The Syndicate

>Do not post during night phases please, even if the thread is open.


maybe guillo changed his mind? *sweats*

honey wrote: ↑Sat Jul 17, 2021 11:16 am Also i kinda think flea is just chaotic town sry osie i think the tunnel is misplaced

I know I loved you for a reason <3

Creature wrote: ↑Sat Jul 17, 2021 2:12 pm Lime Cock

*stares in asexual fear*

Flea the Magician wrote: ↑Sat Jul 17, 2021 2:29 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Sat Jul 17, 2021 2:12 pm Lime Cock

*stares in asexual fear*

Fuck I didn't even catch that.

honey wrote: ↑Sat Jul 17, 2021 11:16 am Also i kinda think flea is just chaotic town sry osie i think the tunnel is misplaced

Yeah their response felt like townie frustration and there's more of a link from Michelle to the others. They could be cftwr, but for the moment I am moving them up in my reads.

Michelle on Ender:
Ok, so to unpack this. The only way I see Ender bad here is is Michelle is comfortable as a wolf leaving her vote on a teammate. Her saving vote at the end placing on mansnicks is a little too on the nose IMO. But it could be something there. She has subtle cases on other people and the lomo vote could be a time where she felt comfortable voting away from Ender without looking suspicious.

After all this, I think I have to cede to someone who knows Michelle’s scum game: Would she passively bus a teammate for most of the day?
I’m no longer on Ender being a townread, and put him as firm scum lean if someone can confirm Michelle would do this as scum.

also whoever doesnt talk here at night is maf guillo cant kill all of us

time to rise up and seize the means of production

honey wrote: ↑Sat Jul 17, 2021 3:09 pm also whoever doesnt talk here at night is maf guillo cant kill all of us

I think you underestimate Thanos our host

Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Jul 17, 2021 3:07 pm Michelle on Ender:

Spoiler: show

Michelle votes Ender D1, becoming the first vote on Ender.
Creature then almost immediately votes Ender too, to which Michelle finds suspicious. Almost as if she didn’t expect anyone to sheep her.

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 2:44 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 2:30 pm I'll prob stick with voting Ender because something feels fishy about them

What made you vote?
What's fishy?

But she keeps the vote there.

In short i have

Mansnicks
Mac
HK
For top TRs

Creature
Ender
For top SRs

Still top SRs Ender.

Meanwhile I also voted Ender and he is the leading wagon at 3. Michelle still hasn’t changed votes.

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 1:57 am

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 6:45 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 2:15 pm Kinda don't like Michelle, ngl.

Kinda agree ngl

Explain
Otoh i have you as wolf read, so it's a logical thing you'd do as either AI

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 6:50 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 3:29 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 3:15 pm
Yes, I am not sure about my read. Should I be? If it isn't clear, it was a scumlean on you.

It isn't a waste of a post for me to express how I feel about a slot in the game. Do you expect no one to voice scumreads?

Why are you quoting a ton of posts but not actually doing anything with them/talking about them?

I expect reads, not shades. Your post pinged me hard because we have no history and we didn't interact at all, and the wording was wishy-washy
For eg my suspicion on Creature is based on meta of multiple games and his lack of content in this game.

I just want to keep those posts in my Iso for later in the game, if i am alive i iso myself to see what i found interesting in day 1- this is a day to obtain infos.

Can you post some reads? a list would be enough.

Creature has lack of content in every game on here I've played with him.

Creature can post genuine and complain for lack of motivation as wolf. Equalising his wolf meta with his town meta on site is easy
I have more than 3 games experience as both alignaments, so your meta is incomplete

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 6:59 pm

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 5:34 pm Well what I've gotten so far-

Townreading:
Honey
TH
Scott
Alison

Scumreading
Creature
Mansnicks

[VOTE: Creature] aubergine

Switching to voting Creature for now because I'm more confident that he's(?) a more likely hit than Mansnicks.

Creature slanking and doing shit all is NAI for him. Please stop wasting early ml on Creature, he resolves later just fine and we can actually catch people D1 instead of lynching a slanker who resolves later.

You know Creature is town?

So at this point, Michele is actively having a interrogatory convo with Ender’s posts. If this is w/w, it’s pretty subtle but also confusing distancing. I’d expect her to start looking to find a way to extract herself from voting him at this point.

Spoiler: show

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 2:19 am

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 10:42 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 10:14 pm
I’ve never been a viable wagon, you just created that narrative.

And…does it matter? It was in my thinking box up yonder.
Do you disagree with my assessment?

You're now tied first. I made shit all up with regards to you being a viable counterwagon. The fact that you're acting like those three votes on you mean nothing is exactly why I'm really wondering.

And I hate "Kill the low posters" as an assessment.

Many low posters (Creature notably) resolve themselves when given time.

Other low posters can be good targets for anyone on town with a kill or investigative power.

Town wins by creating and utilizing information in thread. By going after the low posters you're providing scum with an easy vote that has low impact, and not only that, they can easily push towards town in the low posters with little accountability and no way for anyone to call them on picking that person. It's bad or worse, take your pick.

I like this reasoning

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 12:23 am

Dolby wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 12:17 am Ender give me a quick leans list pls. I haven’t caught up yet and want to vibe

Towny:
Lime Coke
Honey
Garden Gnome

Lightly towny:
HK
Dolby
osieorb
Flea
Seanzie

Deep Wolves: (Kinda towny but they have good earlygames as wolves)
Alison
Mac

IDK pile:
Creature
Nanook
LoMo
TripleHaven
TSP

Lightly scummy:
Michelle
listo95

Scummier:
Falcon
Mansnicks
Scotty
EnderWiggin

You put yourself as bottom scum..

agrees with Ender.

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 5:40 am

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 4:52 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 1:57 am You know Creature is town?

No? I've literally been campaigning against voting the low-posters as a whole?

Voting in low posters even if we hit a wolf is not as valuable if we keep votes within active users.

As for the scum read, you seem to make assumptions about things and dismiss other people's opinions (like my Creature approach) which pings really off to me.

Coloured text: I like this approach, about game theory/generalities you posted similar thoughts with mine.

About my assumptions, I usually don't sheep other reads in games, especially from people i don't know, and i post things to receive answers. This is how I form reads
Your Creature approach is correct for day 1 and if you notice, i didn't vote him because i don't want him dead today. Anyway, if he is villager, a townie who doesn't post is a very bad presence for the game because if he can make it to lylo is the designated ML by the wolves.

Still, i don't enjoy policy eliminations so I hope Creature will find his Wim, maybe somewhere in the glorious wolf win he had in Jaleb's 3/21 at MU.

starting to mind meld with Ender about creature.

So anyway, at this point, her vote has been sitting on Ender for like 15 hours, and I am the leading wagon 4-3.

Spoiler: show

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 5:47 am

Guillotine wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 2:22 am

About day 1 wagons, the silence around them is concerning, if Scotty is wolf his mates are sleeping without much care.
I would say we can't hit a wolf (probably) by voting the top wagons, but being very early in the morning in US this is a weaker take than usual.

I can bet its at least one wolf in the no voters

begins to throw doubt about the leading wagons of me, Ender and HK

@EnderWiggin ISO - 92 p, trending up, but had a very wolfy start imo

Now starting to change her tune. Still would’ve expected this earlier before Ender was a viable train if he were w/w

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 8:00 am

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 7:22 am

mansnicks wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 6:14 am listo has had 2 posts where he hasn't talked exclusively about himself - and both those posts have been suspicious to some people.
The way I see it, 100% of that slot's content is scum indicative? Because the other 83% of his posts were justifying himself.

Don't get me wrong, he might as well be overwhelmed town. But objectively that slot is just wolfy.

I know that all players are biased in the sense that lynching a slot like that feels lazy and like not playing the game.
But I hope people will consider this lynch.
[VOTE: Listo95] aubergine

Finally, something I can get behind.

[VOTE: Listo95] aubergine

what about this read Scotty? What makes Ender's wagon better? The fact the wagon became bigger?

Kinda strange question. Not sure what to make of it in context.

At this point it’s really hard to tell the vote totals. I’m pretty certain Ender has 5 votes (including Michelle) and is leading. Michelle doesn’t have extreme urgency to change her vote.

At some point, osie votes lomo. Ender’s train shrinks a little. And Michelle switches to lomo.

Then this exchange:

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 9:19 am

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 7:31 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 5:47 am

Guillotine wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 2:22 am

About day 1 wagons, the silence around them is concerning, if Scotty is wolf his mates are sleeping without much care.
I would say we can't hit a wolf (probably) by voting the top wagons, but being very early in the morning in US this is a weaker take than usual.

I can bet its at least one wolf in the no voters

Alison are you reading the game right? Michelle literally says she thinks we don't hit wolf in Scotty/HK/Me?

She sussed me earlier then we talked.

I mean I disagree with her there but anyway.

Who do you think can flip scum in the main wagons?

How come in a game with 21 players Eod is soooo quiet?

Ender is not exactly chummy with Michelle.

Lastly, Ender self preserves and flea ties it up I think 5-5 mansnicks/Ender close to EoD.

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 10:23 am reading Mansnicks Iso, it's rather empty and I want to keep his wagon up.
My TR on him existed rather because of the vibe and impression of him being contributive, but he was asking left and right things without following them up afterwards

Something on last Ender posts makes me to want him alive at this Eod

[VOTE: Mansnicks] aubergine

Michelle puts mansnicks ahead, literally saving Ender.

Ok, so to unpack this. The only way I see Ender bad here is is Michelle is comfortable as a wolf leaving her vote on a teammate. Her saving vote at the end placing on mansnicks is a little too on the nose IMO. But it could be something there. She has subtle cases on other people and the lomo vote could be a time where she felt comfortable voting away from Ender without looking suspicious.

After all this, I think I have to cede to someone who knows Michelle’s scum game: Would she passively bus a teammate for most of the day?
I’m no longer on Ender being a townread, and put him as firm scum lean if someone can confirm Michelle would do this as scum.

I don't think they're teammates; I think Michelle generally refrains from bussing.

Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Jul 17, 2021 3:12 pm

honey wrote: ↑Sat Jul 17, 2021 3:09 pm also whoever doesnt talk here at night is maf guillo cant kill all of us

I think you underestimate Thanos our host

This.

‘tis what I was suspecting- you’re the only person I’ve heard talk about her meta, so I’m fine going with that for now.

Because if she doesn’t usually bus, her D1 looks great for Ender

osieorb18 wrote: ↑Sat Jul 17, 2021 3:04 pm

honey wrote: ↑Sat Jul 17, 2021 11:16 am Also i kinda think flea is just chaotic town sry osie i think the tunnel is misplaced

Yeah their response felt like townie frustration and there's more of a link from Michelle to the others. They could be cftwr, but for the moment I am moving them up in my reads.

1) Frustrated? wtf lol where?
2) cftwr?
3) Ignoring me? :P

Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Jul 17, 2021 3:12 pm

honey wrote: ↑Sat Jul 17, 2021 3:09 pm also whoever doesnt talk here at night is maf guillo cant kill all of us

I think you underestimate Thanos our host

then this is the titanic and alison is Rose and the rest of us are Jack

honey wrote: ↑Sat Jul 17, 2021 3:24 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Jul 17, 2021 3:12 pm

honey wrote: ↑Sat Jul 17, 2021 3:09 pm also whoever doesnt talk here at night is maf guillo cant kill all of us

I think you underestimate Thanos our host

then this is the titanic and alison is Rose and the rest of us are Jack

As long as she’s safe and can retain the heart of the ocean tonight we’re all winners

honey wrote: ↑Sat Jul 17, 2021 3:24 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Jul 17, 2021 3:12 pm

honey wrote: ↑Sat Jul 17, 2021 3:09 pm also whoever doesnt talk here at night is maf guillo cant kill all of us

I think you underestimate Thanos our host

then this is the titanic and alison is Rose and the rest of us are Jack

"I love you Jack!"

*Breaks thumb*

"Bye!"

Hello from the other side

How do I even compensate my laziness?

I am whelmed.

And have thoughts.

But my thoughts have been a little too abrasive for your delicate sensibilities.

So I will give myself time to structure them well.

osieorb18 wrote: ↑Sat Jul 17, 2021 3:13 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Jul 17, 2021 3:07 pm Michelle on Ender:

Spoiler: show

Michelle votes Ender D1, becoming the first vote on Ender.
Creature then almost immediately votes Ender too, to which Michelle finds suspicious. Almost as if she didn’t expect anyone to sheep her.

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 2:44 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 2:30 pm I'll prob stick with voting Ender because something feels fishy about them

What made you vote?
What's fishy?

But she keeps the vote there.

In short i have

Mansnicks
Mac
HK
For top TRs

Creature
Ender
For top SRs

Still top SRs Ender.

Meanwhile I also voted Ender and he is the leading wagon at 3. Michelle still hasn’t changed votes.

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 1:57 am

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 6:45 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 2:15 pm Kinda don't like Michelle, ngl.

Kinda agree ngl

Explain
Otoh i have you as wolf read, so it's a logical thing you'd do as either AI

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 6:50 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 3:29 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 3:15 pm
Yes, I am not sure about my read. Should I be? If it isn't clear, it was a scumlean on you.

It isn't a waste of a post for me to express how I feel about a slot in the game. Do you expect no one to voice scumreads?

Why are you quoting a ton of posts but not actually doing anything with them/talking about them?

I expect reads, not shades. Your post pinged me hard because we have no history and we didn't interact at all, and the wording was wishy-washy
For eg my suspicion on Creature is based on meta of multiple games and his lack of content in this game.

I just want to keep those posts in my Iso for later in the game, if i am alive i iso myself to see what i found interesting in day 1- this is a day to obtain infos.

Can you post some reads? a list would be enough.

Creature has lack of content in every game on here I've played with him.

Creature can post genuine and complain for lack of motivation as wolf. Equalising his wolf meta with his town meta on site is easy
I have more than 3 games experience as both alignaments, so your meta is incomplete

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 6:59 pm

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 5:34 pm Well what I've gotten so far-

Townreading:
Honey
TH
Scott
Alison

Scumreading
Creature
Mansnicks

[VOTE: Creature] aubergine

Switching to voting Creature for now because I'm more confident that he's(?) a more likely hit than Mansnicks.

Creature slanking and doing shit all is NAI for him. Please stop wasting early ml on Creature, he resolves later just fine and we can actually catch people D1 instead of lynching a slanker who resolves later.

You know Creature is town?

So at this point, Michele is actively having a interrogatory convo with Ender’s posts. If this is w/w, it’s pretty subtle but also confusing distancing. I’d expect her to start looking to find a way to extract herself from voting him at this point.

Spoiler: show

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 2:19 am

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 10:42 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 10:14 pm
I’ve never been a viable wagon, you just created that narrative.

And…does it matter? It was in my thinking box up yonder.
Do you disagree with my assessment?

You're now tied first. I made shit all up with regards to you being a viable counterwagon. The fact that you're acting like those three votes on you mean nothing is exactly why I'm really wondering.

And I hate "Kill the low posters" as an assessment.

Many low posters (Creature notably) resolve themselves when given time.

Other low posters can be good targets for anyone on town with a kill or investigative power.

Town wins by creating and utilizing information in thread. By going after the low posters you're providing scum with an easy vote that has low impact, and not only that, they can easily push towards town in the low posters with little accountability and no way for anyone to call them on picking that person. It's bad or worse, take your pick.

I like this reasoning

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 12:23 am

Dolby wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 12:17 am Ender give me a quick leans list pls. I haven’t caught up yet and want to vibe

Towny:
Lime Coke
Honey
Garden Gnome

Lightly towny:
HK
Dolby
osieorb
Flea
Seanzie

Deep Wolves: (Kinda towny but they have good earlygames as wolves)
Alison
Mac

IDK pile:
Creature
Nanook
LoMo
TripleHaven
TSP

Lightly scummy:
Michelle
listo95

Scummier:
Falcon
Mansnicks
Scotty
EnderWiggin

You put yourself as bottom scum..

agrees with Ender.

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 5:40 am

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 4:52 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 1:57 am You know Creature is town?

No? I've literally been campaigning against voting the low-posters as a whole?

Voting in low posters even if we hit a wolf is not as valuable if we keep votes within active users.

As for the scum read, you seem to make assumptions about things and dismiss other people's opinions (like my Creature approach) which pings really off to me.

Coloured text: I like this approach, about game theory/generalities you posted similar thoughts with mine.

About my assumptions, I usually don't sheep other reads in games, especially from people i don't know, and i post things to receive answers. This is how I form reads
Your Creature approach is correct for day 1 and if you notice, i didn't vote him because i don't want him dead today. Anyway, if he is villager, a townie who doesn't post is a very bad presence for the game because if he can make it to lylo is the designated ML by the wolves.

Still, i don't enjoy policy eliminations so I hope Creature will find his Wim, maybe somewhere in the glorious wolf win he had in Jaleb's 3/21 at MU.

starting to mind meld with Ender about creature.

So anyway, at this point, her vote has been sitting on Ender for like 15 hours, and I am the leading wagon 4-3.

Spoiler: show

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 5:47 am

Guillotine wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 2:22 am

About day 1 wagons, the silence around them is concerning, if Scotty is wolf his mates are sleeping without much care.
I would say we can't hit a wolf (probably) by voting the top wagons, but being very early in the morning in US this is a weaker take than usual.

I can bet its at least one wolf in the no voters

begins to throw doubt about the leading wagons of me, Ender and HK

@EnderWiggin ISO - 92 p, trending up, but had a very wolfy start imo

Now starting to change her tune. Still would’ve expected this earlier before Ender was a viable train if he were w/w

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 8:00 am

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 7:22 am

mansnicks wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 6:14 am listo has had 2 posts where he hasn't talked exclusively about himself - and both those posts have been suspicious to some people.
The way I see it, 100% of that slot's content is scum indicative? Because the other 83% of his posts were justifying himself.

Don't get me wrong, he might as well be overwhelmed town. But objectively that slot is just wolfy.

I know that all players are biased in the sense that lynching a slot like that feels lazy and like not playing the game.
But I hope people will consider this lynch.
[VOTE: Listo95] aubergine

Finally, something I can get behind.

[VOTE: Listo95] aubergine

what about this read Scotty? What makes Ender's wagon better? The fact the wagon became bigger?

Kinda strange question. Not sure what to make of it in context.

At this point it’s really hard to tell the vote totals. I’m pretty certain Ender has 5 votes (including Michelle) and is leading. Michelle doesn’t have extreme urgency to change her vote.

At some point, osie votes lomo. Ender’s train shrinks a little. And Michelle switches to lomo.

Then this exchange:

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 9:19 am

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 7:31 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 5:47 am

Guillotine wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 2:22 am

About day 1 wagons, the silence around them is concerning, if Scotty is wolf his mates are sleeping without much care.
I would say we can't hit a wolf (probably) by voting the top wagons, but being very early in the morning in US this is a weaker take than usual.

I can bet its at least one wolf in the no voters

Alison are you reading the game right? Michelle literally says she thinks we don't hit wolf in Scotty/HK/Me?

She sussed me earlier then we talked.

I mean I disagree with her there but anyway.

Who do you think can flip scum in the main wagons?

How come in a game with 21 players Eod is soooo quiet?

Ender is not exactly chummy with Michelle.

Lastly, Ender self preserves and flea ties it up I think 5-5 mansnicks/Ender close to EoD.

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 10:23 am reading Mansnicks Iso, it's rather empty and I want to keep his wagon up.
My TR on him existed rather because of the vibe and impression of him being contributive, but he was asking left and right things without following them up afterwards

Something on last Ender posts makes me to want him alive at this Eod

[VOTE: Mansnicks] aubergine

Michelle puts mansnicks ahead, literally saving Ender.

Ok, so to unpack this. The only way I see Ender bad here is is Michelle is comfortable as a wolf leaving her vote on a teammate. Her saving vote at the end placing on mansnicks is a little too on the nose IMO. But it could be something there. She has subtle cases on other people and the lomo vote could be a time where she felt comfortable voting away from Ender without looking suspicious.

After all this, I think I have to cede to someone who knows Michelle’s scum game: Would she passively bus a teammate for most of the day?
I’m no longer on Ender being a townread, and put him as firm scum lean if someone can confirm Michelle would do this as scum.

I don't think they're teammates; I think Michelle generally refrains from bussing.

Michelle distance votes compulsively what are you talking about?

honey wrote: ↑Sat Jul 17, 2021 3:11 pm time to rise up and seize the means of production

What about the memes of production

I think Garden Gnome is the wolfiest player here by some stretch. Will now field arguments.

I think it's time that us uninformed as fuck town start killing those whomst our deceased wished to kill.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jul 17, 2021 6:07 pm I think Garden Gnome is the wolfiest player here by some stretch. Will now field arguments.

You could be right.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jul 17, 2021 6:18 pm I think it's time that us uninformed as fuck town start killing those whomst our deceased wished to kill.

Sure. Go on.

Garden Gnome wrote: ↑Sat Jul 17, 2021 6:23 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jul 17, 2021 6:07 pm I think Garden Gnome is the wolfiest player here by some stretch. Will now field arguments.

You could be right.

Mac might be right yeah. Your talking points here are pretty robotic.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 2:10 am Scotty, Gnome, HK


Lynch or shoot in this pool plz.


Low posters also solid VK shots IMO, anyone less than 20 IMO

Falcon legacy.

Scotty, Gnome.

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Jul 15, 2021 7:44 pm anyways, seriously, do whatever it is you want. TH is either operating with the same wattage as a potato battery or is a wolf. Mac is outed wolf. Rip seanzie, you were too pure (also I WAS RIGHT THEY WERE TOWN)
Honey still town, dolby still town, flea town, gnome is a wolf.
don't kill listo, I liked their reads post.

HK also had Gnome wolf.

Had me wolf but he was wrong and tilted but that's whatever.

mansnicks wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 6:14 am listo has had 2 posts where he hasn't talked exclusively about himself - and both those posts have been suspicious to some people.
The way I see it, 100% of that slot's content is scum indicative? Because the other 83% of his posts were justifying himself.

Don't get me wrong, he might as well be overwhelmed town. But objectively that slot is just wolfy.

I know that all players are biased in the sense that lynching a slot like that feels lazy and like not playing the game.
But I hope people will consider this lynch.
[VOTE: Listo95] aubergine

Mansnicks wanted Listo. Granted they also wanted HK and were wrong.

TSP wanted Honey dead but had them not w/w with Listo.

Creature wrote: ↑Sat Jul 17, 2021 6:38 pm

Garden Gnome wrote: ↑Sat Jul 17, 2021 6:23 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jul 17, 2021 6:07 pm I think Garden Gnome is the wolfiest player here by some stretch. Will now field arguments.

You could be right.

Mac might be right yeah. Your talking points here are pretty robotic.

I don't know if wolfy and robotic are synonomous.

I am just going to take it one at a time starting with Gnome. My world building is obviously tilting ppl.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jul 17, 2021 6:45 pm I am just going to take it one at a time starting with Gnome. My world building is obviously tilting ppl.

Are you saying that you're going to chop town, one player at a time?

Garden Gnome wrote: ↑Sat Jul 17, 2021 7:05 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jul 17, 2021 6:45 pm I am just going to take it one at a time starting with Gnome. My world building is obviously tilting ppl.

Are you saying that you're going to chop town, one player at a time?

very nuanced solving gnome

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jul 17, 2021 7:14 pm

Garden Gnome wrote: ↑Sat Jul 17, 2021 7:05 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jul 17, 2021 6:45 pm I am just going to take it one at a time starting with Gnome. My world building is obviously tilting ppl.

Are you saying that you're going to chop town, one player at a time?

very nuanced solving gnome

So, you're scum?

Garden Gnome wrote: ↑Sat Jul 17, 2021 7:56 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jul 17, 2021 7:14 pm

Garden Gnome wrote: ↑Sat Jul 17, 2021 7:05 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jul 17, 2021 6:45 pm I am just going to take it one at a time starting with Gnome. My world building is obviously tilting ppl.

Are you saying that you're going to chop town, one player at a time?

very nuanced solving gnome

So, you're scum?

Incredible insight on display.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jul 17, 2021 7:57 pm

Garden Gnome wrote: ↑Sat Jul 17, 2021 7:56 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jul 17, 2021 7:14 pm

Garden Gnome wrote: ↑Sat Jul 17, 2021 7:05 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jul 17, 2021 6:45 pm I am just going to take it one at a time starting with Gnome. My world building is obviously tilting ppl.

Are you saying that you're going to chop town, one player at a time?

very nuanced solving gnome

So, you're scum?

Incredible insight on display.

Are you telling me that you're jealous?

Garden Gnome wrote: ↑Sat Jul 17, 2021 7:59 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jul 17, 2021 7:57 pm

Garden Gnome wrote: ↑Sat Jul 17, 2021 7:56 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jul 17, 2021 7:14 pm

Garden Gnome wrote: ↑Sat Jul 17, 2021 7:05 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jul 17, 2021 6:45 pm I am just going to take it one at a time starting with Gnome. My world building is obviously tilting ppl.

Are you saying that you're going to chop town, one player at a time?

very nuanced solving gnome

So, you're scum?

Incredible insight on display.

Are you telling me that you're jealous?

You are the best.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jul 17, 2021 8:01 pm

Garden Gnome wrote: ↑Sat Jul 17, 2021 7:59 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jul 17, 2021 7:57 pm

Garden Gnome wrote: ↑Sat Jul 17, 2021 7:56 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jul 17, 2021 7:14 pm

Garden Gnome wrote: ↑Sat Jul 17, 2021 7:05 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jul 17, 2021 6:45 pm I am just going to take it one at a time starting with Gnome. My world building is obviously tilting ppl.

Are you saying that you're going to chop town, one player at a time?

very nuanced solving gnome

So, you're scum?

Incredible insight on display.

Are you telling me that you're jealous?

You are the best.

Thank you very much.
This has been fun, but now I think that I need to cook dinner.

what u making?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jul 17, 2021 8:16 pm what u making?

corn, chicken sausage, and yellow zucchini!

Garden Gnome wrote: ↑Sat Jul 17, 2021 8:18 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jul 17, 2021 8:16 pm what u making?

corn, chicken sausage, and yellow zucchini!

is yellow zucchini just button squash?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jul 17, 2021 6:18 pm I think it's time that us uninformed as fuck town start killing those whomst our deceased wished to kill.

Welcome to D2

The majority chose to kill HK

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jul 17, 2021 6:07 pm I think Garden Gnome is the wolfiest player here by some stretch. Will now field arguments.

Wolfiest? Eh. But I’m down to look at her D2. She’s in the POE

Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Jul 17, 2021 8:24 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jul 17, 2021 6:18 pm I think it's time that us uninformed as fuck town start killing those whomst our deceased wished to kill.

Welcome to D2

The majority chose to kill HK

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jul 17, 2021 6:07 pm I think Garden Gnome is the wolfiest player here by some stretch. Will now field arguments.

Wolfiest? Eh. But I’m down to look at her D2. She’s in the POE

Mind sharing the names of those you consider wolfier?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jul 17, 2021 8:25 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Jul 17, 2021 8:24 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jul 17, 2021 6:18 pm I think it's time that us uninformed as fuck town start killing those whomst our deceased wished to kill.

Welcome to D2

The majority chose to kill HK

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jul 17, 2021 6:07 pm I think Garden Gnome is the wolfiest player here by some stretch. Will now field arguments.

Wolfiest? Eh. But I’m down to look at her D2. She’s in the POE

Mind sharing the names of those you consider wolfier?

Dolby.
What is your opinion of Dolby?
I feel like discussion of them went poof right before EoD.

I no longer feel as strongly about osie, but since I first called osie scum, you were adamant that slot was also scum. What do you think now?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jul 17, 2021 6:03 pm [quote=osieorb18 post_id=828948 time=<a href="tel:1626549225">1626549225</a> user_id=967]
[quote=Scotty post_id=828941 time=<a href="tel:1626548879">1626548879</a> user_id=410]
Michelle on Ender:

Spoiler: show

Michelle votes Ender D1, becoming the first vote on Ender.
Creature then almost immediately votes Ender too, to which Michelle finds suspicious. Almost as if she didn’t expect anyone to sheep her.

[quote=Michelle post_id=827110 time=<a href="tel:1626201895">1626201895</a> user_id=659]
[quote=Creature post_id=827105 time=<a href="tel:1626201006">1626201006</a> user_id=648]
I'll prob stick with voting Ender because something feels fishy about them

What made you vote?
What's fishy?
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But she keeps the vote there.

In short i have

Mansnicks
Mac
HK
For top TRs

Creature
Ender
For top SRs

Still top SRs Ender.

Meanwhile I also voted Ender and he is the leading wagon at 3. Michelle still hasn’t changed votes.
[quote=Michelle post_id=827393 time=<a href="tel:1626242270">1626242270</a> user_id=659]
[quote=EnderWiggin post_id=827267 time=<a href="tel:1626216352">1626216352</a> user_id=950]
[quote=Seanzie post_id=827097 time=<a href="tel:1626200102">1626200102</a> user_id=859]
Kinda don't like Michelle, ngl.
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Kinda agree ngl
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Explain
Otoh i have you as wolf read, so it's a logical thing you'd do as either AI
[quote=EnderWiggin post_id=827270 time=<a href="tel:1626216619">1626216619</a> user_id=950]
[quote=Michelle post_id=827130 time=<a href="tel:1626204582">1626204582</a> user_id=659]
[quote=Seanzie post_id=827129 time=<a href="tel:1626203716">1626203716</a> user_id=859]

Yes, I am not sure about my read. Should I be? If it isn't clear, it was a scumlean on you.

It isn't a waste of a post for me to express how I feel about a slot in the game. Do you expect no one to voice scumreads?

Why are you quoting a ton of posts but not actually doing anything with them/talking about them?
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I expect reads, not shades. Your post pinged me hard because we have no history and we didn't interact at all, and the wording was wishy-washy
For eg my suspicion on Creature is based on meta of multiple games and his lack of content in this game.

I just want to keep those posts in my Iso for later in the game, if i am alive i iso myself to see what i found interesting in day 1- this is a day to obtain infos.

Can you post some reads? a list would be enough.
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Creature has lack of content in every game on here I've played with him.
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Creature can post genuine and complain for lack of motivation as wolf. Equalising his wolf meta with his town meta on site is easy
I have more than 3 games experience as both alignaments, so your meta is incomplete
[quote=EnderWiggin post_id=827277 time=<a href="tel:1626217144">1626217144</a> user_id=950]
[quote="Lime Coke" post_id=827180 time=<a href="tel:1626212062">1626212062</a> user_id=966]
Well what I've gotten so far-

Townreading:
Honey
TH
Scott
Alison

Scumreading
Creature
Mansnicks

[VOTE: Creature] aubergine

Switching to voting Creature for now because I'm more confident that he's(?) a more likely hit than Mansnicks.
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Creature slanking and doing shit all is NAI for him. Please stop wasting early ml on Creature, he resolves later just fine and we can actually catch people D1 instead of lynching a slanker who resolves later.
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You know Creature is town?
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So at this point, Michele is actively having a interrogatory convo with Ender’s posts. If this is w/w, it’s pretty subtle but also confusing distancing. I’d expect her to start looking to find a way to extract herself from voting him at this point. So anyway, at this point, her vote has been sitting on Ender for like 15 hours, and I am the leading wagon 4-3.

@EnderWiggin ISO - 92 p, trending up, but had a very wolfy start imo

Now starting to change her tune. Still would’ve expected this earlier before Ender was a viable train if he were w/w

[quote=Michelle post_id=827542 time=<a href="tel:1626264040">1626264040</a> user_id=659]
[quote=Scotty post_id=827504 time=<a href="tel:1626261734">1626261734</a> user_id=410]
[quote=mansnicks post_id=827439 time=<a href="tel:1626257661">1626257661</a> user_id=885]
listo has had 2 posts where he hasn't talked exclusively about himself - and both those posts have been suspicious to some people.
The way I see it, 100% of that slot's content is scum indicative? Because the other 83% of his posts were justifying himself.

Don't get me wrong, he might as well be overwhelmed town. But objectively that slot is just wolfy.

I know that all players are biased in the sense that lynching a slot like that feels lazy and like not playing the game.
But I hope people will consider this lynch.
[VOTE: Listo95] aubergine
[/quote]
Finally, something I can get behind.

[VOTE: Listo95] aubergine
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what about this read Scotty? What makes Ender's wagon better? The fact the wagon became bigger?
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Kinda strange question. Not sure what to make of it in context.

At this point it’s really hard to tell the vote totals. I’m pretty certain Ender has 5 votes (including Michelle) and is leading. Michelle doesn’t have extreme urgency to change her vote.

At some point, osie votes lomo. Ender’s train shrinks a little. And Michelle switches to lomo.

Then this exchange:
[quote=Michelle post_id=827568 time=<a href="tel:1626268786">1626268786</a> user_id=659]
[quote=EnderWiggin post_id=827519 time=<a href="tel:1626262288">1626262288</a> user_id=950]
[quote=Michelle post_id=827426 time=<a href="tel:1626256072">1626256072</a> user_id=659]
[quote=Guillotine post_id=827399 time=<a href="tel:1626243766">1626243766</a> user_id=862] [/quote]
About day 1 wagons, the silence around them is concerning, if Scotty is wolf his mates are sleeping without much care.
I would say we can't hit a wolf (probably) by voting the top wagons, but being very early in the morning in US this is a weaker take than usual.

I can bet its at least one wolf in the no voters
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Alison are you reading the game right? Michelle literally says she thinks we don't hit wolf in Scotty/HK/Me?

She sussed me earlier then we talked.

I mean I disagree with her there but anyway.
[/quote]
Who do you think can flip scum in the main wagons?

How come in a game with 21 players Eod is soooo quiet?
[/quote]
Ender is not exactly chummy with Michelle.

Lastly, Ender self preserves and flea ties it up I think 5-5 mansnicks/Ender close to EoD.
[quote=Michelle post_id=827658 time=<a href="tel:1626272630">1626272630</a> user_id=659]
reading Mansnicks Iso, it's rather empty and I want to keep his wagon up.
My TR on him existed rather because of the vibe and impression of him being contributive, but he was asking left and right things without following them up afterwards

Something on last Ender posts makes me to want him alive at this Eod

[VOTE: Mansnicks] aubergine
[/quote]
Michelle puts mansnicks ahead, literally saving Ender.
[/spoiler]

Ok, so to unpack this. The only way I see Ender bad here is is Michelle is comfortable as a wolf leaving her vote on a teammate. Her saving vote at the end placing on mansnicks is a little too on the nose IMO. But it could be something there. She has subtle cases on other people and the lomo vote could be a time where she felt comfortable voting away from Ender without looking suspicious.

After all this, I think I have to cede to someone who knows Michelle’s scum game: Would she passively bus a teammate for most of the day?
I’m no longer on Ender being a townread, and put him as firm scum lean if someone can confirm Michelle would do this as scum.
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I don't think they're teammates; I think Michelle generally refrains from bussing.
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Michelle distance votes compulsively what are you talking about?
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Go on

ahhhhhhhhhhfuck

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jul 17, 2021 8:22 pm

Garden Gnome wrote: ↑Sat Jul 17, 2021 8:18 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jul 17, 2021 8:16 pm what u making?

corn, chicken sausage, and yellow zucchini!

is yellow zucchini just button squash?

It has green ends like a zucchini but it's yellow. Shaped like a zucchini. Button squash is more of a rounded summer squash that's also called patty pan.

Yea so anyway what I was saying was

Mac, you have more insight to wolf Michele? Would she be brash enough to leave her vote on a teammate for most of the day? If so, she blatantly did so to ender and then saved him d1