The Syndicate

Made wrote:Did baddie have a vote upgrade that would make the game unwinnable?

llama and I bought enough bait to bribe everyone in the end since we lost Eloh, who had 3x voting power.

Linki - I believe llama blocked you with a lovely boomerang, MM

And nope, that was me with the bomb

Made wrote:Did baddie have a vote upgrade that would make the game unwinnable?

They spent the rest of their money on bait and made everybody vote for you.

LizKeen wrote:Good job mafia! I was sure llama was good early on mostly because we thought alike. And I thought made was probably Zola. I'd have never figured it out.

llama's super power: Make people trust you by agreeing with them. He got me hard in Harry Potter for that.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Also, I rolechecked MR on Night 6, but for some reason it failed. Anyone know why?

llama's boomerang.

Addendum: I see I've wasted my time.

Good game.

My secret power was SO AWESOME~ but I had to be lynched to trigger it. I tried so hard to be blendy so Llama would try to lynch me, lol, but it was not to be. Good game baddies

S~V~S wrote:My secret power was SO AWESOME~ but I had to be lynched to trigger it. I tried so hard to be blendy so Llama would try to lynch me, lol, but it was not to be. Good game baddies

Ah yes- if Gleeok was lynched, S~V~S and two other civilians would be resurrected as Gleeok's heads. These heads would be sock accounts, and, even though they'd have no Night power and couldn't serve as a guardian anymore, they would add to the civilian voting bloc.

I spotted Russ as Ganon ages ago.

Llama i will not forget this game.

And because I'm so disappointed that this didn't get to happen, I am putting Gleeok in the game of champions!

And as MM asked, how was I killed? The recorder alone can't do it?

Snow Dog wrote:And as MM asked, how was I killed? The recorder alone can't do it?

That was just story- you guys were outnumbered in terms of voting power.

Epignosis wrote:And because I'm so disappointed that this didn't get to happen, I am putting Gleeok in the game of champions!

Epignosis wrote:

Snow Dog wrote:And as MM asked, how was I killed? The recorder alone can't do it?

That was just story- you guys were outnumbered in terms of voting power.

Was Eloh rezzed, or was that also flavor?

Also, what was the answer to the lion riddle?

Good game everyone! Despite how long it was before you found any of us, we were INCREDIBLY close to losing. We just barely had enough money to pull off the bait at the end. What a nail biter!

And I feel really, really bad for deceiving Snow so effectively. You know I love you, buddy.

I also want to thank Eloh and Nijuu for being AMAZING team members. They both played a brilliant game.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:I'm definitely voting for llama tomorrow though based on Eloh's read of him.

I doubt that Made is Hyrulian. I'm a bit torn between ninja and Snow Dog from trying to sort out Eloh's thoughts. My own read has been civ on Snow Dog, which would leave ninja as the other option. Thoughts Russti?

Yeah, I personally am convinced Ninja is bad. She threw away her vote in the first poll where we had a real chance to get a baddie, and lo and behold Elo survived that one. Very very very shady.

My best suspicion for the third one is llama atm, but I'm not 100% on him yet.

llama, if I were to ask you to refrain from voting at all tomorrow to prove your civ intentions, could you agree to that? (This is presuming we can get a unanimous or nearly unanimous lynch on Blooper, of course.)

Metalmarsh89 wrote: I'm pretty sure Eloh had been pushing for a Made lynch since before we (except Made) decided she was bad.

I believe you on this, but do you ind finding a quote to support it? It would help my opinion of Made.

Linki: Welp, I was right.

How many rupees did you have left Russti?

Also, how many rupees did we cost you on the money-making game? :P

thellama73 wrote:I also want to thank Eloh and Nijuu for being AMAZING team members. They both played a brilliant game.

I second that sentiment (except replace my name with yours, good sir )

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Elohcin wrote:Snow, I would have stayed alive if you hadn't made me vote myself

It was good fun guys!

That's so awesome.

By the way, did you actually buy a bomb when I suspected you did or not?

As Niju said, no. I had only bought vote worth 2, then the vote worth 3, then the -1 lynch vote.

It was, Logan Always enjoy being your partner and really enjoyed you Niju.

It was so fun because of how close it was there at the end

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

Snow Dog wrote:And as MM asked, how was I killed? The recorder alone can't do it?

That was just story- you guys were outnumbered in terms of voting power.

Was Eloh rezzed, or was that also flavor?

Also, what was the answer to the lion riddle?

She won, so both?

The answer is nothing would happen.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Also, how many rupees did we cost you on the money-making game? :P

Based on memory, you broke even.

I actually came out even on the money-making game, I think! I was kinda salty you guys were gambling my money, though. :P

I spent a LOT of rupees on your Patra. I wwas really torn between it and a Wizzrobe. Looking back, I wish I could get a do-over on that. If anyone had figured out who the baddies and/or I were, they could've stopped all Night kills. Oh well, hindsight is 20/20. I think I had like 60 Overworld and 80 Underworld rupees at the end. But I knew we needed voting power, and all my Overworld minions were dead.

The bait-buying was a clever strategy, llama.

And MM, you helped me a TON this game, so I'm glad the Patra ended up being you. Your suggestion to count rupees worked really really well. I actually found Elo and Ninja through that; the night of the crossword, I was able to count up how many I should've gotten, and when I saw that 15 were missing I knew they were bad.

That actually messed me up at first, though. On the night of the money-making game, I guesstimated how many I should've gotten. That's why I suspected you and fingers for a while; I thought there was no way we could've earned that many rupees on the Moon game, so I figured one of the people who voted 1 was bad, and that we had won money gambling.

Then, the night of the swastika puzzle, I was able to count that we got gold for 6 puzzles. That was why I was so curious about who turned one in; I knew I could figure out who was lying. Only 6 people said they turned in puzzles at first. If that had been true, all puzzle-doers would have been confirmed civs, meaning there were 3 baddies among 9 non-puzzle-doers. I was dead convinced you or fingers was bad, and so I made that huge case that morning. Then, when 3 more people said they had done puzzles, I realized the exact opposite was true and had to backtrack hard to not risk lynching either of you. I think it hurt my credibility a lot later, and put a ton of suspicion on me, so I was annoyed people hadn't told me sooner.

I created this game to make it harder on the Mafia. I want to point out that if nijuu ever took a vote (or two or three, depending on the Day), she could not kill anybody for free. And if she got lynched, her team would have NO kill at all except what they could buy.

nijuu took not a single vote the entire game. Keep her in mind folks!

That was probably the most exciting game I have ever played in, day-to-day. I LOVED being able to figure some things out for myself, and not either being totally in the dark or handed info. I came home from work every day, and when the post came up I went to town with lists and rupee counts and logic trains. I really wanted to win this one for the civs. Thanks for the awesome game, Epi!

And llama, I thought at the beginning of the game you were acting less zany than normal and wondered if something was up. I was still getting my bearings, and other major discussions were going on, so I didn't follow up on it. Should have done. Anyway, you and your whole team played a really awesome game.

Linki: If we had lynched her yesterday, could we have still won?

Oh! And S~V~S, I can't believe how normal you acted given your role! After seeing INH in the Tournament of Champions last year, I expected insane antics from Gleeok. Every day I was hoping we were lynching you, because I knew we weren't even close to a baddie and I wanted to see what would happen.

Russtifinko wrote:That was probably the most exciting game I have ever played in, day-to-day. I LOVED being able to figure some things out for myself, and not either being totally in the dark or handed info. I came home from work every day, and when the post came up I went to town with lists and rupee counts and logic trains. I really wanted to win this one for the civs. Thanks for the awesome game, Epi!

I can tell people now that I handpicked you for this role, hoping you would bring this kind of zeal to it. Thank YOU for that, Russti!

Russtifinko wrote:Linki: If we had lynched her yesterday, could we have still won?

Eloh's vote was worth 3 (she bought the rod and the book), and nijuu's vote was worth 2 (she had a rod only). thellama73 had a 1 the whole time. So if you all had lynched nijuu, there would have been no kill, but they would have still had a voting power of 4.

MM89 targeted Snow Dog the Night he died, so he would have learned SD was civilian, by the way.

Epi was I that stupid spider the whole time or did I ever get upgraded?

Snow Dog was the most powerful civilian toward the end, since he could force people to vote certain ways.

Also, if you got lynched, you had to give your Triforce to someone who voted for you, and if you were NK, your killer got your Triforce.

fingersplints wrote:Epi was I that stupid spider the whole time or did I ever get upgraded?

Russti came this close to upgrading you to Moblin (he didn't know which person he was upgrading) the Day MR got lynched and did not. I believe that was the ultimate turning point in the game.

Epignosis wrote:

fingersplints wrote:Epi was I that stupid spider the whole time or did I ever get upgraded?

Russti came this close to upgrading you to Moblin (he didn't know which person he was upgrading) the Day MR got lynched and did not. I believe that was the ultimate turning point in the game.

I did actually look at some of the puzzles and stuff. I'm just embarrassingly bad at figuring stuff like that out when I feel pressured too :/

I just went on in that speed game about how I hated vanilla civvie roles too! haha I pouted for like a day and swore I was going to play this game less invested because of it. Didn't last I did get over it and enjoy myself in the end.

I defended llama for a bit for no other reason then I didn't believe he would kill the most talkative players first.

I gotta look back now because I want to see what went down with that triforce. I hadn't really bothered with them, but after I decided I wanted that one, it was all I could think about haha

Epignosis wrote:

Russtifinko wrote:That was probably the most exciting game I have ever played in, day-to-day. I LOVED being able to figure some things out for myself, and not either being totally in the dark or handed info. I came home from work every day, and when the post came up I went to town with lists and rupee counts and logic trains. I really wanted to win this one for the civs. Thanks for the awesome game, Epi!

I can tell people now that I handpicked you for this role, hoping you would bring this kind of zeal to it. Thank YOU for that, Russti!

Russtifinko wrote:Linki: If we had lynched her yesterday, could we have still won?

Eloh's vote was worth 3 (she bought the rod and the book), and nijuu's vote was worth 2 (she had a rod only). thellama73 had a 1 the whole time. So if you all had lynched nijuu, there would have been no kill, but they would have still had a voting power of 4.

MM89 targeted Snow Dog the Night he died, so he would have learned SD was civilian, by the way.

Son of a bitch. So llama convincing Snowy to switch his vote was the deciding factor in the game.

I don't blame you Snowy. If everyone hadn't put their votes on Eloh already, I probably would have joined you, because I was suspicious of MR. The main reason was because I had rolechecked MR the previous night and the action failed. I assumed MR had a shield. I was bewildered when he flipped civ. That told us who all the baddies were at that point, but it was also too late.

Thanks to everyone for the help you gave me, and to Epignosis for putting up with all my confused PM's,

Russtifinko wrote:I actually came out even on the money-making game, I think! I was kinda salty you guys were gambling my money, though. :P

I spent a LOT of rupees on your Patra. I wwas really torn between it and a Wizzrobe. Looking back, I wish I could get a do-over on that. If anyone had figured out who the baddies and/or I were, they could've stopped all Night kills. Oh well, hindsight is 20/20. I think I had like 60 Overworld and 80 Underworld rupees at the end. But I knew we needed voting power, and all my Overworld minions were dead.

I kinda agree with you. When I first got the role, I was excited, but as the civvies kept dropping, I realized my role wasn't going to do anything.

I'm glad you were Ganon too. Unfortunately, I was terrible in participating in contests after I was upgraded.

Thanks Rob for hosting. This was a dandy of a game.

I've decided that I hate secrets. My imagination runs wild when I'm trying to figure out what they are.

Russtifinko wrote: And MM, you helped me a TON this game, so I'm glad the Patra ended up being you. Your suggestion to count rupees worked really really well. I actually found Elo and Ninja through that; the night of the crossword, I was able to count up how many I should've gotten, and when I saw that 15 were missing I knew they were bad.

I knew you'd do that the moment I played that game and people kept putting the damned answer counts up. But I couldn't resist a crossword puzzle, let alone that crazy speed one :P

Epignosis wrote:I created this game to make it harder on the Mafia. I want to point out that if nijuu ever took a vote (or two or three, depending on the Day), she could not kill anybody for free. And if she got lynched, her team would have NO kill at all except what they could buy.

nijuu took not a single vote the entire game. Keep her in mind folks!

Epignosis wrote:

fingersplints wrote:Epi was I that stupid spider the whole time or did I ever get upgraded?

Russti came this close to upgrading you to Moblin (he didn't know which person he was upgrading) the Day MR got lynched and did not. I believe that was the ultimate turning point in the game.

Ugh. I lost due to poor gold management. I probably could've managed a Wizzrobe and a Moblin.

I actually didn't do that partly because I was still afraid llama was a misguided civ at that point, and I didn't want him turning the lynch in the baddies' favor by mistake. I didn't have enough trust in my team, I guess, which is weird in mafia. The other reason I didn't do it was because I was Skyping my girlfriend when the lynch came down to the wire. Whatcha gonna do?

Russtifinko wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

fingersplints wrote:Epi was I that stupid spider the whole time or did I ever get upgraded?

Russti came this close to upgrading you to Moblin (he didn't know which person he was upgrading) the Day MR got lynched and did not. I believe that was the ultimate turning point in the game.

Ugh. I lost due to poor gold management. I probably could've managed a Wizzrobe and a Moblin.

I actually didn't do that partly because I was still afraid llama was a misguided civ at that point, and I didn't want him turning the lynch in the baddies' favor by mistake. I didn't have enough trust in my team, I guess, which is weird in mafia. The other reason I didn't do it was because I was Skyping my girlfriend when the lynch came down to the wire. Whatcha gonna do?

That's what this game is all about. Your instincts could have been right, and then the Mafia would have been singing a different tune. Can't fault you dude. I know how much you agonized over that decision.

Congrats to my Harry Potter buddies for being FEBs once again!!!

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

Russtifinko wrote:That was probably the most exciting game I have ever played in, day-to-day. I LOVED being able to figure some things out for myself, and not either being totally in the dark or handed info. I came home from work every day, and when the post came up I went to town with lists and rupee counts and logic trains. I really wanted to win this one for the civs. Thanks for the awesome game, Epi!

I can tell people now that I handpicked you for this role, hoping you would bring this kind of zeal to it. Thank YOU for that, Russti!

Russtifinko wrote:Linki: If we had lynched her yesterday, could we have still won?

Eloh's vote was worth 3 (she bought the rod and the book), and nijuu's vote was worth 2 (she had a rod only). thellama73 had a 1 the whole time. So if you all had lynched nijuu, there would have been no kill, but they would have still had a voting power of 4.

MM89 targeted Snow Dog the Night he died, so he would have learned SD was civilian, by the way.

Son of a bitch. So llama convincing Snowy to switch his vote was the deciding factor in the game.

I don't blame you Snowy. If everyone hadn't put their votes on Eloh already, I probably would have joined you, because I was suspicious of MR. The main reason was because I had rolechecked MR the previous night and the action failed. I assumed MR had a shield. I was bewildered when he flipped civ. That told us who all the baddies were at that point, but it was also too late.

Thanks. But I blame me. I was totally fooled by Logan. He knew my weakspot is trusting ProgArchive members too much. Should have listened to you guys. And I must apologise to Made. I could never shake off the belief you were bad.

Thing is this game I was more active on making cases early in the game and following it up, so when Boogs said I was blendy I was like "what the fuck", he sealed his fate with me for that. However as civ after civ got lynched I lost all trust in anything. I lost my way a bit. Only one thing I really counted on was that Russ was Ganon.
What gave him away for me? He acted like ganon for a start. It was like he was in charge. And when he said to vote for him, that he could "take it", was when I knew.
Rob...the nights of no kills. Was one of them an attempt on me?

Snow Dog wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

Russtifinko wrote:That was probably the most exciting game I have ever played in, day-to-day. I LOVED being able to figure some things out for myself, and not either being totally in the dark or handed info. I came home from work every day, and when the post came up I went to town with lists and rupee counts and logic trains. I really wanted to win this one for the civs. Thanks for the awesome game, Epi!

I can tell people now that I handpicked you for this role, hoping you would bring this kind of zeal to it. Thank YOU for that, Russti!

Russtifinko wrote:Linki: If we had lynched her yesterday, could we have still won?

Eloh's vote was worth 3 (she bought the rod and the book), and nijuu's vote was worth 2 (she had a rod only). thellama73 had a 1 the whole time. So if you all had lynched nijuu, there would have been no kill, but they would have still had a voting power of 4.

MM89 targeted Snow Dog the Night he died, so he would have learned SD was civilian, by the way.

Son of a bitch. So llama convincing Snowy to switch his vote was the deciding factor in the game.

I don't blame you Snowy. If everyone hadn't put their votes on Eloh already, I probably would have joined you, because I was suspicious of MR. The main reason was because I had rolechecked MR the previous night and the action failed. I assumed MR had a shield. I was bewildered when he flipped civ. That told us who all the baddies were at that point, but it was also too late.

Thanks. But I blame me. I was totally fooled by Logan. He knew my weakspot is trusting ProgArchive members too much. Should have listened to you guys. And I must apologise to Made. I could never shake off the belief you were bad.

Thing is this game I was more active on making cases early in the game and following it up, so when Boogs said I was blendy I was like "what the fuck", he sealed his fate with me for that. However as civ after civ got lynched I lost all trust in anything. I lost my way a bit. Only one thing I really counted on was that Russ was Ganon.
What gave him away for me? He acted like ganon for a start. It was like he was in charge. And when he said to vote for him, that he could "take it", was when I knew.
Rob...the nights of no kills. Was one of them an attempt on me?

I felt like Russ was pretty much outing himself! And people still weren't seeing it!

That night they tried to kill Made, but Made could only be killed by an arrow.

I see you, Llama!!

Fun game!

Maaaaan I knew Llama and Elo were bad. Especially llama but no one believed me grr haha. I was pretty sure Llama knew I had a triforce and wanted to take it from me and that's why he went after me so harshly.

Sorry I was killed so early, Epi! Curse of N4 it seems. I was just getting a bit more free time when I was killed as well. I was gearing up for a massive bribe as well.

Always wanted an indy role and I got one at the worst possible time.

Nobody took my bribes, apart from Boogs. Boogs then voted who I asked him to, so I didn't even get to kill him. I suck.

zeek wrote:Sorry I was killed so early, Epi! Curse of N4 it seems. I was just getting a bit more free time when I was killed as well. I was gearing up for a massive bribe as well.

Always wanted an indy role and I got one at the worst possible time.

Nobody took my bribes, apart from Boogs. Boogs then voted who I asked him to, so I didn't even get to kill him. I suck.

I might've accepted your bribes.

You were next on my list.

(And noted, for the future )

zeek wrote:Sorry I was killed so early, Epi! Curse of N4 it seems. I was just getting a bit more free time when I was killed as well. I was gearing up for a massive bribe as well.

Always wanted an indy role and I got one at the worst possible time.

Nobody took my bribes, apart from Boogs. Boogs then voted who I asked him to, so I didn't even get to kill him. I suck.

I was absolutely convinced, until the end of the game, that SVS had been Zola and tried to bribe me to vote for her with a small amount of rupees as a test. I thought I passed with flying colors. I was wrong.










But I still won.

I figured you wouldn't accept a big bribe, but you might accept a small one and then do whatever you wanted. And then I'd murder you.





Which didn't happen, and I still lost.

Interesting fact: This is my first loss

Thanks Epi

Great game!! Now who the hell blew me up?

Bass_the_Clever wrote:Great game!! Now who the hell blew me up?

That would be me