MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon May 18, 2020 11:16 amSeriously?
it was a really well-done and genuine looking ate if g-man's town
which idk if that's something he can do but it's lame and i'd be pissy about it post-game
but who knows? i tr'd long con in ac for that self vote
but anyways idk if g-man does shifty strats like that
AtE should be alignment neutral, if one alignment can do it so can the other.
but... but but but but he was sad 'cause he didn't feel included in y'alls community T-T i felt for the guy
I mean I’ve said similar shit as mafia, I don’t think it’s particularly AI. YMMV
the syndicate is one crazy place
ate clears are easy to do on ffr 'cause if you fake 'em we blast you, unless you get fake mad(tm) on mikey then the rest of the community's ok but i still get pissy because mikey's my fave
Re: Corrupt!? Mafia (D3)
Posted: Mon May 18, 2020 11:39 am
by Johann
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon May 18, 2020 11:38 am
Yeah I’ve never seen a townie that ends up fighting half the town.
boo wrote: ↑Mon May 18, 2020 11:23 am
@G-Man Jack and Mac are running a divide and conquer gambit. It's playing off of Johann's total distrust of me, your and Wilgy's general not keeping up, FGs regularly going all over the place as she tries to make up her mind, and my ability to generally alienate other town. I'm not really sure how they're fitting in Hyena.
If you trust your gut, (currently) vote for me, along with me and Nanook. We may need to shift the vote over to FG later in the day, bit that's where things currently stand.
In case you get the gun.
Who dies?
TBD. Nanook had a list somewhere, someone in it. I'd like to think Mac and Jack are teammates, but it seems a bit too easy. I think it's probably only actually one of them, and the other is playing the other.
I can see Mac as scum more than Jack
Sell me that pitch by your words and not nanooks
I'm not really invested in you voting with me. Whichever one of them hatched this scheme doesn't expect you to be on my side of this, and even then, I still see being able to get the numbers to burn them on what they did here. So if you're more open-minded then they thought, it's still easier for me to show you that it's worth risking trusting me through my interactions with other people, not directly with you. You don't trust me. Fair enough. I've given you reason not to. So you're to tunneled on me to not be able to find a way to doubt anything I can tell you. If you have more specific questions I can try and help you get there that way, but I'm not going to be able to sell you on trusting me in the way you're asking here.
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon May 18, 2020 11:37 am
It started as wanting to shake things up a bit/force people to make more challenging pushes than wilgy/boo but I think boo actually has me pocketed now tbh
Duskfall wrote: ↑Fri May 15, 2020 2:50 pm
I doubt scum jack poisons me btw considering i was strongly townreading him a lot of yesterday and changed the shot off him last night, regardless of how widely townread I am. That is unless a different partner needed me dead, but worth thinking about. I would say I am likely dying for being consensus town so my scumreads while a good reference point aren't going to be everything, but mafia I am townreading would still have no reason to want me dead. So if anything probably take away my townread from my death rather than my scumreads
All townreads of someone poisoned are inherently irrelevant.
Once poisoned, you cannot get the gun. Who you trust is not going to weigh into who will then be shot the night after you die.
SR reads can be more relevant, if the mafia think they'll hold enough water to result in someone you suspect getting shot.
So, as with most mafia kills, it all boils down to WIFOM of "would they kill someone to (soon) shut them up, so people ignore their SR" vs "their SR are relevant and we should listen to them... ah shit, they weren't actually relevant and we got town" vs "their SR are relevant and we should listen to them... but maybe they expected that, so let's not listen!" vs etc, etc.
The only useful takeaway from your being poisoned is that the mafia we have here went for the unimaginative option. You were the runnerup for the gun, and in general unlikely to ever be shot, and poisoning you means you cannot get the gun today. Those are all directly useful things we don't have to wonder about them thinking, they're why you're the unimaginative option. But the mafia can't control if and how your reads come into play by deciding to kill you. It's even WIFOM for them until it goes through, because they don't know how the town will react to it.
this is why i tr'd boo
For that?
For talking game mechanics?
well from that i don't think killing duskfall would be boo's decision, and i also think boo would really wanna talk about sTrAtEgY in a maf chat
I meant, out of all of his posts he done this game the one he talks about game mechanics is most valuable one?
Not his reads overall? Opinions?
i don't do reads like that. idk if you're good you can fake reads and oPiNiOns generally but a tell's gonna show up somewhere
Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Mon May 18, 2020 10:59 am
Jackofhearts2005 if it's between you and hyena, hyena isn't someone i'd shoot. so it has to be you
if it's between you and mac, mac is town, therefore i'd shoot you
idr what the two nanook said was
y'all really about to not give me the gun? w/e. then give it to me next time
None of this tells me why you suspect me. I want to know why you suspect me so I can tell you why you're wrong.
I get that you're blasting Boo over me. That's a good thing. But I'll be damned if anyone is ever going to shoot me without laying out exactly their reasons for doing so such that we can evaluate if they made a mistake or if they were full of shit.
It's very important that people who suspect me say exactly why they suspect me. Not why they don't suspect others. Not a blanket "everything Jack said is verified bullshit." Not "Fuck you, I'm confirmed town." Not "Jack is meh." Actual reasons that people think I could be mafia. Cause I'm not. A townie will either have understandable but wrong reasons or they'll see the light and not shoot me.
i don't like you because you're trying to break up a poe that people have been building up over the game. and after drago was shot down, there's some credibility to that poe
but that also means you'd die, or the wolves would die. it's a good deep wolf strat and it's making me uneasy
What POE am I trying to break up? Specifically.
there was this nice little thing where we were thinking wilgy or you or mac (lol) or hyena
and then all of a sudden idk what's going on
If I get the gun, I'm shooting Wilgy or Boo in order to take me out of the poe by blasting a wolf.
boo wrote: ↑Mon May 18, 2020 11:23 am
@G-Man Jack and Mac are running a divide and conquer gambit. It's playing off of Johann's total distrust of me, your and Wilgy's general not keeping up, FGs regularly going all over the place as she tries to make up her mind, and my ability to generally alienate other town. I'm not really sure how they're fitting in Hyena.
If you trust your gut, (currently) vote for me, along with me and Nanook. We may need to shift the vote over to FG later in the day, bit that's where things currently stand.
In case you get the gun.
Who dies?
TBD. Nanook had a list somewhere, someone in it. I'd like to think Mac and Jack are teammates, but it seems a bit too easy. I think it's probably only actually one of them, and the other is playing the other.
I can see Mac as scum more than Jack
Sell me that pitch by your words and not nanooks
I'm not really invested in you voting with me. Whichever one of them hatched this scheme doesn't expect you to be on my side of this, and even then, I still see being able to get the numbers to burn them on what they did here. So if you're more open-minded then they thought, it's still easier for me to show you that it's worth risking trusting me through my interactions with other people, not directly with you. You don't trust me. Fair enough. I've given you reason not to. So you're to tunneled on me to not be able to find a way to doubt anything I can tell you. If you have more specific questions I can try and help you get there that way, but I'm not going to be able to sell you on trusting me in the way you're asking here.
boo wrote: ↑Mon May 18, 2020 11:23 am
@G-Man Jack and Mac are running a divide and conquer gambit. It's playing off of Johann's total distrust of me, your and Wilgy's general not keeping up, FGs regularly going all over the place as she tries to make up her mind, and my ability to generally alienate other town. I'm not really sure how they're fitting in Hyena.
If you trust your gut, (currently) vote for me, along with me and Nanook. We may need to shift the vote over to FG later in the day, bit that's where things currently stand.
In case you get the gun.
Who dies?
TBD. Nanook had a list somewhere, someone in it. I'd like to think Mac and Jack are teammates, but it seems a bit too easy. I think it's probably only actually one of them, and the other is playing the other.
I can see Mac as scum more than Jack
Sell me that pitch by your words and not nanooks
I'm not really invested in you voting with me. Whichever one of them hatched this scheme doesn't expect you to be on my side of this, and even then, I still see being able to get the numbers to burn them on what they did here. So if you're more open-minded then they thought, it's still easier for me to show you that it's worth risking trusting me through my interactions with other people, not directly with you. You don't trust me. Fair enough. I've given you reason not to. So you're to tunneled on me to not be able to find a way to doubt anything I can tell you. If you have more specific questions I can try and help you get there that way, but I'm not going to be able to sell you on trusting me in the way you're asking here.
Listen here.
Those 2 have no influence on me what so ever, no one in this game does. I don't know any of you besides Dragomir. You maybe are my prime shot but i am not an idiot that will close them self in the shell and donkey it.
I am asking you a simple question. As someone who sees part of dougal that's scummy - why do YOU wanna kill him
Re: Corrupt!? Mafia (D3)
Posted: Mon May 18, 2020 11:42 am
by MacDougall
G-man and FG are the only people town reading me and I have them in my wolf pool. That should be enough to clear me frankly.
Duskfall wrote: ↑Fri May 15, 2020 2:50 pm
I doubt scum jack poisons me btw considering i was strongly townreading him a lot of yesterday and changed the shot off him last night, regardless of how widely townread I am. That is unless a different partner needed me dead, but worth thinking about. I would say I am likely dying for being consensus town so my scumreads while a good reference point aren't going to be everything, but mafia I am townreading would still have no reason to want me dead. So if anything probably take away my townread from my death rather than my scumreads
All townreads of someone poisoned are inherently irrelevant.
Once poisoned, you cannot get the gun. Who you trust is not going to weigh into who will then be shot the night after you die.
SR reads can be more relevant, if the mafia think they'll hold enough water to result in someone you suspect getting shot.
So, as with most mafia kills, it all boils down to WIFOM of "would they kill someone to (soon) shut them up, so people ignore their SR" vs "their SR are relevant and we should listen to them... ah shit, they weren't actually relevant and we got town" vs "their SR are relevant and we should listen to them... but maybe they expected that, so let's not listen!" vs etc, etc.
The only useful takeaway from your being poisoned is that the mafia we have here went for the unimaginative option. You were the runnerup for the gun, and in general unlikely to ever be shot, and poisoning you means you cannot get the gun today. Those are all directly useful things we don't have to wonder about them thinking, they're why you're the unimaginative option. But the mafia can't control if and how your reads come into play by deciding to kill you. It's even WIFOM for them until it goes through, because they don't know how the town will react to it.
this is why i tr'd boo
For that?
For talking game mechanics?
well from that i don't think killing duskfall would be boo's decision, and i also think boo would really wanna talk about sTrAtEgY in a maf chat
Boo: Lol nobody read too hard into Dusk's death!
FG: This means Boo probably didn't kill Dusk.
Jack:
Duskfall wrote: ↑Fri May 15, 2020 2:50 pm
I doubt scum jack poisons me btw considering i was strongly townreading him a lot of yesterday and changed the shot off him last night, regardless of how widely townread I am. That is unless a different partner needed me dead, but worth thinking about. I would say I am likely dying for being consensus town so my scumreads while a good reference point aren't going to be everything, but mafia I am townreading would still have no reason to want me dead. So if anything probably take away my townread from my death rather than my scumreads
All townreads of someone poisoned are inherently irrelevant.
Once poisoned, you cannot get the gun. Who you trust is not going to weigh into who will then be shot the night after you die.
SR reads can be more relevant, if the mafia think they'll hold enough water to result in someone you suspect getting shot.
So, as with most mafia kills, it all boils down to WIFOM of "would they kill someone to (soon) shut them up, so people ignore their SR" vs "their SR are relevant and we should listen to them... ah shit, they weren't actually relevant and we got town" vs "their SR are relevant and we should listen to them... but maybe they expected that, so let's not listen!" vs etc, etc.
The only useful takeaway from your being poisoned is that the mafia we have here went for the unimaginative option. You were the runnerup for the gun, and in general unlikely to ever be shot, and poisoning you means you cannot get the gun today. Those are all directly useful things we don't have to wonder about them thinking, they're why you're the unimaginative option. But the mafia can't control if and how your reads come into play by deciding to kill you. It's even WIFOM for them until it goes through, because they don't know how the town will react to it.
this is why i tr'd boo
For that?
For talking game mechanics?
well from that i don't think killing duskfall would be boo's decision, and i also think boo would really wanna talk about sTrAtEgY in a maf chat
Boo: Lol nobody read too hard into Dusk's death!
FG: This means Boo probably didn't kill Dusk.
Jack:
he thinks killing dusk is lame, or as he called it, "unimaginative"
Re: Corrupt!? Mafia (D3)
Posted: Mon May 18, 2020 11:44 am
by MacDougall
Eh I've done enough work for the day. Hopefully Slooster comes in here and puts you all in your place.
Re: Corrupt!? Mafia (D3)
Posted: Mon May 18, 2020 11:45 am
by Jackofhearts2005
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon May 18, 2020 11:37 am
It started as wanting to shake things up a bit/force people to make more challenging pushes than wilgy/boo but I think boo actually has me pocketed now tbh
Nanook: I will flat refuse to give reads and veto the death of certain players.
Also Nanook: That will shake things up.
Like...technically correct. But not if we had actually listened to you.
Duskfall wrote: ↑Fri May 15, 2020 2:50 pm
I doubt scum jack poisons me btw considering i was strongly townreading him a lot of yesterday and changed the shot off him last night, regardless of how widely townread I am. That is unless a different partner needed me dead, but worth thinking about. I would say I am likely dying for being consensus town so my scumreads while a good reference point aren't going to be everything, but mafia I am townreading would still have no reason to want me dead. So if anything probably take away my townread from my death rather than my scumreads
All townreads of someone poisoned are inherently irrelevant.
Once poisoned, you cannot get the gun. Who you trust is not going to weigh into who will then be shot the night after you die.
SR reads can be more relevant, if the mafia think they'll hold enough water to result in someone you suspect getting shot.
So, as with most mafia kills, it all boils down to WIFOM of "would they kill someone to (soon) shut them up, so people ignore their SR" vs "their SR are relevant and we should listen to them... ah shit, they weren't actually relevant and we got town" vs "their SR are relevant and we should listen to them... but maybe they expected that, so let's not listen!" vs etc, etc.
The only useful takeaway from your being poisoned is that the mafia we have here went for the unimaginative option. You were the runnerup for the gun, and in general unlikely to ever be shot, and poisoning you means you cannot get the gun today. Those are all directly useful things we don't have to wonder about them thinking, they're why you're the unimaginative option. But the mafia can't control if and how your reads come into play by deciding to kill you. It's even WIFOM for them until it goes through, because they don't know how the town will react to it.
this is why i tr'd boo
For that?
For talking game mechanics?
well from that i don't think killing duskfall would be boo's decision, and i also think boo would really wanna talk about sTrAtEgY in a maf chat
I meant, out of all of his posts he done this game the one he talks about game mechanics is most valuable one?
Not his reads overall? Opinions?
i don't do reads like that. idk if you're good you can fake reads and oPiNiOns generally but a tell's gonna show up somewhere
that's why i love dumb tells too
When it comes to that kind of talk i believe mafia is the one that has to think about it
Town doesn't have to think about that - it aint in our place to do so - our goal is simple
Mafia on other hand has to talk about such mechanics and all possibilities
Duskfall wrote: ↑Fri May 15, 2020 2:50 pm
I doubt scum jack poisons me btw considering i was strongly townreading him a lot of yesterday and changed the shot off him last night, regardless of how widely townread I am. That is unless a different partner needed me dead, but worth thinking about. I would say I am likely dying for being consensus town so my scumreads while a good reference point aren't going to be everything, but mafia I am townreading would still have no reason to want me dead. So if anything probably take away my townread from my death rather than my scumreads
All townreads of someone poisoned are inherently irrelevant.
Once poisoned, you cannot get the gun. Who you trust is not going to weigh into who will then be shot the night after you die.
SR reads can be more relevant, if the mafia think they'll hold enough water to result in someone you suspect getting shot.
So, as with most mafia kills, it all boils down to WIFOM of "would they kill someone to (soon) shut them up, so people ignore their SR" vs "their SR are relevant and we should listen to them... ah shit, they weren't actually relevant and we got town" vs "their SR are relevant and we should listen to them... but maybe they expected that, so let's not listen!" vs etc, etc.
The only useful takeaway from your being poisoned is that the mafia we have here went for the unimaginative option. You were the runnerup for the gun, and in general unlikely to ever be shot, and poisoning you means you cannot get the gun today. Those are all directly useful things we don't have to wonder about them thinking, they're why you're the unimaginative option. But the mafia can't control if and how your reads come into play by deciding to kill you. It's even WIFOM for them until it goes through, because they don't know how the town will react to it.
this is why i tr'd boo
For that?
For talking game mechanics?
well from that i don't think killing duskfall would be boo's decision, and i also think boo would really wanna talk about sTrAtEgY in a maf chat
Boo: Lol nobody read too hard into Dusk's death!
FG: This means Boo probably didn't kill Dusk.
Jack:
he thinks killing dusk is lame, or as he called it, "unimaginative"
Need I remind you that wolves say all kinds of shit.
Re: Corrupt!? Mafia (D3)
Posted: Mon May 18, 2020 11:46 am
by MacDougall
I am town. Read my ISO. I am town. Read my ISO. If you get on this wavelength you will discover the spiral and it's ultimate truth.
Re: Corrupt!? Mafia (D2)
Posted: Mon May 18, 2020 11:47 am
by Funnygurl555
Johann wrote: ↑Mon May 18, 2020 11:45 am
When it comes to that kind of talk i believe mafia is the one that has to think about it
Town doesn't have to think about that - it aint in our place to do so - our goal is simple
Mafia on other hand has to talk about such mechanics and all possibilities
boo was replying to dusk thinking about his own death and he called it predictable and.... "unimaginative"
boo wrote: ↑Mon May 18, 2020 11:23 am
@G-Man Jack and Mac are running a divide and conquer gambit. It's playing off of Johann's total distrust of me, your and Wilgy's general not keeping up, FGs regularly going all over the place as she tries to make up her mind, and my ability to generally alienate other town. I'm not really sure how they're fitting in Hyena.
If you trust your gut, (currently) vote for me, along with me and Nanook. We may need to shift the vote over to FG later in the day, bit that's where things currently stand.
In case you get the gun.
Who dies?
TBD. Nanook had a list somewhere, someone in it. I'd like to think Mac and Jack are teammates, but it seems a bit too easy. I think it's probably only actually one of them, and the other is playing the other.
I can see Mac as scum more than Jack
Sell me that pitch by your words and not nanooks
I'm not really invested in you voting with me. Whichever one of them hatched this scheme doesn't expect you to be on my side of this, and even then, I still see being able to get the numbers to burn them on what they did here. So if you're more open-minded then they thought, it's still easier for me to show you that it's worth risking trusting me through my interactions with other people, not directly with you. You don't trust me. Fair enough. I've given you reason not to. So you're to tunneled on me to not be able to find a way to doubt anything I can tell you. If you have more specific questions I can try and help you get there that way, but I'm not going to be able to sell you on trusting me in the way you're asking here.
;______; this looks townie y'all
Lol no it doesn't.
"I only look bad because the players making decent points about me are wolves" is not...
Just no. I disagree.
Re: Corrupt!? Mafia (D3)
Posted: Mon May 18, 2020 11:47 am
by Johann
I will give you credit when its due. If you wanna catch mafia you have to put yourself in their skin.
But what was really that point of boo? What purpose did it serve? Did it help us in any way? No ofc not
Because it isn't something useful to us
Re: Corrupt!? Mafia (D2)
Posted: Mon May 18, 2020 11:48 am
by Funnygurl555
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon May 18, 2020 11:45 am
Need I remind you that wolves say all kinds of shit.
Johann wrote: ↑Mon May 18, 2020 11:45 am
When it comes to that kind of talk i believe mafia is the one that has to think about it
Town doesn't have to think about that - it aint in our place to do so - our goal is simple
Mafia on other hand has to talk about such mechanics and all possibilities
boo was replying to dusk thinking about his own death and he called it predictable and.... "unimaginative"
His whole post has no use for us tho? Everyone already knew Dush being poisoned is obv.
Did we really need an essay on it why?
boo wrote: ↑Mon May 18, 2020 11:23 am
@G-Man Jack and Mac are running a divide and conquer gambit. It's playing off of Johann's total distrust of me, your and Wilgy's general not keeping up, FGs regularly going all over the place as she tries to make up her mind, and my ability to generally alienate other town. I'm not really sure how they're fitting in Hyena.
If you trust your gut, (currently) vote for me, along with me and Nanook. We may need to shift the vote over to FG later in the day, bit that's where things currently stand.
In case you get the gun.
Who dies?
TBD. Nanook had a list somewhere, someone in it. I'd like to think Mac and Jack are teammates, but it seems a bit too easy. I think it's probably only actually one of them, and the other is playing the other.
I can see Mac as scum more than Jack
Sell me that pitch by your words and not nanooks
I'm not really invested in you voting with me. Whichever one of them hatched this scheme doesn't expect you to be on my side of this, and even then, I still see being able to get the numbers to burn them on what they did here. So if you're more open-minded then they thought, it's still easier for me to show you that it's worth risking trusting me through my interactions with other people, not directly with you. You don't trust me. Fair enough. I've given you reason not to. So you're to tunneled on me to not be able to find a way to doubt anything I can tell you. If you have more specific questions I can try and help you get there that way, but I'm not going to be able to sell you on trusting me in the way you're asking here.
;______; this looks townie y'all
Lol no it doesn't.
"I only look bad because the players making decent points about me are wolves" is not...
Just no. I disagree.
he isn't trying to recruit people to his side he's just doing his own thing
Re: Corrupt!? Mafia (D3)
Posted: Mon May 18, 2020 11:49 am
by MacDougall
"Hatched this scheme" is not something townies actually say. It's hilariously bullshit.
Johann wrote: ↑Mon May 18, 2020 11:45 am
When it comes to that kind of talk i believe mafia is the one that has to think about it
Town doesn't have to think about that - it aint in our place to do so - our goal is simple
Mafia on other hand has to talk about such mechanics and all possibilities
boo was replying to dusk thinking about his own death and he called it predictable and.... "unimaginative"
His whole post has no use for us tho? Everyone already knew Dush being poisoned is obv.
Did we really need an essay on it why?
boo has made any essays. i'm not surprised he made one about night kill speculation
Re: Corrupt!? Mafia (D3)
Posted: Mon May 18, 2020 11:50 am
by Jackofhearts2005
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon May 18, 2020 11:38 am
Yeah I’ve never seen a townie that ends up fighting half the town.
Never in my life.
Not once.
Pretty sure you're talking about Boo but my devil's advocate answer is "Me in like every game."
Johann wrote: ↑Mon May 18, 2020 11:25 am
In case you get the gun.
Who dies?
TBD. Nanook had a list somewhere, someone in it. I'd like to think Mac and Jack are teammates, but it seems a bit too easy. I think it's probably only actually one of them, and the other is playing the other.
I can see Mac as scum more than Jack
Sell me that pitch by your words and not nanooks
I'm not really invested in you voting with me. Whichever one of them hatched this scheme doesn't expect you to be on my side of this, and even then, I still see being able to get the numbers to burn them on what they did here. So if you're more open-minded then they thought, it's still easier for me to show you that it's worth risking trusting me through my interactions with other people, not directly with you. You don't trust me. Fair enough. I've given you reason not to. So you're to tunneled on me to not be able to find a way to doubt anything I can tell you. If you have more specific questions I can try and help you get there that way, but I'm not going to be able to sell you on trusting me in the way you're asking here.
;______; this looks townie y'all
Lol no it doesn't.
"I only look bad because the players making decent points about me are wolves" is not...
Just no. I disagree.
he isn't trying to recruit people to his side he's just doing his own thing
He is currently the most present and focused on contributing making he has been all game or at least since his omgus on Nutella and it's to OMGUS me and Jack. He hasn't even attempted to ISO or gamesolve and is preferring to ate and accuse us of masterminding schemes and being out to get him.
Johann wrote: ↑Mon May 18, 2020 11:45 am
When it comes to that kind of talk i believe mafia is the one that has to think about it
Town doesn't have to think about that - it aint in our place to do so - our goal is simple
Mafia on other hand has to talk about such mechanics and all possibilities
boo was replying to dusk thinking about his own death and he called it predictable and.... "unimaginative"
His whole post has no use for us tho? Everyone already knew Dush being poisoned is obv.
Did we really need an essay on it why?
boo has made any essays. i'm not surprised he made one about night kill speculation
So let me get this straight
Out of all post boo has done - the one he talks about why dusk was poisoned when we all know why dusk was poisoned - is what makes him a townie to you?
Cause that what it is when it you break it down to the core
Re: Corrupt!? Mafia (D3)
Posted: Mon May 18, 2020 11:52 am
by MacDougall
Johann can have my vote for now because he's making the most sense aside from Jack despite his bad read on me. Johann just promise to ISO me if you do get the gun. If you do and still think I'm scum and shoot me c'est la vie.
TBD. Nanook had a list somewhere, someone in it. I'd like to think Mac and Jack are teammates, but it seems a bit too easy. I think it's probably only actually one of them, and the other is playing the other.
I can see Mac as scum more than Jack
Sell me that pitch by your words and not nanooks
I'm not really invested in you voting with me. Whichever one of them hatched this scheme doesn't expect you to be on my side of this, and even then, I still see being able to get the numbers to burn them on what they did here. So if you're more open-minded then they thought, it's still easier for me to show you that it's worth risking trusting me through my interactions with other people, not directly with you. You don't trust me. Fair enough. I've given you reason not to. So you're to tunneled on me to not be able to find a way to doubt anything I can tell you. If you have more specific questions I can try and help you get there that way, but I'm not going to be able to sell you on trusting me in the way you're asking here.
;______; this looks townie y'all
Lol no it doesn't.
"I only look bad because the players making decent points about me are wolves" is not...
Just no. I disagree.
he isn't trying to recruit people to his side he's just doing his own thing
He is currently the most present and focused on contributing making he has been all game or at least since his omgus on Nutella and it's to OMGUS me and Jack. He hasn't even attempted to ISO or gamesolve and is preferring to ate and accuse us of masterminding schemes and being out to get him.
that's not how i interpreted his game, tbh. but i would appreciate more solving from him rn, more than "it's mac and jack" (that rhymes)
boo wrote: ↑Mon May 18, 2020 11:23 am
@G-Man Jack and Mac are running a divide and conquer gambit. It's playing off of Johann's total distrust of me, your and Wilgy's general not keeping up, FGs regularly going all over the place as she tries to make up her mind, and my ability to generally alienate other town. I'm not really sure how they're fitting in Hyena.
If you trust your gut, (currently) vote for me, along with me and Nanook. We may need to shift the vote over to FG later in the day, bit that's where things currently stand.
In case you get the gun.
Who dies?
TBD. Nanook had a list somewhere, someone in it. I'd like to think Mac and Jack are teammates, but it seems a bit too easy. I think it's probably only actually one of them, and the other is playing the other.
I can see Mac as scum more than Jack
Sell me that pitch by your words and not nanooks
I'm not really invested in you voting with me. Whichever one of them hatched this scheme doesn't expect you to be on my side of this, and even then, I still see being able to get the numbers to burn them on what they did here. So if you're more open-minded then they thought, it's still easier for me to show you that it's worth risking trusting me through my interactions with other people, not directly with you. You don't trust me. Fair enough. I've given you reason not to. So you're to tunneled on me to not be able to find a way to doubt anything I can tell you. If you have more specific questions I can try and help you get there that way, but I'm not going to be able to sell you on trusting me in the way you're asking here.
Listen here.
Those 2 have no influence on me what so ever, no one in this game does. I don't know any of you besides Dragomir. You maybe are my prime shot but i am not an idiot that will close them self in the shell and donkey it.
I am asking you a simple question. As someone who sees part of dougal that's scummy - why do YOU wanna kill him
The same reason anyone wants to kill anyone in mafia (well. usually, at least), I believe it's part of my win condition. I can see what Mac is trying to do here, but I think he misplayed, is mafia, and does not have the numbers to make his plan work. It could be close, but it's increasingly looking like it won't be. He's even lost you. Maybe not fully, but enough.
Johann wrote: ↑Mon May 18, 2020 11:45 am
When it comes to that kind of talk i believe mafia is the one that has to think about it
Town doesn't have to think about that - it aint in our place to do so - our goal is simple
Mafia on other hand has to talk about such mechanics and all possibilities
boo was replying to dusk thinking about his own death and he called it predictable and.... "unimaginative"
His whole post has no use for us tho? Everyone already knew Dush being poisoned is obv.
Did we really need an essay on it why?
boo has made any essays. i'm not surprised he made one about night kill speculation
So let me get this straight
Out of all post boo has done - the one he talks about why dusk was poisoned when we all know why dusk was poisoned - is what makes him a townie to you?
Cause that what it is when it you break it down to the core
yes
Re: Corrupt!? Mafia (D3)
Posted: Mon May 18, 2020 11:53 am
by Jackofhearts2005
I actually think Mac looks real town from his play calendar today.
boo wrote: ↑Mon May 18, 2020 11:23 am
@G-Man Jack and Mac are running a divide and conquer gambit. It's playing off of Johann's total distrust of me, your and Wilgy's general not keeping up, FGs regularly going all over the place as she tries to make up her mind, and my ability to generally alienate other town. I'm not really sure how they're fitting in Hyena.
If you trust your gut, (currently) vote for me, along with me and Nanook. We may need to shift the vote over to FG later in the day, bit that's where things currently stand.
In case you get the gun.
Who dies?
TBD. Nanook had a list somewhere, someone in it. I'd like to think Mac and Jack are teammates, but it seems a bit too easy. I think it's probably only actually one of them, and the other is playing the other.
I can see Mac as scum more than Jack
Sell me that pitch by your words and not nanooks
I'm not really invested in you voting with me. Whichever one of them hatched this scheme doesn't expect you to be on my side of this, and even then, I still see being able to get the numbers to burn them on what they did here. So if you're more open-minded then they thought, it's still easier for me to show you that it's worth risking trusting me through my interactions with other people, not directly with you. You don't trust me. Fair enough. I've given you reason not to. So you're to tunneled on me to not be able to find a way to doubt anything I can tell you. If you have more specific questions I can try and help you get there that way, but I'm not going to be able to sell you on trusting me in the way you're asking here.
Listen here.
Those 2 have no influence on me what so ever, no one in this game does. I don't know any of you besides Dragomir. You maybe are my prime shot but i am not an idiot that will close them self in the shell and donkey it.
I am asking you a simple question. As someone who sees part of dougal that's scummy - why do YOU wanna kill him
The same reason anyone wants to kill anyone in mafia (well. usually, at least), I believe it's part of my win condition. I can see what Mac is trying to do here, but I think he misplayed, is mafia, and does not have the numbers to make his plan work. It could be close, but it's increasingly looking like it won't be. He's even lost you. Maybe not fully, but enough.
Ok
Listen here
Can you stop playing the victim for a second and answer in a simple manner - WHY DO YOU THINK DOUGALL IS SCUM.
I don't wanna hear stuff like " i can see what mac is trying to do here"
Like you have to have a reason , a reason you can put in words why is he scum. If you do put it in words or by god i will put a bullet in you
Johann wrote: ↑Mon May 18, 2020 11:45 am
When it comes to that kind of talk i believe mafia is the one that has to think about it
Town doesn't have to think about that - it aint in our place to do so - our goal is simple
Mafia on other hand has to talk about such mechanics and all possibilities
boo was replying to dusk thinking about his own death and he called it predictable and.... "unimaginative"
His whole post has no use for us tho? Everyone already knew Dush being poisoned is obv.
Did we really need an essay on it why?
boo has made any essays. i'm not surprised he made one about night kill speculation
So let me get this straight
Out of all post boo has done - the one he talks about why dusk was poisoned when we all know why dusk was poisoned - is what makes him a townie to you?
Cause that what it is when it you break it down to the core
yes
So non of his reads, plays, opinions besides that is giving you town vibes?
Re: Corrupt!? Mafia (D3)
Posted: Mon May 18, 2020 11:58 am
by MacDougall
I'm scum because I am adamant he is. It makes sense from both our vantage points tbh. It's just that I don't make any sense and you can't and nobody has actually made a case on me.
Boo on the other hand...........
.........
Re: Corrupt!? Mafia (D3)
Posted: Mon May 18, 2020 11:58 am
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
I strongly do not want Johann to have the gun
Re: Corrupt!? Mafia (D3)
Posted: Mon May 18, 2020 11:59 am
by MacDougall
Remember when I had a mental breakdown cuz I wrongly shot nutella instead of going with my gut on Jack and then got super defensive and cut and skipped out on almost an entire phase.
Re: Corrupt!? Mafia (D3)
Posted: Mon May 18, 2020 11:59 am
by MacDougall
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon May 18, 2020 11:58 am
I strongly do not want Johann to have the gun
I miss mind melding with you.
Re: Corrupt!? Mafia (D3)
Posted: Mon May 18, 2020 12:00 pm
by Johann
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon May 18, 2020 11:58 am
I strongly do not want Johann to have the gun
Because i will shoot the person most here decide on?
Re: Corrupt!? Mafia (D3)
Posted: Mon May 18, 2020 12:01 pm
by MacDougall
Okay maybe it's not Boo.
@Boo what if it's Jack and Wilgy? Does that make sense to you?
