The Syndicate

sig wrote: ↑Thu Mar 13, 2025 1:24 pm I think we, and by we I mean someone who isn’t me since jeez life is busy, should keep the D2 voters in a POE.

Also probably worth it to see who voted off wagon D1. I’ve always found day 1 wagons to be rough as mafia, not much manufactured suspicion to go off of and you don’t want to vote for town.


Also if Thunal or Nutella is mafia the other is as well.

Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Mar 16, 2025 11:43 am

sig wrote: ↑Thu Mar 13, 2025 1:24 pm I think we, and by we I mean someone who isn’t me since jeez life is busy, should keep the D2 voters in a POE.

Also probably worth it to see who voted off wagon D1. I’ve always found day 1 wagons to be rough as mafia, not much manufactured suspicion to go off of and you don’t want to vote for town.


Also if Thunal or Nutella is mafia the other is as well.

This is a pretty terrible post for several reasons
1) he wants to keep the POE in the D2 voters. I can’t tell if he means those that voted for Roxy or the other 3 in the d2 poll, but either way thats a bad strategy.
2) ‘if Thunal or Nutella is mafia, the other is as well’ makes absolutely no sense, as up to this point, this is the FIRST TIME sig has mentioned Nutella.
3) he then votes FOR SPRIT, not Nutella.

Guys, sig is bad. I’m confident

[VOTE: sig] aubergine

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Sun Mar 16, 2025 11:40 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Sun Mar 16, 2025 10:20 am

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Sun Mar 16, 2025 8:22 am I still wolf read pyxxy

I have never stopped wolf reading pyxxy I stopped pushing pyxxy and called them town off the back of my conversation with scotty

I was trying to signal something to scotty his response implied to me I should trust his read but his responses at EoD implied i misread what he was saying so we move on Pyxxys vote on me was incredibly wolfy day 1

I also wolf read falcon and sig I just can't find reasons to town read either

You implied a town check on pyxxy because you couldn't explain the town read.
The idea of role fishing from me is ridiculous because I am not doing regardless. But I am always asking about the reason of a weird read waiting for a logical answer and you refused to provide it, hiding behind the accusation of role fishing. If anything, it was you who showed your cards to the wolves.

Since it's obvious now that you never checked pyxxy, I don't trust any green check on a deep wolf read because mafia has a few possibilities to evade a cop check, for eg with godfather, busdriver, and I am sure we can find a few more tricks on their sleeve.

No I implied I was trusting something said in thread as I repeatedly stated and you repeatedly tried to force me to out

Specifically something I thought Scotty was saying to me when I signaled to them that I'd only trust there read if it started d2 but I recalled it starting day 1 at which point Scotty said I think you'll find it started day 2

Wowee I wonder what I thought that meant

But you trying to force me to out what I was looking at when it is actively harmful for me to do is wolfy. Town obfuscate info in mafia all the time for the betterment of town forcing that out is actively wolfy.

You trying to discredit green checks is also actively wolfy.

Michelle wrote: ↑Sun Mar 16, 2025 11:42 am

Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Mar 16, 2025 11:37 am No one has to read my digging in my associations post, but I do entreat that you look at specifically Nutella’s treatment of sprityo and determine for yourself if that is wolf on wolf.

I am going to read her ISO, I read your post but I need to check myself.

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Sun Mar 16, 2025 11:43 am I'm moving on with my life if anyone ever thinks Thunal is a wolf and actively tries to push them while I am alive it's outting wheee

Michelle wrote: ↑Sun Mar 16, 2025 11:46 am

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Sun Mar 16, 2025 11:40 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Sun Mar 16, 2025 10:20 am

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Sun Mar 16, 2025 8:22 am I still wolf read pyxxy

I have never stopped wolf reading pyxxy I stopped pushing pyxxy and called them town off the back of my conversation with scotty

I was trying to signal something to scotty his response implied to me I should trust his read but his responses at EoD implied i misread what he was saying so we move on Pyxxys vote on me was incredibly wolfy day 1

I also wolf read falcon and sig I just can't find reasons to town read either

You implied a town check on pyxxy because you couldn't explain the town read.
The idea of role fishing from me is ridiculous because I am not doing regardless. But I am always asking about the reason of a weird read waiting for a logical answer and you refused to provide it, hiding behind the accusation of role fishing. If anything, it was you who showed your cards to the wolves.

Since it's obvious now that you never checked pyxxy, I don't trust any green check on a deep wolf read because mafia has a few possibilities to evade a cop check, for eg with godfather, busdriver, and I am sure we can find a few more tricks on their sleeve.

No I implied I was trusting something said in thread as I repeatedly stated and you repeatedly tried to force me to out

Specifically something I thought Scotty was saying to me when I signaled to them that I'd only trust there read if it started d2 but I recalled it starting day 1 at which point Scotty said I think you'll find it started day 2

Wowee I wonder what I thought that meant

But you trying to force me to out what I was looking at when it is actively harmful for me to do is wolfy. Town obfuscate info in mafia all the time for the betterment of town forcing that out is actively wolfy.

You trying to discredit green checks is also actively wolfy.

It's not harmful for town to discuss things already posted in the thread implying you have mech reason when you accused me of role fishing. Where did you find this idea?

You never played with godfather, busdriver, commuter and so on?
It's not wolfy to discuss a green check… it's common sense.

Michelle wrote: ↑Sun Mar 16, 2025 11:58 am

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Sun Mar 16, 2025 11:43 am I'm moving on with my life if anyone ever thinks Thunal is a wolf and actively tries to push them while I am alive it's outting wheee

I am pushing her despite your peek for the stated reasons. What now?
You forced the role cop thing calling wolfy my NKA take, and it looks like Nut embraced the idea like it was a new thing for her.
Also you made a weird comment against me related to the last read for Nut from TSP who TR her in the heat of Eod.
It's clear to me that you don't understand my intentions and you jump to conclusions.

Porscha wrote: ↑Sun Mar 16, 2025 11:54 am Abi and Michelle yourw misunderstanding each other over nonsense just drop it

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Sun Mar 16, 2025 12:01 pm If your town and you kill Thunal while I'm claiming they are town than lol

I never claimed my check was a standard cop check i KNOW they are town lol

Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Mar 15, 2025 11:24 pm The poll yesterday:

—————————————
Nutella (8):
Voters: DarlingMonroe, Thunal33, Long Con, Michelle, Scotty, Cape90, S~V~S, DrWilgy

sprityo (4):
Voters: falcon45ca, sig, nutella, sprityo

Thunal33 (1):
Voters: ☆Princess Abigail☆

Not voting (2): pyxxy (presumably couldn’t vote), Porscha

Immediate thoughts:
Thunal33 green checked. SVS dead. I’m town. Leaves Michelle, LC, DM, Cape and Wilgy


Wilgy:

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Mar 14, 2025 7:01 pm [VOTE: nut] aubergine

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Mar 14, 2025 7:04 pm Lightly skimming.

DM showing up and putting sprit ahead felt like shenanigans, but now nuts ahead by two and that also feels like shenanigans.

way to vote nutella with a qualifier, putting doubt on the vote. I don’t like this vote. Scumread from this vote.

Cape:

Cape90 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 13, 2025 4:19 pm @nutella by the way, what changed in terms of your Thunal read day 2, you went from scumreading them to then calling all 4 on the wagon town, noticed this overnight but forgot to ask you and you never explained today

I like this call out. It comes after a slight reads list and brings attention to Nutella unnecessarily.

Cape90 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 14, 2025 7:41 pm [VOTE: nutella] aubergine

nutella writing legacy

vote for nutella came a bit at last minute as a tack on vote on a runaway wagon, but I don’t hate it. Townlean for this vote, but only slightly.


DM:

DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Fri Mar 14, 2025 6:55 pm

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Fri Mar 14, 2025 6:54 pm Pick a number 1 - 4

3

Do I vote out Nutella or Sprityo, Princess Abigail?

asking someone, who she said is one of the top town reads, who to vote? Good look I suppose,

DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Fri Mar 14, 2025 7:13 pm in case I missed it

[VOTE: nutella ] aubergine

7th vote on the runaway train is pretty meh. Scumlean slightly,


LC:

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Mar 14, 2025 7:12 pm I feel like the thread is kind of blocked up, hopefully a nutella yeet will give us something more to go on for Night 3. Finding one Wolf can sometimes be the key!

[VOTE: nutella] aubergine

This comes after casing and voting for Wilgy in his own. Nutella was at the bottom 3 of his reads list with Wilgy and sprityo, and he was the 6th vote for nut. This tracks, and he could have left his vote or even voted sprityo but he didn’t. Townlean.


Michelle:

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Mar 13, 2025 12:04 am [VOTE: nutella] aubergine

Michelle was the first to vote nutella if knowledge serves me. Never wavers. This vote is just good, and I already highly townread Michelle. Town.


In order of nutella voters I would vote:
Wilgy > DM > Cape > LC > Michelle

Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Mar 16, 2025 11:32 am

sprityo wrote: ↑Sun Mar 16, 2025 10:20 am

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Sun Mar 16, 2025 8:17 am Spirit is 3p but should be dealt with sorry spirit

No no you’re valid for this

My biggest fear with you, sprityo, is that your role explanation is only half true and you’re this guy:

Arsonist

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Mar 16, 2025 12:46 pm Announcement:

Michelle is supposed to be off the poll today. That was my error. Rather than take Michelle's name off and make the poll reset, I'll trust that this message will suffice.

Votes today against Michelle will not count.

sprityo wrote: ↑Sun Mar 16, 2025 12:47 pm What’s the beef on falcon again?

nutella wrote: ↑Sun Mar 09, 2025 11:28 pm ok i have read eod, main takeaway is it feels like something is fishy about the roxy/sprityo interaction in some direction, also don't like tsp's vibe so far

town
svs
michelle
abbi
cape

town?
thunal
porscha
scotty
long con

meh
pyxxy
sig
wilgy

bleh
tsp
darling
roxy
sprityo

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Mar 16, 2025 12:46 pm Announcement:

Michelle is supposed to be off the poll today. That was my error. Rather than take Michelle's name off and make the poll reset, I'll trust that this message will suffice.

Votes today against Michelle will not count.

nutella wrote: ↑Sun Mar 09, 2025 11:29 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Sun Mar 09, 2025 11:28 pm ok i have read eod, main takeaway is it feels like something is fishy about the roxy/sprityo interaction in some direction, also don't like tsp's vibe so far

town
svs
michelle
abbi
cape

town?
thunal
porscha
scotty
long con

meh
pyxxy
sig
wilgy

bleh
tsp
darling
roxy
sprityo

wow i counted twice and still missed someone lol. falcon is uhh second tier

Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Mar 16, 2025 2:36 pm

Spoiler: show

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 16, 2025 12:25 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Mar 15, 2025 11:24 pm The poll yesterday:

—————————————
Nutella (8):
Voters: DarlingMonroe, Thunal33, Long Con, Michelle, Scotty, Cape90, S~V~S, DrWilgy

sprityo (4):
Voters: falcon45ca, sig, nutella, sprityo

Thunal33 (1):
Voters: ☆Princess Abigail☆

Not voting (2): pyxxy (presumably couldn’t vote), Porscha

Immediate thoughts:
Thunal33 green checked. SVS dead. I’m town. Leaves Michelle, LC, DM, Cape and Wilgy


Wilgy:

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Mar 14, 2025 7:01 pm [VOTE: nut] aubergine

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Mar 14, 2025 7:04 pm Lightly skimming.

DM showing up and putting sprit ahead felt like shenanigans, but now nuts ahead by two and that also feels like shenanigans.

way to vote nutella with a qualifier, putting doubt on the vote. I don’t like this vote. Scumread from this vote.

Cape:

Cape90 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 13, 2025 4:19 pm @nutella by the way, what changed in terms of your Thunal read day 2, you went from scumreading them to then calling all 4 on the wagon town, noticed this overnight but forgot to ask you and you never explained today

I like this call out. It comes after a slight reads list and brings attention to Nutella unnecessarily.

Cape90 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 14, 2025 7:41 pm [VOTE: nutella] aubergine

nutella writing legacy

vote for nutella came a bit at last minute as a tack on vote on a runaway wagon, but I don’t hate it. Townlean for this vote, but only slightly.


DM:

DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Fri Mar 14, 2025 6:55 pm

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Fri Mar 14, 2025 6:54 pm Pick a number 1 - 4

3

Do I vote out Nutella or Sprityo, Princess Abigail?

asking someone, who she said is one of the top town reads, who to vote? Good look I suppose,

DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Fri Mar 14, 2025 7:13 pm in case I missed it

[VOTE: nutella ] aubergine

7th vote on the runaway train is pretty meh. Scumlean slightly,


LC:

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Mar 14, 2025 7:12 pm I feel like the thread is kind of blocked up, hopefully a nutella yeet will give us something more to go on for Night 3. Finding one Wolf can sometimes be the key!

[VOTE: nutella] aubergine

This comes after casing and voting for Wilgy in his own. Nutella was at the bottom 3 of his reads list with Wilgy and sprityo, and he was the 6th vote for nut. This tracks, and he could have left his vote or even voted sprityo but he didn’t. Townlean.


Michelle:

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Mar 13, 2025 12:04 am [VOTE: nutella] aubergine

Michelle was the first to vote nutella if knowledge serves me. Never wavers. This vote is just good, and I already highly townread Michelle. Town.


In order of nutella voters I would vote:
Wilgy > DM > Cape > LC > Michelle

Weird take on my slot in contrast here, like it almost feels like you wanted my vote to be a scum lean more than it is.

You say it's a qualifier, but my vote came when DM came to the thread put nut out of range by voting Sprit, but before moving back to nut. Should I not have responded to someone who was a good vote being potentially saved by DM?

Further you quantify LC's vote fine as because they moved from an independent case to a previous case that was in alignment with the wagon, but for mine you lack the similar context with my previously expressed view on nut.

Why is this?

The qualifier in question being ‘I’ll vote for nut, but I think it’s all kinda crazy’ leaves room for doubt.

This response has a bit of a ‘what-about-Ian’ layered in with how I’m treating you compared to LC. Do you think I’m coming from a place of manipulation?

Michelle wrote: ↑Sun Mar 16, 2025 2:03 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Sun Mar 09, 2025 11:29 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Sun Mar 09, 2025 11:28 pm ok i have read eod, main takeaway is it feels like something is fishy about the roxy/sprityo interaction in some direction, also don't like tsp's vibe so far

town
svs
michelle
abbi
cape

town?
thunal
porscha
scotty
long con

meh
pyxxy
sig
wilgy

bleh
tsp
darling
roxy
sprityo

wow i counted twice and still missed someone lol. falcon is uhh second tier

Idk how if this is incriminating or clearing. Would she let a mate outside her reads?

Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Mar 16, 2025 2:46 pm What about Ian, though?

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Mar 10, 2025 8:43 pm

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 10, 2025 5:14 pm Scotty
SVS
Cape
Michelle

Abi
Roxy
TSP
Long Con

Porscha
nutella
Falcon

sprityo
DM
Wilgy
pyxxy
sig

i can't help but think that your contributions have been really "safe" as scotty has said

but maybe the game is just easy and the safe takes are right

i don't really follow your progression on porscha though

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Mar 10, 2025 8:44 pm maybe tsp/thunal/porscha are just all wolves together LMAO

Michelle wrote: ↑Sun Mar 16, 2025 3:58 pm I hate the silencer role. It's hard to speculate around people not posting even without it.

Who was silenced except Abi and LC on D2?

Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Mar 16, 2025 4:03 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Sun Mar 16, 2025 3:58 pm I hate the silencer role. It's hard to speculate around people not posting even without it.

Who was silenced except Abi and LC on D2?

pyxxy on Day 3

Michelle wrote: ↑Sun Mar 16, 2025 4:05 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Mar 16, 2025 4:03 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Sun Mar 16, 2025 3:58 pm I hate the silencer role. It's hard to speculate around people not posting even without it.

Who was silenced except Abi and LC on D2?

pyxxy on Day 3

Just pyxxy?
Otoh..
Why would mafia silence Pyxxy?

Michelle wrote: ↑Sun Mar 16, 2025 5:56 am The multi quote button doesn't work.

I wanted to quote Cape with his deep wolf tinfoil. I want details about the safety feeling of my play (idk if that's correct in English but you get it ig) @Cape90

Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Mar 16, 2025 4:12 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Sun Mar 16, 2025 4:05 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Mar 16, 2025 4:03 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Sun Mar 16, 2025 3:58 pm I hate the silencer role. It's hard to speculate around people not posting even without it.

Who was silenced except Abi and LC on D2?

pyxxy on Day 3

Just pyxxy?
Otoh..
Why would mafia silence Pyxxy?

He’s the obvious candidate to be silenced as he was the counterwagon on D2, and still had suspicion. That way, he couldn’t defend himself on D3 if he needed to.

Then people could also bring up the WIFOM ‘well, of course mafia would know this and ‘silence their own’’

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Sun Mar 16, 2025 8:18 am Cape I've been finding wolfy but I think cape completely missing that I was checking Thunal both yesterday when it was pointed out and today when I was actively saying it is... probably towny?

Cape90 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 16, 2025 4:52 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Sun Mar 16, 2025 5:56 am The multi quote button doesn't work.

I wanted to quote Cape with his deep wolf tinfoil. I want details about the safety feeling of my play (idk if that's correct in English but you get it ig) @Cape90

Earlier it just felt like you were mostly navigating the game through asking questions, making observations, and then like occasionally making your own reads, but they have felt either safe (like the pyxxy read day 2 or the abbi read from yesterday), or like you were being really careful about who you gave town cred to, like to the point to where it has almost felt like you will just let anything happen if that makes sense.

Carefully reading your posts today, I think I have a better view on you and your POV and I found your Long Con comment quite towny today. Also via the poll thing, I am speculating that you might die to nutella's role, so im taking that into consideration right now + I was also weary of pyxxy coming into today

Michelle wrote: ↑Sun Mar 16, 2025 5:03 pm

Cape90 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 16, 2025 4:52 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Sun Mar 16, 2025 5:56 am The multi quote button doesn't work.

I wanted to quote Cape with his deep wolf tinfoil. I want details about the safety feeling of my play (idk if that's correct in English but you get it ig) @Cape90

Earlier it just felt like you were mostly navigating the game through asking questions, making observations, and then like occasionally making your own reads, but they have felt either safe (like the pyxxy read day 2 or the abbi read from yesterday), or like you were being really careful about who you gave town cred to, like to the point to where it has almost felt like you will just let anything happen if that makes sense.

Carefully reading your posts today, I think I have a better view on you and your POV and I found your Long Con comment quite towny today. Also via the poll thing, I am speculating that you might die to nutella's role, so im taking that into consideration right now + I was also weary of pyxxy coming into today

Everything you said about my play is correct. If you consider that would make me a deep wolf idk what to say.

Why are you weary about Pyxxy today and not yesterday as well?