The Syndicate

Posted: **Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:47 pm**

Yo, let’s try this:
[VOTE: Michelle] aubergine

Posted: **Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:48 pm**

esooa, are you scum

Posted: **Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:49 pm**

i have taco bell = )

also ftr, i'm going to re-ISO a couple of the people in contention after work tonight (ellie, LC, DOOM) but right now i'm just vibing

Posted: **Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:49 pm**

EllieDelight wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:48 pm esooa, are you scum

yes

Posted: **Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:51 pm**

Esooa wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:49 pm
EllieDelight wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:48 pm esooa, are you scum
yes

Dope! Who are your teammates??

Posted: **Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:52 pm**

Made wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:51 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:49 pm
EllieDelight wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:48 pm esooa, are you scum
yes
Dope! Who are your teammates??

LC Alison

Posted: **Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:52 pm**

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:38 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:35 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:29 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:20 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:16 pm i switched my vote to made because it felt right

but i might switch back
awfully convenient that you're putting Made up for contention to be a wagon when Ellie is gaining traction and LC is losing it
dunno if i would say that the LC wagon is losing traction - he still seems to be the consensus scumread, and i still scumread him. i'm just satisfied with the amount of pressure that he's under right now, and it feels beneficial to push outside and see how it impacts my reads

i'm willing to consider an ellie!scum world - do u have any major points against her?
he still is, but he's beginning not to be. Points against her are the thing she did earlier with 1 scum in x/x seemed extremely set up. Thinking back on it though, it presumed that if LC was town you were mafia, right? Wonder how that functions with my teamreads on her. Regardless, she did that. She's outing reads in a way and frequency completely different to her town game, and I really don't see how she could progress in her town games so much from one game to another. It feels like TMI. Her town game I linked earlier was in a low posting game with newer players, and she had barely any reads. I had to tell her to ISO someone to get more than like 2 and she came out of it with a null read. This game the players are way stronger and there's 10x more posts and somehow she comes out of this with more confidence. I understand why for a lot of people more content=more confident reads, but Ellie's other games were decently low volume, so I don't see how this isn't at least a little overwhelming. This is supported by the fact her town reads didn't have much depth.
[VOTE: ellie] aubergine

you sold me. there are some moments from ellie that i like tonally, but her reads have a level of internal confidence behind them that aren't backed up by the thought processes that she's outed. the point you raised about her reads as town barely existing makes her level of confidence in this game concerning to me. i'll pressure her w/you

mmmmm

Posted: **Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:52 pm**

Esooa wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:49 pm
EllieDelight wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:48 pm esooa, are you scum
yes

"3rd person will make themselves known"
gg ez bois, ✌

Posted: **Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:53 pm**

EllieDelight wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:42 pm oof if i get baked im gonna be upset, this game is fun. like, cmon guys, we literally have this game solved. if i die that you'll see my reads are right and it just means i can't participate.
and i already said i have a reason for playing different, im just not gonna share it.

hmmmm

Posted: **Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:54 pm**

Esooa wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:52 pm
Made wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:51 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:49 pm
EllieDelight wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:48 pm esooa, are you scum
yes
Dope! Who are your teammates??
LC Alison

i've been tinfoiling a you/LC world lol

Posted: **Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:54 pm**

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:44 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:43 pm oh ok we are podracing
Is that a term for something?

the wagons being neck and neck

Posted: **Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:55 pm**

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:54 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:52 pm
Made wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:51 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:49 pm
EllieDelight wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:48 pm esooa, are you scum
yes
Dope! Who are your teammates??
LC Alison
i've been tinfoiling a you/LC world lol

I know

Posted: **Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:55 pm**

ok i am staying on lc for now

but things are spicing up

Posted: **Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:56 pm**

can i just take a nap and wake up when theres less of u to sort like d3

Posted: **Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:57 pm**

this is too much information for me to process

Posted: **Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:58 pm**

also how do i find the vote history on the poll thingy

Posted: **Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:59 pm**

Ellie top wagon over LC we did it boys

Posted: **Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:59 pm**

ok u know what im just gonna keep a running imgur album of vote counts so i can do vca later on in the game

Posted: **Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:59 pm**

wait why are ppl even voting spf

Posted: **Wed Jan 20, 2021 8:00 pm**

@tutuu @Michelle explain ur votes

Posted: **Wed Jan 20, 2021 8:00 pm**

DkKoba wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:59 pm wait why are ppl even voting spf

homophobia, probably

Posted: **Wed Jan 20, 2021 8:05 pm**

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 8:00 pm
DkKoba wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:59 pm wait why are ppl even voting spf
homophobia, probably

im a known homophone and i am not voting there so what is this slander

Posted: **Wed Jan 20, 2021 8:26 pm**

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 12:16 am
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 12:15 am i forgot to put it in the thread but im voting long con rn too
Perfect. No one with this early of a Day 1 vote lead ever gets chopped.

goat

Posted: **Wed Jan 20, 2021 8:31 pm**

Esooa wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:59 pm Ellie top wagon over LC we did it boys

i swear if you get me killed I will go off on you on discord later.

Posted: **Wed Jan 20, 2021 8:34 pm**

EllieDelight wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 8:31 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:59 pm Ellie top wagon over LC we did it boys
i swear if you get me killed I will go off on you on discord later.

if you don't want to get killed show why you are town by having more depth to your reads or explain the playstyle difference or revaluate Michelle long con and come out with wolf reads I like from you

Posted: **Wed Jan 20, 2021 8:37 pm**

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 6:47 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 6:43 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 6:42 pm Look

Idk if I’ll fight for them long term

But I’d like to not kill doom or Ellie today

And no esooa’s read on Ellie doesn’t sway me at all
Why tho
I still kinda think they’re both town!

Relevant to you for Ellie at least, she’s very likely not teamed with Michelle who is in your POE afaik, i don’t think LC is very partnery with her, so that should be enough to buy her a day I’d say

I don’t really have a great argument for doom beyond that it feels like she has strong martin vibes where people often want to SR them when they’re being serious cause they can come across as a bit stilted to those of us more used to the casual syndicate conversational style posting.

I updated Michelle to town. I think Ellie has more scum equity than LC. So those arguments do not appeal to me.

Posted: **Wed Jan 20, 2021 8:38 pm**

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 6:54 pm
DkKoba wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 6:51 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 6:47 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 6:43 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 6:42 pm Look

Idk if I’ll fight for them long term

But I’d like to not kill doom or Ellie today

And no esooa’s read on Ellie doesn’t sway me at all
Why tho
I still kinda think they’re both town!

Relevant to you for Ellie at least, she’s very likely not teamed with Michelle who is in your POE afaik, i don’t think LC is very partnery with her, so that should be enough to buy her a day I’d say

I don’t really have a great argument for doom beyond that it feels like she has strong martin vibes where people often want to SR them when they’re being serious cause they can come across as a bit stilted to those of us more used to the casual syndicate conversational style posting.
can u reword this and explain like im 5?
Ellie has lower likelihood of being partnered with other people in Mac’s poe, so she has lower likelihood of being mafia in general from his POV.

Doom reminds me of another player that gets scumread wrongly for similar stuff.

your understanding of my POE is wrong

I currently have Ellie with Alison +1 tbh.

Posted: **Wed Jan 20, 2021 8:40 pm**

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:03 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 4:54 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 4:49 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 4:39 pm Hey Jay doesn't LC have to be scum for that read to be valid tho? What does it mean for poor Grogu if LC flips town?
I'm working right now so not really keeping up, so I don't know really what you're talking about, but I am going to flip town, factor that in if you want to make it easier on your brain.

Also I remember having an emotional back and forth with Nanook, but I don't remember which game was with Jay.
Who is bad?
I just want to know if you want a different answer than the last two people who asked, or the same one?

Is repeated post recollection alignment indicative for you, would you say?

if I knew what your previous answer was I would not have asked the question. Also do your scumreads not change? Do you not read content and update your opinions when new information arises? I know I do. My current reads for instance were not ones I had 12 hrs ago. Nanook did not ask me for my reads therefore had an incorrect opinion. So I guess what I am trying to say is don't be an asshole when I am trying to get into your mindset. Doing so makes you look scummier not townier.

Posted: **Wed Jan 20, 2021 8:42 pm**

EllieDelight wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:52 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:49 pm
EllieDelight wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:48 pm esooa, are you scum
yes
"3rd person will make themselves known"
gg ez bois, ✌

Genuinely funny.

Posted: **Wed Jan 20, 2021 8:43 pm**

nutella wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:54 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:44 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:43 pm oh ok we are podracing
Is that a term for something?
the wagons being neck and neck

Thanks! Is that from the Phantom Menace pods having two engine-thingys side-by-side, or is it about two racers?

Posted: **Wed Jan 20, 2021 8:44 pm**

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:16 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:13 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:12 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:10 pm
DkKoba wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:09 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:07 pm
DkKoba wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:05 pm

ok well this seems extremely vague and noncommittal

how strong is this read to you?
You seem vague and noncommittal

Strong enough I don’t want them to die D1
I'm not but ok. What's ur PoE rn?
Today it’s made and LC basically
How about you start again and reconsider that?
Unlikely to happen atp
We're not even halfway through Day 1 and you are no longer updating your reads?

This doesn't make sense as a push in light of what you just said to me.

Posted: **Wed Jan 20, 2021 8:44 pm**

nutella wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:55 pm ok i am staying on lc for now

but things are spicing up

Probably best, keep the spread, it's not even halfway through.

Posted: **Wed Jan 20, 2021 8:45 pm**

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:21 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 6:33 pm Personally I don't think he's been very scummy but some people I am townreading who know him very well are sure that he is. I'm actually not sure his reaction was incredulous ENOUGH given the circumstances. Like he got snarky but if I'm town with 7 votes on d1 after posting fuck all I would be a sight more snarkier. I also think Ellie is scummier than him and have grown weary that we're looking at Alison's scumgame and they're both voting him.
Yeah but I have a lot more experience than you with this situation.

So... you're claiming mafia?

Posted: **Wed Jan 20, 2021 8:45 pm**

DkKoba wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:56 pm can i just take a nap and wake up when theres less of u to sort like d3

DkKoba wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:57 pm this is too much information for me to process

That's how I mostly try to play.

Posted: **Wed Jan 20, 2021 8:57 pm**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 8:40 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:03 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 4:54 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 4:49 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 4:39 pm Hey Jay doesn't LC have to be scum for that read to be valid tho? What does it mean for poor Grogu if LC flips town?
I'm working right now so not really keeping up, so I don't know really what you're talking about, but I am going to flip town, factor that in if you want to make it easier on your brain.

Also I remember having an emotional back and forth with Nanook, but I don't remember which game was with Jay.
Who is bad?
I just want to know if you want a different answer than the last two people who asked, or the same one?

Is repeated post recollection alignment indicative for you, would you say?
if I knew what your previous answer was I would not have asked the question. Also do your scumreads not change? Do you not read content and update your opinions when new information arises? I know I do. My current reads for instance were not ones I had 12 hrs ago. Nanook did not ask me for my reads therefore had an incorrect opinion. So I guess what I am trying to say is don't be an asshole when I am trying to get into your mindset. Doing so makes you look scummier not townier.

I'm sorry, you're right. And the answers were different for the last two.... and the last one was almost 12 hours ago at this point. I think it's because I answered it this morning before work, and for me, very little mafia-time has passed due to me working and doing very little online. I said Alison, Nanook, and Ellie last time, and I still like it.

I don't suspect Grogu, Mac, Esooa, DkK, tutuu, Made... uhhh I can't think of the whole playerlist off the top of my head. JJJ or nutella might be scum.

Posted: **Wed Jan 20, 2021 8:58 pm**

SPF is too saturated for me to parse right now.

Posted: **Wed Jan 20, 2021 8:59 pm**

And if scumreads not changing is scummy to you... Nanook is in that zone right now. You scumread?

Posted: **Wed Jan 20, 2021 9:00 pm**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 8:45 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:21 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 6:33 pm Personally I don't think he's been very scummy but some people I am townreading who know him very well are sure that he is. I'm actually not sure his reaction was incredulous ENOUGH given the circumstances. Like he got snarky but if I'm town with 7 votes on d1 after posting fuck all I would be a sight more snarkier. I also think Ellie is scummier than him and have grown weary that we're looking at Alison's scumgame and they're both voting him.
Yeah but I have a lot more experience than you with this situation.
So... you're claiming mafia?

I have a lot more experience than you with this situation, in that my reaction to getting broadly scumread isn't likely to be all that incredulous.

Posted: **Wed Jan 20, 2021 9:02 pm**

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 9:00 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 8:45 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:21 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 6:33 pm Personally I don't think he's been very scummy but some people I am townreading who know him very well are sure that he is. I'm actually not sure his reaction was incredulous ENOUGH given the circumstances. Like he got snarky but if I'm town with 7 votes on d1 after posting fuck all I would be a sight more snarkier. I also think Ellie is scummier than him and have grown weary that we're looking at Alison's scumgame and they're both voting him.
Yeah but I have a lot more experience than you with this situation.
So... you're claiming mafia?
I have a lot more experience than you with this situation, in that my reaction to getting broadly scumread isn't likely to be all that incredulous.

lol fair enuff

Posted: **Wed Jan 20, 2021 9:56 pm**

make posts ya scrotums

Posted: **Wed Jan 20, 2021 9:59 pm**

imgay

Posted: **Wed Jan 20, 2021 10:01 pm**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 9:56 pm make posts ya scrotums

Yeah, where'd everyone go? Goddamn timezones.

Posted: **Wed Jan 20, 2021 10:01 pm**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 9:56 pm make posts ya scrotums

be the change u wish to be in this world

Posted: **Wed Jan 20, 2021 10:02 pm**

im most available between 7-10 EST and this thread seems to die most around then

Posted: **Wed Jan 20, 2021 10:02 pm**

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 9:59 pm imgay

funny coincidence

Posted: **Wed Jan 20, 2021 10:02 pm**

DkKoba wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 10:02 pm im most available between 7-10 EST and this thread seems to die most around then

Me too.

So, you don't have an opinion of me, because you run on interactions, and we haven't interacted.

Posted: **Wed Jan 20, 2021 10:04 pm**

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 10:02 pm
DkKoba wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 10:02 pm im most available between 7-10 EST and this thread seems to die most around then
Me too.

So, you don't have an opinion of me, because you run on interactions, and we haven't interacted.

what makes u assume that vs asking me?

Posted: **Wed Jan 20, 2021 10:05 pm**

i'm tired and my brain isn't entirely up to par right now, so i am not going to do any damn investigative journalism

but if there are questions for me go for it

Posted: **Wed Jan 20, 2021 10:07 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 10:05 pm i'm tired and my brain isn't entirely up to par right now, so i am not going to do any damn investigative journalism

but if there are questions for me go for it

what pinged you wrt Made?

same question to Longcon but for Ellie

Posted: **Wed Jan 20, 2021 10:09 pm**

DkKoba wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 10:07 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 10:05 pm i'm tired and my brain isn't entirely up to par right now, so i am not going to do any damn investigative journalism

but if there are questions for me go for it
what pinged you wrt Made?

same question to Longcon but for Ellie

the most pressing reason for my current vote is less about "pings" and more about the lack of posts that make me want to call him town. there aren't many players left for whom i can say that.

one ping of sorts though would be his read on me. its origins (that i'm too helpful) are rather bogus, and the progression since that origin is unclear

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