The Syndicate

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 12:45 am

Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 12:43 am

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 12:40 amNo. It doesn't bother me at all.

Why?

I already explained this.

I am going to lynch somebody myself. All by myself.

Your votes don't count.

that doesn't explain anything about your views on nutella

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 12:45 am

Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 12:43 am

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 12:40 amNo. It doesn't bother me at all.

Why?

I already explained this.

I am going to lynch somebody myself. All by myself.

Your votes don't count.

I also don't really think this thing where you take control of the entire lynch is a good idea. Regardless of whether you have good ideas about who should be lynched, and regardless of whether you're even telling the truth about having a lynch switch at all, claiming that you do risks stifles discussion. If people believe their votes don't matter then they'll spend less time talking about who they're going to vote for and who they suspect. I don't see what the positive is supposed to be.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 1:13 am

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 12:45 am

Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 12:43 am

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 12:40 amNo. It doesn't bother me at all.

Why?

I already explained this.

I am going to lynch somebody myself. All by myself.

Your votes don't count.

I also don't really think this thing where you take control of the entire lynch is a good idea. Regardless of whether you have good ideas about who should be lynched, and regardless of whether you're even telling the truth about having a lynch switch at all, claiming that you do risks stifles discussion. If people believe their votes don't matter then they'll spend less time talking about who they're going to vote for and who they suspect. I don't see what the positive is supposed to be.

This is accurate. Discussion today has been halted by Epi going after Dunya and JJJ. There isn't much room of discussion outside of that unless someone wants to try to convince Epi that he's wrong.
But Epi could be making all of this up.
If everything Epi has said is a lie, then as it stands Nutella would get lynched. I don't like that outcome but I don't have a better one. I'll make the inevitable late day 1 argument: anyone wanna lynch rabbit? Seems pretty quiet.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 7:05 pm

rundontwalk wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 6:47 pm unvote Marmot
vote: Nutella

Gth, who would you kill right now? Think carefully as this person actually will die. I have a secret day kill.

There it is!

dayvig epi

fyi dayvigs in my games generally have to recite poems or reference 90s cartoons to use their powers.

Good grief. My eyes hurt.

VOTE: TONYSTARKPRIME

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 11:51 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 11:46 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 9:45 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 9:36 pm @sig Mac made a fake callout of rdw as a "trap", he didn't really scumread him, and as for kyle you may be remembering Tony's mysterious accusation of Kyle which he still has not explained

linki: oh jay says it was SFQ, which I didn't win ftr

Does anyone else have any thoughts on Kyle? Cause I'm surprised by the lack of thoughts on Kyle.

I think a better question is, do you have any thoughts on me? because you've brought me up twice now as a discussion topic without really giving a reason why.

If you want people to talk about me then be the change you want to see in the world.

I think I've come to the conclusion that I'm wrong / can't support myself but I want other people to tell me I'm wrong so I can feel better about switching my vote.

Can you please explain what it is you think you have on him? Nobody can tell you you're wrong if you don't say what it is you're thinking. I've seen Kyle's town style.

I don't really want to vote for rabbit tbh partially because he's my fellow pegasus and I'd prefer to give him a chance to get in here, and partially because I don't think his absence is indicative of a scum alignment -- he's been gone longer than the other two inactives (wilgy and lapluie) and I don't think he's even been online since he missed his chance to draft someone. If he were mafia he'd have been back by now. I'd be much more inclined to lynch wilgy or lap.

Kenway wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 1:47 am Good grief. My eyes hurt.

VOTE: TONYSTARKPRIME

What is your reasoning for this vote?

[mention]Jackofhearts2005[/mention] can we unvote without moving onto someone else?

if so UNVOTE TONYSTARKPRIME I would have done this ages ago had the possibility occurred to me lol

Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 1:13 am

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 12:45 am

Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 12:43 am

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 12:40 amNo. It doesn't bother me at all.

Why?

I already explained this.

I am going to lynch somebody myself. All by myself.

Your votes don't count.

I also don't really think this thing where you take control of the entire lynch is a good idea. Regardless of whether you have good ideas about who should be lynched, and regardless of whether you're even telling the truth about having a lynch switch at all, claiming that you do risks stifles discussion. If people believe their votes don't matter then they'll spend less time talking about who they're going to vote for and who they suspect. I don't see what the positive is supposed to be.

this is a good point tbh. I don't like being told that nobody's votes matter on day 1 and I don't like leaving the lynch in the hands of one person who doesn't have any more knowledge than anyone else (presumably). that being said, I'd be happy if circumstances lead to my surviving the lynch, I just hope it's not another valuable civ who ends up dying instead

Okay, so when I went to bed last night this was the last thing Kyle posted:

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 11:41 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 11:39 pm So, who's going to get nightkilled first?

Everyone knows everyone's abilities, right? The Mafia will kill the abilities that threaten them the most.... right?

Have I missed discussion on this?

why would we discuss that

which was weird

At the same time he had (and still has) the third highest post count but he hadn't posted much of substance. Which I'm typically fine with but while JJJ was making the high posters = town argument it seemed like an easy way for cred. So last night I had him on my 3 most likely mafia list.

When I woke up this morning there was that whole "does the day end tomorrow thing" which after several discussions about using naivety seemed a little off. Since I'm unfamiliar with meta, I put a vote there and tried to get others to make a read there. It didn't happen which means two things: 1. no one really had a read, and 2. mafia had better things to do. I kept the vote to see if the trend would continue.

After I voted for him he shifted pretty seamlessly into a "doing things" Kyle, so I guess something happened. In the last few hours he's made a few solid posts that I'd typically call town.

[mention]nutella[/mention] do you understand epi's aversion to reading you and/or talking about you in this game?

...k.... it really sounded like you had something more concrete but whatever. guess you've changed your mind, that's fine, I was just bewildered by how you worded your initial statement about him

linki, eh not really beyond what he's said about being wary of reading me wrong. but like his stubbornness about it seems like epi being epi

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 2:10 amlinki, eh not really beyond what he's said about being wary of reading me wrong. but like his stubbornness about it seems like epi being epi

do you have a read on epi?

Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 2:15 am

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 2:10 amlinki, eh not really beyond what he's said about being wary of reading me wrong. but like his stubbornness about it seems like epi being epi

do you have a read on epi?

I have said that I think he's town and I still do

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 2:19 am

Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 2:15 am

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 2:10 amlinki, eh not really beyond what he's said about being wary of reading me wrong. but like his stubbornness about it seems like epi being epi

do you have a read on epi?

I have said that I think he's town and I still do

hmmm okay.

rundontwalk
JaggedJimmyJay
dunya
MacDougall
sprityo
gwilikers6
Kylemii
colonialbob
Epignosis
Dragon D. Luffy
Marmot
Dr. White
ColinIsCool
Long Con
TonyStarkPrime
rabbit8
Iron_Dwarf
Kenway
Kites
Quin
lapluie
DrWilgy

your rainbows always have such a nice color gradient

thanks I'm very proud of them

[mention]Jackofhearts2005[/mention] does the mafia automatically get a nightkill?

Per this post from Epignosis here. Colin took a staunch opposition of Epignosis's strategy. Epignosis dissected his complaints and voted for him.

In a world where Epignosis is a civilian and Colin is mafia, why would Colin choose to oppose this?

You guys seriously posted 10 more pages in the last 4 hours??

Here we go...

rundontwalk wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 7:30 pm

colonialbob wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 7:27 pm I like that Epi post a lot.

Syndicateers, thoughts on the recent MacDougall/RDW interactions?

You didn't ask me but I'll give you my opinion anywayz.

Idk what MacDougall is doing. He won't respond, and the idea he could be buddying me crossed my mind.

This would require you being a civilian, no?

rundontwalk wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 6:38 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 6:36 pm @rundontwalk I do not think he is as likely to be scum now since he pointed out how his role works and how it would be hard to fake (though that still has to be proven). He was my top suspect, but I am backing off now for good reason.

Back in my day I faked being the most powerful town player as scum (town cop). Nothing is too difficult to fake.

I've seen you bite hard on WIFOM when you're scum. :3

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 7:49 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 7:48 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 7:46 pm Colin is a civ. Nutella is Mafia so knows it and is distancing from the lynch. It is known.

nah bro I legitimately don't get why he's suspicious. like what is the baddie motive for his argument here

"I think I found something that I can criticize and maybe mislynch."

It's a pretty ordinary motive. Colin doesn't know Epignosis.

If Colin is scum, someone on his team probably knows Epignosis.

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 7:52 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 7:48 pm nutella, why do you think Epi and Colin are both civilians?

because there's no baddie motive that makes sense for what either of them are doing. (and because I have town read both of them for other reasons)

I agree with the hazelnutspread.

Actually I disagree.

Epignosis could easily have impure reasons for his actions.

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 8:28 pm I'll admit my votes so far haven't been great choices, but they were reflective of my thoughts at the time I made them, and also my passive gives me a bit of a limitation there (which is also the reason I haven't put my vote on someone else yet despite not wanting my vote to be on tony anymore)

What is a "great choice" for a vote to you?

10 in a row? Why not!

sig wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 9:00 pm Epi and Collins is civ on civ

One of the supertown people is mafia no doubt

the other mafia are lurking

Rabbit's gone AWALL which is weird.

For my shots I'm tempting to start trimming off no posters thoughts?

What is weird about rabbit being AWOL?

I figure it's indicative of him being a civilian, in that he wouldn't bail on a mafia team like that, especially a mafia team that he would have hand-selected, or was hand-selected for.

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 2:30 am Jackofhearts2005 does the mafia automatically get a nightkill?

Yes. One of the Five Fingers must make the kill in place of their night action.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 9:21 pm A haiku:

What does salad mean
In this context, not real world
Someone help, I'm lost

And:

What does blending mean
No one told me the first time
Mafia is weird

I believe you've accessed the dayvig no?

[mention]Jackofhearts2005[/mention] need confirmation on this.'

Linki: Nooooooo you broke my combo! ;_;

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 1:50 am

Kenway wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 1:47 am Good grief. My eyes hurt.

VOTE: TONYSTARKPRIME

What is your reasoning for this vote?

He feels scummy. I could vote for Epignosis too, if he'll get lynched.

I operate on feels. Chakra, if you will, if you're feeling hipster.

sig wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 9:43 pm I see that's interesting

linki: Jay is being very aggressive., moreso then I remember?

Last time he was aggressive like this was in Mortal Kombat. He was Independent then.

But he's been provoked here, so I don't take anything from it.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 3:02 am @Marmot Dayvig? Mac didn't really daykill anyway if that's what you mean.

Tony wrote some poetry though.

dunya wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 10:54 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 10:50 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 10:48 pm My one-off power is a lynch switch.

I fully intend on using that today. I am going to decide who gets lynched if I don't see a lynch poll that I like. Colin is probably going to die. dunya maybe. I am here to burn out like a firework on the fourth of July. And I am drunk. And I will be drunk tomorrow. And I do you know what drunks with fireworks do? It isn't pretty.

If you lynch switch to dunya I will use my lynch switch to switch to you

are you still feeling guilty for the MK mislynch you and JJJ caused?

dunya wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 11:03 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 11:01 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 10:48 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 10:44 pm My decision is I might be lynching YOU. Your 300+ posts be damned.

Why?

You've auto-cleared her. She is the subject of tinfoil no matter what. I think that's bullshit.

so your reason for wanting to lynch me is because Jay defends me.



I know you're jelly of our special relationship Epi, but I can share Jay with you too.

I once drove Jay home from a very excellent party.

colonialbob wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 11:33 pm I am less suspicious of Colin now though. I don't believe his argument, but I believe he believes it. Starting to feel like a Town/Town argument.

[VOTE: rabbit8] aubergine

See reasons why you shouldn't vote for rabbit.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 11:36 pm People think I'm playing. You all are acting like your votes matter.

I am picking. Right now either Colin or dunya is dying. I'm open to somebody else.

There are 25 players in this game. Every one of them has a secret power.

You say have a lynch switch.

...

I'm calling your bluff. I'm keeping my vote on you.

Just don't switch the lynch to me Epignosis.

My FIREWORKS show is set to go off in about 12 hours.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 11:56 pm Let's lynch JJJ and dunya.

How many lynch switches do you have?

Reading from my role, I become a she if I become a Mage Knight?

Anyway, can't wait to get my secret powers. I bet I'll be able to zap people with impunity.

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 3:16 am

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 11:36 pm People think I'm playing. You all are acting like your votes matter.

I am picking. Right now either Colin or dunya is dying. I'm open to somebody else.

There are 25 players in this game. Every one of them has a secret power.

You say have a lynch switch.

...

I'm calling your bluff. I'm keeping my vote on you.

I don't get a secret power if I become a Sage.

Kenway wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 3:23 am I don't get a secret power if I become a Sage.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but you do have one now right?

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 3:27 am

Kenway wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 3:23 am I don't get a secret power if I become a Sage.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but you do have one now right?

Nope.

But... But... The rules!

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 07, 2018 11:29 am Special rules

2) In addition to their publicly listed class power(s), all players will start with a secret backstory and related power, generally a one shot or passive ability. Two players with the same class will never share the same backstory. The mafia has their own backstories that replace the townie ones but they will be told what their townie backstory would have been as a safeclaim.

Does that mean that the power is secret too, or just related?

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 3:39 am But... But... The rules!

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 07, 2018 11:29 am Special rules

2) In addition to their publicly listed class power(s), all players will start with a secret backstory and related power, generally a one shot or passive ability. Two players with the same class will never share the same backstory. The mafia has their own backstories that replace the townie ones but they will be told what their townie backstory would have been as a safeclaim.

Does that mean that the power is secret too, or just related?

Oh, that. Well, I have a backstory. I don't have a secret power. And no, I'm not calling the gamerunner a liar.

Kenway wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 4:11 am

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 3:39 am But... But... The rules!

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 07, 2018 11:29 am Special rules

2) In addition to their publicly listed class power(s), all players will start with a secret backstory and related power, generally a one shot or passive ability. Two players with the same class will never share the same backstory. The mafia has their own backstories that replace the townie ones but they will be told what their townie backstory would have been as a safeclaim.

Does that mean that the power is secret too, or just related?

Oh, that. Well, I have a backstory. I don't have a secret power. And no, I'm not calling the gamerunner a liar.

I concur with kenway. My backstory does afford me something but I hardly would call it a power.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 4:21 am

Kenway wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 4:11 am

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 3:39 am But... But... The rules!

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 07, 2018 11:29 am Special rules

2) In addition to their publicly listed class power(s), all players will start with a secret backstory and related power, generally a one shot or passive ability. Two players with the same class will never share the same backstory. The mafia has their own backstories that replace the townie ones but they will be told what their townie backstory would have been as a safeclaim.

Does that mean that the power is secret too, or just related?

Oh, that. Well, I have a backstory. I don't have a secret power. And no, I'm not calling the gamerunner a liar.

I concur with kenway. My backstory does afford me something but I hardly would call it a power.

Thirded. It's more of a flavor to my power than an entirely new power.