The Syndicate

Posted: **Mon Jan 14, 2019 8:58 pm**

sprityo wrote: ↑Mon Jan 14, 2019 8:43 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Jan 14, 2019 8:31 pm
sprityo wrote: ↑Mon Jan 14, 2019 7:11 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Jan 14, 2019 4:05 pm

Shang Tsung

As the sorcerer of Outworld, you have brought forth the souls of ancient kings and spirits to enslave Earthrealm. Your sorcery enables you to absorb the soul of whomever your team kills, and for the next phase, you will have that individual’s power at your disposal. As long as you are alive, the identity of your victim is shrouded in mystery.
That's DH's role... sorry for the sudden interjection, but what about the orange-highlighted part?

I've been operating under the assumption that DH killed Mac and then used his power on me (the 'wounding' resulting in two extra votes).

BUT if DH killed Mac, then Mac's identity should have been 'shrouded in mystery'.

If Mac's identity was made clear, then Shang Tsung did not kill Mac.

But Mac's power was (presumably) used on me after he died.

Was Dharmahelper really Shang Tsung? Did someone other than Shang Tsung kill Mac, and thus the wounding of me was from some other source? I must be missing something here... or maybe Epi just forgot to shroud Mac in mystery?

I don’t think roles have exactly the same night powers, same thing in last years GOC if you check
That role was quoted from Dharmahelper's death post in this game.
oh. weird then. I swear i only remembered the stealing powers part.

that just simply means DH didnt perform the mafia kill

Well, that makes no sense. Come on, dude.

1. If what you think that means were true, then how would I have been wounded?

2. "Your sorcery enables you to absorb the soul of whomever your team kills"

Posted: **Mon Jan 14, 2019 9:07 pm**

Have we discussed why Speed isn’t a bigger suspect for his late-day-DH-lynch stuff toward Long Con when Long Con had extra votes on him?

Posted: **Mon Jan 14, 2019 9:10 pm**

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Mon Jan 14, 2019 9:07 pm Have we discussed why Speed isn’t a bigger suspect for his late-day-DH-lynch stuff toward Long Con when Long Con had extra votes on him?

there has been some dabbling and dipping of the toes. why don’t you give us the cannonball?

Posted: **Mon Jan 14, 2019 9:30 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Jan 14, 2019 9:10 pm
ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Mon Jan 14, 2019 9:07 pm Have we discussed why Speed isn’t a bigger suspect for his late-day-DH-lynch stuff toward Long Con when Long Con had extra votes on him?
there has been some dabbling and dipping of the toes. why don’t you give us the cannonball?

I glanced over my big post and realized I have very few people to assign civ credit to, but it is curious that Speed didn’t support either lynch of mafia teammates and instead wanted to go after a guy who had been targeted (by the mafia?).

Posted: **Mon Jan 14, 2019 9:51 pm**

juliets wrote: ↑Mon Jan 14, 2019 8:46 pm
sprityo wrote: ↑Mon Jan 14, 2019 8:42 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Mon Jan 14, 2019 7:37 pm
sprityo wrote: ↑Mon Jan 14, 2019 7:14 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Mon Jan 14, 2019 6:54 pm @sprityo can you explain why you voted for Colin? Someone asked already I think but I don't see an answer in your ISO>
His voting choices coincided with information I have
Huh?? So you have reason to think Colin is bad?
a reasonable assumption, yes
So is your reason the same kind of thing as your reason Luna was civ? Or is it something different? Anything you can share is appreciated.

yes and no

like i said, living through tonight gives me one more way to screw over mafia

Posted: **Mon Jan 14, 2019 9:52 pm**

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Jan 14, 2019 8:58 pm
sprityo wrote: ↑Mon Jan 14, 2019 8:43 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Jan 14, 2019 8:31 pm
sprityo wrote: ↑Mon Jan 14, 2019 7:11 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Jan 14, 2019 4:05 pm

Shang Tsung

As the sorcerer of Outworld, you have brought forth the souls of ancient kings and spirits to enslave Earthrealm. Your sorcery enables you to absorb the soul of whomever your team kills, and for the next phase, you will have that individual’s power at your disposal. As long as you are alive, the identity of your victim is shrouded in mystery.
That's DH's role... sorry for the sudden interjection, but what about the orange-highlighted part?

I've been operating under the assumption that DH killed Mac and then used his power on me (the 'wounding' resulting in two extra votes).

BUT if DH killed Mac, then Mac's identity should have been 'shrouded in mystery'.

If Mac's identity was made clear, then Shang Tsung did not kill Mac.

But Mac's power was (presumably) used on me after he died.

Was Dharmahelper really Shang Tsung? Did someone other than Shang Tsung kill Mac, and thus the wounding of me was from some other source? I must be missing something here... or maybe Epi just forgot to shroud Mac in mystery?

I don’t think roles have exactly the same night powers, same thing in last years GOC if you check
That role was quoted from Dharmahelper's death post in this game.
oh. weird then. I swear i only remembered the stealing powers part.

that just simply means DH didnt perform the mafia kill
Well, that makes no sense. Come on, dude.

1. If what you think that means were true, then how would I have been wounded?

2. "Your sorcery enables you to absorb the soul of whomever your team kills"

yeah
TEAM KILLS

his team killed mac

his power still works

but the janitor part didnt because DH himself didnt make the kill

Posted: **Mon Jan 14, 2019 9:58 pm**

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Jan 10, 2019 1:03 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Jan 04, 2019 10:58 am
Quin wrote: ↑Fri Jan 04, 2019 10:11 am
Quin wrote: ↑Thu Jan 03, 2019 7:29 pm My precious...
i should clarify i'm not actually insanified or anything i just wanted the attention
You mean you got the Ring, right?
Pretty much the only Quin interaction on D1 is this convresation. LC's reason for voting Quin over cBob was "Quin was pleading for his life and invoking GenuQuin, bob was not" which is... both fair and a total wash.

There's a lot of FYI in LC's posts. Some fluff. Again looking at D1, not cursed D2.
D3, LC seems opportunistic. He jumps on Luna for her D1 vote when it was pointed out, which seems like civ hypocrisy, but then he jumps right back off when cBob points out Quin's d2 vote. That undid any goodwill the hypocrisy might have had, like he was just doing what was expected.

It feels like Long Con isn't forging his own path, which he usually does. I haven't seen LC latch onto something that moves the thread, not on his own initiative. Feels blendy, followy. Present, but not a presence.

That's the gut feeling I have. Someone engage with it.

There is some capacity for this to be the sort of opportunistic nudge at LC that I think you are suggesting, Colin. It’s a bit laborious; and particularly that “not forging his own path” paragraph reads rather awkwardly. There is effort in the wording that makes it sound like subtle propaganda

Posted: **Mon Jan 14, 2019 10:03 pm**

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Mon Jan 14, 2019 9:07 pm Have we discussed why Speed isn’t a bigger suspect for his late-day-DH-lynch stuff toward Long Con when Long Con had extra votes on him?

I don't think I pursued anything once I found out about the wound and such. Unsure what the timeline was with the forced votes, but I can't imagine I had noticed that either. Doesn't seem like something I would do.

You guys can handle that research though.

Posted: **Mon Jan 14, 2019 10:06 pm**

I'll answer any questions you have.

Posted: **Mon Jan 14, 2019 10:13 pm**

Take sig out of your town locks people

Posted: **Mon Jan 14, 2019 10:19 pm**

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Mon Jan 14, 2019 10:13 pm Take sig out of your town locks people

Lock? Did somebody say lock?

Yes, it's lock time.

Posted: **Mon Jan 14, 2019 10:51 pm**

Night 4: Paint it Black

BOB was gone. The Red Room had been painted black.

Meanwhile

Another killer lurked, looking for an easy mark.

He found one, because the guy had been dead over two thousand years and didn’t move very fast.

JaggedJimmyJay has been assassinated.

Spoiler: show

It is now Day 5. You have 48 hours to lynch someone.

Posted: **Mon Jan 14, 2019 10:53 pm**

hahaha holy shit

Posted: **Mon Jan 14, 2019 10:54 pm**

someone's doing a really good job

Posted: **Mon Jan 14, 2019 10:54 pm**

Posted: **Mon Jan 14, 2019 10:56 pm**

were there any games with assassins during 2018 other than ass class? what's the deal?

this is the second time we've had an assassination instead of a mafia kill, or at least an assassination and no mafia kill

Posted: **Mon Jan 14, 2019 10:56 pm**

My gut was right! Does this happen (a mafia member being killed at night) because of a redirect?

Posted: **Mon Jan 14, 2019 10:57 pm**

lynch poll is a little smaller than usual, huh

Posted: **Mon Jan 14, 2019 10:57 pm**

Both Mafias were killed on even nights. Food for thoughts

Posted: **Mon Jan 14, 2019 10:59 pm**

SK with an alternating kill shared with the Mafia?

Posted: **Mon Jan 14, 2019 10:59 pm**

assassinations have been on the even nights. :\ maybe it's an alternating thing and the mafia only kills on odds, meaning there's someone else assassinating on even nights? could that be it

Posted: **Mon Jan 14, 2019 11:01 pm**

Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Jan 14, 2019 10:59 pm assassinations have been on the even nights. :\ maybe it's an alternating thing and the mafia only kills on odds, meaning there's someone else assassinating on even nights? could that be it

could be. but do you think one person would have that much power?

Posted: **Mon Jan 14, 2019 11:02 pm**

what do we even do with that information?

Posted: **Mon Jan 14, 2019 11:02 pm**

[mention]Epignosis[/mention] would we be notified if a faction (the mafia) is eliminated?

Posted: **Mon Jan 14, 2019 11:03 pm**

maybe it is a second btsc team of assassinators...civ alligned

Posted: **Mon Jan 14, 2019 11:03 pm**

You will be notified if you win.

Posted: **Mon Jan 14, 2019 11:04 pm**

Elohcin wrote: ↑Mon Jan 14, 2019 11:01 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Jan 14, 2019 10:59 pm assassinations have been on the even nights. :\ maybe it's an alternating thing and the mafia only kills on odds, meaning there's someone else assassinating on even nights? could that be it
could be. but do you think one person would have that much power?

A serial would

Posted: **Mon Jan 14, 2019 11:06 pm**

This is an absolute slaughter.

Posted: **Mon Jan 14, 2019 11:07 pm**

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Mon Jan 14, 2019 11:04 pm
Elohcin wrote: ↑Mon Jan 14, 2019 11:01 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Jan 14, 2019 10:59 pm assassinations have been on the even nights. :\ maybe it's an alternating thing and the mafia only kills on odds, meaning there's someone else assassinating on even nights? could that be it
could be. but do you think one person would have that much power?
A serial would

okay. And does that make them an independent?

Posted: **Mon Jan 14, 2019 11:08 pm**

Hot dang

Posted: **Mon Jan 14, 2019 11:08 pm**

Elohcin wrote: ↑Mon Jan 14, 2019 11:01 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Jan 14, 2019 10:59 pm assassinations have been on the even nights. :\ maybe it's an alternating thing and the mafia only kills on odds, meaning there's someone else assassinating on even nights? could that be it
could be. but do you think one person would have that much power?

if it's kind of a serial killer deal then maybe? it'd be kind of oddly balanced. the assassin's kills have been town aligned so far, and given the fact that they chose to kill jay last night as opposed to basically anyone else, i'm guessing that's not an accident but...? a game design where an independent who trades off killing nights with the mafia would cripple the mafia pretty badly, especially if the assassin has no reason not to help civs?

could it be something else? could there be a granny role, that the mafia tried to kill on night 2 and then again on night 4?

Posted: **Mon Jan 14, 2019 11:09 pm**

No reason to Lynch Kylemii today IMO.

Let's have a Cpi brawl, [mention]sprityo[/mention]

Posted: **Mon Jan 14, 2019 11:09 pm**

Elohcin wrote: ↑Mon Jan 14, 2019 11:07 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Mon Jan 14, 2019 11:04 pm
Elohcin wrote: ↑Mon Jan 14, 2019 11:01 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Jan 14, 2019 10:59 pm assassinations have been on the even nights. :\ maybe it's an alternating thing and the mafia only kills on odds, meaning there's someone else assassinating on even nights? could that be it
could be. but do you think one person would have that much power?
A serial would
okay. And does that make them an independent?

Yeah

Posted: **Mon Jan 14, 2019 11:10 pm**

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Jan 14, 2019 11:06 pm This is an absolute slaughter.

2 civvies dead, and it's D5. Is that a record?

Posted: **Mon Jan 14, 2019 11:11 pm**

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Jan 14, 2019 11:03 pm You will be notified if you win.

but not if a faction is eliminated?

Posted: **Mon Jan 14, 2019 11:12 pm**

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Mon Jan 14, 2019 11:10 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Jan 14, 2019 11:06 pm This is an absolute slaughter.
2 civvies dead, and it's D5. Is that a record?

DFS mafia tho

Posted: **Mon Jan 14, 2019 11:17 pm**

Holy shit

Posted: **Mon Jan 14, 2019 11:18 pm**

This feels too good to be true.

Posted: **Mon Jan 14, 2019 11:19 pm**

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Jan 14, 2019 11:09 pm No reason to Lynch Kylemii today IMO.

Let's have a Cpi brawl, sprityo

Nani?

I'll win this matchup no matter what

my pants ripping skills are off the charts

Posted: **Mon Jan 14, 2019 11:20 pm**

at this point im starting to question if we all just flip mafia

Posted: **Mon Jan 14, 2019 11:21 pm**

...... :0

Posted: **Mon Jan 14, 2019 11:21 pm**

Speed you will get my vote for now

I welcome death with open arms, that way you may learn of my secrets

Posted: **Mon Jan 14, 2019 11:22 pm**

sloonei and macdougall flipped civ

Posted: **Mon Jan 14, 2019 11:23 pm**

We can do this the ole fashion way too

role claim and see who gets dunked

(but i mean that's a lot less fun)

linki: I KNOW THAT KYLE

Posted: **Mon Jan 14, 2019 11:25 pm**

My gut right now says vote speed > Kyle > sprit but these is some good choices. Mm mm yummy

Posted: **Mon Jan 14, 2019 11:25 pm**

aside from our fun little three man stint here

this is someone's role power probably?

that means either someone thought we were the top 3 suspects and should be debated on being lynched

or perhaps it's related to the night kill? an unblockable kill maybe that forces you into a standoff? or if you survive the lynch you achieve your win con or get invincibility for a phase?

who knows

Posted: **Mon Jan 14, 2019 11:26 pm**

sprityo wrote: ↑Mon Jan 14, 2019 11:23 pmlinki: I KNOW THAT KYLE

no i'm just freaking out though, what if this is a prank game? it doesn't say anywhere what our win condition is

Posted: **Mon Jan 14, 2019 11:27 pm**

i mean it probably isn't, that seems like a thing it probably wouldn't be

Posted: **Mon Jan 14, 2019 11:28 pm**

I mean, I know I’m not mafia so if you lynch me I should flip civ. But then again, I can’t die today anyway.

Posted: **Mon Jan 14, 2019 11:31 pm**

Alright, so from what I can assume. This isnt a mafia power

that being said i've been operating under the assumption of one mafia team this whole game. Is that really the case though?

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