The Syndicate

"posse"? Wow mega hyperbole you got going there Matt. None of the particularly standout to me one way or the other.

Are you willing to share thoughts on any players I didn't name?

Or are we just tunneling me to the very end?

I am not tunneling you. I never was. But you keep poking so Ihave no chance to forget you.

It was a day one ping. You're the one tunnelling. Jeez.

How am I tunneling? I'm in defense mode over here. I'm trying to get your thoughts on other players who've voted me so if I get lynched Day 2, town has some idea on your thoughts of the other voters. This is ridic, I'm still not entirely sure what your case is. First it was because it was jokey, then because it was serious? It is understood that my joke sus and real sus of Bullz are completely independent of each other, right? You never gave me a straight answer on when I'd be allowed to sus Bullz after my initial joke vote btw. Probably because you realized there is no such time constriction on finding players suspicious?

Can you at least admit you could be wrong and please note that you do go after me in every game we play.

I would have dropped this already you're the one making a molehill into fucking Everest. Or trying to make it sound like it was personal.

I voted for you for a ping. Get over it an move on.

I think I meant to say time restriction.

Time constriction. Lol

That was weird, I didn't see SVS' post when I clicked in and there was no linki when I posted.

SVS - When I was the other primary lynch candidate and the actual lynched turns up civvie, I need to engage to try and change minds. How do I do that without asking you stuff?

Anyway, I'm out. Time to watch Clone Wars. Fyi as usual, I'm having a blast SVS, hope you are too! I think you da bomb even if you do want to destroy me.

Bye DFaraday. He fell off a cliff in a plane. But good news! The plane had dozens of little Virgin Mary statues! Isn't that neat?

Matt wrote:Derp.

This standstill we got feels anticlimactic. Someone NK one of us, that would make it better!

SVS - Assuming I no longer exist, what are your feelings on Bullz, Zebra, Sorsha, and Floyd? I'd like to know your thoughts on that "lynch Matt" posse you got goin'.

Matt. M8. Buddy, old pal. You're crawling around like a worm. And let's be real, you're not being NK'd tonight. That would be ludicrous. Why would mafia want you dead?

Does anyone know Matt's playstyle? Does he normally spew unprovoked noises like a little yippy pomeranian?

a2thezebra wrote:Nope, one of those Day 1 wagons was bad. And we now know who that was.

I don't think this is a proper conclusion. In actuality, wouldn't it make more sense that at one point, 1 or 2 mafia members had 2 votes on them and the votes slowly moved away from them? We had a 5 WAY TIE earlier, apparently, which is...impressive to say the least.

I want to look at the vote changes after the 2 way vote and see if I can identify any patterns. It's day 1, however, and no one but mafia knows shit on day 1. But I'd be willing to bet money that a mafia member was steering votes away from one of them.

@Wilgy I saw that you were looking to change to zebra, but I assume you didn't want to leave the train that was building. Are you still suspicious about Zebra?

Whoops, sorry, I kinda forgot about this game today.
RIP DF. I've caught up but I don't really get all the hullabaloo between him and Matt and as usual I'm really not taking anything away from Day 1 nonsense. There's really no way to glean much of anything from that, and if anything I'd lean towards thinking the people getting more involved in the discussion are not the baddies.

Epignosis wrote:I'm votin for my spottieottiedopaliscious nutella. Damn damn damn damn.

????? What even

Yeah, sorry I've been under the radar so far, but I didn't really have any thoughts yesterday since it was just getting started and I didn't remember to catch up until after the lynch. (I'll be gone all day tomorrow too but it'll be night so hopefully I won't miss as much discussion) otherwise I'll try to pay more attention and start to form some thoughts on day 2. Honestly even though my vote for Floyd was pretty pseudo-random I wouldn't mind pursuing him a bit since he also seems to have remained pretty under-the-radar.

@Scotty, yeh

nutella wrote:

Epignosis wrote:I'm votin for my spottieottiedopaliscious nutella. Damn damn damn damn.

????? What even

Found a CD Player on the island and somebody on that plane had good taste. Not what I grew up listening to, but beggars can't be choosy.

How do you KNOW that one of the two Day 1 lynch guys was bad, Zebra?

RIP DF, I'm sorry. I was only doing what the Island demanded.

Long Con wrote:How do you KNOW that one of the two Day 1 lynch guys was bad, Zebra?

RIP DF, I'm sorry. I was only doing what the Island demanded.

I never said I knew, I just feel that it's highly likely. If I didn't, I would've kept my vote on DrWilgy yesterday and not even bothered switching to one of the two main lynch wagons. Scotty notes that it was a 5-way tie earlier that day, but to me the key word there is "earlier." I think the day ending with two very distinguished lynch options is indicative that one of them was saved and the other, rest his soul.

Are you suspicious of anything Matt has done Zebra, or is it just that he also had a lot of votes?

I gave him too many free passes. I was afraid of suspecting him before due to my previous failures in properly reading him.

That's not really an answer

Yes, it is.

Your thought processes do not make a lot of sense to me then. Can you see why I think that atleast?

Yes, but this is the best answer I can give.

I cast the deciding vote on DF. Does that mean I saved Matt intentionally?

Zeebs is baddie baddorino

I'd like to hear more from Epi.

He hasn't made a case yet that made me go "wtf have you been smoking today" and it's almost Day 2.

I'm having a bit of trouble keeping track of who voted who and when. I just don't have the time today. But I will probably have to start a spreadsheet with how often some of you people are changing your votes.

nutella wrote: I'd lean towards thinking the people getting more involved in the discussion are not the baddies.

Yeah, sorry I've been under the radar so far, but I didn't really have any thoughts yesterday...

Honestly even though my vote for Floyd was pretty pseudo-random I wouldn't mind pursuing him a bit since he also seems to have remained pretty under-the-radar.

That kettle's pretty black, ain't it m8?

I changed my vote once yesterday, from DrWilgy to DFaraday.

Zeebs, I'm not bad dudette. Nobody saved me to my knowledge, and if they did, it's one of two possibilities...

a) Someone who voted DF is a cop, got a good guy check at the beginning, and got me.

b) There are baddies in the DF voters who intentionally "saved" me only to get me lynched the next day.

Or

c) Bullz is bad, let's get 'em! (and SVS, too!)

So three possibilities. But you forgot the fourth one...

d) You're bad.

Night one has ended


It is now day two. You have 48 hours to find someone who wasn't on the plane.

Kiwi's speaking my kind of language.

:yawn:

Are you going to try and convince other people to vote Matt Zebra? Would you be willing to talk about other people?

Nutella's vote on Day One was pretty much purposeless and Zebra having very split ended comments are both scum-like.

I also wonder wether Matt is using the same technique on Bullz that Epi used on me in that Tree game.

Typhoony wrote:Are you going to try and convince other people to vote Matt Zebra? Would you be willing to talk about other people?

Yes to both.

TheFloyd73 wrote: I also wonder wether Matt is using the same technique on Bullz that Epi used on me in that Tree game.

What technique?

*Voting Matt*. I'm 99.9% sure he's bad at this point.

What is this technique? Tell me about the 0.1%, Bullz!

Something something massive wealth and income inequality...

Oh the irony.

Bullzeye wrote:*Voting Matt*. I'm 99.9% sure he's bad at this point.

Do you still think Zebra is his teammate?

nutella wrote:Whoops, sorry, I kinda forgot about this game today.
RIP DF. I've caught up but I don't really get all the hullabaloo between him and Matt and as usual I'm really not taking anything away from Day 1 nonsense. There's really no way to glean much of anything from that, and if anything I'd lean towards thinking the people getting more involved in the discussion are not the baddies.

Epignosis wrote:I'm votin for my spottieottiedopaliscious nutella. Damn damn damn damn.

????? What even

Yeah, sorry I've been under the radar so far, but I didn't really have any thoughts yesterday since it was just getting started and I didn't remember to catch up until after the lynch. (I'll be gone all day tomorrow too but it'll be night so hopefully I won't miss as much discussion) otherwise I'll try to pay more attention and start to form some thoughts on day 2. Honestly even though my vote for Floyd was pretty pseudo-random I wouldn't mind pursuing him a bit since he also seems to have remained pretty under-the-radar.

Ok... So the people participating in the discussion are not the baddies but you are not participating in the discussion.

And you vote for Floyd for being under the radar but he's really been more present than you have been...

Long Con wrote:What is this technique? Tell me about the 0.1%, Bullz!

Pretty much, Epi voted for me for three or four days straight for something I apparently did on another game. Matt's looking like he's doing that to Bullz now.

I looked it up. Epignosis was civilian in that game. How does this make Matt bad then?

Looks like the smoke monster we saw in the jungle decided to spare us last night. (Though I could have sworn I heard growling, like a bear or something)

Looking at the 5-way tie:
nutella and LC voting for Floyd.
Me and Wilgy voting for DFaraday.
SVS and Sorsha voting for Matt.
Typhoony and Bullzeye voting for LongCon.
Zebra and DFaraday voting for Wilgy.

Here's the breakdown of all the votes I could see from thread posting so far in the game (this is mostly for my reference):
~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Typh votes zebra for not reading the rules (Zebra 1)
Typh changes to me because he thought I didn't know where our plane was landing (Scotty 1, Zebra 0)
Zebra votes Wilgy because his post looked similar to how it was in Star Wars when Wilgy was bad (Wilgy 1)
Matt votes for Bullz because "he is bad" (Bullz 1)
nutella dropped a vote on Floyd because

idk

lol (Floyd 1)
I drop a vote on DFaraday because he hadn't been around at that point. He did end up coming back, but I didn't find a better reason to change my vote. (Faraday 1)
LC votes for SVS to distance himself from "a socialist." (SVS 1)
Wilgy follows me and votes DFaraday because he was a good day 1 buddy. (Faraday 2)
LC changes his vote to Wilgy simply because there were too many 'one-votes' and didn't want Faraday to be the only 2-vote guy.(Wilgy 2, SVS 0))
DFaraday follows on Wilgy for self preservation (Wilgy 3)
Typhoony changes his vote to LC for voting Wilgy, who said only baddies vote for him (LC 1, Scotty 0)
SVS votes Matt for "picking on Bullz" (Matt 1)
LC changes his vote to Floyd because his posts had "much to be desired" but also?? because he wanted to tie the votes for 2 a-apiece between DFaraday, Wilgy and Floyd (Floyd 2, Wilgy 2, DFaraday 2)
Sorsha votes for Matt for taking his Bullz vote more seriously than earlier in the game (Matt 2)
Bullz votes for LC because a "5 way tie looks cool" (LC 2, Floyd 2, Wilgy 2, Matt 2, DFaraday 2)

OK so now we're caught up to the 5 way tie.

At this point, I think that at least 1 mafia member is hiding in the votes. We know it wasn't DFaraday.

At this point:
Epi puts his first vote on nutella because...her name sounded like a song in his head?? idk (nutella 1)
Floyd puts his first vote on Matt and breaks the tie on account of weak reasoning of voting for Bullz (Matt 3)
Bullz changes to Matt because Matt wasn't backing down from his Bullz vote (Matt 4, LC 1)
Typh changes his vote to SVS because he wanted to "test the waters" (SVS 1, LC 0, DFaraday 2, Wilgy 2, Floyd 2, Matt 4)
Matt changes his vote to DFaraday for self-preservation (DFaraday 3, Bullz 0)
Zebra (I think, it's not clear) changes to DFaraday because he is "more confident Matt that Matt is good than DFaraday [is] bad or good" (DFaraday 4, Matt 4, Wilgy 1)

zebra "is willing to bet" right when she ties the vote between DFaraday and Matt that one is bad. This would back up her reasoning that when Faraday came out as good in the lynch that Matt is bad. However, where she came to the conclusion that one had to be bad, I'm not sure. Just a few posts earlier, she had said

Matt on the other hand is 100% civ Matt.

. So it would be odd to assume, then, that he is bad because she participated in the mislynch of one of the trains.

LC then changes his vote to DFaraday, with the explanation:

I switched my vote to DFaraday. I'm not sure between him (5) and Matt (4), but I have no interest in tying it up or in letting a baddie decide which of them goes, so I'm crossing my fingers. Sorry, DF!

*votes DFaraday*

(DFaraday 6, Matt 4, Floyd 1)

This is a very odd vote because his entire Day 1 has been predicated on tieing the vote. To then not wish to tie the vote as a reason to vote for someone when it's becoming 2 candidates to be thrown into the jungle? A little hypocritical, honestly.
Even more interesting is his vote 1.5 hours later for nutella, only to realize that he tied the vote again, which wasn't his "original plan", and he puts it back on Faraday. Once again, that sure doesn't sound like his original plan...I don't even know if he knows his original plan, or the purpose of this change.


Anyway, I wish I were around more for that day, but here's where the game starts for me.
I feel like following with Wilgy this vote since he followed me last vote, BUT right now my top suspects are: LC and zebra, based on voting patterns and reasoning alone. I also don't trust Floyd for his vote around the 5 way 2-vote siesta, or nutella for her double-standard vote reasoning.

I personally think Matt and Wilgy are my two civ reads. Matt has been literally defending himself since we started. But again, no one has answered me on how he usually acts in games. He seems very spastic, and I've just been chocking that up to his personality. But. if that isn't a quality that he normally has, then I'd maybe change my mind.
Wilgy has not yet given me a reason not to trust him, but I also want to hear more from him. I'm usually not a fan of buddying in games, but I feel like I can still trust him.

Ugh that wall of text looks like a fucking smoke monster. I'm sorry about the formatting, y'all

Also I am voting Zebra.

Matt wrote:Zeebs, I'm not bad dudette. Nobody saved me to my knowledge, and if they did, it's one of two possibilities...

a) Someone who voted DF is a cop, got a good guy check at the beginning, and got me.

b) There are baddies in the DF voters who intentionally "saved" me only to get me lynched the next day.

Or

c) Bullz is bad, let's get 'em! (and SVS, too!)

Do you still think bullz and svs are bad today? My suspicion of you is lessened today and I doubt I'll be voting for you again. Your defensive posts yesterday sound genuine to me.

@Scotty- I like your suspicion list. I'll have to review Floyd and zebra a bit more but I agree on LC and Nutella.

LCs voting antics yesterday aren't sitting right with me- especially the back and fourth on DFaraday at the end. It looks like a baddie not sure if he wants to be involved in a civ lynch to me.

@BR- thanks for clearing that up!

Lol- that reply to BR belongs in the champions game

After the way The Striped Crusader dismissed Danny Boy's 11th hour claim only to see him lynched and then immediately craft a dilemma afterward to string up Tuft-Head doesn't sit well with me.

And Sassafras telling Tuft-Head that it was his fault she was having tunnel vision on him doesn't make any damn sense to me.

S~V~S wrote:I am not tunneling you. I never was. But you keep poking so Ihave no chance to forget you.

It was a day one ping. You're the one tunnelling. Jeez.

S~V~S wrote:I would have dropped this already you're the one making a molehill into fucking Everest. Or trying to make it sound like it was personal.

I voted for you for a ping. Get over it an move on.

Sassafras almost gets Tuft-Head lynched "over a ping" (whatever that is) and yet its his fault she can't broaden her perspective? That isn't right from where I'm sitting. And from where I'm sitting, I have a beautiful view of the ocean. Only wish I had a cold beer.

Someone I want to trust is consistently deflecting any suspicion of Matt, and Matt is accusing me of being personal and saying I am bad becasue i suspect him. Awesome. I need to think about this. Becasue a consistent low level bolstering of Matt is coming from the same direction, and it concerns me.

Epi,I trust you. What do you think of Matt.

Linki, lol. I am buying what you are putting out. We haven't always gotten along on the beach, but we are on the same side.