The Syndicate

Quin wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 2:08 am

Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 1:57 am Jack of Hearts should be on the poll today. That's my fault. Fixed. Vote again.

didnt take bwt off the poll tho

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 2:09 amA new friend?

Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 2:10 am Anybody else you people want on or off the poll?

Kylemii wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 2:12 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 2:09 amA new friend?

the ermac sock

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2018 10:48 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2018 10:18 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2018 9:20 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2018 9:15 pm Bleeeeeeeh. @Mac lynch.

I'm definitely not sure how I feel about this post.

Some odd mixture of TMI, guessing your motive, wondering why you thought Kyle would be better, and being annoyed that you didn't make a stronger case on Kyle if you really wanted that lynch.

I think Mac was good and Kyle is bad. Also, lack of flip sucks. There's nothing else to it.

Ultimately, why did you vote for Mac?

The only good feels I have from Mac came from his hard-nosed style. Then I was told that he was like that as both alignments, so I went back to bleh on him.

Worse than Kylemii. Kyle's tone reads as town, though I'm still not seeing the civvie spark from him that I usually do. He 'shines' more in late game anyway, so I'm willing to give him more time.

I moved my vote from Wilgy to Mac so that I could commit, make a statement. I wanted my vote on the record, to weigh in on the choice even though my vote wasn't needed. Seems like a good thing to do, make my vote worth something on the record.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 2:18 am

Kylemii wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 2:12 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 2:09 amA new friend?

the ermac sock

You didn't mention that I was back. That hurts.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 1:59 am

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 1:43 am

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 12:39 am

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 12:09 am Voted Wilgy btw

Why would you eeeeeeeeveeeeer do thaaaaaat?

Defend yourself.

Imma be annoyed if we lynch you and you aren't bad.

Why?

Kylemii wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 1:55 am okay cool no death and also Sloonei is here again and also we seem to have a new friend?

I have thoughts on the no-kill.

we have no protective roles, at least among the visible powers. technically speaking there could be a role with a bp vest or something but epi has stated his dislike for that mechanic. Idk I guess it's a possibility. Not the point.

Town has 3 visible ways to stop a kill. Or maybe 4 technically?

1. Subzero blocks the killer
2. Sheeva blocks the killer
3. Li Mei swaps goro's target with someone who was going to target the killer with something else
4. Li Mei swaps the mileena's target with someone else's target who was targetting player who would have been the victim
5. there are also some possibilities involving redirecting a Shang Tsung who is copying any of the above roles I guess
6. also maybe someone has a survival thing as a secret power?

The point is, most of those scenarios requires one of our roles to have targeted the killer with power disruption roles last night, which indicates to me that we're probably on the right track with one of our most recent suspicions. So that's where my focus will be today.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 2:38 am

Kylemii wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 1:55 am okay cool no death and also Sloonei is here again and also we seem to have a new friend?

I have thoughts on the no-kill.

we have no protective roles, at least among the visible powers. technically speaking there could be a role with a bp vest or something but epi has stated his dislike for that mechanic. Idk I guess it's a possibility. Not the point.

Town has 3 visible ways to stop a kill. Or maybe 4 technically?

1. Subzero blocks the killer
2. Sheeva blocks the killer
3. Li Mei swaps goro's target with someone who was going to target the killer with something else
4. Li Mei swaps the mileena's target with someone else's target who was targetting player who would have been the victim
5. there are also some possibilities involving redirecting a Shang Tsung who is copying any of the above roles I guess
6. also maybe someone has a survival thing as a secret power?

The point is, most of those scenarios requires one of our roles to have targeted the killer with power disruption roles last night, which indicates to me that we're probably on the right track with one of our most recent suspicions. So that's where my focus will be today.

I like this thought process.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 2:34 am Someone tell me about Dunya.

Ermac wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 2:42 am

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 2:38 am

Kylemii wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 1:55 am okay cool no death and also Sloonei is here again and also we seem to have a new friend?

I have thoughts on the no-kill.

we have no protective roles, at least among the visible powers. technically speaking there could be a role with a bp vest or something but epi has stated his dislike for that mechanic. Idk I guess it's a possibility. Not the point.

Town has 3 visible ways to stop a kill. Or maybe 4 technically?

1. Subzero blocks the killer
2. Sheeva blocks the killer
3. Li Mei swaps goro's target with someone who was going to target the killer with something else
4. Li Mei swaps the mileena's target with someone else's target who was targetting player who would have been the victim
5. there are also some possibilities involving redirecting a Shang Tsung who is copying any of the above roles I guess
6. also maybe someone has a survival thing as a secret power?

The point is, most of those scenarios requires one of our roles to have targeted the killer with power disruption roles last night, which indicates to me that we're probably on the right track with one of our most recent suspicions. So that's where my focus will be today.

I like this thought process.

We believe it to be in error

Kylemii wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 2:52 am

Ermac wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 2:42 am

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 2:38 am

Kylemii wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 1:55 am okay cool no death and also Sloonei is here again and also we seem to have a new friend?

I have thoughts on the no-kill.

we have no protective roles, at least among the visible powers. technically speaking there could be a role with a bp vest or something but epi has stated his dislike for that mechanic. Idk I guess it's a possibility. Not the point.

Town has 3 visible ways to stop a kill. Or maybe 4 technically?

1. Subzero blocks the killer
2. Sheeva blocks the killer
3. Li Mei swaps goro's target with someone who was going to target the killer with something else
4. Li Mei swaps the mileena's target with someone else's target who was targetting player who would have been the victim
5. there are also some possibilities involving redirecting a Shang Tsung who is copying any of the above roles I guess
6. also maybe someone has a survival thing as a secret power?

The point is, most of those scenarios requires one of our roles to have targeted the killer with power disruption roles last night, which indicates to me that we're probably on the right track with one of our most recent suspicions. So that's where my focus will be today.

I like this thought process.

We believe it to be in error

error?

Kylemii wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 2:51 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 2:34 am Someone tell me about Dunya.

Dunya replaced in during day 2, the chaos realm phase which was a basic fuckpile of nonsense and people trying desperately to be heard because of almost everyone being cursed.

Dunya upon replacing in (and apparently having read the thread ahead of time) almost immediately made a relatively legible case against sig using rap lyrics and strategic quoting. Sig ended up getting lynched, and was a civ.

I think the two main arguments for and against dunya respectively are, "dunya came in and immediately made a strong effort despite adversity and communicated clearly when she didn't need to" and "dunya came in and immediately made a case against someone in order to save a teammate in distress"

There might be some other nuance involved but that's mostly it I think.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 2:35 am

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 1:59 am

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 1:43 am

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 12:39 am

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 12:09 am Voted Wilgy btw

Why would you eeeeeeeeveeeeer do thaaaaaat?

Defend yourself.

Imma be annoyed if we lynch you and you aren't bad.

Why?

Cause 1) I am town and want to lynch players who are not
2) I'd rather lose cause I messed up than because my teammate threw the game

I don't know what it means that you aren't really trying to avoid lynch. (I'm still going to try to lynch you.)

lapluie wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 2:58 am

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 2:35 am

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 1:59 am

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 1:43 am

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 12:39 am

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 12:09 am Voted Wilgy btw

Why would you eeeeeeeeveeeeer do thaaaaaat?

Defend yourself.

Imma be annoyed if we lynch you and you aren't bad.

Why?

Cause 1) I am town and want to lynch players who are not
2) I'd rather lose cause I messed up than because my teammate threw the game

I don't know what it means that you aren't really trying to avoid lynch. (I'm still going to try to lynch you.)

hi, I too want to kill help town
let's start with dunya

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 2:58 am what's an ermac? Like Mac but more prone to error?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 2:57 am

Kylemii wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 2:51 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 2:34 am Someone tell me about Dunya.

Dunya replaced in during day 2, the chaos realm phase which was a basic fuckpile of nonsense and people trying desperately to be heard because of almost everyone being cursed.

Dunya upon replacing in (and apparently having read the thread ahead of time) almost immediately made a relatively legible case against sig using rap lyrics and strategic quoting. Sig ended up getting lynched, and was a civ.

I think the two main arguments for and against dunya respectively are, "dunya came in and immediately made a strong effort despite adversity and communicated clearly when she didn't need to" and "dunya came in and immediately made a case against someone in order to save a teammate in distress"

There might be some other nuance involved but that's mostly it I think.

I wouldn't want to lynch dunya based solely off her participation in a phase when she could only post in raps, fresh as they might have been. She's a very sincere player, so I think if she's being anything less than that it should come out sooner or later. I don't remember the last time I saw her scum game though. I'm pretty sure she's only been town on the syndicate so far.

Quin wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 3:04 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 2:57 am

Kylemii wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 2:51 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 2:34 am Someone tell me about Dunya.

Dunya replaced in during day 2, the chaos realm phase which was a basic fuckpile of nonsense and people trying desperately to be heard because of almost everyone being cursed.

Dunya upon replacing in (and apparently having read the thread ahead of time) almost immediately made a relatively legible case against sig using rap lyrics and strategic quoting. Sig ended up getting lynched, and was a civ.

I think the two main arguments for and against dunya respectively are, "dunya came in and immediately made a strong effort despite adversity and communicated clearly when she didn't need to" and "dunya came in and immediately made a case against someone in order to save a teammate in distress"

There might be some other nuance involved but that's mostly it I think.

I wouldn't want to lynch dunya based solely off her participation in a phase when she could only post in raps, fresh as they might have been. She's a very sincere player, so I think if she's being anything less than that it should come out sooner or later. I don't remember the last time I saw her scum game though. I'm pretty sure she's only been town on the syndicate so far.

dunya launched an immediate case on me after the sig lynch. I find said case disingenuous. I recommend you have a look.

Ermac wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 3:03 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 2:58 am what's an ermac? Like Mac but more prone to error?

Dis us at your peril, Sloonei

Ermac wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 2:54 am

Kylemii wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 2:52 am error?

Indeed. Error.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 3:07 am

Ermac wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 3:03 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 2:58 am what's an ermac? Like Mac but more prone to error?

Dis us at your peril, Sloonei

what're you gonna do, lynch me?

dunya wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 3:28 am Quin can't handle suspicion and cries wolf.

Interesting

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 3:36 am *who's immune to scrutiny

Please forgive me, i'm clearly a wreck

dunya wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 3:44 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 3:36 am *who's immune to scrutiny

Please forgive me, i'm clearly a wreck

We're you spectating after you died? Who's pinged you as a spectator and why?

Same questions to @MacDougall

dunya wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 3:45 am I wonder if sig is alive too?

dunya wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 3:24 am No kill



Nutella is bad.

dunya wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 3:44 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 3:36 am *who's immune to scrutiny

Please forgive me, i'm clearly a wreck

We're you spectating after you died? Who's pinged you as a spectator and why?

Same questions to @MacDougall

dunya wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 3:42 am Kyle gets townie points for being the first one trying to make a defense on why the kill failed.

Ermac wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 5:19 am

dunya wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 3:42 am Kyle gets townie points for being the first one trying to make a defense on why the kill failed.

Does he retain those townie points if he were deliberately misrepresenting the actual events?

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 5:28 am I think Ermac is suggesting that the actual mechanic by which there was no death was something that you didn't mention. I haven't looked at the roles closely enough to know whether you missed anything, but it could be something that's not public and perhaps Ermac is suggesting you know something?