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Re: Mass Effect Mafia (Day 4)

Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2017 10:04 pm
by Epignosis
Long Con wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
TonyStarkPrime wrote:
Epignosis wrote:I've assigned everyone alive a score and a rank.

DrWilgy = Hard 3
Fredwood = Hard 2
nutella = Hard 2
Dyslexicon = Soft 2
Adam = Hard 1
Jackofhearts2005 = Hard 1
CaptainNifty = Soft 1
sprityo = Softer 1
Immortal_Raven = Soft 0
MovingPictures07 = Soft 0
TonyStarkPrime = Softer 0
S~V~S = Softest 0
Long Con = Soft -1
Don't know what Hard and Soft are, the number is how many confirmed maf they have voted for.
If robots could feel love, I'd love you for trying.
Epi, where is your head at right now? Your play today has been odd, do you want to talk about it?
Odd? What should my play today ideally be?

Re: Mass Effect Mafia (Day 4)

Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2017 10:07 pm
by Long Con
Epignosis wrote:
Long Con wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
TonyStarkPrime wrote:
Epignosis wrote:I've assigned everyone alive a score and a rank.

DrWilgy = Hard 3
Fredwood = Hard 2
nutella = Hard 2
Dyslexicon = Soft 2
Adam = Hard 1
Jackofhearts2005 = Hard 1
CaptainNifty = Soft 1
sprityo = Softer 1
Immortal_Raven = Soft 0
MovingPictures07 = Soft 0
TonyStarkPrime = Softer 0
S~V~S = Softest 0
Long Con = Soft -1
Don't know what Hard and Soft are, the number is how many confirmed maf they have voted for.
If robots could feel love, I'd love you for trying.
Epi, where is your head at right now? Your play today has been odd, do you want to talk about it?
Odd? What should my play today ideally be?
We don't have to talk if you don't want to.

Re: Mass Effect Mafia (Day 4)

Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2017 10:09 pm
by Epignosis
You can talk about whatever you would like.

Re: Mass Effect Mafia (Day 4)

Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2017 10:15 pm
by Immortal_Raven
I know that sprityo claimed that, but RTing oneself is inherently a weak idea. If you're killed or blocked or MDed in any way, your action is in effect wasted. I would think a solid player would know that even if powers aren't the norm here.

My more likely scenario is that sprit has been lightly after me since gfish was lynched, indicating that he thinks I'm Cereberus aligned. Saren of the Reapers has a one-shot tracking ability that I would say he hoped to catch me killing someone last night. Failing that, hoping to catch me in a lie about who I targeted would be an option. I'm on a lot of crap lists for being both quiet and not lynching folks who turned out to be scum. If he can waste a day lynching me, he can chalk it up to reads relatively easy as I'm not a terribly controversial lynch candidate at this point.

Bottom line, the action sprit claims to have taken is weak at best and I don't believe it for one minute. I think he's Saren or possibly Aria in the neutral segment.

Re: Mass Effect Mafia (Day 4)

Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2017 10:16 pm
by Long Con
sprityo wrote:
Jackofhearts2005 wrote:For the record, I think self watching is generally a huge waste, especially with outed townies.
:workit: My gut told me to do it, and my gut got me some results

I dont see it as a waste

linki: unless your killer poisons you and you die the night after. but that's just me
1. What do you mean, Jack, "especially with outed townies"? Is sprityo an outed townie?

2. So, sprit is claiming to have self-watched, and Tali is the only role that can do that? I haven't looked at the roles for that yet.

3. Night 3, sprit, you self-watch and use up one of your two uses, based on gut. Do you suspect I_R? Do you know what he did to you? What are the possibilities?

Re: Mass Effect Mafia (Day 4)

Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2017 10:16 pm
by Immortal_Raven
FWIW, Wilgy moved his vote to Sprityo.

Re: Mass Effect Mafia (Day 4)

Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2017 10:20 pm
by Long Con
Immortal_Raven wrote:I know that sprityo claimed that, but RTing oneself is inherently a weak idea. If you're killed or blocked or MDed in any way, your action is in effect wasted. I would think a solid player would know that even if powers aren't the norm here.

My more likely scenario is that sprit has been lightly after me since gfish was lynched, indicating that he thinks I'm Cereberus aligned. Saren of the Reapers has a one-shot tracking ability that I would say he hoped to catch me killing someone last night. Failing that, hoping to catch me in a lie about who I targeted would be an option. I'm on a lot of crap lists for being both quiet and not lynching folks who turned out to be scum. If he can waste a day lynching me, he can chalk it up to reads relatively easy as I'm not a terribly controversial lynch candidate at this point.

Bottom line, the action sprit claims to have taken is weak at best and I don't believe it for one minute. I think he's Saren or possibly Aria in the neutral segment.
Reverse-Tracking. RTing. Got it. These are new terms for most Syndicate folk, I think. We don't have a standard set of lingo for watching and tracking; those roles have been rarities in the past as far as I can remember

Your version of things sounds more believable than sprityo's version, at least at this point, where I'm still working toward full understanding of all the possibilities (as in, which roles are out there that can track/watch/RT, etc).

Re: Mass Effect Mafia (Day 4)

Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2017 10:34 pm
by Jackofhearts2005
Long Con wrote:
sprityo wrote:
Jackofhearts2005 wrote:For the record, I think self watching is generally a huge waste, especially with outed townies.
:workit: My gut told me to do it, and my gut got me some results

I dont see it as a waste

linki: unless your killer poisons you and you die the night after. but that's just me
1. What do you mean, Jack, "especially with outed townies"? Is sprityo an outed townie?

2. So, sprit is claiming to have self-watched, and Tali is the only role that can do that? I haven't looked at the roles for that yet.

3. Night 3, sprit, you self-watch and use up one of your two uses, based on gut. Do you suspect I_R? Do you know what he did to you? What are the possibilities?
1. No. I mean a watcher should be watching confirmed/suspected townies to try to catch a scum killer red handed. Watching yourself usually doesn't help and leaves townies open to kill/block/misdirect/etc.

2. Yes but no. Other people could do that (as Raven pointed out, there's a mafia member with a track) or the results (just confirming what IR said) could have been made up.

Re: Mass Effect Mafia (Day 4)

Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2017 10:35 pm
by Jackofhearts2005
Immortal_Raven wrote:I know that sprityo claimed that, but RTing oneself is inherently a weak idea. If you're killed or blocked or MDed in any way, your action is in effect wasted. I would think a solid player would know that even if powers aren't the norm here.

My more likely scenario is that sprit has been lightly after me since gfish was lynched, indicating that he thinks I'm Cereberus aligned. Saren of the Reapers has a one-shot tracking ability that I would say he hoped to catch me killing someone last night. Failing that, hoping to catch me in a lie about who I targeted would be an option. I'm on a lot of crap lists for being both quiet and not lynching folks who turned out to be scum. If he can waste a day lynching me, he can chalk it up to reads relatively easy as I'm not a terribly controversial lynch candidate at this point.

Bottom line, the action sprit claims to have taken is weak at best and I don't believe it for one minute. I think he's Saren or possibly Aria in the neutral segment.
Don't think I didn't notice who claimed first. Nothing saying Syo has a track or watch at all.

That said, I'm not inclined to vote Sprityo today.

Re: Mass Effect Mafia (Day 4)

Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2017 10:41 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
Long Con wrote: Reverse-Tracking. RTing. Got it. These are new terms for most Syndicate folk, I think. We don't have a standard set of lingo for watching and tracking; those roles have been rarities in the past as far as I can remember
I've had to google a dozen acronyms that you guys were using. That's why we play together: to learn.

Re: Mass Effect Mafia (Day 4)

Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2017 10:46 pm
by Adam
Sorry I haven't been around, I've been sick the past two days. I'll be trying to catch up tomorrow.

Re: Mass Effect Mafia (Day 4)

Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2017 10:50 pm
by Jackofhearts2005
Epi is attempting to sacrifice himself.

:ponder:

Is there a reason not to let him?

Re: Mass Effect Mafia (Day 4)

Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2017 10:53 pm
by Long Con
Jackofhearts2005 wrote:Epi is attempting to sacrifice himself.

:ponder:

Is there a reason not to let him?
What makes you say that?

Re: Mass Effect Mafia (Day 4)

Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2017 10:53 pm
by Epignosis
Jackofhearts2005 wrote:Epi is attempting to sacrifice himself.

:ponder:

Is there a reason not to let him?
Holy shit.

:rolleyes:

Re: Mass Effect Mafia (Day 4)

Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2017 10:56 pm
by Jackofhearts2005
Long Con wrote:
Jackofhearts2005 wrote:Epi is attempting to sacrifice himself.

:ponder:

Is there a reason not to let him?
What makes you say that?
Cause he's not trying to get us to not lynch him.

Epi's good. He's surly. He will fucking fight you to stay alive.

But today? He's entirely passive. You and I have practically begged him to give us a reason to spare him and he didn't feel the need to.

Why? He wants to die is all I can come up with.

Re: Mass Effect Mafia (Day 4)

Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2017 10:56 pm
by sprityo
naw

anyways, ive already explained why i watched myself, if you choose not to believe that, well i apologize.

in my own words i said "If I am able to, i want to RT myself, otherwise i want to watch DrWilgy"

to which i got a response along the lines of "youre allowed to watch yourself" and i was like cool

but it appears my other course of action wouldve been better. damn you self targetting :fist: why did you have to be such a good idea in my head?

Re: Mass Effect Mafia (Day 4)

Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2017 10:58 pm
by Epignosis
Jackofhearts2005 wrote:
Long Con wrote:
Jackofhearts2005 wrote:Epi is attempting to sacrifice himself.

:ponder:

Is there a reason not to let him?
What makes you say that?
Cause he's not trying to get us to not lynch him.

Epi's good. He's surly. He will fucking fight you to stay alive.

But today? He's entirely passive. You and I have practically begged him to give us a reason to spare him and he didn't feel the need to.

Why? He wants to die is all I can come up with.
Since when I have cared about people begging me to do something?

Lynch someone else please.

Please.

Please...

Please!

Re: Mass Effect Mafia (Day 4)

Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2017 10:59 pm
by sprityo
:nicenod:

Re: Mass Effect Mafia (Day 4)

Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2017 10:59 pm
by Jackofhearts2005
sprityo wrote:naw

anyways, ive already explained why i watched myself, if you choose not to believe that, well i apologize.

in my own words i said "If I am able to, i want to RT myself, otherwise i want to watch DrWilgy"

to which i got a response along the lines of "youre allowed to watch yourself" and i was like cool

but it appears my other course of action wouldve been better. damn you self targetting :fist: why did you have to be such a good idea in my head?
Yeah. Wigly would have been a lot better.

I'd like you to watch me tonight if you are who you say you are. I don't want to be silenced again. You don't have to say anything. Just throwing that out there.

Re: Mass Effect Mafia (Day 4)

Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2017 11:00 pm
by Jackofhearts2005
Epignosis wrote:
Jackofhearts2005 wrote:
Long Con wrote:
Jackofhearts2005 wrote:Epi is attempting to sacrifice himself.

:ponder:

Is there a reason not to let him?
What makes you say that?
Cause he's not trying to get us to not lynch him.

Epi's good. He's surly. He will fucking fight you to stay alive.

But today? He's entirely passive. You and I have practically begged him to give us a reason to spare him and he didn't feel the need to.

Why? He wants to die is all I can come up with.
Since when I have cared about people begging me to do something?

Lynch someone else please.

Please.

Please...

Please!
Why you vote for townie?

Re: Mass Effect Mafia (Day 4)

Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2017 11:00 pm
by Epignosis
I am unhappy that nobody figured this out yet.
Epignosis wrote:I've assigned everyone alive a score and a rank.

DrWilgy = Hard 3
Fredwood = Hard 2
nutella = Hard 2
Dyslexicon = Soft 2
Adam = Hard 1
Jackofhearts2005 = Hard 1
CaptainNifty = Soft 1
sprityo = Softer 1
Immortal_Raven = Soft 0
MovingPictures07 = Soft 0
TonyStarkPrime = Softer 0
S~V~S = Softest 0
Long Con = Soft -1
Nothing has changed, by the way. :ponder:

Re: Mass Effect Mafia (Day 4)

Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2017 11:01 pm
by Epignosis
Jackofhearts2005 wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
Jackofhearts2005 wrote:
Long Con wrote:
Jackofhearts2005 wrote:Epi is attempting to sacrifice himself.

:ponder:

Is there a reason not to let him?
What makes you say that?
Cause he's not trying to get us to not lynch him.

Epi's good. He's surly. He will fucking fight you to stay alive.

But today? He's entirely passive. You and I have practically begged him to give us a reason to spare him and he didn't feel the need to.

Why? He wants to die is all I can come up with.
Since when I have cared about people begging me to do something?

Lynch someone else please.

Please.

Please...

Please!
Why you vote for townie?
Is that what I did?

Re: Mass Effect Mafia (Day 4)

Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2017 11:01 pm
by sprityo
Jackofhearts2005 wrote:
sprityo wrote:naw

anyways, ive already explained why i watched myself, if you choose not to believe that, well i apologize.

in my own words i said "If I am able to, i want to RT myself, otherwise i want to watch DrWilgy"

to which i got a response along the lines of "youre allowed to watch yourself" and i was like cool

but it appears my other course of action wouldve been better. damn you self targetting :fist: why did you have to be such a good idea in my head?
Yeah. Wigly would have been a lot better.

I'd like you to watch me tonight if you are who you say you are. I don't want to be silenced again. You don't have to say anything. Just throwing that out there.
That's a negatory, ive used up both my RT's already

I've got both shots of my other ability ready though

if you must know, Nobody targetted JoH Night 1

Re: Mass Effect Mafia (Day 4)

Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2017 11:01 pm
by sprityo
Night 2, i admittedly forgot to submit an action

Re: Mass Effect Mafia (Day 4)

Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2017 11:02 pm
by Jackofhearts2005
Hard means you think they are boys. Soft means you think they are girls.

Re: Mass Effect Mafia (Day 4)

Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2017 11:02 pm
by sprityo
Jackofhearts2005 wrote:Hard means you think they are boys. Soft means you think they are girls.
boo, bad joke

get off the stage

Re: Mass Effect Mafia (Day 4)

Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2017 11:04 pm
by Jackofhearts2005
Epignosis wrote:
Jackofhearts2005 wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
Jackofhearts2005 wrote:
Long Con wrote:
Jackofhearts2005 wrote:Epi is attempting to sacrifice himself.

:ponder:

Is there a reason not to let him?
What makes you say that?
Cause he's not trying to get us to not lynch him.

Epi's good. He's surly. He will fucking fight you to stay alive.

But today? He's entirely passive. You and I have practically begged him to give us a reason to spare him and he didn't feel the need to.

Why? He wants to die is all I can come up with.
Since when I have cared about people begging me to do something?

Lynch someone else please.

Please.

Please...

Please!
Why you vote for townie?
Is that what I did?
Yes. Why don't you vote for a baddie instead?

Re: Mass Effect Mafia (Day 4)

Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2017 11:08 pm
by Epignosis
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Yes. Why don't you vote for a baddie instead?
Just curious- why is Wilgy a civilian?

Re: Mass Effect Mafia (Day 4)

Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2017 11:11 pm
by Long Con
Epignosis wrote:I am unhappy that nobody figured this out yet.
Dude, I signed up for Mass Effect Mafia, not Epignosis' Sub-Game Riddle. I've just been waiting for you to reveal your cool scheme.

Re: Mass Effect Mafia (Day 4)

Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2017 11:12 pm
by Long Con
Epignosis wrote:
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Yes. Why don't you vote for a baddie instead?
Just curious- why is Wilgy a civilian?
Yah. This. Wilgy is not a Civilian, people.

Re: Mass Effect Mafia (Day 4)

Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2017 11:12 pm
by Epignosis
Long Con wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Yes. Why don't you vote for a baddie instead?
Just curious- why is Wilgy a civilian?
Yah. This. Wilgy is not a Civilian, people.
I know Wilgy's exact role.

Re: Mass Effect Mafia (Day 4)

Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2017 11:13 pm
by Jackofhearts2005
Epignosis wrote:
Long Con wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Yes. Why don't you vote for a baddie instead?
Just curious- why is Wilgy a civilian?
Yah. This. Wilgy is not a Civilian, people.
I know Wilgy's exact role.
Lol do tell.

Re: Mass Effect Mafia (Day 4)

Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2017 11:15 pm
by Epignosis
Jackofhearts2005 wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
Long Con wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Yes. Why don't you vote for a baddie instead?
Just curious- why is Wilgy a civilian?
Yah. This. Wilgy is not a Civilian, people.
I know Wilgy's exact role.
Lol do tell.
Eh, he can tell you himself.




Oh.

:haha:

Re: Mass Effect Mafia (Day 4)

Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2017 11:19 pm
by Jackofhearts2005
S'okay. I already have it narrowed way down.

Re: Mass Effect Mafia (Day 4)

Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2017 11:38 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
Epignosis wrote:
Long Con wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Yes. Why don't you vote for a baddie instead?
Just curious- why is Wilgy a civilian?
Yah. This. Wilgy is not a Civilian, people.
I know Wilgy's exact role.
So you claim to know Wilgy's exact role. JOH knows a subset of what Wilgy's role could be. I doubt there is overlap, considering one of you is voting for him and the other isn't. Especially considering Geth, your claim, has no role guessing abilities, so unless he is Reaper and he is on your team, you wouldn't know.

Or you could just not be Geth.

Re: Mass Effect Mafia (Day 4)

Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2017 11:40 pm
by Jackofhearts2005
Think I know what I'm talking about, TSP?

Re: Mass Effect Mafia (Day 4)

Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2017 11:40 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
Epignosis wrote:I am unhappy that nobody figured this out yet.
Epignosis wrote:I've assigned everyone alive a score and a rank.

DrWilgy = Hard 3
Fredwood = Hard 2
nutella = Hard 2
Dyslexicon = Soft 2
Adam = Hard 1
Jackofhearts2005 = Hard 1
CaptainNifty = Soft 1
sprityo = Softer 1
Immortal_Raven = Soft 0
MovingPictures07 = Soft 0
TonyStarkPrime = Softer 0
S~V~S = Softest 0
Long Con = Soft -1
Nothing has changed, by the way. :ponder:
Number is Confirmed Maf voted for - Confirmed Town voted for at the end of the day

Hard is if they vote for people who have claimed

Soft is if they vote for people who haven't claimed

Re: Mass Effect Mafia (Day 4)

Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2017 11:42 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
Long Con wrote:
Jackofhearts2005 wrote:Nutella = Yes, I get Epi's list
Ok, if that's the case then I'll leave the latest multi-choice one up. To answer "It's who she isn't talking about", choose S~V~S instead Wilgy!
This is probably why Wilgy was voting for SVS, combing back through and I saw this.

Re: Mass Effect Mafia (Day 4)

Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2017 11:44 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
Jackofhearts2005 wrote:Think I know what I'm talking about, TSP?
Slip of the keyboard.

Re: Mass Effect Mafia (Day 4)

Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2017 11:48 pm
by Jackofhearts2005
Never did like the Geth.

Re: Mass Effect Mafia (Day 4)

Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2017 11:57 pm
by Epignosis
Let's lynch Jack, who can't vote to save himself.

Re: Mass Effect Mafia (Day 4)

Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2017 11:58 pm
by Long Con
I can't decide whether this is all "wack", or "cray".

I hope history doesn't judge me too harshly for not understanding the latest ""revelations"".

Re: Mass Effect Mafia (Day 4)

Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2017 12:00 am
by Long Con
Also:
Epignosis wrote:
Long Con wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Yes. Why don't you vote for a baddie instead?
Just curious- why is Wilgy a civilian?
Yah. This. Wilgy is not a Civilian, people.
I know Wilgy's exact role.
Oh. :eek: Am... am I right about him?

Re: Mass Effect Mafia (Day 4)

Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2017 12:06 am
by Jackofhearts2005
Long Con wrote:I can't decide whether this is all "wack", or "cray".

I hope history doesn't judge me too harshly for not understanding the latest ""revelations"".
Remember Phenom when it was so obvious but things went to shit anyhow?

Don't be the Sig, here.

Re: Mass Effect Mafia (Day 4)

Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2017 12:07 am
by Jackofhearts2005
*sigh*

It might be best to just tell you, regardless of your alignment.

Re: Mass Effect Mafia (Day 4)

Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2017 12:12 am
by Jackofhearts2005
TSP is Shepherd and he's fucking Wigly.

Re: Mass Effect Mafia (Day 4)

Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2017 12:15 am
by Long Con
Jackofhearts2005 wrote:TSP is Shepherd and he's fucking Wigly.
Romantic.

I thought someone else was Shepherd.

Re: Mass Effect Mafia (Day 4)

Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2017 12:20 am
by Fredwood
I thought Marmot was Shepherd.

Re: Mass Effect Mafia (Day 4)

Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2017 12:22 am
by Jackofhearts2005
Fredwood wrote:I thought Marmot was Shepherd.
Image

Re: Mass Effect Mafia (Day 4)

Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2017 12:30 am
by Fredwood
Fry meme aside, care to say how you came to this groundbreaking information?