The Syndicate

I know you guys have had some criticism of EOD non-attendance, just remember that more and more of us are getting locked up by Dizzy, and Tony, did you say it's all decoded now?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jun 12, 2020 10:40 pm How is it next level tunneling? It's just me suspecting you and trying to stop other people giving you a free pass lol. You need to be dead. If we endgame with you and lose it'll be the stupidest fucking thing ever.

You should prepare for my flip to be town, but I'm done discussing it unless you have something you want me to address. Let's try to solve instead.

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Jun 12, 2020 10:40 pm I know you guys have had some criticism of EOD non-attendance, just remember that more and more of us are getting locked up by Dizzy, and Tony, did you say it's all decoded now?

Welcome back!

Hell dude I don't even see you solving the game. You just came out near EOD and pushed "not you" wherever you could find traction and oh look a town died.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jun 12, 2020 10:41 pm Hell dude I don't even see you solving the game. You just came out near EOD and pushed "not you" wherever you could find traction and oh look a town died.

This is hilarious.

I'm actually laughing IRL right now.

Mac, I'd love to solve with you. Talk to me about someone. 112, Funnygurl, whoever you want.

I'll be back later though, I need to step away and background process how that all went down.

Rainbow!

Okay I'm doing this a paragraph at a time just to have it out there. I have am idea of what we need to do to neutralize dizzy or to control dizzy but I'm still working out the details. Here's the last paragraph though

"You cannot be lynched on day one, and you cannot be killed by the mafia until you have either contributed to the lynching of a member of the mafia or until you have locked up a member of the mafia. You will not be told if you have locked up a member of the mafia."

This is exactly what I wish mafia always were

just sitting here with a google doc and a python program open watching Ozark and unscrambling phrases

we probably shouldn't have unlocked door 3 for dizzy is my guess

You have my decoding in your notes, right?

Yeah I'm using yours as a basis. Let me know if you get anything else done or I can share what I have right now, but it's super fragmented

Basically my current plan is to unlock door 8 and then see what happens

One thing I need input on: the last two sentences of paragraph three:

Players locked ~~~~~~ ~h~~~ ~~~~ will be told to post for the first twenty-four hours of the day phase and for the first twelve hours of the night phase. Players locked ~~ ~h~~~ ~~~~ will be told to cast their vote during the first twenty-four hours of the the phase.

LC had up in as the two letter word but there's no u replaced in so that's inaccurate. I have no idea what the phrase ~h~~~ ~~~~ is. Any ideas? Could be something like three days, but I don't know how to make the sentences both coherent then

The phrase ~~ ~h~~~ ~~~~ appears elsewhere which is why I ask

Dizzy if you tell me I'll help you fulfill your win con

You can't lock me up I don't think so I'm not particularly worried

okay duh it's "their room". Offer rescinded.

Ironically the only time LC had their room in his solve it was incorrect. Weh.

Third paragraph:

Locking someone in their room will prevent them from being killed by the mafia, as well as having any night roles used by or against them. They will also be removed from the lynch poll for the duration of their stay inside their room. Players locked inside their room will be told to post for the first twenty-four hours of the day phase and for the first twelve hours of the night phase. Players locked in their room will be told to cast their vote during the first twenty-four hours of the the phase.

Half way.

roles is probably power but that's irrelevant

The first two paragraphs are proving more difficult. Here's what I've got right now, in sum:

Your role is an independent third party. In this game, each player has ~~~~ ~~~~~~~~ ~ ~~~~ ~u~~~~. You ~~l~ keep your ~~~~ ~u~~~~, and you ~~~ ~h~ ~~l~ ~l~~~~ ~~ ~h~ ~~~~ ~h~~ k~~~~ which ~~~~ ~u~~~~ h~~ ~~~~ ~~~~~~~~ ~~ ~h~~. Your wincon is ~~ ~~~ ~h~~~ ~l~~~~~ locked ~~~~~~ ~h~~~ ~~~~~ ~~ ~h~ ~~~~ ~~~~. Each night you may choose to lock a player of your choice inside their room. If their room has already been unlocked by the night poll, then you will not be able to lock their room for the remainder of the game. If their room has not been unlocked yet, then they will be locked inside their room until ~~~ ~f ~h~~~ ~h~~~~ h~~~~~~.

If their room is unlocked by the night poll, then they will ~~~~~~ the (room). If you are lynched or nightkilled, it will trigger a (we)l(ding) ~f ~~~~~~ ~~~ ~~ their room, killing them. If you ~~~ ~~l~ ~~ lock ~h~~~ ~~~~l~ ~~~~~~ ~h~~~ ~~~~~, ~h~~ ~~~~~~ ~~~ ~~ll ~~ ~~l~~~~~ ~~ each ~f ~h~~~ ~~~~~, killing ~h~~~ ~h~~~ ~l~~~~~ and fulfilling your wincon. If your door (becomes) lockable ~~ ~h~~ ~~~~, then you will be able to lock yourself inside, ~~~k~~~ your name from the poll. If your door has been unlocked by the night poll, then you ~u~~ ~~~~~~ ~~ ~h~ ~~~~, ~~~~~~~ ~~ The Keymaster. If this occurs, then you will be able to ~~~~~~~ locking one player in their room each night.

Locking someone in their room will prevent them from being killed by the mafia, as well as having any night power used by or against them. They will also be removed from the lynch poll for the duration of their stay inside their room. Players locked inside their room will be told to post for the first twenty-four hours of the day phase and for the first twelve hours of the night phase. Players locked in their room will be told to cast their vote during the first twenty-four hours of the the phase.

You cannot be lynched on day one, and you cannot be killed by the mafia until you have either contributed to the lynching of a member of the mafia or until you have locked up a member of the mafia. You will not be told if you have locked up a member of the mafia.



you can check that against the original if you think something doesn't make sense

I regret ignoring dizzy now

it gives me something to do though

Silver linings!

Okay, so if Dizzy locks one more person up, all three of them die but Dizzy wins is my understanding of the untranslated stuff. I think the way to do this is to force Dizzy to lock up a member of the POE and blocking Dizzy's progress otherwise.

the problem is I still haven't reasonably figured out why Nanook wasn't able to be locked up if the doors correspond to players alphabetically, since Nanook is the eleventh player and the eleventh door hasn't been unlocked.

Idk. I’m a weird target for protection so I assume not that...offensive JK maybe? Or an anti-key master?

I have completely given up on the mafia part of this game. I assume Dizzy was lying about locking you up.

Seems like the safest assumption tbh

Your role is an independent third party. In this game, each player has ~~~~ ~~~~~~~~ ~ ~~~~ ~u~~~~. You ~~l~ keep your ~~~~ ~u~~~~, and you ~~~ ~h~ ~~l~ ~l~~~~ ~~ ~h~ ~~~~ ~h~~ k~~~~ which ~~~~ ~u~~~~ h~~ ~~~~ ~~~~~~~~ ~~ ~h~~. Your wincon is ~~ ~~~ ~h~~~ ~l~~~~~ locked ~~~~~~ ~h~~~ ~~~~~ ~~ ~h~ ~~~~ ~~~~. Each night you may choose to lock a player of your choice inside their room. If their room has already been unlocked by the night poll, then you will not be able to lock their room for the remainder of the game. If their room has not been unlocked yet, then they will be locked inside their room until ~~~ ~f ~h~~~ ~h~~~~ h~~~~~~ {I think basically something like one of the following conditions is met}.

If their room is unlocked by the night poll, then they will escape the room. If you are lynched or nightkilled, it will trigger a (we)l(ding) ~f ~~~~~~ ~~~ ~~ {do something flavor} their room, killing them. If you are able to lock three people inside their rooms, ~h~~ ~~~~~~ ~~~ ~~ll ~~ ~~l~~~~~ ~~ each ~f ~h~~~ ~~~~~ {a bunch of flavor stuff}, killing those three players and fulfilling your wincon. If your door (becomes) lockable ~~ ~h~~ ~~~~, then you will be able to lock yourself inside, ~~~k~~~ {removing} your name from the poll. If your door has been unlocked by the night poll, then you ~u~~ ~~~~~~ ~~ ~h~ ~~~~, ~~~~~~~ ~~ {some extra power} The Keymaster. If this occurs, then you will be able to ~~~~~~~ locking one player in their room each night.

Locking someone in their room will prevent them from being killed by the mafia, as well as having any night power used by or against them. They will also be removed from the lynch poll for the duration of their stay inside their room. Players locked inside their room will be told to post for the first twenty-four hours of the day phase and for the first twelve hours of the night phase. Players locked in their room will be told to cast their vote during the first twenty-four hours of the the phase.

You cannot be lynched on day one, and you cannot be killed by the mafia until you have either contributed to the lynching of a member of the mafia or until you have locked up a member of the mafia. You will not be told if you have locked up a member of the mafia.


oh I have the second flavor ha

"then poison gas will be released in each of their rooms"

sorry LC it don't look good

"~h~~ ~~~~~~ ~~~ ~~ll ~~ ~~l~~~~~ ~~ ~~ch ~f ~h~~~ ~~~~~"

to

"then poison gas will be released in each of their rooms"

in case anyone wants the progress meter. This is like a puzzle solving blog.

Yep definitely regret ignoring dizzy

okay [mention]Dyslexicon[/mention], I have most of your role. So here's the deal. We can probably stop you from winning, but that might take town down along for the ride and I don't want to deal with that. So, here's a list of "demands":

1) reveal the rest of your power, if I haven't figured it out by the time you get around to it. I dunno if you need clearance from g-man for exact language, but you should at least be able to paraphrase in a way that's verifiable by what we have.

2) lock up a player agreed upon by the town tonight

If you do these things, you may exit the game in peace. Sound good?

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Jun 13, 2020 5:40 am okay @Dyslexicon, I have most of your role. So here's the deal. We can probably stop you from winning, but that might take town down along for the ride and I don't want to deal with that. So, here's a list of "demands":

1) reveal the rest of your power, if I haven't figured it out by the time you get around to it. I dunno if you need clearance from g-man for exact language, but you should at least be able to paraphrase in a way that's verifiable by what we have.

2) lock up a player agreed upon by the town tonight

If you do these things, you may exit the game in peace. Sound good?

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Jun 13, 2020 5:02 am Okay, so if Dizzy locks one more person up, all three of them die but Dizzy wins is my understanding of the untranslated stuff. I think the way to do this is to force Dizzy to lock up a member of the POE and blocking Dizzy's progress otherwise.

I was going to try to do that anyway actually. I wanted to make it 2 town and 1 scum, which would be the most neutral/fair to each side.
And I didn't lie about trying to lock up Nanook. It just didn't work. That's why I haven't reached my wincon yet.
The only thing I lied about this game was being unlynchable. And that was only a half lie.

Anyway, some of you should give me a reasonable PoE and I'll pick from that.
LC and Soneji will die no matter what you do.
It doesn't matter if you waste a lynch on me or not, the result will be the same, only you will actively guarantee you don't get mafia lol. And you probably shouldn't do that, cause that's like against town's wincon.

Anyway, I'll pick some PoE player on one condition: We don't unlock any doors this night. That will actually help you too.

can we use dizzy to arbitarily prolong the game until all mafia members are locked up at which point dizzy kills them simultaneously?

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Jun 13, 2020 7:15 am can we use dizzy to arbitarily prolong the game until all mafia members are locked up at which point dizzy kills them simultaneously?

No, that actually won't work.

cause once the doors are unlocked we can’t lock people up again?

Or because we don’t really know how to unlock the doors efficiently

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Jun 13, 2020 7:28 am cause once the doors are unlocked we can’t lock people up again?

Pretty much.

And also because mafia kills people. We’d need to make sure we could have at least scum locked up first before we could even try, and problematically we wouldn’t know until the day after.

I’ll work out a table later but I don’t think it will work. Dizzy if you lock up someone is their action stopped that night? That is, if you lock up someone who has submitted the factional kill on the same night you lock them up, does the kill go through?

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Jun 13, 2020 7:35 am And also because mafia kills people. We’d need to make sure we could have at least scum locked up first before we could even try, and problematically we wouldn’t know until the day after.

And also, if I lock up one more player, I will disappear from the game. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I think you'll just have to hope for the best and do better to lynch scum.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Jun 13, 2020 7:36 am I’ll work out a table later but I don’t think it will work. Dizzy if you lock up someone is their action stopped that night? That is, if you lock up someone who has submitted the factional kill on the same night you lock them up, does the kill go through?

I don't know actually. Depends on the action order I guess.

Something to consider. Right now the poll is tied, no door will be unlocked, Dizzy will lock up a player and be removed from the game along with those three. Additionally, there’ll be a nightkill. That’ll leave 4 players. Worst case, game over. Best case, game over. In between case, we’re at mylo. Dizzy, do you know if your door has been unlocked?