. Someone is going to be nightkilled. What does it matter whether it's boogs or someone who is not a known civ?

linki: I see all differences.

Somehow I missed all the linki while responding to Elo. You are talking about a useful baddie tactic of defending civs as a baddie, knowing they are civs. Elo is talking about now after the fact, that we can possibly discern another civ role since we know Keterman had a btsc partner. Both of of these opinions are valid and unrelated.

I absolutely do not believe that a lack of known civs would prevent night kills. that would be silly and I am only silly some of the time. What I am disputing is that it is not very civ-friendly to go around painting targets on specific civs backs saying well they are definitely civ, yup, that's a civ right there, wow look at that civvie civ civ. Granted, you have been particularly candid about your motivation to do so in regards to Boogs.

It's a one Mafia game. There is no painting targets on any backs. Can't happen.

Sure it can. If someone is role outed/hinted etc. even if by another civ, it can be a problem. Since there is another btsc pair in this game for example. I am not sure I'd feel comfortable in their shoes defending one another if possibly lynched, since everyone is now so focused on that aspect and it reveals definite civs to other civs, making it easier to find out the baddies. plus, in this game isnt there an SK that recruit the puppets?

LInki thats a little stronger than I was putting it, but whatevs.

[thellama73]

plus, in this game isnt there an SK that recruit the puppets?

So you're saying we should paint targets on the puppets and get them NKed so they can't be recruited? Bold move, Hedge. Bold move.

[Epignosis]

"Painting targets" implies that Mafia cannot read or reason for themselves. Furthermore, the major flaw in the "painting targets" criticism is twofold:

First, Mafia don't want to take out a pissy civilian role who lost his or her BTSC partner to a Day 1 lynch. Unless the Mafia bungles it, that role is SAFE.

Second, Mafia would prefer to take out their direct competition, like an independent.

Generally, Mafia like taking out me as early as possible. I don't blame them.

[Boogs]

Llama if you are Civ, you would want to keep all Civs alive. Not try to accuse players of Civ roles and let them die because you feel your role is more important or whatever the case may be. I don't understand how you think I'm keterman's partner, but okay. But by you trying to make it look like I am and saying it's okay for me to die isn't cool. I just think you're acting like you're caring less who dies because you're bad and know that you it won't be you, or you are Indy and want us to die for your personal agenda to win. You are NOT playing a Civ friendly game which is why I'm wanting to vote you out. It's been Day 0 and rolling now. People defending you and not seeing this or thinking you are Civ it making me MORE worried they're acting Civ themselves to make sure their Baddie Llama teammate stays out of discussion for votes. So I highly doubt you're dying tonight because your teammates wouldn't do that to a member of their group. I also want to point out Keterman's role said secrets, so I hope this doesn't have anything to do with him or his teammate being recruited and you just threw that out in the open and gained the baddies another partner. I'm just saying.

[thellama73]

Llama if you are Civ, you would want to keep all Civs alive.

How do you propose I do that? Is my not saying anything going to stop NKs from happening?

[Hedgeowl]

"Painting targets" implies that Mafia cannot read or reason for themselves. Furthermore, the major flaw in the "painting targets" criticism is twofold:

First, Mafia don't want to take out a pissy civilian role who lost his or her BTSC partner to a Day 1 lynch. Unless the Mafia bungles it, that role is SAFE.

Second, Mafia would prefer to take out their direct competition, like an independent.

Generally, Mafia like taking out me as early as possible. I don't blame them.

Someone called someone else cocky in this game. Who was that?

plus, in this game isnt there an SK that recruit the puppets?

So you're saying we should paint targets on the puppets and get them NKed so they can't be recruited? Bold move, Hedge. Bold move.

:throwsinthetowel:

[Dom]

Llama if you are Civ, you would want to keep all Civs alive. Not try to accuse players of Civ roles and let them die because you feel your role is more important or whatever the case may be. I don't understand how you think I'm keterman's partner, but okay. But by you trying to make it look like I am and saying it's okay for me to die isn't cool. I just think you're acting like you're caring less who dies because you're bad and know that you it won't be you, or you are Indy and want us to die for your personal agenda to win. You are NOT playing a Civ friendly game which is why I'm wanting to vote you out. It's been Day 0 and rolling now. People defending you and not seeing this or thinking you are Civ it making me MORE worried they're acting Civ themselves to make sure their Baddie Llama teammate stays out of discussion for votes. So I highly doubt you're dying tonight because your teammates wouldn't do that to a member of their group. I also want to point out Keterman's role said secrets, so I hope this doesn't have anything to do with him or his teammate being recruited and you just threw that out in the open and gained the baddies another partner. I'm just saying.

boogs... do you really not understand why llama thinks you might be keterman's partner?

[Elohcin]

Interesting...big felt rolls had btsc with felt samples. I will go back and read to see if anyone was trying to defend Keterman.

Hmm, no defense that I saw. So, as some of you have been talking about low-posters already, I would guess Felt Samples is among them. If I were Felt Samples, I would try to speak up on behalf of my BTSC partner as much as I could without info-dumping.

Why would you go on and on about this if you are civvie? Let the poor Felt Samples live alone in peace. Why paint a "HUGE neon sign" as Roxy said on a possible civ once their btsc partner is already dead.

OK, I am feeling pretty good about my llama vote still, and am adding Vomps, and Elo to my list of possible suspicious peeps.

First of all, I don't think I went on and on. Second, as a civvie with no btsc, I like to find other civies that I can trust. The only way to do this is by using what has been said in the thread. If I found someone who seemed to defend keterman, then I that player is probably one I can trust. People say, "I'm civ! I'm civ!" all the time. Does this mean they are painting a "HUGE neon sign" on themselves and saying, "kill me mafia?" No, they are trying to communicate with their fellow civs that they can be trusted. The Mafia already know who is civ. They are going to kill who they are going to kill no matter what. I think your suspicion of me for this is quite silly. I was honestly busy with schooling three children and getting as much of our lessons completed before having to leave the house at 10:20 for the older two to go to their tumbling class. I was also working on the 6 loads of laundry we dirtied up from our two-day camping trip. I honestly randomized without looking at who had already voted for who and got Keterman. But, I am done defending myself.....as I said, I think your suspicion is silly.

I think you are 100% right about identifying civvies if possible in thread for oneself, but as a civ usually I would keep that info to myself, unless someone was about to be lynched, as you noted about why would no one jumped to Keterman's defense when they should have. I didn't mean to come across harshly, I was excited I finally had time for mafia now that we are home too. It just seems a really odd thing to do and point out in thread for others to note. Maybe that makes you more likely civ, because baddies would do it behind the scenes, but it struck me as odd. As llama is getting accused of with Boogs, known civs are NK'd often, because they are useless for lynches for baddies. So keeping a civ btsc partner's identity secret seems like a really good idea to me.

I just try to play openly and honestly. I thought my post would be helpful to the civs so I wrote it. That is all.

[bea]

I went with blue. Like TARDIS blue. Hint hint.

[DFaraday]

I'm voting green. I'm a traditionalist.

[Mongoose]

Under 90 mins left til showtime, so get those night actions in!

[sabie12]

I just thought about if I made a blanket what colors would I choose and I went with that. Not that I'm skilled at all at crafts. Wish I was though.

[thellama73]

I just thought about if I made a blanket what colors would I choose and I went with that. Not that I'm skilled at all at crafts. Wish I was though.

Hi Sabie!

I have a question for you.

Are you bad?

[bea]

Hi Sabie!

Follow up to llama's question:

If you are not bad, who do you think is?
If you are bad, who are your teammates?

[Mongoose]

Updated rules to reflect a conventional "No double targeting" policy we usually enforce here at TS.

[Mongoose]

Night 1: Citizen Can't

"In Xanadu did Kubla Khan
A stately pleasure-dome decree"

- as quoted in the motion picture Citizen Kane (1941), from the Samuel Taylor Coleridge poem "Kubla Khan"



Bea was puzzling over the clues. Keterman had been good after all. The crew needed to redeem themselves.

Suddenly, a paper airplane zipped into the conference room. thellama73 jumped and caught it.

"What does it say?" asked Roxy, peering over this shoulder.

"Ooh, it's a clue," whispered Hedgeowl.

"Looks like the ruins of Xanadu or Shangdu...isn't that in the Inner Mongolia Autonomous Region?" mused Epignosis.

"Inner Mongolia, officially Inner Mongolia Autonomous Region or Nei Mongol Autonomous Region, is an autonomous region of the People's Republic of China, located in the north of the country, bordering Mongolia and Russia," stated Vomps helpfully.

"Due to transportation worker strikes, it's going to be a bit difficult to get from here to there," said Elohcin. "Hmm, we could take trains?"

"Nice, we can take the Darjeeling Limited to get partway there, stated Bullzeye.



"Like the film of the same name with Jason Schwartman and Owen Wilson?" asked DFaraday.

"I don't know who any of those people are," shrugged A Person.

"I feel a song coming on," said Boogs.

"You people are legit crazy," said Sabie12, curious about who she had been lumped in with on this journey.



Everyone boarded the train and enjoyed an acutely-crafted dance number. While drinking their chai, Mister Rearranger noticed that Bea was missing.

"I think she must have fallen to her death somewhere along the route," he said.

"Look at these clawmarks on the side of the train. She was pushed," Sabie pointed out.

bea has died.

It is now Day 2. You have 24 hours to find where bea was killed.

[Mongoose]

Contest: Guess Which Fedora?



Ghost Ferret has put forth a challenge. To appease his restless spirit, you must create a hat using only:

a) the materials you selected in the Day 0 poll; and
b) the colors you selected in the Night 1 poll.

This contest is entirely optional, but there will be some pretty sweet prizes for the winners.

The hat you design need not be a fedora. It can be any (art) medium of your choice, whether digital or a photograph (if you really rise to the challenge and physically create the hat).

You have until the end of Night 2 (not Day 2) to enter your submission. If possible, send me your submission as an imgur image, so that Ghost Ferret won't know which players submitted which hats.

[Mongoose]

Night 2 Poll:

What is the best color of felt? (Choose as many as apply)

Poll runs till Wed Sep 03, 2014 12:24:21 pm


Red
3
Bullzeye (3), thellama73 (11), Made (36) 5%
Orange
5
Bullzeye (4), thellama73 (13), Vompatti (20), Mister Rearranger (35), Hedgeowl (52) 8%
Yellow
4
Bullzeye (6), thellama73 (14), Made (39), Hedgeowl (53) 7%
Green
8
Bullzeye (7), thellama73 (12), Vompatti (21), Epignosis (24), sabie12 (34), Hedgeowl (48), Dom (57), DFaraday (60) 13%
Blue
9
Bullzeye (10), thellama73 (16), Epignosis (25), sabie12 (33), A Person (43), Boogs (45), Hedgeowl (49), Dom (58), bea (59) 15%
Purple
4
Bullzeye (9), thellama73 (17), Epignosis (26), sabie12 (32) 7%
Pink
4
Bullzeye (8), Vompatti (22), A Person (42), Dom (56) 7%
White
2
Made (37), A Person (41) 3%
Gray
1
Epignosis (27) 2%
Black
3
Vompatti (23), Epignosis (28), sabie12 (31) 5%
Brown
1
Made (38) 2%
Tan
1
Epignosis (29) 2%
Beige
2
thellama73 (15), Dom (55) 3%
Turquoise
5
Vompatti (19), Epignosis (30), Elohcin (44), Boogs (46), Hedgeowl (50) 8%
Rainbow
5
Roxy (2), Bullzeye (5), A Person (40), Boogs (47), Hedgeowl (51) 8%
BLUE Oyster Cult (Mod/Host/NPs/Deadies/Ferrets/Etc)
3
S~V~S (1), Mongoose (18), MovingPictures07 (54) 5%

[bea]

poo! I always die so early now in these smaller games.

Quick!!! Appease my restless spirit!!! Sign-up for Dr. Who mafia!!!

[Mongoose]

The lynch poll is now up and the poll thread has been updated.

[Marmot]

[Bullzeye]

Hopefully we crazy. RIP Bea! Hopefully we crazy. RIP Bea! Hopefully we crazy. RIP Bea! Hopefully we can avenge you! This driving me can avenge you! This game is driving me is driving me can avenge you! This game can avenge you! This driving me is driving me is game can avenge you! This driving me can avenge you! This game can avenge you! This driving me is game is driving me can avenge you! This driving me is driving me can avenge you! This driving me can avenge you! This driving me is driving me is