The Syndicate

S~V~S wrote: Linki ha ha

I wasn't being rhetorical

SVS, can you elaborate on your vote for LC? Do you agree with me about his "who do you think will get lynched?" question?

S~V~S wrote:He backed off of me, though. And LC put the SVS suspicion back in the thread by voting for me.

The second half of your statement seems to indicate that the first might not be true.

Anywho, I was asking juliets the question because I was trying to determine if she was possibly forwarding LC's aims (i.e. getting the suspicions repeated to make sure it doesn't fade from people's minds while they might be looking for a handy "not-made" vote), or possibly protecting your interests (i.e. making LC's case look flimsy by questioning/minimizing it)....just trying to be like the Big Mafia Kids and do some "prodding" or "scumhunting" or whatever...trying to provoke a response from someone who has been wishy-washy-ish all game.....

I'm not sure it was a particularly successful tactic (i.e. juliets response seems pretty reasonable, and not strongly indicitive of a close alignment to either you or LC), but I'm just trying shit out.

Made wrote:

S~V~S wrote: Linki ha ha

I wasn't being rhetorical

I wasn't ha ha ing at you

Canucklehead wrote:

juliets wrote:LonG Con, if you're still around, can you be more specific about why you are voting for SVS? Is it something she said, some way that she's been acting, or just a feeling?

linki - yes bullz i ask a lot of questions. It's a hallmark of my style.

Juliets, this is a really weird question. LC and SVS have had several back-and-forths where his suspicion of her was outlined and explained in great detail, and her responses were also very detailed. What more specificity are you looking for? Or are you subtly trying to keep putting the SVS suspicion out into the thread in the hopes that people will latch onto it? I'm not sure who you might be trying to protect by doing this....
Need to think on it...

Yeah, I thought both LC and SVS had explained their feelings about each other quite clearly. This feels too much like JC trying to play it safe and not take sides.

And Bullz, that was the one case about JC that I wasn't quite sure about. Reading back though looking for that Made quote about MR, I remember the conversation LC and JC had had, and that was what pinged me with her before.

As for Made's case about MR, I agree on some points and disagree on others. I think he pushed for Made earlier on, but I do agree that he can usually be a bit slower to start up at the beginning of games. I feel mixed enough that I will not be voting for MR today.

Llama I will address you and Made too when I get home. It is was easier to pull quotes at home than on phone.

I'm not sure what you mean by me trying not to take sides? Why would I have even asked the question if I'm trying to stay out of it and not take sides? I ask a lot of questions, sometimes they are good and sometimes others may see them as foolish but that's how I baddie hunt.

S~V~S wrote:Llama I will address you and Made too when I get home. It is was easier to pull quotes at home than on phone.

Thank you! BWT says you've expressed your feelings about LC quite well, but I am not seeing it in a reread, so I am interested to hear your thoughts.

EBWOP: That post was to BWT.

juliets wrote:I'm not sure what you mean by me trying not to take sides? Why would I have even asked the question if I'm trying to stay out of it and not take sides? I ask a lot of questions, sometimes they are good and sometimes others may see them as foolish but that's how I baddie hunt.

I know you do. But I feel like LC has made it fairly clear why he suspects SVS multiple times, and she has offered detailed defenses.

If you have time before the lynch ends, I would suggest going back and reading it. Because your response may determine if I vote for you or not.

birdwithteeth11 wrote:

Canucklehead wrote:

juliets wrote:LonG Con, if you're still around, can you be more specific about why you are voting for SVS? Is it something she said, some way that she's been acting, or just a feeling?

linki - yes bullz i ask a lot of questions. It's a hallmark of my style.

Juliets, this is a really weird question. LC and SVS have had several back-and-forths where his suspicion of her was outlined and explained in great detail, and her responses were also very detailed. What more specificity are you looking for? Or are you subtly trying to keep putting the SVS suspicion out into the thread in the hopes that people will latch onto it? I'm not sure who you might be trying to protect by doing this....
Need to think on it...

Yeah, I thought both LC and SVS had explained their feelings about each other quite clearly. This feels too much like JC trying to play it safe and not take sides.

Huh, nice catch. (Or at least nice articulate of the catch). While at points I didn't understand their arguement (see back when they were talking about warnings) clarification would of been asked for, not more discussion of each other...

Linki- what were you trying to accomplish with this question in particular?

birdwithteeth11 wrote: And Bullz, that was the one case about JC that I wasn't quite sure about. Reading back though looking for that Made quote about MR, I remember the conversation LC and JC had had, and that was what pinged me with her before.

Also, are you talking about the posts where LC thought I had brought up something about Made that was far fetched and it pinged him, and it turned out somebody else brought the point up earlier than me and it didn't ping him. When I finally was able to prove that he backed off that point.

And BWT I already re-read it and now understand what LC's reasons were.

Not sure if that last post made sense so clarifying. I didn't understand parts of the initial points svs and lc. If she didn't understand the answers she would want clarification not answers.
(No corrections of paragraph 2)

Pronouns...if JC didn't understand....*

juliets wrote:

birdwithteeth11 wrote: And Bullz, that was the one case about JC that I wasn't quite sure about. Reading back though looking for that Made quote about MR, I remember the conversation LC and JC had had, and that was what pinged me with her before.

Also, are you talking about the posts where LC thought I had brought up something about Made that was far fetched and it pinged him, and it turned out somebody else brought the point up earlier than me and it didn't ping him. When I finally was able to prove that he backed off that point.

And BWT I already re-read it and now understand what LC's reasons were.

Alright. Did you already state what you took away from it or not? Because if you did, I missed it.

BWT, I'm between a rock and a hard place. Canuck is suspish because she thinks I only asked the question so LC's suspicions would be listed again, thus being bad for SVS (at least thats what I interpreted that she said). You want me to say here what LC's suspicions of SVS are, though I'm not sure of the reason you want me to do that. Either way I go someone is going to be displeased.

Made town.

juliets wrote:BWT, I'm between a rock and a hard place. Canuck is suspish because she thinks I only asked the question so LC's suspicions would be listed again, thus being bad for SVS (at least thats what I interpreted that she said). You want me to say here what LC's suspicions of SVS are, though I'm not sure of the reason you want me to do that. Either way I go someone is going to be displeased.

I won't be displeased, juliets. Don't hold your tongue on my account.

I'm not "suspish" of you, as I stated in my last post.

Remember fellow townies, it's not too late to change your vote, nor is it too late to place your vote on a scum-aligned player.

juliets wrote:BWT, I'm between a rock and a hard place. Canuck is suspish because she thinks I only asked the question so LC's suspicions would be listed again, thus being bad for SVS (at least thats what I interpreted that she said). You want me to say here what LC's suspicions of SVS are, though I'm not sure of the reason you want me to do that. Either way I go someone is going to be displeased.

I'm not asking you to re-state suspicions. I'm asking you what you opinion is of LC and SVS. Statements like that make me think you're afraid of making a commitment, and make me more likely to think you're bad. But you might be able to clear up what my mind is thinking.

It's not like I'm saying for sure I'm going to vote for you. I just want to see you give a hard opinion on something. Because I don't feel like you have this game. At all.

Linki: Who is scum-aligned then, in your opinion?

birdwithteeth11 wrote:

juliets wrote:BWT, I'm between a rock and a hard place. Canuck is suspish because she thinks I only asked the question so LC's suspicions would be listed again, thus being bad for SVS (at least thats what I interpreted that she said). You want me to say here what LC's suspicions of SVS are, though I'm not sure of the reason you want me to do that. Either way I go someone is going to be displeased.

I'm not asking you to re-state suspicions. I'm asking you what you opinion is of LC and SVS. Statements like that make me think you're afraid of making a commitment, and make me more likely to think you're bad. But you might be able to clear up what my mind is thinking.

It's not like I'm saying for sure I'm going to vote for you. I just want to see you give a hard opinion on something. Because I don't feel like you have this game. At all.

Linki: Who is scum-aligned then, in your opinion?

BWT - I made a whole list did you not see it? It had who I thought was good, who I wasnt sure of and who I was suspicious of besides made. If you didn't see it I'll find the linky for it.

See vote.

Keterman wrote:Made town.

juliets wrote:

birdwithteeth11 wrote:

juliets wrote:BWT, I'm between a rock and a hard place. Canuck is suspish because she thinks I only asked the question so LC's suspicions would be listed again, thus being bad for SVS (at least thats what I interpreted that she said). You want me to say here what LC's suspicions of SVS are, though I'm not sure of the reason you want me to do that. Either way I go someone is going to be displeased.

I'm not asking you to re-state suspicions. I'm asking you what you opinion is of LC and SVS. Statements like that make me think you're afraid of making a commitment, and make me more likely to think you're bad. But you might be able to clear up what my mind is thinking.

It's not like I'm saying for sure I'm going to vote for you. I just want to see you give a hard opinion on something. Because I don't feel like you have this game. At all.

Linki: Who is scum-aligned then, in your opinion?

BWT - I made a whole list did you not see it? It had who I thought was good, who I wasnt sure of and who I was suspicious of besides made. If you didn't see it I'll find the linky for it.

I did, but I couldn't find it for some reason. Could you link me to it?

Also, you're still beating around the bush here.

Keterman wrote:See vote.

And why do you think MR is bad?

I'm going to place my vote on MM for now because I just can't shake my gut feeling about him.

Keterman voted MR, Teefies.

Does he have anything to add toMades case, I wonder?

Linki fest

birdwithteeth11 wrote:

Keterman wrote:See vote.

And why do you think MR is bad?

His posts appear insincere and contrived to manipulate the civilian masses.

Here is the list I made last night. Made would fall into the group I'm suspicious of but when SVS asked for my list she said if made were off the board who would be left for me. Note that at the bottom where it says MM it should say MR. I corrected that through a thread post. Since the time of this list I have two questions for MR that he has not answered and depending on his answer he may be my strongest suspicion.
And I'm not beating around the bush. I published this last night.

juliets wrote:S~V~S, I am better able to do this backwards, i.e., tell you who I'm not suspecting at the moment:

canuck
dana
hedgeowl
long con
lorab
daisy
SVS
llama

so that leaves:
bea
boogs
bullz
metalmarsh
mr rearranger
mongoose
blooper
reywas

Of those, the ones that I would take a closer look at first are:
boogs
MM
mongoose
reywas

Boogs i have had a pingy feeling about but want to review his most recent posts. MM, made laid out a case on him and was surprised that he got no reaction from the rest of us. I need to re-read him and then re-read made's case because it did not make an impression on me. Mongoose because canuck had a strong feeling about her and I just haven't had time to re-read and think closely about her yet and reywas I was pinged by something early but I can't remember what so that calls for a re-read. If made were off the board these would be the people I looked at most closely unlesssomeone comes forward with something meaty about someone else.

I could get behind an MR lynch.

S~V~S wrote:Keterman voted MR, Teefies.

Does he have anything to add toMades case, I wonder?

Linki fest

You and Long Con are townies under the influence of dark spirrrritual forccces...

Alright. Thanks for that then, JC.

I need some time to sit and reflect on all of this before I vote.

Keterman wrote:

S~V~S wrote:Keterman voted MR, Teefies.

Does he have anything to add toMades case, I wonder?

Linki fest

You and Long Con are townies under the influence of dark spirrrritual forccces...

What on Earth does this mean?

Bullzeye wrote:

Keterman wrote:

S~V~S wrote:Keterman voted MR, Teefies.

Does he have anything to add toMades case, I wonder?

Linki fest

You and Long Con are townies under the influence of dark spirrrritual forccces...

What on Earth does this mean?

The obvious interpretation is Long Con and SVS are being pitted against each other.

Made wrote:

Bullzeye wrote:

Keterman wrote:

S~V~S wrote:Keterman voted MR, Teefies.

Does he have anything to add toMades case, I wonder?

Linki fest

You and Long Con are townies under the influence of dark spirrrritual forccces...

What on Earth does this mean?

The obvious interpretation is Long Con and SVS are being pitted against each other.

not to say it's the right one

Made wrote:

Bullzeye wrote:

Keterman wrote:

S~V~S wrote:Keterman voted MR, Teefies.

Does he have anything to add toMades case, I wonder?

Linki fest

You and Long Con are townies under the influence of dark spirrrritual forccces...

What on Earth does this mean?

The obvious interpretation is Long Con and SVS are being pitted against each other.

Well yeah but I feel like they've been against each other for longer than any outside force could make them be.

I've been away, Juliet. Here ya go.

juliets wrote: I don't remember MR answering this though it may be that he did and I missed it since I didn't really catch this point the first time around. MR, why did you call the BWT/Daisy/Canuck votes in a row coincidental?

It had a pre-emptive strike kind of feel to it, if that makes sense.

And to answer your 2nd question, I voted MM to lay down a vote in case I missed the deadline. I'm not confident in it or any ideas beyond my gut read of Enrique before, and he is not an option.

BWT's right, I have gotten off to a very slow start in this game and I'm not sure when I'm going to start "feeling it". I'm putting forth as much effort as I can though.

On a light note, my sister had a ballin' 21st birthday celebration, mission accomplished.

I'm starving and I just got home from work. I'm going with Made for reasons already stated (simplicity and all that jazz) so I can eat and relax sans computer for a while, as I've been working with one all day and I'd like a break I plan on being back later tonight to check the thread.

Yay quesadilla time! And happy birthday, MR!

nijuukyugou wrote:I'm starving and I just got home from work. I'm going with Made for reasons already stated (simplicity and all that jazz) so I can eat and relax sans computer for a while, as I've been working with one all day and I'd like a break I plan on being back later tonight to check the thread.

Yay quesadilla time! And happy birthday, MR!

And by that I mean happy birthday to your sister Told you I needed a break.

Voting Made because nothing has changed my mind since yesterday. If he turns up bad, we may see who his teammates are.

Mister Rearranger wrote:I've been away, Juliet. Here ya go.

juliets wrote: I don't remember MR answering this though it may be that he did and I missed it since I didn't really catch this point the first time around. MR, why did you call the BWT/Daisy/Canuck votes in a row coincidental?

It had a pre-emptive strike kind of feel to it, if that makes sense.

Thank you for responding MR. I'm still a little confused about the first item. You called their votes coincidental which means there was no connection between the three but to explain why you called them coincidental you say they had the feeling of a pre-emptive strike. That would be the opposite of coincidental. A pre-emptive strike would be planned and coordinated I would think. I must be misreading you somehow - can you clear me up?

nijuukyugou wrote:I'm starving and I just got home from work. I'm going with Made for reasons already stated (simplicity and all that jazz) so I can eat and relax sans computer for a while, as I've been working with one all day and I'd like a break I plan on being back later tonight to check the thread.

Yay quesadilla time! And happy birthday, MR!

This is a weak vote. You should know as well as I do that Made has not done anything against his history as a benevolent gangster.

linki - His suspicions are make-believe, and from that comes the contradiction.

Boogs wrote:Voting Made because nothing has changed my mind since yesterday. If he turns up bad, we may see who his teammates are.

Not even when I directly replied to your original reason for voting for me-That even a civvie would want to defend themself- nothing has changed?

I just want to make sure you acknowledge this post before In case i do die.

I'm afraid I'm going to forget/miss the vote, since I'm frantically lesson-planning and prepping right now. I didn't have time to go back and look at Made's MR case (wasted too much time trying to prod poor juliets :P ), and I haven't really seen a compelling reason to vote there (though other people seem to?), and I'm not a fan of the "Vote made for informational purposes, yo!" approach (though I get why people think it might be useful), and I'm worried that my phantom MM suspicion is being fueled purely by the fumes of other phantom MM suspicions, since no one seems to be willing/able to pull anything concrete despite apparent efforts to do so......so I might repeat a Mongoose vote, for gutty reasons, and for her response to my suspicions not being enough to shake my gutty feelings.

My only hesitation re: MM is that he hasn't seemed to have had any sort of reaction to all the "I think I'm suspicious of MM but I have no reason or evidence for why" talk (including my own) that has been tossed about in the last few days. When I'm a civ and my name keeps coming up for absolutely no reason at all, I get CRAY CRAY bothered by it and make a big fuss. Maybe that's just not the way MM rolls, but I do find it a little odd that he isn't at all bugged by the really flimsy accusations about him and the repeated resurfacing of his name.
(If such a response exists, please someone point me to it....)

Voting Mongoose for now......open to changing it if I have time/remember to come back before the poll ends and someone makes a really good argument for doing so (not because I don't suspect her, but because I realize that my vote is pretty useless there all by its lonesome)

linki: really interesting point, juliets.

Canucklehead wrote:I'm afraid I'm going to forget/miss the vote, since I'm frantically lesson-planning and prepping right now. I didn't have time to go back and look at Made's MR case (wasted too much time trying to prod poor juliets :P ), and I haven't really seen a compelling reason to vote there (though other people seem to?), and I'm not a fan of the "Vote made for informational purposes, yo!" approach (though I get why people think it might be useful), and I'm worried that my phantom MM suspicion is being fueled purely by the fumes of other phantom MM suspicions, since no one seems to be willing/able to pull anything concrete despite apparent efforts to do so......so I might repeat a Mongoose vote, for gutty reasons, and for her response to my suspicions not being enough to shake my gutty feelings.

My only hesitation re: MM is that he hasn't seemed to have had any sort of reaction to all the "I think I'm suspicious of MM but I have no reason or evidence for why" talk (including my own) that has been tossed about in the last few days. When I'm a civ and my name keeps coming up for absolutely no reason at all, I get CRAY CRAY bothered by it and make a big fuss. Maybe that's just not the way MM rolls, but I do find it a little odd that he isn't at all bugged by the really flimsy accusations about him and the repeated resurfacing of his name.
(If such a response exists, please someone point me to it....)

Voting Mongoose for now......open to changing it if I have time/remember to come back before the poll ends and someone makes a really good argument for doing so (not because I don't suspect her, but because I realize that my vote is pretty useless there all by its lonesome)

linki: really interesting point, juliets.

What was your opinion of voting to save me? I'd be willing to change my vote to MM, another vote from JC (I think she also spoke suspicions of MM) would be enough to at least tie it.

Jules and Knuckles, I highly recommend voting MR.

I'm hearing you Keterman -

Wait shit I didn't realize this was ending so early.

Catching up~~

Fml. Health inspector just.left.and we.are.at.a.fail. I'm going.to put in a leap of.faith.vote.at Mr. He.hasn't.screamed baddie but.he hasn't exactly screemed civ.to.me.either

What is this, M is for Mafia? Without a sole exception, all of the vote-recipients have M-names.

Dial M for Mafia? This takes me back to the B is for Baddie days.

Not voting Made (at least for today) after Day 2's lynch debacle. That's a whole plate of shark tail I just can't wifom into right now, y'all.

Scanning like a madwoman and then voting so I can leave work, ha.