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Posted: **Mon Nov 02, 2020 10:22 pm**

I also, btw, don't have to have been roleblocked. No wait I pretty much do. Disregard this thought.

Posted: **Mon Nov 02, 2020 10:24 pm**

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 10:22 pm If you saw enough of the thread to know quin was in it wouldn't you have seen that the punk gang openly claimed a block on you

no, punk gang claimed a block on someone else. I saw that. Marmot claimed a change to a block on me.

Posted: **Mon Nov 02, 2020 10:25 pm**

ok

Suppose TSP found out he was blocked by glimpsing Quin in the thread, but not seeing that the punk gang blocked him, somehow

Then either he was blocked from carrying out the kill or a doc exists and protected the target

how do we know tsp was blocked n2?

Posted: **Mon Nov 02, 2020 10:25 pm**

If I lock up Quin, Quin's night actions fail on the nights without Quin. Quin can't make kills, and Quin can't control punk chat. It extends town's clock and gets two clears with blocks.

Posted: **Mon Nov 02, 2020 10:26 pm**

This mech is a bit more tricky than I thought. I'm going to go take a nap, it's really getting late and I have school after. I'll figure all this mess out during my class break.

Posted: **Mon Nov 02, 2020 10:26 pm**

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 10:25 pm ok

Suppose TSP found out he was blocked by glimpsing Quin in the thread, but not seeing that the punk gang blocked him, somehow

Then either he was blocked from carrying out the kill or a doc exists and protected the target

how do we know tsp was blocked n2?

They claimed it, there's no reason to believe I wasn't. I got no information and there's no direct evidence there was a positive effect on Sloonei.

I was only not blocked n2 if Marmot is a wolf and is lying.

Posted: **Mon Nov 02, 2020 10:26 pm**

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 10:25 pm If I lock up Quin, Quin's night actions fail on the nights without Quin. Quin can't make kills, and Quin can't control punk chat. It extends town's clock and gets two clears with blocks.

Is that including the night you targeted quin?

Posted: **Mon Nov 02, 2020 10:27 pm**

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 10:26 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 10:25 pm If I lock up Quin, Quin's night actions fail on the nights without Quin. Quin can't make kills, and Quin can't control punk chat. It extends town's clock and gets two clears with blocks.
Is that including the night you targeted quin?

Also if this is true then this clears me, because sloonei was killed while I was locked up

Posted: **Mon Nov 02, 2020 10:28 pm**

It would explain why TSP didn't OMGUS me yesterday

So what, if we live in a world where TSP is town, is there just two mafia in punks? TL and marmot framing TSP for it all?

Posted: **Mon Nov 02, 2020 10:28 pm**

I'm going to bed for real, I'm getting a sleep deprivation headache and rl comes first. See you

Posted: **Mon Nov 02, 2020 10:29 pm**

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 10:26 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 10:25 pm If I lock up Quin, Quin's night actions fail on the nights without Quin. Quin can't make kills, and Quin can't control punk chat. It extends town's clock and gets two clears with blocks.
Is that including the night you targeted quin?

I.. think so? What, the clears? It works for the clears.

Posted: **Mon Nov 02, 2020 10:30 pm**

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 10:27 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 10:26 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 10:25 pm If I lock up Quin, Quin's night actions fail on the nights without Quin. Quin can't make kills, and Quin can't control punk chat. It extends town's clock and gets two clears with blocks.
Is that including the night you targeted quin?
Also if this is true then this clears me, because sloonei was killed while I was locked up

This was my reasoning, balance of probability and all.

Posted: **Mon Nov 02, 2020 10:30 pm**

Nah, marmot doesn't block me and shoot me, right

Posted: **Mon Nov 02, 2020 10:32 pm**

Okay I have stuff to do I'll be back after midnight.

Posted: **Mon Nov 02, 2020 10:40 pm**

Did we... ever? get a claim from Alison? Or like a real claim from Marmot?

Posted: **Mon Nov 02, 2020 11:03 pm**

did anybody look into what i asked hyena to do?

Posted: **Mon Nov 02, 2020 11:07 pm**

i got insomnia so back for a bit

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 10:40 pm Did we... ever? get a claim from Alison? Or like a real claim from Marmot?

i have made no claims

Posted: **Mon Nov 02, 2020 11:14 pm**

btw there's a dominant strategy for Nutella using her kill shot thing if we had locked up Quin and she knew her target which ... has it been explained how Nutella knows her target?

Posted: **Mon Nov 02, 2020 11:14 pm**

I'm guessing Alison

Posted: **Mon Nov 02, 2020 11:15 pm**

But that doesn't really make sense because Alison doesn't tell Nutella that Nutella can kill Alison

Posted: **Mon Nov 02, 2020 11:19 pm**

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 11:14 pm btw there's a dominant strategy for Nutella using her kill shot thing if we had locked up Quin and she knew her target which ... has it been explained how Nutella knows her target?

no it hasn't

Posted: **Mon Nov 02, 2020 11:29 pm**

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 10:26 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 10:25 pm ok

Suppose TSP found out he was blocked by glimpsing Quin in the thread, but not seeing that the punk gang blocked him, somehow

Then either he was blocked from carrying out the kill or a doc exists and protected the target

how do we know tsp was blocked n2?
They claimed it, there's no reason to believe I wasn't. I got no information and there's no direct evidence there was a positive effect on Sloonei.

I was only not blocked n2 if Marmot is a wolf and is lying.

I can do nothing to the outcome of our roleblock that the rest of the punk gang wouldn't be aware about.

Posted: **Mon Nov 02, 2020 11:31 pm**

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 10:27 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 10:26 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 10:25 pm If I lock up Quin, Quin's night actions fail on the nights without Quin. Quin can't make kills, and Quin can't control punk chat. It extends town's clock and gets two clears with blocks.
Is that including the night you targeted quin?
Also if this is true then this clears me, because sloonei was killed while I was locked up

Actually, it would clear you and TSP as being teammates together, because you both would've been unable to act that niht.

Posted: **Mon Nov 02, 2020 11:37 pm**

Quin wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 11:03 pm did anybody look into what i asked hyena to do?

You asked hyena to look for Poison's claim to be roleblocked. They haven't looked yet.

I'm not sure what we can derive from this though. Poison doesn't appear to know her ability, and thus probably wouldn't know if she was blocked.

Posted: **Mon Nov 02, 2020 11:40 pm**

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 10:19 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 9:12 pm TSP pls more info pls aaaaaaaaa
I've given a whole lot of info.
targets:
1) alison
2) sloonei
3) quin

I additionally have one shot bulletproof but don't get infromed if I've been shot, which in the absence of other possibilities is what I'm assuming happened.
I wrote a big strategy guide for what to do after quin got locked up and we were in pseudo F5 but this also appears to not be necessary.

This is like the one story that makes TSP look extremely town.

So where do we go from here....

Also, TSP, why did you lock Quin up?

Posted: **Mon Nov 02, 2020 11:45 pm**

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 10:40 pm Did we... ever? get a claim from Alison? Or like a real claim from Marmot?

I was vanilla Day 1.

Night 1, I was brought into punk chat, and told I couldn't vote with their roleblock, but I could redirect it if I liked. Additionally, I could bring the punks into the game thread at the end of any game phase

Posted: **Mon Nov 02, 2020 11:46 pm**

Hyena wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 10:00 pm
Poison wrote: ↑Tue Oct 27, 2020 12:13 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Oct 27, 2020 11:42 am @Poison who is mafia?
Hmm.. I don't know the answer yet. I think I don't see Alison as bad as I was seeing her before. I'll be reading the thread again.

I visited mac last night but nothing happened. I wonder if it is because of my role's probabilities or it had something to do with him being outside the thread rn.
No RB message it looks like, but it looks like the roleblock might have gone through?

This is what I found, Quin and Marmot, in case you missed it. :P

Posted: **Mon Nov 02, 2020 11:47 pm**

I'm confused then what Quin's looking for.

Posted: **Mon Nov 02, 2020 11:54 pm**

lol, I just had a thought

What if the lost wolf has a bullet proof vest (or an infinite number of them) and the mafia attacked them last night? In a game I played a couple years, I was a lost wolf with an infinite number of vests, and this is how the mafia eventually found me.

Posted: **Mon Nov 02, 2020 11:55 pm**

Hyena wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 11:54 pm lol, I just had a thought

What if the lost wolf has a bullet proof vest (or an infinite number of them) and the mafia attacked them last night? In a game I played a couple years, I was a lost wolf with an infinite number of vests, and this is how the mafia eventually found me.

In this case, the lost wolf doesn't have to be TSP. Like, who do you guys think would have been the most likely to be attacked last night?

Posted: **Mon Nov 02, 2020 11:56 pm**

Poison wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 1:53 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 11:11 am
Poison wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 7:51 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Oct 28, 2020 11:01 pm well claims don't really help cause roles are distributed semi-randomly but maybe an action claim helps
I know nothing about my role, lol. Everything is a maybe - maybe not. With no specification what my role is. I targeted mac and nothing happened.
well something clearly happened
the host informed me nothing happened from my role.

this is not confirmation of being roleblocked. sigh.

Posted: **Mon Nov 02, 2020 11:56 pm**

Hyena wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 11:55 pm
Hyena wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 11:54 pm lol, I just had a thought

What if the lost wolf has a bullet proof vest (or an infinite number of them) and the mafia attacked them last night? In a game I played a couple years, I was a lost wolf with an infinite number of vests, and this is how the mafia eventually found me.
In this case, the lost wolf doesn't have to be TSP. Like, who do you guys think would have been the most likely to be attacked last night?

TSP, the guy who claimed to have a bulletproof vest.

Posted: **Mon Nov 02, 2020 11:57 pm**

Quin wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 11:56 pm
Poison wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 1:53 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 11:11 am
Poison wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 7:51 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Oct 28, 2020 11:01 pm well claims don't really help cause roles are distributed semi-randomly but maybe an action claim helps
I know nothing about my role, lol. Everything is a maybe - maybe not. With no specification what my role is. I targeted mac and nothing happened.
well something clearly happened
the host informed me nothing happened from my role.
this is not confirmation of being roleblocked. sigh.

This is what I implied in my last post, I thought. o:

Posted: **Mon Nov 02, 2020 11:58 pm**

Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 11:56 pm
Hyena wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 11:55 pm
Hyena wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 11:54 pm lol, I just had a thought

What if the lost wolf has a bullet proof vest (or an infinite number of them) and the mafia attacked them last night? In a game I played a couple years, I was a lost wolf with an infinite number of vests, and this is how the mafia eventually found me.
In this case, the lost wolf doesn't have to be TSP. Like, who do you guys think would have been the most likely to be attacked last night?
TSP, the guy who claimed to have a bulletproof vest.

Yes, I realized TSP is claiming to have a bulletproof vest, but is it possible that he's not the only one that does?

Posted: **Mon Nov 02, 2020 11:58 pm**

Also, do you think mafia chooses to attack TSP last night?

Posted: **Tue Nov 03, 2020 12:00 am**

Also, Sloonei got that message thingy when they died. Who got the message thingy today and did NOT die? :P

Posted: **Tue Nov 03, 2020 12:00 am**

Hyena wrote: ↑Tue Nov 03, 2020 12:00 am Also, Sloonei got that message thingy when they died. Who got the message thingy today and did NOT die? :P

*hint hint*

Posted: **Tue Nov 03, 2020 12:01 am**

Was there a message from the dead person after N1? I don't remember.

Posted: **Tue Nov 03, 2020 12:01 am**

Hyena wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 11:58 pm Also, do you think mafia chooses to attack TSP last night?

I mean, I could think of worse choices.

Posted: **Tue Nov 03, 2020 12:02 am**

Hyena wrote: ↑Tue Nov 03, 2020 12:00 am
Hyena wrote: ↑Tue Nov 03, 2020 12:00 am Also, Sloonei got that message thingy when they died. Who got the message thingy today and did NOT die? :P
*hint hint*

nutella got a message. She was told that Alison is the person she can yeet.

Posted: **Tue Nov 03, 2020 12:03 am**

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Nov 03, 2020 12:01 am
Hyena wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 11:58 pm Also, do you think mafia chooses to attack TSP last night?

I mean, I could think of worse choices.

Yeah, me too, but who would be the MOST likely you think? Or the two most likely since you can probably make an argument mafia would try to attack me last night, too, since I was a consensus townread.

Posted: **Tue Nov 03, 2020 12:04 am**

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Nov 03, 2020 12:02 am
Hyena wrote: ↑Tue Nov 03, 2020 12:00 am
Hyena wrote: ↑Tue Nov 03, 2020 12:00 am Also, Sloonei got that message thingy when they died. Who got the message thingy today and did NOT die? :P
*hint hint*
nutella got a message. She was told that Alison is the person she can yeet.

Correct.

Posted: **Tue Nov 03, 2020 12:06 am**

Now, I don't know if this necessarily clears Alison, but let's get back to Nutella.

If she's a lost wolf, she doesn't know who her partners are, right? So, don't you think she'd try to shoot towny people? And didn't people think LC was pretty towny? Or at least not TOO scummy?

Posted: **Tue Nov 03, 2020 12:06 am**

Did we... ever? get a claim from Alison? Or like a real claim from Marmot TSP?

Posted: **Tue Nov 03, 2020 12:06 am**

I think Quin is right here. I think Nutella could be the lost wolf.

Posted: **Tue Nov 03, 2020 12:09 am**

Hyena wrote: ↑Tue Nov 03, 2020 12:06 am I think Quin is right here. I think Nutella could be the lost wolf.

Oh wait, was it Quin? Or was it someone else? Either way, I recall someone mentioning this possibility.

And because Nutella is a lost wolf, she doesn't know if the note came from town or scum, so I think she outs what the note says either way if this is what's happening.

Posted: **Tue Nov 03, 2020 12:12 am**

Actually, don't nutella and TSP also have a private chat? So much info has come out in this thread, I'm having trouble recollecting.

Posted: **Tue Nov 03, 2020 12:13 am**

Hyena wrote: ↑Tue Nov 03, 2020 12:09 am
Hyena wrote: ↑Tue Nov 03, 2020 12:06 am I think Quin is right here. I think Nutella could be the lost wolf.
Oh wait, was it Quin? Or was it someone else? Either way, I recall someone mentioning this possibility.

And because Nutella is a lost wolf, she doesn't know if the note came from town or scum, so I think she outs what the note says either way if this is what's happening.

Because from a lost wolf's perspective, if the note came from town, they could possibly have knowledge about Alison's alignment. So, she can't necessarily hide the note from us. Plus, if she shoots Alison and she flips scum, that's more town cred, right? On the other hand, if the note came from scum, this could be an attempt to tell them that Alison IS town and is a safe shot. Or the note itself can be complete WIFOM, lol.

Posted: **Tue Nov 03, 2020 12:13 am**

Hyena wrote: ↑Tue Nov 03, 2020 12:09 am
Hyena wrote: ↑Tue Nov 03, 2020 12:06 am I think Quin is right here. I think Nutella could be the lost wolf.
Oh wait, was it Quin? Or was it someone else? Either way, I recall someone mentioning this possibility.

And because Nutella is a lost wolf, she doesn't know if the note came from town or scum, so I think she outs what the note says either way if this is what's happening.

I think Quin thinks I'm the lost wolf, but that nutella is the true mafia.

Posted: **Tue Nov 03, 2020 12:13 am**

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Nov 03, 2020 12:12 am Actually, don't nutella and TSP also have a private chat? So much info has come out in this thread, I'm having trouble recollecting.

Wait, they do? I don't remember seeing this.

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