Murder, Mayhem, and Mafia
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Why would a civ want to risk being lynched and become dead? How does that further the civ cause?Bass_the_Clever wrote:I want to duel Quinn because I think he is bad and I would love to be the one to beat him in a duel. I figured he felt the same. I don't see why he would decline my challenge unless he his scared he will flip bad in that case who wants a civ around you isn't welling to put their money where their mouth is.
I declined your challenge because I'm not going to voluntarily duel my top scum read for the sake of my pride. What would that do for anybody?Bass_the_Clever wrote:I want to duel Quinn because I think he is bad and I would love to be the one to beat him in a duel. I figured he felt the same. I don't see why he would decline my challenge unless he his scared he will flip bad in that case who wants a civ around you isn't welling to put their money where their mouth is.
I am sorry Bass, but none lf this makes sense to me. Suppose both of you are town. What does anyone have to gain by the two of you dueling? As of right now you've supplied us with 0 reason as to why you suspect Quin, and nothing about your wording suggests you have any special information. Perhaps you do. I don't know. But as of right now you have not even begun to convince me to vote for Quin, and I have no reason to vote for either of you. I also don't understand why you think anyone, town or scum, should invite votes right now. What if we send you to duel Quin and you lose? If you are town that's a completely unnecessary risk.Bass_the_Clever wrote:I want to duel Quinn because I think he is bad and I would love to be the one to beat him in a duel. I figured he felt the same. I don't see why he would decline my challenge unless he his scared he will flip bad in that case who wants a civ around you isn't welling to put their money where their mouth is.
Are you able to explain either of these suspicions?Bass_the_Clever wrote:DDL duh. I'm going to be keeping my votes the same.
But be honest what will anyone learn from my lynch? Nothing , that's what. People accuse me of being in cahoots with DDL but then says I just drove by and tried to start to bandwagons last vote. If that's the case why would I start a bandwagon on a team mate if I was mafia?Sloonei wrote:I am sorry Bass, but none lf this makes sense to me. Suppose both of you are town. What does anyone have to gain by the two of you dueling? As of right now you've supplied us with 0 reason as to why you suspect Quin, and nothing about your wording suggests you have any special information. Perhaps you do. I don't know. But as of right now you have not even begun to convince me to vote for Quin, and I have no reason to vote for either of you. I also don't understand why you think anyone, town or scum, should invite votes right now. What if we send you to duel Quin and you lose? If you are town that's a completely unnecessary risk.Bass_the_Clever wrote:I want to duel Quinn because I think he is bad and I would love to be the one to beat him in a duel. I figured he felt the same. I don't see why he would decline my challenge unless he his scared he will flip bad in that case who wants a civ around you isn't welling to put their money where their mouth is.
Who is your second suspect behind Quin?
I'll learn whether there's potential in you, DDL and nutella being teammates if you're lynched. But that's not why I'm going to vote for you. It's just an added benefit.Bass_the_Clever wrote:But be honest what will anyone learn from my lynch? Nothing , that's what. People accuse me of being in cahoots with DDL but then says I just drove by and tried to start to bandwagons last vote. If that's the case why would I start a bandwagon on a team mate if I was mafia?Sloonei wrote:I am sorry Bass, but none lf this makes sense to me. Suppose both of you are town. What does anyone have to gain by the two of you dueling? As of right now you've supplied us with 0 reason as to why you suspect Quin, and nothing about your wording suggests you have any special information. Perhaps you do. I don't know. But as of right now you have not even begun to convince me to vote for Quin, and I have no reason to vote for either of you. I also don't understand why you think anyone, town or scum, should invite votes right now. What if we send you to duel Quin and you lose? If you are town that's a completely unnecessary risk.Bass_the_Clever wrote:I want to duel Quinn because I think he is bad and I would love to be the one to beat him in a duel. I figured he felt the same. I don't see why he would decline my challenge unless he his scared he will flip bad in that case who wants a civ around you isn't welling to put their money where their mouth is.
Who is your second suspect behind Quin?
You're your own most vocal opponent right now.Bass_the_Clever wrote:But be honest what will anyone learn from my lynch? Nothing , that's what. People accuse me of being in cahoots with DDL but then says I just drove by and tried to start to bandwagons last vote. If that's the case why would I start a bandwagon on a team mate if I was mafia?Sloonei wrote:I am sorry Bass, but none lf this makes sense to me. Suppose both of you are town. What does anyone have to gain by the two of you dueling? As of right now you've supplied us with 0 reason as to why you suspect Quin, and nothing about your wording suggests you have any special information. Perhaps you do. I don't know. But as of right now you have not even begun to convince me to vote for Quin, and I have no reason to vote for either of you. I also don't understand why you think anyone, town or scum, should invite votes right now. What if we send you to duel Quin and you lose? If you are town that's a completely unnecessary risk.Bass_the_Clever wrote:I want to duel Quinn because I think he is bad and I would love to be the one to beat him in a duel. I figured he felt the same. I don't see why he would decline my challenge unless he his scared he will flip bad in that case who wants a civ around you isn't welling to put their money where their mouth is.
Who is your second suspect behind Quin?
This makes more sense. Before it appeared that you were just singling Quin out. I do not know what kind of suspicion he has drawn in the thread throughout the game, but in the case of DDL I can assume that he would be left alone by either scum team because he's drawn a fair amount of attention himself.Bass_the_Clever wrote:The best way to describe why I want those two lynched is because I try and play with my gut and looking at every angle. I try to put myself in the mafia teams shoes. The way the mafia has played so far leads me to believe that they would want to kill both of those two before anyone else right now because Quinn has be acting super town and DDL has been one of , if not the top poster for sometime. They fit the pattern of who the mafia have been killing and yet they aren't dead. So that makes me think it's because they are the ones doing the killing. There is no sure fire way to find scum but that's the way I'm playing this game.
You think I'd establish a routine of killing high posters even though I'd wind up being the only one left?Bass_the_Clever wrote:The best way to describe why I want those two lynched is because I try and play with my gut and looking at every angle. I try to put myself in the mafia teams shoes. The way the mafia has played so far leads me to believe that they would want to kill both of those two before anyone else right now because Quinn has be acting super town and DDL has been one of , if not the top poster for sometime. They fit the pattern of who the mafia have been killing and yet they aren't dead. So that makes me think it's because they are the ones doing the killing. There is no sure fire way to find scum but that's the way I'm playing this game.
I've been on the fence about Scotty at first he fit the pattern that was catching us baddies at the beginning all the joking and silliness but him quieting down makes me think he it town trying to avoid getting lynched for talking to much. Nutella on the other hand hasn't even been on my radar if I'm being honest and that might be because I don't remember anything she has said really. That could be my fault because I might have skimmed over her stuff or she is just saying enough to look civvies enough to keep flying low.Sloonei wrote:This makes more sense. Before it appeared that you were just singling Quin out. I do not know what kind of suspicion he has drawn in the thread throughout the game, but in the case of DDL I can assume that he would be left alone by either scum team because he's drawn a fair amount of attention himself.Bass_the_Clever wrote:The best way to describe why I want those two lynched is because I try and play with my gut and looking at every angle. I try to put myself in the mafia teams shoes. The way the mafia has played so far leads me to believe that they would want to kill both of those two before anyone else right now because Quinn has be acting super town and DDL has been one of , if not the top poster for sometime. They fit the pattern of who the mafia have been killing and yet they aren't dead. So that makes me think it's because they are the ones doing the killing. There is no sure fire way to find scum but that's the way I'm playing this game.
What makes you go with DDL and Quin over Nutella? Or Scotty, who was near the top in terms of activity before his two days of silence?
Quin wrote:You think I'd establish a routine of killing high posters even though I'd wind up being the only one left?Bass_the_Clever wrote:The best way to describe why I want those two lynched is because I try and play with my gut and looking at every angle. I try to put myself in the mafia teams shoes. The way the mafia has played so far leads me to believe that they would want to kill both of those two before anyone else right now because Quinn has be acting super town and DDL has been one of , if not the top poster for sometime. They fit the pattern of who the mafia have been killing and yet they aren't dead. So that makes me think it's because they are the ones doing the killing. There is no sure fire way to find scum but that's the way I'm playing this game.
No, Bass.Bass_the_Clever wrote:Quin wrote:You think I'd establish a routine of killing high posters even though I'd wind up being the only one left?Bass_the_Clever wrote:The best way to describe why I want those two lynched is because I try and play with my gut and looking at every angle. I try to put myself in the mafia teams shoes. The way the mafia has played so far leads me to believe that they would want to kill both of those two before anyone else right now because Quinn has be acting super town and DDL has been one of , if not the top poster for sometime. They fit the pattern of who the mafia have been killing and yet they aren't dead. So that makes me think it's because they are the ones doing the killing. There is no sure fire way to find scum but that's the way I'm playing this game.
Why not? It's wifom .
Scotty claims to have been silenced for two days straight. Does this affect the way you see him at all?Bass_the_Clever wrote:I've been on the fence about Scotty at first he fit the pattern that was catching us baddies at the beginning all the joking and silliness but him quieting down makes me think he it town trying to avoid getting lynched for talking to much. Nutella on the other hand hasn't even been on my radar if I'm being honest and that might be because I don't remember anything she has said really. That could be my fault because I might have skimmed over her stuff or she is just saying enough to look civvies enough to keep flying low.Sloonei wrote:This makes more sense. Before it appeared that you were just singling Quin out. I do not know what kind of suspicion he has drawn in the thread throughout the game, but in the case of DDL I can assume that he would be left alone by either scum team because he's drawn a fair amount of attention himself.Bass_the_Clever wrote:The best way to describe why I want those two lynched is because I try and play with my gut and looking at every angle. I try to put myself in the mafia teams shoes. The way the mafia has played so far leads me to believe that they would want to kill both of those two before anyone else right now because Quinn has be acting super town and DDL has been one of , if not the top poster for sometime. They fit the pattern of who the mafia have been killing and yet they aren't dead. So that makes me think it's because they are the ones doing the killing. There is no sure fire way to find scum but that's the way I'm playing this game.
What makes you go with DDL and Quin over Nutella? Or Scotty, who was near the top in terms of activity before his two days of silence?
Your explanation:Quin wrote:I've answered thisSloonei wrote:People who find Bass suspicious for volunteering to duel: Why? What do you suppose is his baddie motivation?
To which I repllied:Quin wrote:3) You expressed interest in duelling. My initial reaction to this is that it's a 'Let me prove how town I am by volunteering to be lynched' scum tactic. I see no reason to abandon that train of thought.
My point: Volunteering for a duel has not always been a scum tactic in this game. What about the way Bass is doing it makes you think he is doing it for town cred?Sloonei wrote:We've had a number of people express such in interest in this game. I do not know how they have all turned out. MP flipped bad. CapsFan was not. But there have been others, I think.
More people should post.Sloonei wrote:What are your non-Bass thoughts?
I still have not looked at Mac. What can you tell me about him?Quin wrote:More people should post.Sloonei wrote:What are your non-Bass thoughts?
MacDougall is most definitely not a turban, and not likely to be a nanman.
nutella needs to respond to my earlier question.
I have no other strong thoughts right now.
When he accused MP of buddying on Day 1, MP's reaction wasn't something I could feasibly expect to be premeditated in BTSC. It was too emotional. He has a history of pursuing a lot of 'sideliners' - people who are under the radar right now.Sloonei wrote:I still have not looked at Mac. What can you tell me about him?Quin wrote:More people should post.Sloonei wrote:What are your non-Bass thoughts?
MacDougall is most definitely not a turban, and not likely to be a nanman.
nutella needs to respond to my earlier question.
I have no other strong thoughts right now.
Because we have no substantial reason to suspect them. It's natural, and wise, for us to dissect the content that is in the thread, so it's only natural that we focus on the people who are making posts. I agree that it's annoying to have so many inactives in a game. But they're all complete shots in the dark, if we want to pursue them. That might not be a terrible idea. I think we've already done it a few times.Bass_the_Clever wrote:Why are the people not posting getting a pass in the lynches ?
The thing about voting to people who are scum reads is one is going to walk away with treasure. If it's an inactive who gets it we don't have to worry as much about it.Sloonei wrote:Because we have no substantial reason to suspect them. It's natural, and wise, for us to dissect the content that is in the thread, so it's only natural that we focus on the people who are making posts. I agree that it's annoying to have so many inactives in a game. But they're all complete shots in the dark, if we want to pursue them. That might not be a terrible idea. I think we've already done it a few times.Bass_the_Clever wrote:Why are the people not posting getting a pass in the lynches ?
Sorry, didn't see this until you mentioned you had asked me something. I posted that a while ago so I don't remember my exact thought process, but it just didn't make sense to me for bass to be a YT. Maybe because of the killing low posters thing, and maybe because I can't see him being MP's teammate.Quin wrote:
Apologies for not highlighting or it or anything, I'm phone posting - but why do you not expect bass to be a yellow turban?
I mostly agree with this post, but I am significantly more suspicious of Bass now than I was earlier today. His responses have been unsatisfying especially in regards to why he singled out Quin and not DDL -- he has now said DDL is his other vote as if it was obvious, now that I have brought it up multiple times, yet he has never directly responded to any of my multiple questions to him.Sloonei wrote:I do think there is merit to Bass's line of suspicion. It's fair to speculate that a vocal player alive this late in the game might be left alive this long because they're the ones doing the killing. BUT we also have two scum teams, and it's also never a surefire thing that scums will just pick off the most vocal players one-by-one. There is more strategy to the game than that. That said, I understand where he is coming from and, based on the tone of his posts, I feel like it is coming from a genuine place.
That said, I also am still town-reading Quin, based on tone and content of his posts throughout the game. I am not inclined to vote for either of them right now.
I wondered based on my need to ask you this in the first place. I took the 'I just don't see it' part of your ISO as a soft-defence for him. I think some of your more recent posts toward him are making me doubt myself. Nothing comes to mind right now that would make me think you and Luffy are teammates, though.nutella wrote:Sorry, didn't see this until you mentioned you had asked me something. I posted that a while ago so I don't remember my exact thought process, but it just didn't make sense to me for bass to be a YT. Maybe because of the killing low posters thing, and maybe because I can't see him being MP's teammate.Quin wrote:
Apologies for not highlighting or it or anything, I'm phone posting - but why do you not expect bass to be a yellow turban?
Also just saw you say something about wondering if I am DDL and Bass's teammate. What the heck is up with that?
Who did I vote for last lynch? The reason I'm not pushing the same thing on DSL IS because I understand why he isn't being killed. If I were bad I would keep him around because he is drawing heat and will probably end up dueling.nutella wrote:I mostly agree with this post, but I am significantly more suspicious of Bass now than I was earlier today. His responses have been unsatisfying especially in regards to why he singled out Quin and not DDL -- he has now said DDL is his other vote as if it was obvious, now that I have brought it up multiple times, yet he has never directly responded to any of my multiple questions to him.Sloonei wrote:I do think there is merit to Bass's line of suspicion. It's fair to speculate that a vocal player alive this late in the game might be left alive this long because they're the ones doing the killing. BUT we also have two scum teams, and it's also never a surefire thing that scums will just pick off the most vocal players one-by-one. There is more strategy to the game than that. That said, I understand where he is coming from and, based on the tone of his posts, I feel like it is coming from a genuine place.
That said, I also am still town-reading Quin, based on tone and content of his posts throughout the game. I am not inclined to vote for either of them right now.
No, I didn't say that. Days 4 and 6. Mac claims to have been silenced day 5. It just so happens my day 5 was incapacitated IRL.Sloonei wrote:Scotty claims to have been silenced for two days straight. Does this affect the way you see him at all?Bass_the_Clever wrote:I've been on the fence about Scotty at first he fit the pattern that was catching us baddies at the beginning all the joking and silliness but him quieting down makes me think he it town trying to avoid getting lynched for talking to much. Nutella on the other hand hasn't even been on my radar if I'm being honest and that might be because I don't remember anything she has said really. That could be my fault because I might have skimmed over her stuff or she is just saying enough to look civvies enough to keep flying low.Sloonei wrote:This makes more sense. Before it appeared that you were just singling Quin out. I do not know what kind of suspicion he has drawn in the thread throughout the game, but in the case of DDL I can assume that he would be left alone by either scum team because he's drawn a fair amount of attention himself.Bass_the_Clever wrote:The best way to describe why I want those two lynched is because I try and play with my gut and looking at every angle. I try to put myself in the mafia teams shoes. The way the mafia has played so far leads me to believe that they would want to kill both of those two before anyone else right now because Quinn has be acting super town and DDL has been one of , if not the top poster for sometime. They fit the pattern of who the mafia have been killing and yet they aren't dead. So that makes me think it's because they are the ones doing the killing. There is no sure fire way to find scum but that's the way I'm playing this game.
What makes you go with DDL and Quin over Nutella? Or Scotty, who was near the top in terms of activity before his two days of silence?
And Nutella has definitely been one of the strongest presences in this game, IMO. There's plenty of content there to go over.
I can see if it were a theme that Simon was interested in, he would want to pick his role and it may be a bad role. But I don't see that happening here.Golden wrote:I'm certain he never fully randomises, but does that mean he would never make Simon bad or Simon would never want to be bad? Do you think it very likely that Simon would roll town in an Epi game?Elohcin wrote:@Golden....I am not sure about this time with so many players, but I don't think Epi ever randomizes his roles like many hosts do. I think that is part of the fun as being a host.
and I think I'll be pretty occupied for most of the time). Due to my flight this afternoon I'll have to vote a couple hours before the deadline; at this point it seems likely to go to DDL and quite possibly Bass.This.Bass_the_Clever wrote:EPI what happens to a treasure if someone is night killed or loses A duel?
Why did no one tell me how sloppy my writing was last night? Rereading this post just now was painful.nutella wrote:I mostly agree with this post, but I am significantly more suspicious of Bass now than I was earlier today. His responses have been unsatisfying especially in regards to why he singled out Quin and not DDL -- he has now said DDL is his other vote as if it was obvious, now that I have brought it up multiple times, yet he has never directly responded to any of my multiple questions to him.Sloonei wrote:I do think there is merit to Bass's line of suspicion. It's fair to speculate that a vocal player alive this late in the game might be left alive this long because they're the ones doing the killing. BUT we also have two scum teams, and it's also never a surefire thing that scums will just pick off the most vocal players one-by-one. There is more strategy to the game than that. That said, I understand where he is coming from and, based on the tone of his posts, I feel like it is coming from a genuine place.
That said, I also am still town-reading Quin, based on tone and content of his posts throughout the game. I am not inclined to vote for either of them right now.
No vote me against DDL.Golden wrote:I'm townreading bass too. I won't be voting that way.
Scotty said he would get back to responding to my points, but he never did.
Elo's points about simon have led me to drop my simon suspicion.
I'm voting for scotty and DDL.