The Syndicate

Posted: **Fri Apr 29, 2016 4:36 pm**

Long Con wrote:
Scotty wrote:
Long Con wrote:Hey guys, that was a harrowing lynch, I'm glad we finally got one in Sorsha. Oh yeah, also how's about you don't lynch me because I'm not a freakin' baddie?!

I don't know what inspired people to hop on the classic old "LC is a baddie" train, but I assure you that you don't want to lynch me. I don't really know what else to say, is there a case against me, or did someone just point their finger and everyone ran where they were pointing?
Eyyyyyy lmao your wife thinks you're bad.
Case and point.
Well, I've been lynched for much less, but that doesn't change the fact that she's wrong... or the fact that there's no real case for me to even rebut.

How dare you state publicly that I am wrong. Especially when I'm not.

Posted: **Fri Apr 29, 2016 4:42 pm**

Long Con has been night killed.
It is now Day 7. You have 48 hours to lynch someone.

A letter from our editor:
Death to Long Con
So we should lynch LC today. Don't get distracted! I may not be with you anymore, I feel my life is threatened. I see shadows lurking all around. Looks like a "Long" shadow.

Posted: **Fri Apr 29, 2016 4:49 pm**

Posted: **Fri Apr 29, 2016 6:03 pm**

Well.... wtf.

Posted: **Fri Apr 29, 2016 6:11 pm**

Well then.

ika, MetalMarsh89, and Matt are the three names at the top of my list for that.

Who would throw strategy to the sea and do something like kill Long Con on the eve of his lynch?

Posted: **Fri Apr 29, 2016 6:12 pm**

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Posted: **Fri Apr 29, 2016 6:23 pm**

Epignosis wrote:Well then.

ika, MetalMarsh89, and Matt are the three names at the top of my list for that.

Who would throw strategy to the sea and do something like kill Long Con on the eve of his lynch?

Beats me, I would have left him be. I just can't figure out how I read him so wrong that I was sure he was bad.

Posted: **Fri Apr 29, 2016 6:49 pm**

ika, why'd you kill Long Con?

Posted: **Fri Apr 29, 2016 7:07 pm**

I think I'll have a drink tonight after that result.

Posted: **Fri Apr 29, 2016 7:27 pm**

What the crap? What kind of bass ackwards stunt was that, Mafia?

Hmmph. Sorry LC, guess you were good. RIP

In other news, I'm beginning to trust MM more

Posted: **Fri Apr 29, 2016 8:02 pm**

Personally, mainly because I'm stubborn, I'm not putting it outside the realm of possibility that LC was bad and his team killed him to protect his identity, seeing that his lynch seemed inevitable. What that means for this new lynch, I'm not sure. But I'm not buying that LC was civ. If he was, killing him would make no sense for the baddies.

Posted: **Fri Apr 29, 2016 8:03 pm**

LoRab wrote:Personally, mainly because I'm stubborn, I'm not putting it outside the realm of possibility that LC was bad and his team killed him to protect his identity, seeing that his lynch seemed inevitable. What that means for this new lynch, I'm not sure. But I'm not buying that LC was civ. If he was, killing him would make no sense for the baddies.

Killing him regardless makes no sense from a strategic standpoint.

Posted: **Fri Apr 29, 2016 8:08 pm**

Epignosis wrote:
LoRab wrote:Personally, mainly because I'm stubborn, I'm not putting it outside the realm of possibility that LC was bad and his team killed him to protect his identity, seeing that his lynch seemed inevitable. What that means for this new lynch, I'm not sure. But I'm not buying that LC was civ. If he was, killing him would make no sense for the baddies.
Killing him regardless makes no sense from a strategic standpoint.

I've seen it happen. And your logic of what makes sense is not necessarily the same as others' logic.

Posted: **Fri Apr 29, 2016 8:15 pm**

LoRab wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
LoRab wrote:Personally, mainly because I'm stubborn, I'm not putting it outside the realm of possibility that LC was bad and his team killed him to protect his identity, seeing that his lynch seemed inevitable. What that means for this new lynch, I'm not sure. But I'm not buying that LC was civ. If he was, killing him would make no sense for the baddies.
Killing him regardless makes no sense from a strategic standpoint.
I've seen it happen. And your logic of what makes sense is not necessarily the same as others' logic.

That's why I qualified: "From a strategic standpoint." If he's your teammate, it's not strategically sound to kill him, because you, the sole remaining mafia member, can end up lynched and the game is over and you lose. If he's not your teammate, it's not strategically sound to kill him because he's almost assuredly getting lynched next, so that would eat up a lynch and give your team another kill.

The only thing that remotely makes any strategic sense is that Sorsha checked LC and figured he would be a dangerous role to be made public in the thread, but I don't see that being the case at all. Long Con didn't vote Sorsha- he voted Illyria.

The only exception would be if they found that Long Con was the doctor, who had not used his resurrection yet (presumably waiting for Lady Mary, Edith, or Sybil to be lynched), or Mr. Molesley, and didn't want him to stop the lynch, because that could clear him either way.

I think I just talked myself into the most logical answer.

Posted: **Fri Apr 29, 2016 8:17 pm**

I haven't said this yet either, I don't think, but I believe we can rule out ika as The Doctor because he would have resurrected Silverwolf first thing.

Posted: **Fri Apr 29, 2016 8:25 pm**

fyi I'm at the movies so I'll be prob be posting tonight.

Posted: **Fri Apr 29, 2016 8:37 pm**

No, upon reflection, I still think the mafia are playing head games and having a laugh at killing the top suspect.

Posted: **Fri Apr 29, 2016 11:31 pm**

Epignosis wrote:No, upon reflection, I still think the mafia are playing head games and having a laugh at killing the top suspect.

Joseph Moseley
Mr. Moseley get's a second chance at Downton as First Footman after leaving his job as a butler serving Isobel Crawley. He's a bit of a misfit but strives to do his job well.
Likes: Having someone to talk to
Dislikes: Unkindness
Second chances are always nice. Mr. Moseley will not be lynched the first time he receives the most votes.

also epi, while it would entirely be my kind of kill becasue it is what you said, it makes head games, im not scum

Posted: **Fri Apr 29, 2016 11:33 pm**

Epignosis wrote:ika, why'd you kill Long Con?

Posted: **Fri Apr 29, 2016 11:34 pm**

if he was that role, lynching him today would confirm him as town going into night. so if scums checked him that makes the most sense

Posted: **Fri Apr 29, 2016 11:34 pm**

Epignosis wrote:
Epignosis wrote:ika, why'd you kill Long Con?

read the post above that, i answered your damn question

Posted: **Fri Apr 29, 2016 11:35 pm**

ika wrote:if he was that role, lynching him today would confirm him as town going into night. so if scums checked him that makes the most sense

At first glance, that would seem to be the case. But optimal strategy would leave him alone, let him stop the lynch, and then night kill him then.

Posted: **Fri Apr 29, 2016 11:37 pm**

Epignosis wrote:
ika wrote:if he was that role, lynching him today would confirm him as town going into night. so if scums checked him that makes the most sense
At first glance, that would seem to be the case. But optimal strategy would leave him alone, let him stop the lynch, and then night kill him then.

no......

thats suboptimal, we have all night phase then for a confirmed town to speak his thoughts. the optimal play is to remove ny chance of any confrimed towns ever showing, even if he only made a few post, a confirmed town in night is 10 times better then no confrimed towns

Posted: **Fri Apr 29, 2016 11:38 pm**

ika wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
ika wrote:if he was that role, lynching him today would confirm him as town going into night. so if scums checked him that makes the most sense
At first glance, that would seem to be the case. But optimal strategy would leave him alone, let him stop the lynch, and then night kill him then.
no......

thats suboptimal, we have all night phase then for a confirmed town to speak his thoughts. the optimal play is to remove ny chance of any confrimed towns ever showing, even if he only made a few post, a confirmed town in night is 10 times better then no confrimed towns

We?

Posted: **Fri Apr 29, 2016 11:39 pm**

Epignosis wrote:
ika wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
ika wrote:if he was that role, lynching him today would confirm him as town going into night. so if scums checked him that makes the most sense
At first glance, that would seem to be the case. But optimal strategy would leave him alone, let him stop the lynch, and then night kill him then.
no......

thats suboptimal, we have all night phase then for a confirmed town to speak his thoughts. the optimal play is to remove ny chance of any confrimed towns ever showing, even if he only made a few post, a confirmed town in night is 10 times better then no confrimed towns
We?

eevryone who is alive and can post

Posted: **Fri Apr 29, 2016 11:42 pm**

Why are you voting yourself again?

Why did you vote Illyria?

Posted: **Fri Apr 29, 2016 11:47 pm**

I see you have moved to thellama73. Any reason why?

Posted: **Sat Apr 30, 2016 9:43 am**

Epignosis wrote:Well then.

ika, MetalMarsh89, and Matt are the three names at the top of my list for that.

Who would throw strategy to the sea and do something like kill Long Con on the eve of his lynch?

I agree with you on Matt and ika, but I disagree with you on the Metalmarsh89 fellow.

I can think of a couple reasons that Long Con was nightkilled. They aren't great reasons, but based on recent events, one of them has to be the case.

1) Mafia felt safe enough to make such a kill because they know the civilians are looking in the wrong direction.
2) Mafia is in a dangerous position, and opted to making a head-scratching kill choice to through off their pursuers.
3) As you mentioned, Long Con was a role that the mafia did not want alive.

As for whodunnit, I wouldn't put it past anyone who is currently left in the game, with the exceptions of BR and Epignosis.

Posted: **Sat Apr 30, 2016 9:44 am**

Actually, I think Epignosis very capable of this sort of thing, but this is the third time he's been of the lynch poll, so he's likely a non-mafia role.

Posted: **Sat Apr 30, 2016 10:17 am**

Am I capable of poor strategy? I suppose I am, just like I'm capable of missing a basketball hoop by more than fifty feet.

Posted: **Sat Apr 30, 2016 10:34 am**

Illy, I hate god damned insanifiers too.

LoRab wrote:Personally, mainly because I'm stubborn, I'm not putting it outside the realm of possibility that LC was bad and his team killed him to protect his identity, seeing that his lynch seemed inevitable. What that means for this new lynch, I'm not sure. But I'm not buying that LC was civ. If he was, killing him would make no sense for the baddies.

I do not think this is what happened. At all. LC was civ.

Posted: **Sat Apr 30, 2016 10:57 am**

Dom wrote:Illy, I hate god damned insanifiers too.
LoRab wrote:Personally, mainly because I'm stubborn, I'm not putting it outside the realm of possibility that LC was bad and his team killed him to protect his identity, seeing that his lynch seemed inevitable. What that means for this new lynch, I'm not sure. But I'm not buying that LC was civ. If he was, killing him would make no sense for the baddies.
I do not think this is what happened. At all. LC was civ.

I don't think it's the most likely thing that happened, I just think it's in the realm of possibility.

That said, it doesn't really help with figuring out who to lynch this round.

Posted: **Sat Apr 30, 2016 11:18 am**

I think the baddies migth be scared of LC's opinions. LC thought that the following people were suspicious in his most recent posts:
-Dom
-Scotty
-Illy
I'm not baddie, but I'm happy to defend myself.

I also think ika is suspicious.

Posted: **Sat Apr 30, 2016 11:50 am**

Epignosis wrote:Am I capable of poor strategy? I suppose I am, just like I'm capable of missing a basketball hoop by more than fifty feet.

Certainly! You are human like the rest of us.

I changed my mind about llama though. He is incapable of anything less than perfection.

Posted: **Sat Apr 30, 2016 4:22 pm**

So...who feels like lynching Dom?

Posted: **Sat Apr 30, 2016 4:51 pm**

Epignosis wrote:So...who feels like lynching Dom?

Not ika anymore? I thought you were feeling an ika lynch

Posted: **Sat Apr 30, 2016 5:10 pm**

Scotty wrote:
Epignosis wrote:So...who feels like lynching Dom?
Not ika anymore? I thought you were feeling an ika lynch

So you don't have an opinion on Dom?

Posted: **Sat Apr 30, 2016 5:15 pm**

Epignosis wrote:
Scotty wrote:
Epignosis wrote:So...who feels like lynching Dom?
Not ika anymore? I thought you were feeling an ika lynch
So you don't have an opinion on Dom?

That wasn't what I asked

Posted: **Sat Apr 30, 2016 5:16 pm**

Scotty wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
Scotty wrote:
Epignosis wrote:So...who feels like lynching Dom?
Not ika anymore? I thought you were feeling an ika lynch
So you don't have an opinion on Dom?
That wasn't what I asked

And...your response wasn't what I asked.

Posted: **Sat Apr 30, 2016 6:02 pm**

Rob I am not bad.

Posted: **Sat Apr 30, 2016 6:15 pm**

Dom wrote:Rob I am not bad.

I'm not so sure.

Dom.

Posted: **Sat Apr 30, 2016 6:34 pm**

Epignosis wrote:
Dom wrote:Rob I am not bad.
I'm not so sure.

Dom.

I understand why. My vote yesterday is not a good look.

Posted: **Sat Apr 30, 2016 7:46 pm**

I'm voting for Matt.

Posted: **Sat Apr 30, 2016 8:52 pm**

No one wants to discuss Dom's bullshit? He's practically been floating around doing nothing.

Posted: **Sun May 01, 2016 12:37 am**

LoRab wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
LoRab wrote:Personally, mainly because I'm stubborn, I'm not putting it outside the realm of possibility that LC was bad and his team killed him to protect his identity, seeing that his lynch seemed inevitable. What that means for this new lynch, I'm not sure. But I'm not buying that LC was civ. If he was, killing him would make no sense for the baddies.
Killing him regardless makes no sense from a strategic standpoint.
I've seen it happen. And your logic of what makes sense is not necessarily the same as others' logic.

Like DD, I was om his team and never understood or agreed. As far as I was concerned it didn't help. Would LC do it? Sure he would. But why? We have discussed it extensively. I decided it was a shit move. I think he agreed with it. Taking your own numbers out is always stupid, if you ask me.

Posted: **Sun May 01, 2016 12:39 am**

Metalmarsh89 wrote:I'm voting for Matt.

Why?

Your need to vote for him this game is just something I don't understand.

Posted: **Sun May 01, 2016 1:31 am**

Black Rock wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:I'm voting for Matt.

Why?

Your need to vote for him this game is just something I don't understand.

Why?

Because there's mafia left to lynch and Matt was trying to lynch Illy over Sorsha yesterday. Also, we haven't heard from Matt today. I suppose he could be silenced, but I'm fine leaving my vote there right now.

Who do you plan on voting for?

Posted: **Sun May 01, 2016 1:36 am**

Black Rock wrote:
LoRab wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
LoRab wrote:Personally, mainly because I'm stubborn, I'm not putting it outside the realm of possibility that LC was bad and his team killed him to protect his identity, seeing that his lynch seemed inevitable. What that means for this new lynch, I'm not sure. But I'm not buying that LC was civ. If he was, killing him would make no sense for the baddies.
Killing him regardless makes no sense from a strategic standpoint.
I've seen it happen. And your logic of what makes sense is not necessarily the same as others' logic.

Like DD, I was om his team and never understood or agreed. As far as I was concerned it didn't help. Would LC do it? Sure he would. But why? We have discussed it extensively. I decided it was a shit move. I think he agreed with it. Taking your own numbers out is always stupid, if you ask me.

Is this a reference to another game? What's DD?

Posted: **Sun May 01, 2016 4:23 am**

Epignosis wrote:
Scotty wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
Scotty wrote:
Epignosis wrote:So...who feels like lynching Dom?
Not ika anymore? I thought you were feeling an ika lynch
So you don't have an opinion on Dom?
That wasn't what I asked
And...your response wasn't what I asked.

Dom is a null read to me, but I'd possibly vote there.

Earlier (a few days ago I think) you mentioned thinking what llama was doing made sense, implying he was civ. How did you reach that conclusion?

Posted: **Sun May 01, 2016 10:53 am**

Epignosis wrote:No one wants to discuss Dom's bullshit? He's practically been floating around doing nothing.

I wish the people who know my role were alive.

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