The Syndicate

Sloonei wrote:

Scotty wrote:

Sloonei wrote:Scratch that, I'm voting for Scotty. He's been around the thread, but has kind of just been lurking in the background of things, not really being an active part of any discussion, and his tone is very light.

its day 1, what you want from me. This seems like a random vote.

It's Day 1, what do you want from me? This seems like a strange defense.

I call a stalemate. Let's start afresh tomorrow.

Sorsha wrote:I put my vote on zebra. See my previous post on her, I think she was trying to get something going on svs but backed off when no one was going for it. Then she turned to eloh.

Zebra's approach there, and the general strategy of the maligned "RVS" is to put pressure on a player to see how they react. I think that is what you are observing in Zebra here.

However, I am in no position to defend zebra's townstripes, having just been sufficiently crushed by her in an RYM game last week.

Scotty wrote:

Elohcin wrote:I didn't want to vote bwt b/c he hasn't even shown. And if he's civ it will stink. BUT.....I gotta try to save Epi for now as I see no suspicions in him and he is actually active when BWT is not.

Is that the only reason you want to save him??

The only game related reason.

Linki: haha Epi.

You are right though about sig.

will me post ever go through?!

Scotty wrote:

Sloonei wrote:

Scotty wrote:

Sloonei wrote:Scratch that, I'm voting for Scotty. He's been around the thread, but has kind of just been lurking in the background of things, not really being an active part of any discussion, and his tone is very light.

its day 1, what you want from me. This seems like a random vote.

It's Day 1, what do you want from me? This seems like a strange defense.

I call a stalemate. Let's start afresh tomorrow.

Not it people are gonna vote for you in the next half hour. They're almost certainly not.

Does a tied vote make it more or less likely that a baddie will be lynched?

sig wrote:The last minute vote drive onto BWT is suspicious, he hasn't even seen his role PM yet four people are voting for him? Including Elohcin to save you even though she could have voted for someone else. This is suspicious.

I'm also looking at Sloonie. So my day 1 mafia team prediction is. Epi, Elohcin, and Sloonie.

You ignored my question, sig.

If I'm mafia, and this is a push to save me, how many people on my team would know I was bad? Go ahead and count them. I'll wait.

Hey @Host!

Does the narrator have to decide whether he wants to direct someone's lynch vote before the lynch ends?

And if Boris dies, does that mean the other Mafia receive the kill in a line of succession, or is Mafia just permanently handicapped? Bc that would be lolz

Sloonei wrote:

Sorsha wrote:I put my vote on zebra. See my previous post on her, I think she was trying to get something going on svs but backed off when no one was going for it. Then she turned to eloh.

Zebra's approach there, and the general strategy of the maligned "RVS" is to put pressure on a player to see how they react. I think that is what you are observing in Zebra here.

However, I am in no position to defend zebra's townstripes, having just been sufficiently crushed by her in an RYM game last week.

My post about her earlier was highlighting how she first said she didn't know if it spoke to SVS's alignment to SVS's reaction being a definite civ tell. 20 minutes apart with no addition input from svs on the matter.

sig wrote:

Epignosis wrote:
sig is now #1.

Awww thank you Epi.



The last minute vote drive onto BWT is suspicious, he hasn't even seen his role PM yet four people are voting for him? Including Elohcin to save you even though she could have voted for someone else. This is suspicious.

I'm also looking at Sloonie. So my day 1 mafia team prediction is. Epi, Elohcin, and Sloonie.

linki: That sounds like a policy lynch?

thank you for the attention, but why are you giving it to me?

Epignosis wrote:

sig wrote:The last minute vote drive onto BWT is suspicious, he hasn't even seen his role PM yet four people are voting for him? Including Elohcin to save you even though she could have voted for someone else. This is suspicious.

I'm also looking at Sloonie. So my day 1 mafia team prediction is. Epi, Elohcin, and Sloonie.

You ignored my question, sig.

If I'm mafia, and this is a push to save me, how many people on my team would know I was bad? Go ahead and count them. I'll wait.

It sounds like Fearless Leader knows who is on his team and even if he doesn't you're sharing BTSC with someone. I think that someone is Elohcin and she voted to save you. The other two votes on bwt have been there for awhile unlike your vote. I think we should get five votes on Epi just in case there is shenanigan at work.

Long Con wrote:Does a tied vote make it more or less likely that a baddie will be lynched?

The answer is, it makes it less likely for a baddie to be lynched. As far as I know. It's like lining lynch victims up in a buffet for a baddie to carefully craft a simple vote that will ensure their teammate doesn't die.

I'll move my vote to sig. Sorry sig, I know you have had early-game troubles before, and I have defended you when the majority was taking Civ you down... but this is my biggest ping now.

Epi's point that the tiny not-all-BTSC baddies aren't performing some multi-save on Epi is also relevant, but that could mean other things as well.

*vote sig*

sig wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

sig wrote:The last minute vote drive onto BWT is suspicious, he hasn't even seen his role PM yet four people are voting for him? Including Elohcin to save you even though she could have voted for someone else. This is suspicious.

I'm also looking at Sloonie. So my day 1 mafia team prediction is. Epi, Elohcin, and Sloonie.

You ignored my question, sig.

If I'm mafia, and this is a push to save me, how many people on my team would know I was bad? Go ahead and count them. I'll wait.

It sounds like Fearless Leader knows who is on his team and even if he doesn't you're sharing BTSC with someone. I think that someone is Elohcin and she voted to save you. The other two votes on bwt have been there for awhile unlike your vote. I think we should get five votes on Epi just in case there is shenanigan at work.

Hmmm I wouldnt think day 0 counts as a night so I don't think he would know his team yet. It was a day 0 and
Not night 0, right?

sig wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

sig wrote:The last minute vote drive onto BWT is suspicious, he hasn't even seen his role PM yet four people are voting for him? Including Elohcin to save you even though she could have voted for someone else. This is suspicious.

I'm also looking at Sloonie. So my day 1 mafia team prediction is. Epi, Elohcin, and Sloonie.

You ignored my question, sig.

If I'm mafia, and this is a push to save me, how many people on my team would know I was bad? Go ahead and count them. I'll wait.

It sounds like Fearless Leader knows who is on his team and even if he doesn't you're sharing BTSC with someone.

It sounds like he knows who is on his team? Based on what?

Boris Badanov - BTSC with Natasha, Kills nightly.
Natasha Fatale - BTSC with Boris, Can seduce another player into voting as she chooses.
Fearless Leader - Can send one message to Boris and Natasha each night. Survives his first death.

Where do you draw the notion that Fearless Leader knows who Boris and Natasha are? If FL gets to send a message to them each night, but he knows who they are, why not just grant them standard BTSC?

You are making this up.

sig wrote:I think that someone is Elohcin and she voted to save you. The other two votes on bwt have been there for awhile unlike your vote. I think we should get five votes on Epi just in case there is shenanigan at work.

Gee, I wonder if Elohcin voted to save me.

Elohcin wrote:I didn't want to vote bwt b/c he hasn't even shown. And if he's civ it will stink. BUT.....I gotta try to save Epi for now as I see no suspicions in him and he is actually active when BWT is not.

Oh, look at that. She did.

And now you want five votes on me in case "shenanigans?"

Thanks for playing sig. I'll move my vote to you if it is safe for me to do so.

I'll change to sig right no if enough of you do.

I do not see conclusive evidence that Fearless Leader knows or does not know who his teammates are, so to make a point about it either way strikes me as suspicious.

I don't even care if I get lynched. I'm putting sig in the oven.

I wonder if sig will vote bwt to save himself.

At least I'll get nice and warm.

Long Con wrote:

Long Con wrote:Does a tied vote make it more or less likely that a baddie will be lynched?

The answer is, it makes it less likely for a baddie to be lynched. As far as I know. It's like lining lynch victims up in a buffet for a baddie to carefully craft a simple vote that will ensure their teammate doesn't die.

I'll move my vote to sig. Sorry sig, I know you have had early-game troubles before, and I have defended you when the majority was taking Civ you down... but this is my biggest ping now.

Epi's point that the tiny not-all-BTSC baddies aren't performing some multi-save on Epi is also relevant, but that could mean other things as well.

*vote sig*

No you haven't

...and I just woke up. Was up way too late last night. I'll try to speedread the thread now.

Too many good points against Sig.

Voting for Epignsosis because I feel like being a part of this action.

MovingPictures07 wrote:...and I just woke up. Was up way too late last night. I'll try to speedread the thread now.

Did you finish downloading all those adult videos?

Long Con wrote:

Long Con wrote:Does a tied vote make it more or less likely that a baddie will be lynched?

The answer is, it makes it less likely for a baddie to be lynched. As far as I know. It's like lining lynch victims up in a buffet for a baddie to carefully craft a simple vote that will ensure their teammate doesn't die.

I'll move my vote to sig. Sorry sig, I know you have had early-game troubles before, and I have defended you when the majority was taking Civ you down... but this is my biggest ping now.

Epi's point that the tiny not-all-BTSC baddies aren't performing some multi-save on Epi is also relevant, but that could mean other things as well.

*vote sig*

Even if it is just two with the BTSC they still could have saved him, though I might be revising my thoughts. Your more likely mafia then any off the others I've named. Mafia LC always bandwagons onto me day 1, 2, or 3. Plus you voted for a player who didn't even show up before switching to me.

@MP vote for Epi save me your my only hope!

Sloonei wrote:Voting for Epignsosis because I feel like being a part of this action.

Nice. I could be lynched because Sloonei wants a piece of the action.

Won't be able to digest this in time... what to do...

Elohcin wrote:Too many good points against Sig.

If I get lynched, note well that sig tried to save somebody who hasn't been on the site since the 16th. If sig is bad, so is bwt.

MovingPictures07 wrote:Won't be able to digest this in time... what to do...

Make it
A
3
Way
Tie

I feel pretty good about Epi, and fairly neutral about sig.

Sloonei wrote:I do not see conclusive evidence that Fearless Leader knows or does not know who his teammates are, so to make a point about it either way strikes me as suspicious.

But since you voted for Epi, you feel it is LESS suspicious when sig mentions it, even though he brought it up first?

I am moving my vote to sig, this vote of Slooneis feels save-ish.

MovingPictures07 wrote:Won't be able to digest this in time... what to do...

Digest. Just vote sig, then ketchup.

MP, you were better off just missing the vote.

S~V~S wrote:I feel pretty good about Epi, and fairly neutral about sig.

Sloonei wrote:I do not see conclusive evidence that Fearless Leader knows or does not know who his teammates are, so to make a point about it either way strikes me as suspicious.

But since you voted for Epi, you feel it is LESS suspicious when sig mentions it, even though he brought it up first?

I am moving my vote to sig, this vote of Slooneis feels save-ish.

I did not find it suspicious when sig did it because it's more likely he simply failed to notice the condition in the scum roles. Epi staked an entire claim on Fearless Leader not knowing their teammates.

When i flip civ vote lc tomorrow.

Scotty wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:Won't be able to digest this in time... what to do...

Make it
A
3
Way
Tie

I wanted to, but it appears I couldn't thanks to S~V~S, so I made it a 2-way tie.

Will properly catch up later.

That's annoying MP. If you can't devote the time to it, don't play. It's not fair to the rest of us.

sig said the most suspicious things I've ever seen for a Day 1, tried to save an absentee and lynch an active civilian. I cannot believe I am tied with him. My voters should be ashamed of themselves and their half-baked votes.

A piece of the sig case insists on him being unaware of the dimensions of the scum team. How is that scummy?

Or at least refrain from voting if it's not an informed vote.

Sloonei wrote:

S~V~S wrote:I feel pretty good about Epi, and fairly neutral about sig.

Sloonei wrote:I do not see conclusive evidence that Fearless Leader knows or does not know who his teammates are, so to make a point about it either way strikes me as suspicious.

But since you voted for Epi, you feel it is LESS suspicious when sig mentions it, even though he brought it up first?

I am moving my vote to sig, this vote of Slooneis feels save-ish.

I did not find it suspicious when sig did it because it's more likely he simply failed to notice the condition in the scum roles. Epi staked an entire claim on Fearless Leader not knowing their teammates.

But you said that to make a point about it either way strikes you as suspicious; not that one is more suspicious than the other. And you did not mention this aspect of your thoughts at all when you voted for Epi. I still think this was a save vote. Although there is a lot of civ BTS here, I don't think you would have waited so long to put in a save for a civ.

Elohcin wrote:That's annoying MP. If you can't devote the time to it, don't play. It's not fair to the rest of us.

I don't really need a lecture about not being able to play. I mainly signed up to help Llama fill the game, and it looked fun. I have time to play, but woke up later than I thought I would.

Why are you so concerned that Epi might be lynched?

S~V~S wrote:

Sloonei wrote:

S~V~S wrote:I feel pretty good about Epi, and fairly neutral about sig.

Sloonei wrote:I do not see conclusive evidence that Fearless Leader knows or does not know who his teammates are, so to make a point about it either way strikes me as suspicious.

But since you voted for Epi, you feel it is LESS suspicious when sig mentions it, even though he brought it up first?

I am moving my vote to sig, this vote of Slooneis feels save-ish.

I did not find it suspicious when sig did it because it's more likely he simply failed to notice the condition in the scum roles. Epi staked an entire claim on Fearless Leader not knowing their teammates.

But you said that to make a point about it either way strikes you as suspicious; not that one is more suspicious than the other. And you did not mention this aspect of your thoughts at all when you voted for Epi. I still think this was a save vote. Although there is a lot of civ BTS here, I don't think you would have waited so long to put in a save for a civ.

It definitely was a save vote. I don't find the case against sig to be the least bit convincing.

MovingPictures07 wrote:

Elohcin wrote:That's annoying MP. If you can't devote the time to it, don't play. It's not fair to the rest of us.

I don't really need a lecture about not being able to play. I mainly signed up to help Llama fill the game, and it looked fun. I have time to play, but woke up later than I thought I would.

Why are you so concerned that Epi might be lynched?

Has nothing to do with Epi and all to do with Sig.

MovingPictures07 wrote:

Elohcin wrote:That's annoying MP. If you can't devote the time to it, don't play. It's not fair to the rest of us.

I don't really need a lecture about not being able to play. I mainly signed up to help Llama fill the game, and it looked fun. I have time to play, but woke up later than I thought I would.

Why are you so concerned that Epi might be lynched?

So someone who isn't informed and hasn't read the thread casts a deciding vote for someone who has been keeping up and wants to participate. Thanks. I'll remember that.

I keep trying to post but the site keeps logging me out.

Epignosis wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:

Elohcin wrote:That's annoying MP. If you can't devote the time to it, don't play. It's not fair to the rest of us.

I don't really need a lecture about not being able to play. I mainly signed up to help Llama fill the game, and it looked fun. I have time to play, but woke up later than I thought I would.

Why are you so concerned that Epi might be lynched?

So someone who isn't informed and hasn't read the thread casts a deciding vote for someone who has been keeping up and wants to participate. Thanks. I'll remember that.

I keep trying to post but the site keeps logging me out.

You haven't died yet.

If you do, and you are civilian, then that sucks and I'm sorry I cast the deciding vote. But I had to vote for someone.

Sloonei wrote:

S~V~S wrote:

Sloonei wrote:

S~V~S wrote:I feel pretty good about Epi, and fairly neutral about sig.

Sloonei wrote:I do not see conclusive evidence that Fearless Leader knows or does not know who his teammates are, so to make a point about it either way strikes me as suspicious.

But since you voted for Epi, you feel it is LESS suspicious when sig mentions it, even though he brought it up first?

I am moving my vote to sig, this vote of Slooneis feels save-ish.

I did not find it suspicious when sig did it because it's more likely he simply failed to notice the condition in the scum roles. Epi staked an entire claim on Fearless Leader not knowing their teammates.

But you said that to make a point about it either way strikes you as suspicious; not that one is more suspicious than the other. And you did not mention this aspect of your thoughts at all when you voted for Epi. I still think this was a save vote. Although there is a lot of civ BTS here, I don't think you would have waited so long to put in a save for a civ.

It definitely was a save vote. I don't find the case against sig to be the least bit convincing.

So your thoughts on whether or not FL knows his teammates were a basic throwaway, since you actually DID suspect someone on one side of that debate, and you did not suspect anyone AT ALL on the other side of it. You just said that to say it?

Elochin if it was all about me wht vote bwt first? This is all about you saving epi.

MovingPictures07 wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:

Elohcin wrote:That's annoying MP. If you can't devote the time to it, don't play. It's not fair to the rest of us.

I don't really need a lecture about not being able to play. I mainly signed up to help Llama fill the game, and it looked fun. I have time to play, but woke up later than I thought I would.

Why are you so concerned that Epi might be lynched?

So someone who isn't informed and hasn't read the thread casts a deciding vote for someone who has been keeping up and wants to participate. Thanks. I'll remember that.

I keep trying to post but the site keeps logging me out.

You haven't died yet.

If you do, and you are civilian, then that sucks and I'm sorry I cast the deciding vote. But I had to vote for someone.

Like I said, I'll remember this.

Epignosis wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:

Elohcin wrote:That's annoying MP. If you can't devote the time to it, don't play. It's not fair to the rest of us.

I don't really need a lecture about not being able to play. I mainly signed up to help Llama fill the game, and it looked fun. I have time to play, but woke up later than I thought I would.

Why are you so concerned that Epi might be lynched?

So someone who isn't informed and hasn't read the thread casts a deciding vote for someone who has been keeping up and wants to participate. Thanks. I'll remember that.

I keep trying to post but the site keeps logging me out.

You haven't died yet.

If you do, and you are civilian, then that sucks and I'm sorry I cast the deciding vote. But I had to vote for someone.

Like I said, I'll remember this.

No need to make it personal. It isn't.