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Re: Beelzebub The Benign D3

Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2021 12:19 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
Sloonei was wrong last time we did this. Nice work Sloonei.

Re: Beelzebub The Benign D3

Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2021 12:19 pm
by BoKnows
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Sat Apr 17, 2021 12:10 pm Samu insisted he was trying to solve the game which I guess is towny but his solve is {one of falcon,gav} and {?} and this seems like not a solve
You shouldn't have to insist that you're solving the game. We can see if people are trying to solve the game or not.

Re: Beelzebub The Benign D3

Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2021 12:20 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
BoKnows wrote: Sat Apr 17, 2021 12:19 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Sat Apr 17, 2021 12:10 pm Samu insisted he was trying to solve the game which I guess is towny but his solve is {one of falcon,gav} and {?} and this seems like not a solve
You shouldn't have to insist that you're solving the game. We can see if people are trying to solve the game or not.
Yeah but the insistence demonstrates something about mindset

Re: Beelzebub The Benign D3

Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2021 12:23 pm
by BoKnows
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Sat Apr 17, 2021 12:20 pm
BoKnows wrote: Sat Apr 17, 2021 12:19 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Sat Apr 17, 2021 12:10 pm Samu insisted he was trying to solve the game which I guess is towny but his solve is {one of falcon,gav} and {?} and this seems like not a solve
You shouldn't have to insist that you're solving the game. We can see if people are trying to solve the game or not.
Yeah but the insistence demonstrates something about mindset
What does it demonstrate?

Re: Beelzebub The Benign D3

Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2021 12:25 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
He’s disconnected with reality

Re: Beelzebub The Benign D3

Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2021 12:25 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
That’s I think townie a bit

Re: Beelzebub The Benign D3

Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2021 12:29 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
I’m personally not the most connected to reality myself

Re: Beelzebub The Benign D3

Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2021 12:30 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
I think I’m almost to the point where I can confidently say that if urist is town he’s the wrong one and not me

Re: Beelzebub The Benign D3

Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2021 12:30 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Sat Apr 17, 2021 12:29 pm I’m personally not the most connected to reality myself
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Sat Apr 17, 2021 12:30 pm I think I’m almost to the point where I can confidently say that if urist is town he’s the wrong one and not me
These might need to be taken together tbh

Re: Beelzebub The Benign D3

Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2021 12:48 pm
by BoKnows
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Sat Apr 17, 2021 12:29 pm I’m personally not the most connected to reality myself
This is how I feel about Gavial

Re: Beelzebub The Benign D3

Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2021 12:50 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
I have read maybe 12 gav posts all game

Re: Beelzebub The Benign D3

Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2021 12:57 pm
by Seanzie
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Sat Apr 17, 2021 12:12 pm
Seanzie wrote: Sat Apr 17, 2021 11:03 am Ehh, I don't know if we can trust Falcon or Urist, or Dunya for that matter, but idk if I want to yeet in there if they have powers that could really help town. TSP hasn't done anything though.

[VOTE: TSP] aubergine
true that makes me town (I’d venture you should know this)
No, it makes you unreadable, and possibly points to scum fatigue after your marathon performance in Fallout, or maybe just deliberately trying to look nothing like you did in Fallout.

Re: Beelzebub The Benign D3

Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2021 12:59 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
I think I’m readably town in this game but aside from that I’m way out of my scum meta in any case

Re: Beelzebub The Benign D3

Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2021 1:01 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
Enough about me do something

Re: Beelzebub The Benign D3

Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2021 1:11 pm
by Urist
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Sat Apr 17, 2021 12:30 pm I think I’m almost to the point where I can confidently say that if urist is town he’s the wrong one and not me
Rude

Re: Beelzebub The Benign D3

Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2021 1:11 pm
by Urist
Where do our reads differ tsp? What's your solve?

Re: Beelzebub The Benign D3

Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2021 2:12 pm
by Samusamu
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Sat Apr 17, 2021 12:07 pm
Samusamu wrote: Fri Apr 16, 2021 7:38 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Fri Apr 16, 2021 7:36 pm Trying to resolve in {falcon, gav} seems like a way to lose mafia
Why? I think that a gavial-urist town lock core is a strong and powerful card.
You aren’t locking gav as town if you say that
Samusamu wrote: Fri Apr 16, 2021 7:49 pm
falcon45ca wrote: Fri Apr 16, 2021 7:39 pm
Samusamu wrote: Fri Apr 16, 2021 7:35 pm
falcon45ca wrote: Fri Apr 16, 2021 7:29 pm
Samusamu wrote: Fri Apr 16, 2021 7:26 pm
falcon45ca wrote: Fri Apr 16, 2021 7:16 pm

It is true. Dunya gets her wincon if she's talked to half the remaining players by the end of game.


Did gavial give any details like this? No. Didn't mention the cost of his "red check" either, I had to ask. He's not been given a red check on me, it's impossible.


I am freely giving this info to the town. Why do I do this if I'm Maf? Think about it, I've been breadcrumbing my contact with dunya since it started.

U said u were vt now u are saying that you are freely giving the info to the town.

A town does no freely give anything, just share what he knows.

Are u a 3p

So u still are talking with dunya? Well what was the cost of the shoot of marmot?
I don't know what Marmot's cost was, I only know what my cost was. I asked her a question earlier today, but she hasn't responded.


Freely giving & sharing what I know is the same thing FYI
What more u know about the other players who have been in a deal with dunya?
Nothing really, just that she talked to Marmot & one of Urist/TSP. She wouldn't tell me who. She said she had it on good authority that I was gonna be shot soon, and not to reveal my convo with her as it would speed up my death.
It may seem like a ploy to keep you from talking. 🤔

It would be nice to check if you are going to die shot basically we would still be able to lynch and seize the day, if not it is still worth checking if your testimony is genuine, if your flip is green, with this you have handed us gavial and probably tsp on a platter since I have already explained urist I have him at 99% townlock.

And if you're red it's time to forget about this troll.

I also contemplate that dunya can lie to you, do you have any guarantee to say that he can't lie to you? I suppose that if dunya's condition is to make pacts with half of the living party, dunya will try to balance through his reads and his pacts both sides to reach the moment of having made pacts with half.

Do you know what happens if he achieves his goal? Does he win alone or does he continue the game?
Why not? A red check in falcon puts that lock to gavial

Re: Beelzebub The Benign D3

Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2021 2:12 pm
by Samusamu
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Sat Apr 17, 2021 12:08 pm I think falcon might be my strongest town but if gav is a wolf I think falcon might be lock wolf so I guess gav is my strongest town
Xd

Re: Beelzebub The Benign D3

Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2021 2:14 pm
by Samusamu
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Sat Apr 17, 2021 12:10 pm Samu insisted he was trying to solve the game which I guess is towny but his solve is {one of falcon,gav} and {?} and this seems like not a solve
I townread doom, bk in day 2, now townlock urist ans also try thinking if esooa was really scummy.

But you can know it without reading all the game.

Re: Beelzebub The Benign D3

Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2021 2:26 pm
by Samusamu
[VOTE: tsp] aubergine

Re: Beelzebub The Benign D3

Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2021 2:35 pm
by Gavial
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Sat Apr 17, 2021 12:00 pm Someone who said it can’t be samu/urist why can’t it be samu/urist
They never do what they did.

Re: Beelzebub The Benign D3

Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2021 2:36 pm
by Gavial
Samusamu wrote: Sat Apr 17, 2021 2:12 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Sat Apr 17, 2021 12:08 pm I think falcon might be my strongest town but if gav is a wolf I think falcon might be lock wolf so I guess gav is my strongest town
Xd
The fact he’s mentioning Falcon like this makes me wish there was a vote harder button.

Re: Beelzebub The Benign D3

Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2021 2:39 pm
by BoKnows
the hammer temptation

Re: Beelzebub The Benign D3

Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2021 3:26 pm
by Samusamu
BoKnows wrote: Sat Apr 17, 2021 2:39 pm the hammer temptation
Dale fuego 🌚🌚🌚

Re: Beelzebub The Benign D3

Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2021 3:37 pm
by Urist
BoKnows wrote: Sat Apr 17, 2021 2:39 pm the hammer temptation
Hammer is at 5.

Re: Beelzebub The Benign D3

Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2021 3:37 pm
by Urist
[VOTE: falcon] aubergine

Re: Beelzebub The Benign D3

Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2021 4:07 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
Urist wrote: Sat Apr 17, 2021 1:11 pm Where do our reads differ tsp? What's your solve?
I think it has to be one of sean/bk almost in any world. I can't really read either of them though. Probably Sean?

Re: Beelzebub The Benign D3

Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2021 4:07 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
Samusamu wrote: Sat Apr 17, 2021 2:14 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Sat Apr 17, 2021 12:10 pm Samu insisted he was trying to solve the game which I guess is towny but his solve is {one of falcon,gav} and {?} and this seems like not a solve
I townread doom, bk in day 2, now townlock urist ans also try thinking if esooa was really scummy.

But you can know it without reading all the game.
ftr I townread both doom AND esooa which is twice as good

Re: Beelzebub The Benign D3

Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2021 4:07 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
Samusamu wrote: Sat Apr 17, 2021 2:12 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Sat Apr 17, 2021 12:07 pm
Samusamu wrote: Fri Apr 16, 2021 7:38 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Fri Apr 16, 2021 7:36 pm Trying to resolve in {falcon, gav} seems like a way to lose mafia
Why? I think that a gavial-urist town lock core is a strong and powerful card.
You aren’t locking gav as town if you say that
Samusamu wrote: Fri Apr 16, 2021 7:49 pm
falcon45ca wrote: Fri Apr 16, 2021 7:39 pm
Samusamu wrote: Fri Apr 16, 2021 7:35 pm
falcon45ca wrote: Fri Apr 16, 2021 7:29 pm
Samusamu wrote: Fri Apr 16, 2021 7:26 pm


U said u were vt now u are saying that you are freely giving the info to the town.

A town does no freely give anything, just share what he knows.

Are u a 3p

So u still are talking with dunya? Well what was the cost of the shoot of marmot?
I don't know what Marmot's cost was, I only know what my cost was. I asked her a question earlier today, but she hasn't responded.


Freely giving & sharing what I know is the same thing FYI
What more u know about the other players who have been in a deal with dunya?
Nothing really, just that she talked to Marmot & one of Urist/TSP. She wouldn't tell me who. She said she had it on good authority that I was gonna be shot soon, and not to reveal my convo with her as it would speed up my death.
It may seem like a ploy to keep you from talking. 🤔

It would be nice to check if you are going to die shot basically we would still be able to lynch and seize the day, if not it is still worth checking if your testimony is genuine, if your flip is green, with this you have handed us gavial and probably tsp on a platter since I have already explained urist I have him at 99% townlock.

And if you're red it's time to forget about this troll.

I also contemplate that dunya can lie to you, do you have any guarantee to say that he can't lie to you? I suppose that if dunya's condition is to make pacts with half of the living party, dunya will try to balance through his reads and his pacts both sides to reach the moment of having made pacts with half.

Do you know what happens if he achieves his goal? Does he win alone or does he continue the game?
Why not? A red check in falcon puts that lock to gavial

how do you figure

Re: Beelzebub The Benign D3

Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2021 4:09 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
like it seems to me that falcon and gav very likely have the same alignment and you seem convinced that they have opposite alignments

Re: Beelzebub The Benign D3

Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2021 4:09 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
tempted to start scumreading gav because I read two of his posts but I'm not letting myself do it

Re: Beelzebub The Benign D3

Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2021 4:11 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME put sloonei's iso in the host post

Re: Beelzebub The Benign D1

Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2021 4:13 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
Seanzie wrote: Sun Apr 11, 2021 7:50 am So the game is something like this. The middle group is only vaguely sorted.

Gavial

Samusamu
Doom

LC
Marmot
Hollowkatt
Boknows
Alison

Esooa
Tsp

Falcon
Urist

Dunia - literally a demon

JessieKruger - No posts, unsorted.

Seanzie
can eliminate Sean/bo

Re: Beelzebub The Benign D1

Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2021 4:15 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
Seanzie wrote: Sun Apr 11, 2021 4:30 pm Pretty sure Hollowkatt/Esooa is a thing, and Hollowkatt just slipped. They probably planned to flip to me in wolf chat, and Hollowkatt forgot what order it went in.
ehhh

Re: Beelzebub The Benign D3

Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2021 4:16 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
a thought just occurred to me:

there has to be a wolf with a sense of reality because jay died

Re: Beelzebub The Benign D3

Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2021 4:16 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
which I think at this point means one of bo/urist

Re: Beelzebub The Benign D3

Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2021 4:21 pm
by Gavial
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Sat Apr 17, 2021 12:08 pm I think falcon might be my strongest town but if gav is a wolf I think falcon might be lock wolf so I guess gav is my strongest town
And Falcon!Wolf?

Re: Beelzebub The Benign D3

Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2021 4:22 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
falcon feels very town to me idk

Re: Beelzebub The Benign D1

Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2021 4:23 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
hollowkatt wrote: Sun Apr 11, 2021 2:38 pm where I'm at:
town
Gavail
Marmot
Sam

leans town
Doom
Esooa

everyone else is some flavor of POE or another, or I'm not paying attention
rule of five

Re: Beelzebub The Benign D3

Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2021 4:23 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
ok at this point I think this is actually useful

Re: Beelzebub The Benign D3

Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2021 4:24 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
time to call in a favor

Re: Beelzebub The Benign D3

Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2021 4:25 pm
by Gavial
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Sat Apr 17, 2021 12:59 pm I think I’m readably town in this game but aside from that I’m way out of my scum meta in any case
So does Falcon.

Re: Beelzebub The Benign D1

Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2021 4:25 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
Gavial wrote: Sun Apr 11, 2021 12:14 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Sun Apr 11, 2021 12:04 pm Gavial wanna hard buddy all game? The opposite of last time
Sure, I’ll vote you when only my TR’s remain.
It’d probably be you last scum at that point if your scum.
@Gavial you can't vote me you promised

Re: Beelzebub The Benign D3

Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2021 4:26 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
Gavial wrote: Sat Apr 17, 2021 4:25 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Sat Apr 17, 2021 12:59 pm I think I’m readably town in this game but aside from that I’m way out of my scum meta in any case
So does Falcon.
yeah because he's town :P

Re: Beelzebub The Benign D3

Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2021 4:26 pm
by Gavial
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Sat Apr 17, 2021 4:22 pm falcon feels very town to me idk
If Falcon flips Wolf, am I Wolf?

Re: Beelzebub The Benign D3

Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2021 4:27 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
yeah probably but he won't

Re: Beelzebub The Benign D3

Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2021 4:27 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
you directly asking makes me more sure that I'm right that you're not w/v and less sure that I'm right that you're v/v

Re: Beelzebub The Benign D3

Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2021 4:28 pm
by Gavial
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Sat Apr 17, 2021 4:25 pm
Gavial wrote: Sun Apr 11, 2021 12:14 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Sun Apr 11, 2021 12:04 pm Gavial wanna hard buddy all game? The opposite of last time
Sure, I’ll vote you when only my TR’s remain.
It’d probably be you last scum at that point if your scum.
@Gavial you can't vote me you promised
The only one that remains is you and Falcon.
What now?
Your move love.

Re: Beelzebub The Benign D3

Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2021 4:29 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
you can vote for falcon then smh

Re: Beelzebub The Benign D3

Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2021 4:29 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
voting for falcon is a losing proposition but rather him than me