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Re: Grasslands [Game Thread]

Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2020 9:33 pm
by Sloonei
tutuu wrote: Mon Oct 19, 2020 9:32 pm if ur town i think town loses 99.99% of the time. trust me i study math
That is worrying.

Re: Grasslands [Game Thread]

Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2020 9:33 pm
by tutuu
Sloonei wrote: Mon Oct 19, 2020 9:32 pm
tutuu wrote: Mon Oct 19, 2020 9:31 pm if u rly are town slooney looney then we are in for a world of hurt
Let's exist in a world where I am town for a little bit. Who doesn't fit in our nice little grassy town?
i would look at the nk first since id have no idea

but could be anyone (except me and nutella)

Re: Grasslands [Game Thread]

Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2020 9:34 pm
by tutuu
now im paranoid jay was killed so sloonei would be misyeeted lol fuck

but

u guys are way more invested in the game

im glad i didnt defend lc even tho i townread him

so like i shouldnt get in the way

Re: Grasslands [Game Thread]

Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2020 9:35 pm
by tutuu
maybe kill alison if sloonei is town

Re: Grasslands [Game Thread]

Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2020 9:37 pm
by Sloonei
tutuu have you ever done a trustfall? They're the funnest exercise around. Just ask anyone. Would you like to do one now?

Re: Grasslands [Game Thread]

Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2020 9:38 pm
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
The game probably still isn’t that hard if sloonei is town, I think our POE is pretty good tbh


The only thing that makes the game hard is if nutes is mafia or if SPF/Hally are the team. If neither of those are the case I think we win this through straight POE 9/10 times

Re: Grasslands [Game Thread]

Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2020 9:39 pm
by tutuu
Sloonei wrote: Mon Oct 19, 2020 9:37 pm tutuu have you ever done a trustfall? They're the funnest exercise around. Just ask anyone. Would you like to do one now?
whats that?

Re: Grasslands [Game Thread]

Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2020 9:41 pm
by Sloonei
tutuu wrote: Mon Oct 19, 2020 9:39 pm
Sloonei wrote: Mon Oct 19, 2020 9:37 pm tutuu have you ever done a trustfall? They're the funnest exercise around. Just ask anyone. Would you like to do one now?
whats that?
List a reason to townread everybody in the game.

Then identify which players were the hardest/easiest to come up with reasons for.

Re: Grasslands [Game Thread]

Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2020 9:47 pm
by tutuu
Sloonei wrote: Mon Oct 19, 2020 9:41 pm
tutuu wrote: Mon Oct 19, 2020 9:39 pm
Sloonei wrote: Mon Oct 19, 2020 9:37 pm tutuu have you ever done a trustfall? They're the funnest exercise around. Just ask anyone. Would you like to do one now?
whats that?
List a reason to townread everybody in the game.

Then identify which players were the hardest/easiest to come up with reasons for.
ok cool

hally - is posting a lot, is assertive
nanook - his weird mech plans things, had a fight with nut
sloonei - he calls me tooty
spf - did the im going to bed towntell, posts a lot
thunal - posts a lot, is apparently consensus townread for reasons i dont know cuz ppl wall post too much. hope theyre right
nutella - not even gonna list them its obv
martin - posts a lot, is ... getting townread by a bunch of ppl? (im listing this as a reason for me to tr him)
alison - if shes scum maybe she wouldnt be next in line in the poe after sloonei (unless im next in line. uh oh)

i dont like this game slooney looney

lol @ posts a lot. but thats what my brain told me so im sending it over to u guys

Re: Grasslands [Game Thread]

Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2020 9:50 pm
by tutuu
man can i like. not post anymore for day 3. pretty please? just feels like a chore. imma nap nap. sleep sleep. chill chill

Re: Grasslands [Game Thread]

Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2020 9:54 pm
by Hally
i honestly think we should eliminate alison today over sloonei

nova and jay both sussed alison and were more pro-sloonei than most others (and yes, i know jay had sloonei in his poe but he still defended sloonei a fair bit and resisted what he thought was undue pressure on him). if nova and jay were here they would be pushing alison over sloonei. they aren’t here because mafia didn’t want them here, and we should keep that in mind

another reason i don’t think mafia!sloonei would kill jay because there was quite a bit of speculation about a sloonei/jay w/w world. if sloonei is mafia he is killing someone that 1) would have helped him survive this day by pushing alison and 2) could have been eliminated after a scum!sloonei flip because he would have looked bad. sloonei would be shooting himself in the foot making that kill

meanwhile, nutella, who should have been the most lock cleared person out of anyone N2 pending an lc scum flip, is still alive over jay. nut has been the most anti-sloonei person from the start and pro-alison. mafia left her alive for a reason, and i think it’s because they want her to keep tunneling sloonei

sloonei doesn’t make these kills. they’re incredibly suboptimal for him and it doesn’t make sense when he could just kill nut instead

let’s trust in our dead teammates and kill alison

Re: Grasslands [Game Thread]

Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2020 9:58 pm
by Thunal33
Sloonei wrote: Mon Oct 19, 2020 9:33 pm
tutuu wrote: Mon Oct 19, 2020 9:32 pm if ur town i think town loses 99.99% of the time. trust me i study math
That is worrying.
In a world where you're town I might start to reconsider Alison, and maybe entertain a Tutuu/Alison team. I'd also probably tinfoil everyone in the game since if you're town I would definitely be fooled by someone.

Re: Grasslands [Game Thread]

Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2020 9:59 pm
by tutuu
damn thats convincing. i regret voting so fast now lol. ok i will be here for eod then to help with the votes and stuff if needed, whatever. will try to find the optimal sheeping strat

Re: Grasslands [Game Thread]

Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2020 10:01 pm
by Sloonei
Hally wrote: Mon Oct 19, 2020 9:54 pm i honestly think we should eliminate alison today over sloonei

nova and jay both sussed alison and were more pro-sloonei than most others (and yes, i know jay had sloonei in his poe but he still defended sloonei a fair bit and resisted what he thought was undue pressure on him). if nova and jay were here they would be pushing alison over sloonei. they aren’t here because mafia didn’t want them here, and we should keep that in mind

another reason i don’t think mafia!sloonei would kill jay because there was quite a bit of speculation about a sloonei/jay w/w world. if sloonei is mafia he is killing someone that 1) would have helped him survive this day by pushing alison and 2) could have been eliminated after a scum!sloonei flip because he would have looked bad. sloonei would be shooting himself in the foot making that kill

meanwhile, nutella, who should have been the most lock cleared person out of anyone N2 pending an lc scum flip, is still alive over jay. nut has been the most anti-sloonei person from the start and pro-alison. mafia left her alive for a reason, and i think it’s because they want her to keep tunneling sloonei

sloonei doesn’t make these kills. they’re incredibly suboptimal for him and it doesn’t make sense when he could just kill nut instead

let’s trust in our dead teammates and kill alison
Who is Alison's partner?

Re: Grasslands [Game Thread]

Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2020 10:03 pm
by Thunal33
Hally wrote: Mon Oct 19, 2020 9:54 pm another reason i don’t think mafia!sloonei would kill jay because there was quite a bit of speculation about a sloonei/jay w/w world. if sloonei is mafia he is killing someone that 1) would have helped him survive this day by pushing alison and 2) could have been eliminated after a scum!sloonei flip because he would have looked bad. sloonei would be shooting himself in the foot making that kill
The speculation about Sloonei/Jay was pretty early on and disappeared quickly, and Jay was a consensus townread by the end of N2. Sloonei could easily have been afraid of JJJ pushing him further since he was trending down for JJJ. Your assumption 2 I think is incorrect since he wouldn't actually have looked bad since he had Sloonei in his PoE. Plus JJJ isn't exactly an easy person to elim. Do you have any reason to think Sloonei's town besides NKA?

Re: Grasslands [Game Thread]

Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2020 10:05 pm
by Thunal33
Hally wrote: Mon Oct 19, 2020 9:54 pm nova and jay both sussed alison and were more pro-sloonei than most others (and yes, i know jay had sloonei in his poe but he still defended sloonei a fair bit and resisted what he thought was undue pressure on him). if nova and jay were here they would be pushing alison over sloonei. they aren’t here because mafia didn’t want them here, and we should keep that in mind
Also, I kind of accepted that Nova was NKed for being a consensus townread and for their take on LC.

Re: Grasslands [Game Thread]

Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2020 10:08 pm
by Sloonei
In the Champs Finale, the game-winning move was Arete's fake joat claim, because they also claimed to have a green check on the consensus top suspect at the time (who was town). It forced us to break out of our collective tunnel and start focusing on suspects who had been mistakenly cleared. It helped us catch the "deepwolf" sooner than we otherwise probably would have.

There is nothing in this game that can mechanically clear me. But if we are indeed in a state where I am the consensus top suspect and people think the game is hinging on that, I urge everyone to look outside that hypothetical gamestate. What does the game look like when I am town?

Re: Grasslands [Game Thread]

Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2020 10:19 pm
by Thunal33
Sloonei wrote: Mon Oct 19, 2020 10:08 pm In the Champs Finale, the game-winning move was Arete's fake joat claim, because they also claimed to have a green check on the consensus top suspect at the time (who was town). It forced us to break out of our collective tunnel and start focusing on suspects who had been mistakenly cleared. It helped us catch the "deepwolf" sooner than we otherwise probably would have.

There is nothing in this game that can mechanically clear me. But if we are indeed in a state where I am the consensus top suspect and people think the game is hinging on that, I urge everyone to look outside that hypothetical gamestate. What does the game look like when I am town?
It looks confusing and I'm guessing the wolves would be exactly the people we never would have guessed are wolves. (Just because this is what happened last game I played). SPF is someone I'd look at more closely in that scenario since there's no hard evidence or interactions clearing her, she just seems town based on weaker tone/mindmeld/effort reads. Her tone looks really pure but she's my most suspicious out of the consensus townreads because there really isn't anything to clear her.

Re: Grasslands [Game Thread]

Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2020 10:23 pm
by Thunal33
Thunal33 wrote: Mon Oct 19, 2020 10:19 pm
Sloonei wrote: Mon Oct 19, 2020 10:08 pm In the Champs Finale, the game-winning move was Arete's fake joat claim, because they also claimed to have a green check on the consensus top suspect at the time (who was town). It forced us to break out of our collective tunnel and start focusing on suspects who had been mistakenly cleared. It helped us catch the "deepwolf" sooner than we otherwise probably would have.

There is nothing in this game that can mechanically clear me. But if we are indeed in a state where I am the consensus top suspect and people think the game is hinging on that, I urge everyone to look outside that hypothetical gamestate. What does the game look like when I am town?
It looks confusing and I'm guessing the wolves would be exactly the people we never would have guessed are wolves. (Just because this is what happened last game I played). SPF is someone I'd look at more closely in that scenario since there's no hard evidence or interactions clearing her, she just seems town based on weaker tone/mindmeld/effort reads. Her tone looks really pure but she's my most suspicious out of the consensus townreads because there really isn't anything to clear her.
I know I just said I would reconsider Alison, but in the case where you're town I feel like just eliminating the next person in the PoE isn't the right move since the wolves would be pretty deep in that scenario. I also don't really think Alison makes sense as scum (especially since she's hard townreading Martin and pushed me really hard, I don't think her reads make sense from a scum POV and would box her in if you're town).

Re: Grasslands [Game Thread]

Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2020 10:25 pm
by Sloonei
Thunal33 wrote: Mon Oct 19, 2020 10:19 pm
Sloonei wrote: Mon Oct 19, 2020 10:08 pm In the Champs Finale, the game-winning move was Arete's fake joat claim, because they also claimed to have a green check on the consensus top suspect at the time (who was town). It forced us to break out of our collective tunnel and start focusing on suspects who had been mistakenly cleared. It helped us catch the "deepwolf" sooner than we otherwise probably would have.

There is nothing in this game that can mechanically clear me. But if we are indeed in a state where I am the consensus top suspect and people think the game is hinging on that, I urge everyone to look outside that hypothetical gamestate. What does the game look like when I am town?
It looks confusing and I'm guessing the wolves would be exactly the people we never would have guessed are wolves. (Just because this is what happened last game I played). SPF is someone I'd look at more closely in that scenario since there's no hard evidence or interactions clearing her, she just seems town based on weaker tone/mindmeld/effort reads. Her tone looks really pure but she's my most suspicious out of the consensus townreads because there really isn't anything to clear her.
Have you looked at her interactions with LC?

Re: Grasslands [Game Thread]

Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2020 10:27 pm
by Sloonei
Thunal33 wrote: Mon Oct 19, 2020 10:23 pm
Thunal33 wrote: Mon Oct 19, 2020 10:19 pm
Sloonei wrote: Mon Oct 19, 2020 10:08 pm In the Champs Finale, the game-winning move was Arete's fake joat claim, because they also claimed to have a green check on the consensus top suspect at the time (who was town). It forced us to break out of our collective tunnel and start focusing on suspects who had been mistakenly cleared. It helped us catch the "deepwolf" sooner than we otherwise probably would have.

There is nothing in this game that can mechanically clear me. But if we are indeed in a state where I am the consensus top suspect and people think the game is hinging on that, I urge everyone to look outside that hypothetical gamestate. What does the game look like when I am town?
It looks confusing and I'm guessing the wolves would be exactly the people we never would have guessed are wolves. (Just because this is what happened last game I played). SPF is someone I'd look at more closely in that scenario since there's no hard evidence or interactions clearing her, she just seems town based on weaker tone/mindmeld/effort reads. Her tone looks really pure but she's my most suspicious out of the consensus townreads because there really isn't anything to clear her.
I know I just said I would reconsider Alison, but in the case where you're town I feel like just eliminating the next person in the PoE isn't the right move since the wolves would be pretty deep in that scenario. I also don't really think Alison makes sense as scum (especially since she's hard townreading Martin and pushed me really hard, I don't think her reads make sense from a scum POV and would box her in if you're town).
Why must there be two deep wolves if I am town?

Re: Grasslands [Game Thread]

Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2020 10:29 pm
by Thunal33
Sloonei wrote: Mon Oct 19, 2020 10:25 pm
Thunal33 wrote: Mon Oct 19, 2020 10:19 pm
Sloonei wrote: Mon Oct 19, 2020 10:08 pm In the Champs Finale, the game-winning move was Arete's fake joat claim, because they also claimed to have a green check on the consensus top suspect at the time (who was town). It forced us to break out of our collective tunnel and start focusing on suspects who had been mistakenly cleared. It helped us catch the "deepwolf" sooner than we otherwise probably would have.

There is nothing in this game that can mechanically clear me. But if we are indeed in a state where I am the consensus top suspect and people think the game is hinging on that, I urge everyone to look outside that hypothetical gamestate. What does the game look like when I am town?
It looks confusing and I'm guessing the wolves would be exactly the people we never would have guessed are wolves. (Just because this is what happened last game I played). SPF is someone I'd look at more closely in that scenario since there's no hard evidence or interactions clearing her, she just seems town based on weaker tone/mindmeld/effort reads. Her tone looks really pure but she's my most suspicious out of the consensus townreads because there really isn't anything to clear her.
Have you looked at her interactions with LC?
A little bit, LC hard townread her and called her his battle partner, and SPF called LC likely town a few times. I'm going to bed so I won't get the actual quotes or get more in depth until tomorrow. I'm not exactly scumreading SPF I just think that if there's a deepwolf, it's her. An SPF wolf scenario (and I don't think it necessarily means SPF/Hally, a W/T mindmeld is absolutely possible and I've seen it happen) would become more likely if you're town.

Re: Grasslands [Game Thread]

Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2020 10:29 pm
by Thunal33
Sloonei wrote: Mon Oct 19, 2020 10:27 pm
Thunal33 wrote: Mon Oct 19, 2020 10:23 pm
Thunal33 wrote: Mon Oct 19, 2020 10:19 pm
Sloonei wrote: Mon Oct 19, 2020 10:08 pm In the Champs Finale, the game-winning move was Arete's fake joat claim, because they also claimed to have a green check on the consensus top suspect at the time (who was town). It forced us to break out of our collective tunnel and start focusing on suspects who had been mistakenly cleared. It helped us catch the "deepwolf" sooner than we otherwise probably would have.

There is nothing in this game that can mechanically clear me. But if we are indeed in a state where I am the consensus top suspect and people think the game is hinging on that, I urge everyone to look outside that hypothetical gamestate. What does the game look like when I am town?
It looks confusing and I'm guessing the wolves would be exactly the people we never would have guessed are wolves. (Just because this is what happened last game I played). SPF is someone I'd look at more closely in that scenario since there's no hard evidence or interactions clearing her, she just seems town based on weaker tone/mindmeld/effort reads. Her tone looks really pure but she's my most suspicious out of the consensus townreads because there really isn't anything to clear her.
I know I just said I would reconsider Alison, but in the case where you're town I feel like just eliminating the next person in the PoE isn't the right move since the wolves would be pretty deep in that scenario. I also don't really think Alison makes sense as scum (especially since she's hard townreading Martin and pushed me really hard, I don't think her reads make sense from a scum POV and would box her in if you're town).
Why must there be two deep wolves if I am town?
If it's not two deepwolves it's at least one of Alison/Martin and I townread them both.

Re: Grasslands [Game Thread]

Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2020 10:30 pm
by Hally
fwiw lc and spf had a lot of interaction in the grasslands chat that is worth looking at and i think reflects well on her

Re: Grasslands [Game Thread]

Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2020 10:32 pm
by nutella
Thunal33 wrote: Mon Oct 19, 2020 10:29 pm
Sloonei wrote: Mon Oct 19, 2020 10:25 pm
Thunal33 wrote: Mon Oct 19, 2020 10:19 pm
Sloonei wrote: Mon Oct 19, 2020 10:08 pm In the Champs Finale, the game-winning move was Arete's fake joat claim, because they also claimed to have a green check on the consensus top suspect at the time (who was town). It forced us to break out of our collective tunnel and start focusing on suspects who had been mistakenly cleared. It helped us catch the "deepwolf" sooner than we otherwise probably would have.

There is nothing in this game that can mechanically clear me. But if we are indeed in a state where I am the consensus top suspect and people think the game is hinging on that, I urge everyone to look outside that hypothetical gamestate. What does the game look like when I am town?
It looks confusing and I'm guessing the wolves would be exactly the people we never would have guessed are wolves. (Just because this is what happened last game I played). SPF is someone I'd look at more closely in that scenario since there's no hard evidence or interactions clearing her, she just seems town based on weaker tone/mindmeld/effort reads. Her tone looks really pure but she's my most suspicious out of the consensus townreads because there really isn't anything to clear her.
Have you looked at her interactions with LC?
A little bit, LC hard townread her and called her his battle partner, and SPF called LC likely town a few times. I'm going to bed so I won't get the actual quotes or get more in depth until tomorrow. I'm not exactly scumreading SPF I just think that if there's a deepwolf, it's her. An SPF wolf scenario (and I don't think it necessarily means SPF/Hally, a W/T mindmeld is absolutely possible and I've seen it happen) would become more likely if you're town.
I agree with this in general

Re: Grasslands [Game Thread]

Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2020 10:32 pm
by Sloonei
Hally wrote: Mon Oct 19, 2020 10:30 pm fwiw lc and spf had a lot of interaction in the grasslands chat that is worth looking at and i think reflects well on her
wanna link that here so everyone has it on hand?

Re: Grasslands [Game Thread]

Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2020 10:35 pm
by nutella
Hally wrote: Mon Oct 19, 2020 10:30 pm fwiw lc and spf had a lot of interaction in the grasslands chat that is worth looking at and i think reflects well on her
I think it's a decent look but not clearing

Re: Grasslands [Game Thread]

Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2020 10:35 pm
by Hally
guys i know nk’s are wifomy and stuff but in a situation like this where the obvious nk (nut) doesn’t die, we really really should consider that her reads are incorrect and that jay’s were better

and again, jay could easily have been eliminated off a scum!sloonei flip. sloonei does not take away a future miselimination like that instead of nk’ing the lock clear villager who is also tunneling him

please, let’s try to put the game in perspective and set aside our own reads a bit. i think it’s the right thing to do here

Re: Grasslands [Game Thread]

Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2020 10:36 pm
by Thunal33
nutella wrote: Mon Oct 19, 2020 10:35 pm
Hally wrote: Mon Oct 19, 2020 10:30 pm fwiw lc and spf had a lot of interaction in the grasslands chat that is worth looking at and i think reflects well on her
I think it's a decent look but not clearing
That's how I feel as well. I get the feeling that LC and SPF are both very competent players and are capable of wolf theater.

Re: Grasslands [Game Thread]

Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2020 10:37 pm
by Thunal33
Hally wrote: Mon Oct 19, 2020 10:35 pm guys i know nk’s are wifomy and stuff but in a situation like this where the obvious nk (nut) doesn’t die, we really really should consider that her reads are incorrect and that jay’s were better

and again, jay could easily have been eliminated off a scum!sloonei flip. sloonei does not take away a future miselimination like that instead of nk’ing the lock clear villager who is also tunneling him

please, let’s try to put the game in perspective and set aside our own reads a bit. i think it’s the right thing to do here
Sloonei does look significantly better for staying calm yet asking everyone to consider worlds where he's town. I'm not confident he's scum anymore (I mean I wasn't really confident before but now I'm even less confident).

Re: Grasslands [Game Thread]

Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2020 10:37 pm
by Hally
tutuu wrote: Sun Oct 18, 2020 5:10 pm https://www.quicktopic.com/53/H/jUskGwbqFiLe our quick topic

Re: Grasslands [Game Thread]

Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2020 10:37 pm
by Sloonei
one time i killed jay night 1 and felt stupid about it, and ever since then i've wanted to carry him to endgame as scum just for fun.

Re: Grasslands [Game Thread]

Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2020 10:38 pm
by Hally
nutella wrote: Mon Oct 19, 2020 10:35 pm
Hally wrote: Mon Oct 19, 2020 10:30 pm fwiw lc and spf had a lot of interaction in the grasslands chat that is worth looking at and i think reflects well on her
I think it's a decent look but not clearing
wasn’t meaning say it’s clearing, especially not since lc was dead already, but it should at least be part of the conversation

Re: Grasslands [Game Thread]

Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2020 10:43 pm
by Hally
for what reason does sloonei kill jay over nut? does anyone have a reason? because mafia did that, and if sloonei = mafia HE did that. why would he do that? i really don’t think he would

Re: Grasslands [Game Thread]

Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2020 10:44 pm
by Sloonei
Hally wrote: Mon Oct 19, 2020 10:37 pm
tutuu wrote: Sun Oct 18, 2020 5:10 pm https://www.quicktopic.com/53/H/jUskGwbqFiLe our quick topic
thanks.

I'd agree that this looks good for spf, but I wouldn't put it past LC (and probably SPF as well, but i've never seen her scum game) to stage some interactions like this.

I will say that LC looks like he just put himself on lockdown: he wasn't gonna give us a chance to read anything new from him in there.

Tutuu's reaction to being placed in the grasslands looks authentic.

Re: Grasslands [Game Thread]

Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2020 10:44 pm
by Sloonei
Hally wrote: Mon Oct 19, 2020 10:43 pm for what reason does sloonei kill jay over nut? does anyone have a reason? because mafia did that, and if sloonei = mafia HE did that. why would he do that? i really don’t think he would
Spoiler: show
he wouldn't

Re: Grasslands [Game Thread]

Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2020 10:47 pm
by nutella
Hally wrote: Mon Oct 19, 2020 10:43 pm for what reason does sloonei kill jay over nut? does anyone have a reason? because mafia did that, and if sloonei = mafia HE did that. why would he do that? i really don’t think he would
I mean I didn't really want to get into the wifom of this because I think the reason can be exactly that you are posting this right now and doubting it. I keep saying I don't want to let Sloonei get by another day, and maybe I'm wrong and that's a mistake, but maybe that's what he wants you to think.

Idk. I myself am having doubts that he kills jay / from his last few posts. But my vote has been placed, and I don't feel an alison yeet today although that may be the way to go if you're right about the me vs jay thing. I would potentially support a tutuu elimination but kinda feel like not enough people are ready to take that step.

Re: Grasslands [Game Thread]

Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2020 10:49 pm
by nutella
Sloonei wrote: Mon Oct 19, 2020 10:44 pm
Hally wrote: Mon Oct 19, 2020 10:43 pm for what reason does sloonei kill jay over nut? does anyone have a reason? because mafia did that, and if sloonei = mafia HE did that. why would he do that? i really don’t think he would
Spoiler: show
he wouldn't
nnnnnnnnfffffffffffffffffffrrrrrrrrrrrrrgggggg


Damn it ok you guys can yeet alison

Re: Grasslands [Game Thread]

Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2020 10:51 pm
by staypositivefriend
i encourage as much tinfoil toward me as you guys can come up with - i would rather that ppl be paranoid about me now and not later in the game if i'm still alive. on that note, im also fine with not being sent to the grasslands tonight - i think there's a solid chance the maf will feel pressured to kill me, and that the paranoia toward me will be self-resolving

i will try to be around for the deadline tomorrow, but there's a solid chance that i won't be. i'm gonna place my vote before i leave tonight, and it's going to be on sloonei unless something changes my mind within the next few hours. i understand hally's argument for wanting to chop alison over sloonei, but i also feel that sloonei has had a scummier game holistically speaking, and i cant substantiate my suspicions of alison with as much logic as i can with sloonei

Re: Grasslands [Game Thread]

Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2020 10:52 pm
by Hally
nutella wrote: Mon Oct 19, 2020 10:47 pm
Hally wrote: Mon Oct 19, 2020 10:43 pm for what reason does sloonei kill jay over nut? does anyone have a reason? because mafia did that, and if sloonei = mafia HE did that. why would he do that? i really don’t think he would
I mean I didn't really want to get into the wifom of this because I think the reason can be exactly that you are posting this right now and doubting it. I keep saying I don't want to let Sloonei get by another day, and maybe I'm wrong and that's a mistake, but maybe that's what he wants you to think.

Idk. I myself am having doubts that he kills jay / from his last few posts. But my vote has been placed, and I don't feel an alison yeet today although that may be the way to go if you're right about the me vs jay thing. I would potentially support a tutuu elimination but kinda feel like not enough people are ready to take that step.
scum who are at the bottom of the poe don’t make wifom kills that increase their chances of dying and remove a future miselimination that they desperately need. they cannot afford to get fancy. this sort of thing would buy sloonei maybe a day if that. it’s just not an optimal play

Re: Grasslands [Game Thread]

Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2020 10:54 pm
by Thunal33
nutella wrote: Mon Oct 19, 2020 10:47 pm
Hally wrote: Mon Oct 19, 2020 10:43 pm for what reason does sloonei kill jay over nut? does anyone have a reason? because mafia did that, and if sloonei = mafia HE did that. why would he do that? i really don’t think he would
I mean I didn't really want to get into the wifom of this because I think the reason can be exactly that you are posting this right now and doubting it. I keep saying I don't want to let Sloonei get by another day, and maybe I'm wrong and that's a mistake, but maybe that's what he wants you to think.

Idk. I myself am having doubts that he kills jay / from his last few posts. But my vote has been placed, and I don't feel an alison yeet today although that may be the way to go if you're right about the me vs jay thing. I would potentially support a tutuu elimination but kinda feel like not enough people are ready to take that step.
Is there a possible Sloonei teammate who you think has strong reason to kill Jay?

Ok I'm really going to bed now.

Re: Grasslands [Game Thread]

Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2020 10:56 pm
by nutella
Hally wrote: Mon Oct 19, 2020 10:52 pm
nutella wrote: Mon Oct 19, 2020 10:47 pm
Hally wrote: Mon Oct 19, 2020 10:43 pm for what reason does sloonei kill jay over nut? does anyone have a reason? because mafia did that, and if sloonei = mafia HE did that. why would he do that? i really don’t think he would
I mean I didn't really want to get into the wifom of this because I think the reason can be exactly that you are posting this right now and doubting it. I keep saying I don't want to let Sloonei get by another day, and maybe I'm wrong and that's a mistake, but maybe that's what he wants you to think.

Idk. I myself am having doubts that he kills jay / from his last few posts. But my vote has been placed, and I don't feel an alison yeet today although that may be the way to go if you're right about the me vs jay thing. I would potentially support a tutuu elimination but kinda feel like not enough people are ready to take that step.
scum who are at the bottom of the poe don’t make wifom kills that increase their chances of dying and remove a future miselimination that they desperately need. they cannot afford to get fancy. this sort of thing would buy sloonei maybe a day if that. it’s just not an optimal play
fair I guess, but also in the treehouse I was going pretty far into a sloonei/jay w/w theory and maybe sloonei decided that flipping jay might actually break me out of that and make me consider jay's tr of sloonei more

idkidk you may just be right aaaaaaaa

Re: Grasslands [Game Thread]

Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2020 10:57 pm
by nutella
like, confirming jay as v would shut down my theory and even though i suspected sloonei first/independently of jay, jay's flip from w!sloon's pov would hopefully convince me he's town

Re: Grasslands [Game Thread]

Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2020 10:58 pm
by Hally
i will feel extremely dumb if im wrong about this and to be clear, im not saying to lock sloonei town and throw away the key. but i do think that it’s something we can trust in at least for today. it feels like the sort of self evident thing that we will kick ourselves for not getting if sloonei is eliminated this day and flips town

Re: Grasslands [Game Thread]

Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2020 10:58 pm
by nutella
like i think you're right about it being suboptimal and probably not what he'd do but i think there is an argument to be made for it and it's not 100%

Re: Grasslands [Game Thread]

Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2020 11:00 pm
by staypositivefriend
Hally wrote: Mon Oct 19, 2020 10:58 pm i will feel extremely dumb if im wrong about this and to be clear, im not saying to lock sloonei town and throw away the key. but i do think that it’s something we can trust in at least for today. it feels like the sort of self evident thing that we will kick ourselves for not getting if sloonei is eliminated this day and flips town
how do u feel about alison's play today in general? has it made u more suspicious of her?

Re: Grasslands [Game Thread]

Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2020 11:00 pm
by Hally
nutella wrote: Mon Oct 19, 2020 10:56 pm
Hally wrote: Mon Oct 19, 2020 10:52 pm
nutella wrote: Mon Oct 19, 2020 10:47 pm
Hally wrote: Mon Oct 19, 2020 10:43 pm for what reason does sloonei kill jay over nut? does anyone have a reason? because mafia did that, and if sloonei = mafia HE did that. why would he do that? i really don’t think he would
I mean I didn't really want to get into the wifom of this because I think the reason can be exactly that you are posting this right now and doubting it. I keep saying I don't want to let Sloonei get by another day, and maybe I'm wrong and that's a mistake, but maybe that's what he wants you to think.

Idk. I myself am having doubts that he kills jay / from his last few posts. But my vote has been placed, and I don't feel an alison yeet today although that may be the way to go if you're right about the me vs jay thing. I would potentially support a tutuu elimination but kinda feel like not enough people are ready to take that step.
scum who are at the bottom of the poe don’t make wifom kills that increase their chances of dying and remove a future miselimination that they desperately need. they cannot afford to get fancy. this sort of thing would buy sloonei maybe a day if that. it’s just not an optimal play
fair I guess, but also in the treehouse I was going pretty far into a sloonei/jay w/w theory and maybe sloonei decided that flipping jay might actually break me out of that and make me consider jay's tr of sloonei more

idkidk you may just be right aaaaaaaa
is getting you to possibly doubt your read a little more valuable than leaving jay alive so we can eliminate him after sloonei flips scum?

Re: Grasslands [Game Thread]

Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2020 11:01 pm
by nutella
Hally wrote: Mon Oct 19, 2020 10:58 pm i will feel extremely dumb if im wrong about this and to be clear, im not saying to lock sloonei town and throw away the key. but i do think that it’s something we can trust in at least for today. it feels like the sort of self evident thing that we will kick ourselves for not getting if sloonei is eliminated this day and flips town
yeah.


also his comparison to dya kinda struck me as legit / i dont want to be that dumb town that just sleepwalks into the wrong poe'd slot yknow? but on the other hand if he *is* wolf i'd be upset that i had him and let him slip. but i'm thinking more and more that you're right he's probably not and i need to think more about alison/other worlds

Re: Grasslands [Game Thread]

Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2020 11:01 pm
by Hally
staypositivefriend wrote: Mon Oct 19, 2020 11:00 pm
Hally wrote: Mon Oct 19, 2020 10:58 pm i will feel extremely dumb if im wrong about this and to be clear, im not saying to lock sloonei town and throw away the key. but i do think that it’s something we can trust in at least for today. it feels like the sort of self evident thing that we will kick ourselves for not getting if sloonei is eliminated this day and flips town
how do u feel about alison's play today in general? has it made u more suspicious of her?
idk i’ve only just barely skimmed what was said since last night. i just had this Thought and wanted to shout about it :p

Re: Grasslands [Game Thread]

Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2020 11:05 pm
by staypositivefriend
Hally wrote: Mon Oct 19, 2020 11:01 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: Mon Oct 19, 2020 11:00 pm
Hally wrote: Mon Oct 19, 2020 10:58 pm i will feel extremely dumb if im wrong about this and to be clear, im not saying to lock sloonei town and throw away the key. but i do think that it’s something we can trust in at least for today. it feels like the sort of self evident thing that we will kick ourselves for not getting if sloonei is eliminated this day and flips town
how do u feel about alison's play today in general? has it made u more suspicious of her?
idk i’ve only just barely skimmed what was said since last night. i just had this Thought and wanted to shout about it :p
okay valid, i honestly still want sloonei the most just factoring in the interaction analysis/how the game looks holistically to me rn - i have a harder time seeing a slooneitown world than i do seeing an alisontown world. i do understand your argument, though. the jagged kill gives me pause, and if sloonei is scum i dont understand the angle of killing one of his most passionate defenders