The Syndicate

Hally wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 2:22 am ok i have to sleep i’m so tired here have a list

town:
mac
tutuu
alison

town lean:
odd
tim
spf
dizzy
wilgy
poison
radishes
dya
herm
samu

idk/poe/whatever:
nanook
nut
ted
sprit
colin
fallen/jules
lc
jpic

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 10:44 am juliets continues to be town.

sprityo's beetlejuice is noted.

If nutella is scum what the hell are her buddies doing? Are they just leaving her to twist in the wind when there are viable counterwagons to push? I'm getting cold feet.

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 10:44 am juliets continues to be town.

sprityo's beetlejuice is noted.

If nutella is scum what the hell are her buddies doing? Are they just leaving her to twist in the wind when there are viable counterwagons to push? I'm getting cold feet.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 10:42 am Hasn't evolved via reading since I logged off yesterday, but here's my list after sleeping on it:

Feel good about Mac, Hally, and Ted

Feel bad about Tim, Alison, tutuu, Nook and Hazelnut.

I don't recall why I felt that way about Tim, but something was off.

Nook and Ali were in a strange bucket of (maybe TMI) from them, the counter argument being "TMI may not exist in this game as scum may be hunting the rogues."

Tutuu felt off and angling was weird.

I don't remember what red flagged me on Tim.

Hazelnut felt detached.

sprityo wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 10:44 am

Hally wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 2:22 am ok i have to sleep i’m so tired here have a list

town:
mac
tutuu
alison

town lean:
odd
tim
spf
dizzy
wilgy
poison
radishes
dya
herm
samu

idk/poe/whatever:
nanook
nut
ted
sprit
colin
fallen/jules
lc
jpic

This looks like a list of:

My friends
Not my friends but people who’ve quiet or nice
People who are not nice and I dont like how they talk

Samusamu wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 10:46 am

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 10:42 am Hasn't evolved via reading since I logged off yesterday, but here's my list after sleeping on it:

Feel good about Mac, Hally, and Ted

Feel bad about Tim, Alison, tutuu, Nook and Hazelnut.

I don't recall why I felt that way about Tim, but something was off.

Nook and Ali were in a strange bucket of (maybe TMI) from them, the counter argument being "TMI may not exist in this game as scum may be hunting the rogues."

Tutuu felt off and angling was weird.

I don't remember what red flagged me on Tim.

Hazelnut felt detached.

This is a post perfectly structured for someone who rand mafia.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 10:56 am

Samusamu wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 10:46 am

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 10:42 am Hasn't evolved via reading since I logged off yesterday, but here's my list after sleeping on it:

Feel good about Mac, Hally, and Ted

Feel bad about Tim, Alison, tutuu, Nook and Hazelnut.

I don't recall why I felt that way about Tim, but something was off.

Nook and Ali were in a strange bucket of (maybe TMI) from them, the counter argument being "TMI may not exist in this game as scum may be hunting the rogues."

Tutuu felt off and angling was weird.

I don't remember what red flagged me on Tim.

Hazelnut felt detached.

This is a post perfectly structured for someone who rand mafia.

You disapprove?

tedxtr wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 10:54 am Theory towards alison :

If nutella is a wolf, then the wolves aren’t doing anything because they have been busy doing their own thing, solving on their island or being narrowed down on a person at a time.

Or they have said nothing about her.

Or they just don’t have other options to look to.

Don’t dive in wifom until you get the flip. Flip wolves and then discover what a specific flip means.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 10:45 am

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 10:44 am juliets continues to be town.

sprityo's beetlejuice is noted.

If nutella is scum what the hell are her buddies doing? Are they just leaving her to twist in the wind when there are viable counterwagons to push? I'm getting cold feet.

Because she's your teammate?

tedxtr wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 10:46 am

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 10:44 am juliets continues to be town.

sprityo's beetlejuice is noted.

If nutella is scum what the hell are her buddies doing? Are they just leaving her to twist in the wind when there are viable counterwagons to push? I'm getting cold feet.

You shouldn’t imo.

If you couldn’t find wolves early it means that they let town do their thing and didn’t want to interfere much, why would they be doing that right now?

Samusamu wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 10:46 am

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 10:42 am Hasn't evolved via reading since I logged off yesterday, but here's my list after sleeping on it:

Feel good about Mac, Hally, and Ted

Feel bad about Tim, Alison, tutuu, Nook and Hazelnut.

I don't recall why I felt that way about Tim, but something was off.

Nook and Ali were in a strange bucket of (maybe TMI) from them, the counter argument being "TMI may not exist in this game as scum may be hunting the rogues."

Tutuu felt off and angling was weird.

I don't remember what red flagged me on Tim.

Hazelnut felt detached.

This is a post perfectly structured for someone who rand mafia.

tedxtr wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 10:54 am Theory towards alison :

If nutella is a wolf, then the wolves aren’t doing anything because they have been busy doing their own thing, solving on their island or being narrowed down on a person at a time.

Or they have said nothing about her.

Or they just don’t have other options to look to.

Don’t dive in wifom until you get the flip. Flip wolves and then discover what a specific flip means.

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 11:03 am

Samusamu wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 10:46 am

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 10:42 am Hasn't evolved via reading since I logged off yesterday, but here's my list after sleeping on it:

Feel good about Mac, Hally, and Ted

Feel bad about Tim, Alison, tutuu, Nook and Hazelnut.

I don't recall why I felt that way about Tim, but something was off.

Nook and Ali were in a strange bucket of (maybe TMI) from them, the counter argument being "TMI may not exist in this game as scum may be hunting the rogues."

Tutuu felt off and angling was weird.

I don't remember what red flagged me on Tim.

Hazelnut felt detached.

This is a post perfectly structured for someone who rand mafia.

Good take. Still think Wilgy is town by a hair.

Samusamu wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 11:07 am Will u say of yourself that u have a big ego?

Hally wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 11:08 am okay i caught up. so like, i’m really still having a hard time caring about this game. i think because alison and mac are doing all the work. they’re lock town to me and i trust that their combined reads are good and i mindmeld on a lot of them. so i’m happy with them leading and calling the shots here. and i don’t feel much need to assert myself for as long as that continues to be true

i’m happy nut has a wagon. i don’t think she’s town. the way she’s making reads and responding to the suspicion on her is very off from her town game. i really have no reservations yeeting her today and her wagon looks clean as hell to me. so we should just yeet her. sorry, nut

i don’t get why spf is being sr. i mean, she could be scum? i’m sure her scum game is as good as tutuu says it is. but i don’t see anything scummy from spf at all. i think she’s been pretty towny. and she’s not a player i’m ever going to yeet D1 because when the player list is smaller and she has more content to work with, her insight will be invaluable and i think she’ll clear herself more definitively. so i have zero interest in going there today

jpic is like... i don’t. i don’t really care about sorting him. gth i say town because he’s really letting his teammates down here if scum and i do think scum probably makes some effort here. but jpic isn’t end gaming. he’s either getting yeeted or vig’d or something at some point if he continues to play this way so i think he just self-resolves

i don’t wanna yeet ted today. i don’t know why. i don’t know how to read him. his scum range is really good ime. but he’s actually doing stuff that seems towny so he can stay

i don’t want to yeet jules today either. if what mac is saying about her is true, he’s correct that she isn’t the kind of player you yeet D1. players who don’t bus and can clear themselves off scum flips are self-resolving. and i have no issues with jules’ posts so far. no reason to jump the gun there

if someone wants thoughts on anyone else, just ping me and ask

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 11:14 am @people who still scumread Hally: I don't think wolf Hally comes into the thread and just goes "yep, Alison and Mac have it handled. I'll just sheep everything they say and do." I think they'd feel obligated to try to use their position in the towncore to strongarm people, push narratives and agendas, and generally try to power wolf. It is difficult for me to see Hally getting into a position of being consensus townread and then just doing nothing with it if they were a wolf. It is also difficult for me to see wolf Hally letting power town call all the shots.

Possibly objections to this argument:

a) Maybe Hally wants to quietly kill you at night and take over!

- Not in this threadstate. I'm certain me and Mac will eat lead soon, but when we do, tutuu and ted will step up, and if/when they die, juliets and Master Radishes will. There are too many cleared townies to kill all of them. If Hally is wolf, they have to take control, and they've shown no inclination to do this at any point in time.

b) Maybe Hally is fine with letting you do whatever you want because they're convinced you'll lead town down the wrong path!

I'd like to think they have enough respect for me, Mac and tutuu's town play to at least feel obligated to guard against the possibility that we won't find the solve with such a strong towncore.

Samusamu wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 11:15 am

Hally wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 11:08 am okay i caught up. so like, i’m really still having a hard time caring about this game. i think because alison and mac are doing all the work. they’re lock town to me and i trust that their combined reads are good and i mindmeld on a lot of them. so i’m happy with them leading and calling the shots here. and i don’t feel much need to assert myself for as long as that continues to be true

i’m happy nut has a wagon. i don’t think she’s town. the way she’s making reads and responding to the suspicion on her is very off from her town game. i really have no reservations yeeting her today and her wagon looks clean as hell to me. so we should just yeet her. sorry, nut

i don’t get why spf is being sr. i mean, she could be scum? i’m sure her scum game is as good as tutuu says it is. but i don’t see anything scummy from spf at all. i think she’s been pretty towny. and she’s not a player i’m ever going to yeet D1 because when the player list is smaller and she has more content to work with, her insight will be invaluable and i think she’ll clear herself more definitively. so i have zero interest in going there today

jpic is like... i don’t. i don’t really care about sorting him. gth i say town because he’s really letting his teammates down here if scum and i do think scum probably makes some effort here. but jpic isn’t end gaming. he’s either getting yeeted or vig’d or something at some point if he continues to play this way so i think he just self-resolves

i don’t wanna yeet ted today. i don’t know why. i don’t know how to read him. his scum range is really good ime. but he’s actually doing stuff that seems towny so he can stay

i don’t want to yeet jules today either. if what mac is saying about her is true, he’s correct that she isn’t the kind of player you yeet D1. players who don’t bus and can clear themselves off scum flips are self-resolving. and i have no issues with jules’ posts so far. no reason to jump the gun there

if someone wants thoughts on anyone else, just ping me and ask

I want a Radishes meta read.

tedxtr wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 11:17 am Wow all these compliments I’m getting for my wolf game

I know what’s happening, this is a conspiracy

Hally wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 11:26 am

Samusamu wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 11:15 am

Hally wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 11:08 am okay i caught up. so like, i’m really still having a hard time caring about this game. i think because alison and mac are doing all the work. they’re lock town to me and i trust that their combined reads are good and i mindmeld on a lot of them. so i’m happy with them leading and calling the shots here. and i don’t feel much need to assert myself for as long as that continues to be true

i’m happy nut has a wagon. i don’t think she’s town. the way she’s making reads and responding to the suspicion on her is very off from her town game. i really have no reservations yeeting her today and her wagon looks clean as hell to me. so we should just yeet her. sorry, nut

i don’t get why spf is being sr. i mean, she could be scum? i’m sure her scum game is as good as tutuu says it is. but i don’t see anything scummy from spf at all. i think she’s been pretty towny. and she’s not a player i’m ever going to yeet D1 because when the player list is smaller and she has more content to work with, her insight will be invaluable and i think she’ll clear herself more definitively. so i have zero interest in going there today

jpic is like... i don’t. i don’t really care about sorting him. gth i say town because he’s really letting his teammates down here if scum and i do think scum probably makes some effort here. but jpic isn’t end gaming. he’s either getting yeeted or vig’d or something at some point if he continues to play this way so i think he just self-resolves

i don’t wanna yeet ted today. i don’t know why. i don’t know how to read him. his scum range is really good ime. but he’s actually doing stuff that seems towny so he can stay

i don’t want to yeet jules today either. if what mac is saying about her is true, he’s correct that she isn’t the kind of player you yeet D1. players who don’t bus and can clear themselves off scum flips are self-resolving. and i have no issues with jules’ posts so far. no reason to jump the gun there

if someone wants thoughts on anyone else, just ping me and ask

I want a Radishes meta read.

i don’t know if i can explain it concisely. basically i feel like when he’s scum he gets into the game awkwardly. whereas when he’s town he has the too cool for school attitude and doesn’t really try to get into the game until he feels like it’s worth it to him. i don’t know if i’m explaining this well, and tbf it’s based on a pretty limited sample size

he also had posts i thought looked towny for him. i can grab them if you want

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 4:39 pm Secretly I think Sprit may be reading this game better than anyone else.

Or maybe that's not right. But I do think we've reached a critical mass of town clears for such a large game. Red lights are flashing. A breach has occurred in the outer perimeter. The wolves are in.

I guess what I'm saying is I'm not convinced the happy bouncy totes adorbs crew of Ali-Hally-Tutuu-friend is entirely clean, or maybe rather that the Just-ted-yos getting pushed are anything but independent townies getting boxed out into mischop territory, but also it's too early to worry about such things and I really just want to put these words on record for future cred.

I think I'm supposed to be good at this game but sometimes I wonder who decided that.

Hally wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 11:38 am

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 4:39 pm Secretly I think Sprit may be reading this game better than anyone else.

Or maybe that's not right. But I do think we've reached a critical mass of town clears for such a large game. Red lights are flashing. A breach has occurred in the outer perimeter. The wolves are in.

I guess what I'm saying is I'm not convinced the happy bouncy totes adorbs crew of Ali-Hally-Tutuu-friend is entirely clean, or maybe rather that the Just-ted-yos getting pushed are anything but independent townies getting boxed out into mischop territory, but also it's too early to worry about such things and I really just want to put these words on record for future cred.

I think I'm supposed to be good at this game but sometimes I wonder who decided that.

i like this post a lot from radishes

i guess i could read it as “scum trying to subvert the town core” but it doesn’t feel that way to me

it feels like a towny sentiment, like more town cautioning ppl as opposed to scum being nefarious. admittedly though, i’m having trouble putting into words exactly why i read it that way as opposed to the scummy interpretation, but maybe someone else who’s better at words can explain

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 11:45 am

Hally wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 11:38 am

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 4:39 pm Secretly I think Sprit may be reading this game better than anyone else.

Or maybe that's not right. But I do think we've reached a critical mass of town clears for such a large game. Red lights are flashing. A breach has occurred in the outer perimeter. The wolves are in.

I guess what I'm saying is I'm not convinced the happy bouncy totes adorbs crew of Ali-Hally-Tutuu-friend is entirely clean, or maybe rather that the Just-ted-yos getting pushed are anything but independent townies getting boxed out into mischop territory, but also it's too early to worry about such things and I really just want to put these words on record for future cred.

I think I'm supposed to be good at this game but sometimes I wonder who decided that.

i like this post a lot from radishes

i guess i could read it as “scum trying to subvert the town core” but it doesn’t feel that way to me

it feels like a towny sentiment, like more town cautioning ppl as opposed to scum being nefarious. admittedly though, i’m having trouble putting into words exactly why i read it that way as opposed to the scummy interpretation, but maybe someone else who’s better at words can explain

I actually commented on this exact post before and said why I found it townie. The way I'd frame it is like this: Radishes is skeptical about how easy the game is, which is a townie attitude. But he's using that attitude to help town be less complacent, and not to undermine the towncore or fracture the trust between players who've found each other.

That's town.

Hally wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 11:41 am oh EoD is today? i should probably be able to be here but it’s during my work shift so my attention will probably be divided

also once it gets busy at work i won’t be able to keep up with this anymore and will probably be behind at EoD. so rip. but i should be able to check in

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 11:45 am

Hally wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 11:38 am

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 4:39 pm Secretly I think Sprit may be reading this game better than anyone else.

Or maybe that's not right. But I do think we've reached a critical mass of town clears for such a large game. Red lights are flashing. A breach has occurred in the outer perimeter. The wolves are in.

I guess what I'm saying is I'm not convinced the happy bouncy totes adorbs crew of Ali-Hally-Tutuu-friend is entirely clean, or maybe rather that the Just-ted-yos getting pushed are anything but independent townies getting boxed out into mischop territory, but also it's too early to worry about such things and I really just want to put these words on record for future cred.

I think I'm supposed to be good at this game but sometimes I wonder who decided that.

i like this post a lot from radishes

i guess i could read it as “scum trying to subvert the town core” but it doesn’t feel that way to me

it feels like a towny sentiment, like more town cautioning ppl as opposed to scum being nefarious. admittedly though, i’m having trouble putting into words exactly why i read it that way as opposed to the scummy interpretation, but maybe someone else who’s better at words can explain

I actually commented on this exact post before and said why I found it townie. The way I'd frame it is like this: Radishes is skeptical about how easy the game is, which is a townie attitude. But he's using that attitude to help town be less complacent, and not to undermine the towncore or fracture the trust between players who've found each other.

That's town.

Herm wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 6:08 pm

Herm wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 6:07 pm

Herm wrote: ↑Sun Aug 30, 2020 11:48 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Aug 30, 2020 11:13 pm

Herm wrote: ↑Sun Aug 30, 2020 11:11 pm Did I miss anything juicy?

Idk check scum chat

Link me.

Nanook didn't respond or humor this post.

His other posts also doesn't strike me as super town or super scummy.

In conclusion.... He's 60% likely to be scum.

It's a good start!

dyachei wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 12:00 pm ok so I saw a few questions while catching up this morning that i wanted to respond to

@Poison Chan yes, I approach mashes the same way as regular games. The biggest difference is that I'm more willing to just shoot lhf/slankers in mashes during ITAs

@tutuu about herm - I don't remember which read they were talking about but their reasoning was almost certainly villaging. I'll see if I can find it for you