Re: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation - Day 3
Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:51 pm
Mac promise me you'll neve ever lie about the next question I ask you?
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Can he lie to this question?☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:51 pm Mac promise me you'll neve ever lie about the next question I ask you?
MacDougall take a breath and come back when your (not you are) brain isn't being flooded with alcohol.MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:51 pm Leetic take a breath and come back when you're brain isn't being flooded with adrenaline.
I dunno that's trickyLong Con wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:52 pmCan he lie to this question?☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:51 pm Mac promise me you'll neve ever lie about the next question I ask you?
I was targeted and successfully roleblocked someone.
actually and I’m not kidding he is coming across as very unmad to me and that’s what I find sus
Honestly, I'm confused on this one too. Mac is the guy with confirmation that HE blocked SOMEONE. Not that he was blocked. LEetic is the one with confirmation that he was blocked.leetic wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:50 pmI'm the one with confirmation I was blocked. The hell are you even saying?MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:49 pm I don't comprehend how you could think I've arrived at this station on the train of thought as mafia. I'm blatantly town with confirmation I was blocked. That should be supremely obvious even if my logic isn't optimal.
That's quite rude.leetic wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:53 pmMacDougall take a breath and come back when your (not you are) brain isn't being flooded with alcohol.MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:51 pm Leetic take a breath and come back when you're brain isn't being flooded with adrenaline.
Leetic's head is going to explode soon with this awesomeness flowing.pyxxy wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:54 pmactually and I’m not kidding he is coming across as very unmad to me and that’s what I find sus
what the fuckleetic wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:53 pmMacDougall take a breath and come back when your (not you are) brain isn't being flooded with alcohol.MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:51 pm Leetic take a breath and come back when you're brain isn't being flooded with adrenaline.
Confirmation I blocked. I simply mis-spoke. How confusing LC. You've caught me in a typographical error. I shall never live it down.Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:54 pmHonestly, I'm confused on this one too. Mac is the guy with confirmation that HE blocked SOMEONE. Not that he was blocked. LEetic is the one with confirmation that he was blocked.leetic wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:50 pmI'm the one with confirmation I was blocked. The hell are you even saying?MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:49 pm I don't comprehend how you could think I've arrived at this station on the train of thought as mafia. I'm blatantly town with confirmation I was blocked. That should be supremely obvious even if my logic isn't optimal.
Well this was unnecessaryleetic wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:53 pmMacDougall take a breath and come back when your (not you are) brain isn't being flooded with alcohol.MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:51 pm Leetic take a breath and come back when you're brain isn't being flooded with adrenaline.
Tone argumentMacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:54 pmThat's quite rude.leetic wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:53 pmMacDougall take a breath and come back when your (not you are) brain isn't being flooded with alcohol.MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:51 pm Leetic take a breath and come back when you're brain isn't being flooded with adrenaline.
Sure☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:51 pm Mac promise me you'll neve ever lie about the next question I ask you?
I don't think that your reflexive roleblock would extend to powers not used on you. As in, the silence would be blocked, but the Oracle wouldn't.MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:54 pmI was targeted and successfully roleblocked someone.
Silence was prevented as per host.
Leetic was roleblocked.
I think at least exploring this was a reasonable path for me to take no? I can't be expected going in to account for every piece of information Leetic has stated in his defense.
I think the omgus and vitriol hurled back at me is of the unreasonable amount given this.
Nah you're overreacting. I was just suggesting you take a moment to chill and you called me drunk lol. You really do need to chill.leetic wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:56 pmTone argumentMacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:54 pmThat's quite rude.leetic wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:53 pmMacDougall take a breath and come back when your (not you are) brain isn't being flooded with alcohol.MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:51 pm Leetic take a breath and come back when you're brain isn't being flooded with adrenaline.
Don't treat me like I'm up your ass about it. You're the one who mis-typed, that's fine, just tell me.MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:55 pmConfirmation I blocked. I simply mis-spoke. How confusing LC. You've caught me in a typographical error. I shall never live it down.Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:54 pmHonestly, I'm confused on this one too. Mac is the guy with confirmation that HE blocked SOMEONE. Not that he was blocked. LEetic is the one with confirmation that he was blocked.leetic wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:50 pmI'm the one with confirmation I was blocked. The hell are you even saying?MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:49 pm I don't comprehend how you could think I've arrived at this station on the train of thought as mafia. I'm blatantly town with confirmation I was blocked. That should be supremely obvious even if my logic isn't optimal.
Surely this whole idea that Oracle was roleblocked falls apart at the part where nobody would prioritise roleblocking an Oracle?Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:56 pmI don't think that your reflexive roleblock would extend to powers not used on you. As in, the silence would be blocked, but the Oracle wouldn't.MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:54 pmI was targeted and successfully roleblocked someone.
Silence was prevented as per host.
Leetic was roleblocked.
I think at least exploring this was a reasonable path for me to take no? I can't be expected going in to account for every piece of information Leetic has stated in his defense.
I think the omgus and vitriol hurled back at me is of the unreasonable amount given this.
Maybe you'd realize how bogus this case is if you could think straight. Have you even read the SoD post? You've never answered as suchMacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:57 pmNah you're overreacting. I was just suggesting you take a moment to chill and you called me drunk lol. You really do need to chill.leetic wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:56 pmTone argumentMacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:54 pmThat's quite rude.leetic wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:53 pmMacDougall take a breath and come back when your (not you are) brain isn't being flooded with alcohol.MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:51 pm Leetic take a breath and come back when you're brain isn't being flooded with adrenaline.
Saying you're confused when it's easily explained as a typo felt like a mild accusation to me.Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:58 pmDon't treat me like I'm up your ass about it. You're the one who mis-typed, that's fine, just tell me.MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:55 pmConfirmation I blocked. I simply mis-spoke. How confusing LC. You've caught me in a typographical error. I shall never live it down.Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:54 pmHonestly, I'm confused on this one too. Mac is the guy with confirmation that HE blocked SOMEONE. Not that he was blocked. LEetic is the one with confirmation that he was blocked.leetic wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:50 pmI'm the one with confirmation I was blocked. The hell are you even saying?MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:49 pm I don't comprehend how you could think I've arrived at this station on the train of thought as mafia. I'm blatantly town with confirmation I was blocked. That should be supremely obvious even if my logic isn't optimal.
Maybe it's best I just leave for a bit. I don't want to cause any problems.leetic wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:00 pmMaybe you'd realize how bogus this case is if you could think straight. Have you even read the SoD post? You've never answered as suchMacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:57 pmNah you're overreacting. I was just suggesting you take a moment to chill and you called me drunk lol. You really do need to chill.leetic wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:56 pmTone argumentMacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:54 pmThat's quite rude.leetic wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:53 pmMacDougall take a breath and come back when your (not you are) brain isn't being flooded with alcohol.MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:51 pm Leetic take a breath and come back when you're brain isn't being flooded with adrenaline.
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I don't know. If you can use the fact that the Oracle was roleblocked to try to mislynch the Oracle, maybe you would roleblock the Oracle as a wolf? Furthermore, all this is WIFOM and does not even remotely counter the hard mechanical evidence on my sideMacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:59 pmSurely this whole idea that Oracle was roleblocked falls apart at the part where nobody would prioritise roleblocking an Oracle?Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:56 pmI don't think that your reflexive roleblock would extend to powers not used on you. As in, the silence would be blocked, but the Oracle wouldn't.MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:54 pmI was targeted and successfully roleblocked someone.
Silence was prevented as per host.
Leetic was roleblocked.
I think at least exploring this was a reasonable path for me to take no? I can't be expected going in to account for every piece of information Leetic has stated in his defense.
I think the omgus and vitriol hurled back at me is of the unreasonable amount given this.
Like take all the silence and Mac part away. Doesn't it make more sense he's just lying about being roleblocked to cover for the fact he lied about the role in the first place?
@leetic fyi LC has redacted his claim as having a lie detector check on Rondo not an actual green check so I'm not sure the host would frame a truth as "1 player was found to be town" in that scenario?Roxy wrote: ↑Tue Dec 26, 2023 1:01 pm
Francis heard "1 player was found to be town".![]()
Scotty has been silenced they cannot post or vote.![]()
falcon was killed.![]()
Stuff was switched but had zero bearing.![]()
Several missed the deadline.![]()
Deadline holiday's fault.![]()
sig was: Russ Griswold blocker - block a player nightly, you are town.![]()
Although this ignores potential ITPs, but whatever. A hostile ITP at the very least seems unlikely at this point
Just for the record as an aside are you capable of withstanding accusations in a mafia game without resorting to vitriol and/or spark and/or belittling? Cuz if the answer is no I'll just stop doing it cuz I value my emotional state over the outcome of a mafia game.leetic wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:01 pmI don't know. If you can use the fact that the Oracle was roleblocked to try to mislynch the Oracle, maybe you would roleblock the Oracle as a wolf? Furthermore, all this is WIFOM and does not even remotely counter the hard mechanical evidence on my sideMacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:59 pmSurely this whole idea that Oracle was roleblocked falls apart at the part where nobody would prioritise roleblocking an Oracle?Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:56 pmI don't think that your reflexive roleblock would extend to powers not used on you. As in, the silence would be blocked, but the Oracle wouldn't.MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:54 pmI was targeted and successfully roleblocked someone.
Silence was prevented as per host.
Leetic was roleblocked.
I think at least exploring this was a reasonable path for me to take no? I can't be expected going in to account for every piece of information Leetic has stated in his defense.
I think the omgus and vitriol hurled back at me is of the unreasonable amount given this.
Like take all the silence and Mac part away. Doesn't it make more sense he's just lying about being roleblocked to cover for the fact he lied about the role in the first place?
If LC was telling the truth, the lie detector check effectively confirms RDB as town anyway. I'd consider it confirmation but I don't know what the hosts would thinkMacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:03 pm@leetic fyi LC has redacted his claim as having a lie detector check on Rondo not an actual green check so I'm not sure the host would frame a truth as "1 player was found to be town" in that scenario?Roxy wrote: ↑Tue Dec 26, 2023 1:01 pm
Francis heard "1 player was found to be town".![]()
Scotty has been silenced they cannot post or vote.![]()
falcon was killed.![]()
Stuff was switched but had zero bearing.![]()
Several missed the deadline.![]()
Deadline holiday's fault.![]()
sig was: Russ Griswold blocker - block a player nightly, you are town.![]()
That is a possibility, but the Oracle SEEMS to have been blocked today. And if "the real Oracle" is a Town role, then they'd have called Leetic out long ago, and certainly today. I don't think he's lying about the role UNLESS it is just that is teammate is the role (and it would follow that THEY were blocked).MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:59 pmSurely this whole idea that Oracle was roleblocked falls apart at the part where nobody would prioritise roleblocking an Oracle?Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:56 pmI don't think that your reflexive roleblock would extend to powers not used on you. As in, the silence would be blocked, but the Oracle wouldn't.MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:54 pmI was targeted and successfully roleblocked someone.
Silence was prevented as per host.
Leetic was roleblocked.
I think at least exploring this was a reasonable path for me to take no? I can't be expected going in to account for every piece of information Leetic has stated in his defense.
I think the omgus and vitriol hurled back at me is of the unreasonable amount given this.
Like take all the silence and Mac part away. Doesn't it make more sense he's just lying about being roleblocked to cover for the fact he lied about the role in the first place?
If you think blatant bad-faith misinterpretations of my arguments are "nice", then go ahead. I at least was responding to things that you were actually sayingMacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:05 pmJust for the record as an aside are you capable of withstanding accusations in a mafia game without resorting to vitriol and/or spark and/or belittling? Cuz if the answer is no I'll just stop doing it cuz I value my emotional state over the outcome of a mafia game.leetic wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:01 pmI don't know. If you can use the fact that the Oracle was roleblocked to try to mislynch the Oracle, maybe you would roleblock the Oracle as a wolf? Furthermore, all this is WIFOM and does not even remotely counter the hard mechanical evidence on my sideMacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:59 pmSurely this whole idea that Oracle was roleblocked falls apart at the part where nobody would prioritise roleblocking an Oracle?Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:56 pmI don't think that your reflexive roleblock would extend to powers not used on you. As in, the silence would be blocked, but the Oracle wouldn't.MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:54 pmI was targeted and successfully roleblocked someone.
Silence was prevented as per host.
Leetic was roleblocked.
I think at least exploring this was a reasonable path for me to take no? I can't be expected going in to account for every piece of information Leetic has stated in his defense.
I think the omgus and vitriol hurled back at me is of the unreasonable amount given this.
Like take all the silence and Mac part away. Doesn't it make more sense he's just lying about being roleblocked to cover for the fact he lied about the role in the first place?
Just want to point out you've been hostile and rude to me all game long and I've largely handled it with good faith but ... I can only exercise grace to a point.
I know everything changesMacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 1:22 pm Stuff got switched around eh.
That's weird.
LC did you get a check?
Hey... I love you, man.MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:00 pmSaying you're confused when it's easily explained as a typo felt like a mild accusation to me.Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:58 pmDon't treat me like I'm up your ass about it. You're the one who mis-typed, that's fine, just tell me.MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:55 pmConfirmation I blocked. I simply mis-spoke. How confusing LC. You've caught me in a typographical error. I shall never live it down.Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:54 pmHonestly, I'm confused on this one too. Mac is the guy with confirmation that HE blocked SOMEONE. Not that he was blocked. LEetic is the one with confirmation that he was blocked.leetic wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:50 pmI'm the one with confirmation I was blocked. The hell are you even saying?MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:49 pm I don't comprehend how you could think I've arrived at this station on the train of thought as mafia. I'm blatantly town with confirmation I was blocked. That should be supremely obvious even if my logic isn't optimal.
I didn't say nice but also your calling me lame and shit came well beforehand.leetic wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:08 pmIf you think blatant bad-faith misinterpretations of my arguments are "nice", then go ahead. I at least was responding to things that you were actually sayingMacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:05 pmJust for the record as an aside are you capable of withstanding accusations in a mafia game without resorting to vitriol and/or spark and/or belittling? Cuz if the answer is no I'll just stop doing it cuz I value my emotional state over the outcome of a mafia game.leetic wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:01 pmI don't know. If you can use the fact that the Oracle was roleblocked to try to mislynch the Oracle, maybe you would roleblock the Oracle as a wolf? Furthermore, all this is WIFOM and does not even remotely counter the hard mechanical evidence on my sideMacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:59 pmSurely this whole idea that Oracle was roleblocked falls apart at the part where nobody would prioritise roleblocking an Oracle?Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:56 pmI don't think that your reflexive roleblock would extend to powers not used on you. As in, the silence would be blocked, but the Oracle wouldn't.MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:54 pmI was targeted and successfully roleblocked someone.
Silence was prevented as per host.
Leetic was roleblocked.
I think at least exploring this was a reasonable path for me to take no? I can't be expected going in to account for every piece of information Leetic has stated in his defense.
I think the omgus and vitriol hurled back at me is of the unreasonable amount given this.
Like take all the silence and Mac part away. Doesn't it make more sense he's just lying about being roleblocked to cover for the fact he lied about the role in the first place?
Just want to point out you've been hostile and rude to me all game long and I've largely handled it with good faith but ... I can only exercise grace to a point.
God rest ye merry gentlemen
Whichever host invented post curses in the first place needs to be time paradoxedScotty wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:08 pmI know everything changesMacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 1:22 pm Stuff got switched around eh.
That's weird.
LC did you get a check?
Yeah, it's strange how time marches on
Maybe there'll be some time in the future
Oh, tell me I'm not wrong
That makes sense actually. If Abby's claim is real, she probably targeted me (or the real post restrictor did so to make it look like they were Abby). That would mean that the real blocked person was Scotty, and I guess redirecting has a higher priority over roleblocking?Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:06 pmThat is a possibility, but the Oracle SEEMS to have been blocked today. And if "the real Oracle" is a Town role, then they'd have called Leetic out long ago, and certainly today. I don't think he's lying about the role UNLESS it is just that is teammate is the role (and it would follow that THEY were blocked).MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:59 pmSurely this whole idea that Oracle was roleblocked falls apart at the part where nobody would prioritise roleblocking an Oracle?Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:56 pmI don't think that your reflexive roleblock would extend to powers not used on you. As in, the silence would be blocked, but the Oracle wouldn't.MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:54 pmI was targeted and successfully roleblocked someone.
Silence was prevented as per host.
Leetic was roleblocked.
I think at least exploring this was a reasonable path for me to take no? I can't be expected going in to account for every piece of information Leetic has stated in his defense.
I think the omgus and vitriol hurled back at me is of the unreasonable amount given this.
Like take all the silence and Mac part away. Doesn't it make more sense he's just lying about being roleblocked to cover for the fact he lied about the role in the first place?
BUT
The town roleblocker is dead. So it's likely that a Wolf blocked the Oracle, evidenced in the Host post.
That is extremely unlikely for a Wolf to choose. So my best theory is that the busdriver messed with the Wolf blocker.
WHICH MEANS that the busdriver should get their ass out here and let us know who the damn wolf is that they messed with.
But that hasn't happened. No, wait. Scotty is the busdriver. That fits with his trickle of info so far. Scotty busdrove me on N0, and I never targeted you, Mac? But I was still blocked.
I wish I had a good conclusion, but these are relevant thoughts anyway.
They didn't. They simply targeted LC or Rondo who had protection and failed.
There's honestly a fair chance that it was me.MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:10 pmWhichever host invented post curses in the first place needs to be time paradoxedScotty wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:08 pmI know everything changesMacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 1:22 pm Stuff got switched around eh.
That's weird.
LC did you get a check?
Yeah, it's strange how time marches on
Maybe there'll be some time in the future
Oh, tell me I'm not wrong
She said she targeted Tutuu.leetic wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:10 pmThat makes sense actually. If Abby's claim is real, she probably targeted me (or the real post restrictor did so to make it look like they were Abby). That would mean that the real blocked person was Scotty, and I guess redirecting has a higher priority over roleblocking?Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:06 pmThat is a possibility, but the Oracle SEEMS to have been blocked today. And if "the real Oracle" is a Town role, then they'd have called Leetic out long ago, and certainly today. I don't think he's lying about the role UNLESS it is just that is teammate is the role (and it would follow that THEY were blocked).MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:59 pmSurely this whole idea that Oracle was roleblocked falls apart at the part where nobody would prioritise roleblocking an Oracle?Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:56 pmI don't think that your reflexive roleblock would extend to powers not used on you. As in, the silence would be blocked, but the Oracle wouldn't.MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:54 pmI was targeted and successfully roleblocked someone.
Silence was prevented as per host.
Leetic was roleblocked.
I think at least exploring this was a reasonable path for me to take no? I can't be expected going in to account for every piece of information Leetic has stated in his defense.
I think the omgus and vitriol hurled back at me is of the unreasonable amount given this.
Like take all the silence and Mac part away. Doesn't it make more sense he's just lying about being roleblocked to cover for the fact he lied about the role in the first place?
BUT
The town roleblocker is dead. So it's likely that a Wolf blocked the Oracle, evidenced in the Host post.
That is extremely unlikely for a Wolf to choose. So my best theory is that the busdriver messed with the Wolf blocker.
WHICH MEANS that the busdriver should get their ass out here and let us know who the damn wolf is that they messed with.
But that hasn't happened. No, wait. Scotty is the busdriver. That fits with his trickle of info so far. Scotty busdrove me on N0, and I never targeted you, Mac? But I was still blocked.
I wish I had a good conclusion, but these are relevant thoughts anyway.