The Syndicate

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 7:12 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 7:10 pm A shot rings out!

@KZA has died and flips TOWN! They reveal as:

Lucky's Dad

You're Lucky's Dad! On a night of your choosing you may activate, and force all* night actions to target you. This ability can be roleblocked IF the block is originally aimed at you, but will NOT be stopped if a block would be redirected to you. If you attract both kills and protection, you will die if you attract more kills than protection or survive if you attract an amount of protection equal to or greater than kills.

*this will not effect passive or self-targeting actions, and there may or may not be one or more abilities that counteract this.

Day continues!

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@ 112
@ alexa
@ Alison
@ Belzy
@ BoKnows
@ c4e5g3d5
@ Creature
@ DrWilgy
@ dyachei
@ Dyslexicon
@ EnderWiggin
@ falcon45ca
@ Guillotine
@ hollowkatt
@ ilario
@ Justplayingitcool
@ KZA
@ LinearPoint
@ Marmot
@ Master Radishes
@ NotAnAxehole
@ nutella
@ Paopan
@ Phil and Gloria
@ Porscha
@ sabie12
@ Scotty
@ Seanzie
@ sig
@ Sloonei
@ TonyStarkPrime
@ Urist

i had no idea kza was playing

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 7:13 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 7:12 pm okay wait was that c4's shot

No

I have to announce mine in thread

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 7:18 pm I don't really wanna shoot LP or Paopan

On the other hand I can totally see myself shooting Marmot

Haven't looked into Scotty at all

112 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 3:28 pm

KZA wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 3:19 pm

dyachei wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 3:18 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 3:17 pm

dyachei wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 3:00 pm i guess most of that wall looks like busywork to me, alison. and i dont understand where pao's policy elims came from

again, i dont think i even know this person, why am i a policy?

I think that policy list is just a bunch of lowposters

see i asked them in thread but they disappeared. which also doesnt have me feeling great about the slot

they said they would be back in 12 hours or something

kaz, you have your game face on so i'm gonna give you a round or two, but i'm not sure i'm feeling the kawaii-town energy from you atmtbqh

alexa wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 7:33 pm i'm here

c4 was it you who shot KZA?

Porscha wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 7:34 pm

alexa wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 7:33 pm i'm here

c4 was it you who shot KZA?

c4 already said he didnt shoot KZA and c4 has to make his shot publicly, which he has not done yet

Overachieving Student Who Replies to Quiz Questions on Discord by Uploading an External Word Document

You’re a two shot tracker. Also kind of a nerd, I guess. Anyways, twice during the game you can target a player at night at see who they visit, if anyone.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 7:10 pm A shot rings out!

@KZA has died and flips TOWN! They reveal as:

Lucky's Dad

You're Lucky's Dad! On a night of your choosing you may activate, and force all* night actions to target you. This ability can be roleblocked IF the block is originally aimed at you, but will NOT be stopped if a block would be redirected to you. If you attract both kills and protection, you will die if you attract more kills than protection or survive if you attract an amount of protection equal to or greater than kills.

*this will not effect passive or self-targeting actions, and there may or may not be one or more abilities that counteract this.

Day continues!

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@ 112
@ alexa
@ Alison
@ Belzy
@ BoKnows
@ c4e5g3d5
@ Creature
@ DrWilgy
@ dyachei
@ Dyslexicon
@ EnderWiggin
@ falcon45ca
@ Guillotine
@ hollowkatt
@ ilario
@ Justplayingitcool
@ KZA
@ LinearPoint
@ Marmot
@ Master Radishes
@ NotAnAxehole
@ nutella
@ Paopan
@ Phil and Gloria
@ Porscha
@ sabie12
@ Scotty
@ Seanzie
@ sig
@ Sloonei
@ TonyStarkPrime
@ Urist

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 7:36 pm A shot rings out!

@Marmot has died! They flip MAFIA! They reveal as:

Overachieving Student Who Replies to Quiz Questions on Discord by Uploading an External Word Document

You’re a two shot tracker. Also kind of a nerd, I guess. Anyways, twice during the game you can target a player at night at see who they visit, if anyone.

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@ 112
@ alexa
@ Alison
@ Belzy
@ BoKnows
@ c4e5g3d5
@ Creature
@ DrWilgy
@ dyachei
@ Dyslexicon
@ EnderWiggin
@ falcon45ca
@ Guillotine
@ hollowkatt
@ ilario
@ Justplayingitcool
@ LinearPoint
@ Master Radishes
@ NotAnAxehole
@ nutella
@ Paopan
@ Phil and Gloria
@ Porscha
@ sabie12
@ Scotty
@ Seanzie
@ sig
@ Sloonei
@ TonyStarkPrime
@ Urist

Porscha wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 7:37 pm idk if c4 shot marmot either? I didn't see him make the shot publicly

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 7:38 pm Well that also wasn't me but give me credit anyway

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 7:39 pm So 3 dayvigs D1? Nanook is crazy. Neeko likes.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 7:39 pm Gonna go ahead and say that my role is quite a bit better than 2-shot tracker, so mafia likely chose teams.

alexa wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 7:40 pm i just went outside in the blizzard to get food and now i'm sick with the most terrible cough ever but at least i get to see a dead mafia

Belzy wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 7:31 pm

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 7:18 pm I don't really wanna shoot LP or Paopan

On the other hand I can totally see myself shooting Marmot

Haven't looked into Scotty at all

Spicy,

@Marmot there is a laser pointed at you

dyachei wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 7:41 pmyou're welcome

dyachei wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 7:41 pmyou're welcome

Belzy wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 7:43 pm

dyachei wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 7:41 pmyou're welcome

You shot Marmot or?

dyachei wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 7:43 pm

Belzy wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 7:43 pm

dyachei wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 7:41 pmyou're welcome

You shot Marmot or?

ye

112 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 7:44 pm uhh, recanting my seanzie read if it matters at this point

marmot, sabie, dizzy are all good suspects imo

and i could easily see BK as a wolf in this one

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 7:42 pm

alexa wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 7:40 pm i just went outside in the blizzard to get food and now i'm sick with the most terrible cough ever but at least i get to see a dead mafia

I thought that's why door dash was invented

Belzy wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 7:45 pm

112 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 7:44 pm uhh, recanting my seanzie read if it matters at this point

marmot, sabie, dizzy are all good suspects imo

and i could easily see BK as a wolf in this one

I have had Marmot Dizzy as scum aligned for quite a while now. Dizzy's should I or should I need give a pass on Marmot... then I engaged with him about it and he really didn't seem to like that.

Belzy wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 7:45 pm

112 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 7:44 pm uhh, recanting my seanzie read if it matters at this point

marmot, sabie, dizzy are all good suspects imo

and i could easily see BK as a wolf in this one

I have had Marmot Dizzy as scum aligned for quite a while now. Dizzy's should I or should I need give a pass on Marmot... then I engaged with him about it and he really didn't seem to like that.

Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 12:06 am

Creature wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 11:58 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 11:56 pm TBH has Creature played like more than three games with Alison

I think I played plenty. It's just that anyone who plays with me tend to wolfread me at first until they don't.

[VOTE: Creature] aubergine

Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 12:13 am

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:37 pm Here is my case on Creature.

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All of Creature's posts so far can be divided into one of three categories: useless fluff, attempting to derpclear himself for silly reasons, and "flame fanning".

Category 1: Useless Fluff

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Creature wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 7:22 pm Why does the game always start when I'm the most low energy?

Creature wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 8:32 pm Wow this got intense so quick

Creature wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 8:33 pm Is this game by any chance bastard? I didn't check before joining

Creature wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 9:11 pmWho is Neeko?

Creature wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:12 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:11 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 8:49 pm Would much rather just be mafia in bastard games

I think you are.

I'm not mafia and this makes your push on me even more annoying

These posts go beyond the usual RVS horsing around (although we are well out of RVS now). These are posts that show a clear lack of interest in the progression of the game. His questions are flat, shallow, and in many cases could have been easily answered by glancing at the OP. He is more interested in looking like he is around and engaging with the game than actually being around and engaging with the game. He had a ripe opportunity to engage with me about my push on him, and he responded by going "I'm not mafia, I'm annoyed now, go away". I don't get the sense that he cares whether or not I am town misreading him or scum trying to get him killed, and this is especially concerning because in my last scum game I tried to get him killed early on.

I believe him when he says he is low energy. Take note that being low energy and unable to meaningfully engage with the game is a classic Creature scumtell.

Category 2: Attempting to derpclear himself for silly reasons

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Creature wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 7:51 pm I want the guilty on nutella to be legit

Creature wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 8:34 pm Is soup kill a thing?

Creature wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 8:49 pm Would much rather just be mafia in bastard games

Creature wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:06 pm Wait I think the existence of a mafia captain should almost clear me from ever being picked as mafia this game

Creature wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:07 pm Unless you want to argue that I'm 3p here? But would be better to seek for the seven mafia first.

Creature wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:15 pm If I was mafia captain I would choose players tbh even if it is not mechanically optimal. I would much rather have an enjoyable team to play with.

Creature wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:15 pm I know I'd never be picked by the mafia captain if they chose players over roles

Creature makes an excessive number of posts attempting to insinuate that he is town, or in some way get people to "angleshoot" him as being town due to his lack of knowledge about the game mechanics or the inner workings of the mafia ("is there a soup kill?"). But a town Creature who genuinely wanted to know would just check the OP; asking in thread serves no purpose except to try to get people to falsely read him as town. He is aware that he struggles to gain the trust of the town when he is mafia, and he is cheaply attempting to earn this towncred through derptells and "townslips".

Take note that he is trying to convince the game repeatedly that the mafia captain chose players rather than roles. If he is town, he has no reason to believe that the mafia captain chose players over roles. I, personally, have reason to believe that the mafia captain chose roles. I think nutella is much townier than her scum self would be, and as I have argued, a town nutella implies a town Alexa. I know I am town, and I do not think a mafia captain who picked players would pass over both me and Alexa. So this attempt to convince the town - with no evidence whatsoever - that the mafia captain picked players reeks of agenda-pushing to me.

Finally, I want to highlight this line: "Unless you want to argue that I'm 3p here? But would be better to seek for the seven mafia first." Nobody has accused him of being 3P. It comes completely out of the blue, and reads almost as though he is self-aware of his own scumminess and is trying to hang a lampshade of it. I don't think it's a line that would flow naturally from a townie's mouth.

Category 3: Flame Fanning

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Creature wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 8:33 pm lol if nutella is salty alexa caught her n0

Creature wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 9:07 pm lol if the alexa/nutella w/w theory is right

Creature wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:18 pm

112 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:17 pm early take is that Seanzie is probably wolfing imo

Thought I was the only one seeing it

LinearPoint has been accused of fanning the flames. I think Creature is even more guilty of this sin. In his ISO of 19 posts (at the time I wrote this case), Creature utters provocative lines, egging on the suspicions of townies towards each other, three separate times. They are quoted in the spoilers above. Note that he first eggs on the "Alexa has a red check on nutella" narrative, then switches to "Alexa and nutella are wolves together". These narratives are contradictory. Creature does not have an opinion of his own; he just encourages whatever happens to be the prevailing opinion or thread sentiment at the time. This is strongly opportunistic, and this opportunism is exemplified even further by his agreement with 112 that Seanzie is wolfing. How is Seanzie being wolfy? Why has he not brought up this scumread on Seanzie before, if he thought he was the only one seeing it? In fact, if he thinks Seanzie is a wolf and fooling everyone except him, why would he keep quiet about it until someone else brings it up, at which point he eagerly jumps on the bandwagon? Answer: because he is nakedly taking advantage of 112's suspicion to push Seanzie.

At no point does he contribute to the conversation. He does not add evidence to support any narrative. He does not refute the evidence or points that others have brought up. He does not, in fact, engage with the theories and accusations that have been thrown around the thread. He merely fuels the fire with provocative one-liners and moves on without explaining them.

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Please vote Creature.

jfc Alison you came to play. I take it you aren't the Gambit Demon this go around?

Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 12:18 am

Phil and Gloria wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 12:14 am jfc Alison you came to play

Hi who are you? Some sort of sock?

Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 12:20 am Anyway, I finished reading Alison's case on Creature.

[VOTE: Alison] aubergine for slipping and spewing multiple other players town.

112 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 7:44 pm uhh, recanting my seanzie read if it matters at this point

marmot, sabie, dizzy are all good suspects imo

and i could easily see BK as a wolf in this one

Creature wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 7:46 pm Cool Phil and Gloria is sheepable