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Re: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation - Day 3

Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:42 pm
by MacDougall
MacDougall wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:41 pm
pyxxy wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:36 pm
MacDougall wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:29 pm
pyxxy wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:27 pm [VOTE: tutuu] aubergine btw
Vote Porscha.
I want tutuu porscha wagons
Hmm kind of think mafia will win this game if we keep trying to make splits cuz they're already at a numerical advantage that means they can add enough weight to prevent wagons on themselves becoming strong enough to be inside of it.
That is to say I think your role might be unfortunately wolfsiding moving forward @RondoDimBuckle.

I know if I was Mafia that town not feeling permitted to make a runaway would be optimal for the way I like to coordinate a wagonstate. And already has been shown to have created only town wagons. Not sure town can win if we keep going for ties. I think we have enough mechanical clears now we need pelts.

Re: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation - Day 3

Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:42 pm
by tutuu
robyn wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:42 pm
Long Con wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:41 pm You guys don't need to kiss and make up
uh, YES THEY DO
Image

Re: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation - Day 3

Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:42 pm
by robyn
idk what leetic's actual worldview is, but my thread comprehension is quite low, does anyone?

Re: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation - Day 3

Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:43 pm
by Scotty
robyn wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:02 pm @Scotty just post normally today and lose ur vote
You! Don't you wanna sing along?
To! My humble yuletide
Dreamed up pool side
Christmas song
Make it a part of your holiday canon
Make it the heart of my retirement plannin'
Do! Sing another Christmas song

Re: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation - Day 3

Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:44 pm
by MacDougall
robyn wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:41 pm
Long Con wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:37 pm
MacDougall wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:27 pm @Long Con I get the impression you are townreading Leetic more strongly than you are me? Maybe even you are still thinking I may be mafia?
You're pretty convincing as Town. I currently have no plans to pursue you as a Wolf.

Mech and feels are making me think Leetic is also Town. If we could get some clarity around role-block-busdrive-Oracle-Abi-Scotty scenario, that would be really helpful.
who do you plan to pursue as wolf?

also you're conf town so just [to you and scotty] i would rather scotty speak this cycle and lose his vote, assuming that there's 0-1 one wolves in [robyn, mac, LC, scotty, rondo] that mean it's always a chop town motivated and scotty's vote is token ig

so like, i want him to talk, more than i want his vote

@Scotty @Long Con @MacDougall thoughts?
Technically Scotty not being able to vote is far worse for town given he can kind of communicate fine through code anyway.

I'm not sure where you got the idea from he would lose his vote to the curse? Was that confirmed somewhere? I missed that.

Re: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation - Day 3

Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:44 pm
by robyn
oh yeah, i thought pyxxy towntold earlier, i cba to find the specific post but it was during the mac/leetic affair and the feeling was particularly strong

Re: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation - Day 3

Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:45 pm
by robyn
MacDougall wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:44 pm
robyn wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:41 pm
Long Con wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:37 pm
MacDougall wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:27 pm @Long Con I get the impression you are townreading Leetic more strongly than you are me? Maybe even you are still thinking I may be mafia?
You're pretty convincing as Town. I currently have no plans to pursue you as a Wolf.

Mech and feels are making me think Leetic is also Town. If we could get some clarity around role-block-busdrive-Oracle-Abi-Scotty scenario, that would be really helpful.
who do you plan to pursue as wolf?

also you're conf town so just [to you and scotty] i would rather scotty speak this cycle and lose his vote, assuming that there's 0-1 one wolves in [robyn, mac, LC, scotty, rondo] that mean it's always a chop town motivated and scotty's vote is token ig

so like, i want him to talk, more than i want his vote

@Scotty @Long Con @MacDougall thoughts?
Technically Scotty not being able to vote is far worse for town given he can kind of communicate fine through code anyway.

I'm not sure where you got the idea from he would lose his vote to the curse? Was that confirmed somewhere? I missed that.
yeah he said that if he didn't follow the song he'd lose his vote, that is abbie's ability

Re: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation - Day 3

Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:45 pm
by Long Con
robyn wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:41 pm
Long Con wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:37 pm
MacDougall wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:27 pm @Long Con I get the impression you are townreading Leetic more strongly than you are me? Maybe even you are still thinking I may be mafia?
You're pretty convincing as Town. I currently have no plans to pursue you as a Wolf.

Mech and feels are making me think Leetic is also Town. If we could get some clarity around role-block-busdrive-Oracle-Abi-Scotty scenario, that would be really helpful.
who do you plan to pursue as wolf?

also you're conf town so just [to you and scotty] i would rather scotty speak this cycle and lose his vote, assuming that there's 0-1 one wolves in [robyn, mac, LC, scotty, rondo] that mean it's always a chop town motivated and scotty's vote is token ig

so like, i want him to talk, more than i want his vote

@Scotty @Long Con @MacDougall thoughts?
I want him to talk as well. But he is a Bad Dog.

Porscha, tutuu, robyn, pyxxy.

Re: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation - Day 3

Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:45 pm
by MacDougall
robyn wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:42 pm idk what leetic's actual worldview is, but my thread comprehension is quite low, does anyone?
"I have no idea who is mafia except everyone who suspects me or disagrees with me is a wolf and/or asshole" seems to summarise it.

Re: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation - Day 3

Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:46 pm
by robyn
MacDougall wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:44 pm Technically Scotty not being able to vote is far worse for town given he can kind of communicate fine through code anyway.
fair, but my stance is he loses his vote and speaks and solves

Re: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation - Day 3

Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:46 pm
by MacDougall
Long Con wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:45 pm
robyn wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:41 pm
Long Con wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:37 pm
MacDougall wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:27 pm @Long Con I get the impression you are townreading Leetic more strongly than you are me? Maybe even you are still thinking I may be mafia?
You're pretty convincing as Town. I currently have no plans to pursue you as a Wolf.

Mech and feels are making me think Leetic is also Town. If we could get some clarity around role-block-busdrive-Oracle-Abi-Scotty scenario, that would be really helpful.
who do you plan to pursue as wolf?

also you're conf town so just [to you and scotty] i would rather scotty speak this cycle and lose his vote, assuming that there's 0-1 one wolves in [robyn, mac, LC, scotty, rondo] that mean it's always a chop town motivated and scotty's vote is token ig

so like, i want him to talk, more than i want his vote

@Scotty @Long Con @MacDougall thoughts?
I want him to talk as well. But he is a Bad Dog.

Porscha, tutuu, robyn, pyxxy.
What are these names? List of miselims you need?

Re: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation - Day 3

Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:46 pm
by Scotty
Long Con wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:06 pm
MacDougall wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:59 pm
Long Con wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:56 pm
MacDougall wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:54 pm
Long Con wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:51 pm
pyxxy wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:49 pm
MacDougall wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:48 pm

What
caught for the wrong reasons
LOL I was proud when I got it as "Can't Fucking Tell Who's Right". :haha: :haha:
I was targeted and successfully roleblocked someone.

Silence was prevented as per host.

Leetic was roleblocked.

I think at least exploring this was a reasonable path for me to take no? I can't be expected going in to account for every piece of information Leetic has stated in his defense.

I think the omgus and vitriol hurled back at me is of the unreasonable amount given this.
I don't think that your reflexive roleblock would extend to powers not used on you. As in, the silence would be blocked, but the Oracle wouldn't.
Surely this whole idea that Oracle was roleblocked falls apart at the part where nobody would prioritise roleblocking an Oracle?

Like take all the silence and Mac part away. Doesn't it make more sense he's just lying about being roleblocked to cover for the fact he lied about the role in the first place?
That is a possibility, but the Oracle SEEMS to have been blocked today. And if "the real Oracle" is a Town role, then they'd have called Leetic out long ago, and certainly today. I don't think he's lying about the role UNLESS it is just that is teammate is the role (and it would follow that THEY were blocked).

BUT

The town roleblocker is dead. So it's likely that a Wolf blocked the Oracle, evidenced in the Host post.

That is extremely unlikely for a Wolf to choose. So my best theory is that the busdriver messed with the Wolf blocker.

WHICH MEANS that the busdriver should get their ass out here and let us know who the damn wolf is that they messed with.

But that hasn't happened. No, wait. Scotty is the busdriver. That fits with his trickle of info so far. Scotty busdrove me on N0, and I never targeted you, Mac? But I was still blocked.

I wish I had a good conclusion, but these are relevant thoughts anyway.
Silent night, holy night
Shepherds quake at the sight

Re: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation - Day 3

Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:46 pm
by Long Con
MacDougall wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:45 pm
robyn wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:42 pm idk what leetic's actual worldview is, but my thread comprehension is quite low, does anyone?
"I have no idea who is mafia except everyone who suspects me or disagrees with me is a wolf and/or asshole" seems to summarise it.
:evileye:

Re: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation - Day 3

Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:47 pm
by ☆Princess Abigail☆
MacDougall wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:56 pm
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:51 pm Mac promise me you'll neve ever lie about the next question I ask you?
Sure
Are you pocketing me?

Re: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation - Day 3

Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:47 pm
by MacDougall
robyn wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:46 pm
MacDougall wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:44 pm Technically Scotty not being able to vote is far worse for town given he can kind of communicate fine through code anyway.
fair, but my stance is he loses his vote and speaks and solves
He could post fine yesterday and hardly did. Not guarantee he says much anyway lol.

I'm starting to think the mafia are in the mech anyway.

Re: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation - Day 3

Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:47 pm
by MacDougall
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:47 pm
MacDougall wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:56 pm
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:51 pm Mac promise me you'll neve ever lie about the next question I ask you?
Sure
Are you pocketing me?
Not intentionally.

Re: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation - Day 3

Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:47 pm
by Scotty
Long Con wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:07 pm
Scotty wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:01 pm
Long Con wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 1:08 pm Scotty absorbed the hit from whoever Abi targeted. Scotty targeted Abi in order to do this.

Sing "Frosty" if I'm right.

Sing "Deck The Halls" if I'm almost right but not quite.

Sing "O Christmas Tree" if I'm way off.
FROSTY THE SNOWMAN WAS A JOLLY HAPPY SOUL

DON WE NOW OUR GAY APPAREL, FA LA LA LA LA, LA LA LA LA
Scotty is a busdriver.
Ding-dong, ding-dong
That is the song
With joyful ring
All caroling (Oh, oh, ah)

Re: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation - Day 3

Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:47 pm
by MacDougall
Long Con wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:46 pm
MacDougall wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:45 pm
robyn wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:42 pm idk what leetic's actual worldview is, but my thread comprehension is quite low, does anyone?
"I have no idea who is mafia except everyone who suspects me or disagrees with me is a wolf and/or asshole" seems to summarise it.
:evileye:
Is this not facts?

Re: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation - Day 3

Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:48 pm
by MacDougall
MacDougall wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:47 pm
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:47 pm
MacDougall wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:56 pm
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:51 pm Mac promise me you'll neve ever lie about the next question I ask you?
Sure
Are you pocketing me?
Not intentionally.
I have been trying to motivate you a fair bit because you're easier for me to read when you have wim.

Re: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation - Day 3

Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:49 pm
by Long Con
MacDougall wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:47 pm
Long Con wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:46 pm
MacDougall wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:45 pm
robyn wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:42 pm idk what leetic's actual worldview is, but my thread comprehension is quite low, does anyone?
"I have no idea who is mafia except everyone who suspects me or disagrees with me is a wolf and/or asshole" seems to summarise it.
:evileye:
Is this not facts?
I would prefer to move on from snark, dude. It hurts my heart. :hugs:

Re: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation - Day 3

Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:49 pm
by MacDougall
Rondo was hard poe and gonna die.

Scotty was hard poe and gonna die.

Rondo fakes mech and clears Scotty.

If they are both mafia, they just win doing this yeh?

Re: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation - Day 3

Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:50 pm
by MacDougall
Long Con wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:49 pm
MacDougall wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:47 pm
Long Con wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:46 pm
MacDougall wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:45 pm
robyn wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:42 pm idk what leetic's actual worldview is, but my thread comprehension is quite low, does anyone?
"I have no idea who is mafia except everyone who suspects me or disagrees with me is a wolf and/or asshole" seems to summarise it.
:evileye:
Is this not facts?
I would prefer to move on from snark, dude. It hurts my heart. :hugs:
It's not snark, it's a genuine answer to Robyn's question.

Re: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation - Night 2

Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:50 pm
by ☆Princess Abigail☆
Scotty wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:09 pm
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 1:29 pm
Scotty wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 11:53 am Hey @☆Princess Abigail☆ make sure you target someone tonite, pretty please??? It’s important
I did
God rest ye merry gentlemen
Let nothing you dismay
I love you too

Re: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation - Day 3

Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:50 pm
by Long Con
Scotty wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:47 pm
Long Con wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:07 pm
Scotty wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:01 pm
Long Con wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 1:08 pm Scotty absorbed the hit from whoever Abi targeted. Scotty targeted Abi in order to do this.

Sing "Frosty" if I'm right.

Sing "Deck The Halls" if I'm almost right but not quite.

Sing "O Christmas Tree" if I'm way off.
FROSTY THE SNOWMAN WAS A JOLLY HAPPY SOUL

DON WE NOW OUR GAY APPAREL, FA LA LA LA LA, LA LA LA LA
Scotty is a busdriver.
Ding-dong, ding-dong
That is the song
With joyful ring
All caroling (Oh, oh, ah)
I take this as confirmation that Scotty is the busdriver.

I would love to somehow confirm WHO he busdrove and specifically how it works, and if it is relevant with regard to leetic getting blocked.

Re: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation - Day 3

Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:50 pm
by MacDougall
MacDougall wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:49 pm Rondo was hard poe and gonna die.

Scotty was hard poe and gonna die.

Rondo fakes mech and clears Scotty.

If they are both mafia, they just win doing this yeh?
Of course LC would have to be the 3rd here.

Ha can you imagine.

Re: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation - Day 3

Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:51 pm
by Long Con
MacDougall wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:49 pm Rondo was hard poe and gonna die.

Scotty was hard poe and gonna die.

Rondo fakes mech and clears Scotty.

If they are both mafia, they just win doing this yeh?
Then I'm Mafia too.

Re: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation - Day 3

Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:51 pm
by ☆Princess Abigail☆
leetic wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:10 pm
Long Con wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:06 pm
MacDougall wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:59 pm
Long Con wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:56 pm
MacDougall wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:54 pm
Long Con wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:51 pm
pyxxy wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:49 pm

caught for the wrong reasons
LOL I was proud when I got it as "Can't Fucking Tell Who's Right". :haha: :haha:
I was targeted and successfully roleblocked someone.

Silence was prevented as per host.

Leetic was roleblocked.

I think at least exploring this was a reasonable path for me to take no? I can't be expected going in to account for every piece of information Leetic has stated in his defense.

I think the omgus and vitriol hurled back at me is of the unreasonable amount given this.
I don't think that your reflexive roleblock would extend to powers not used on you. As in, the silence would be blocked, but the Oracle wouldn't.
Surely this whole idea that Oracle was roleblocked falls apart at the part where nobody would prioritise roleblocking an Oracle?

Like take all the silence and Mac part away. Doesn't it make more sense he's just lying about being roleblocked to cover for the fact he lied about the role in the first place?
That is a possibility, but the Oracle SEEMS to have been blocked today. And if "the real Oracle" is a Town role, then they'd have called Leetic out long ago, and certainly today. I don't think he's lying about the role UNLESS it is just that is teammate is the role (and it would follow that THEY were blocked).

BUT

The town roleblocker is dead. So it's likely that a Wolf blocked the Oracle, evidenced in the Host post.

That is extremely unlikely for a Wolf to choose. So my best theory is that the busdriver messed with the Wolf blocker.

WHICH MEANS that the busdriver should get their ass out here and let us know who the damn wolf is that they messed with.

But that hasn't happened. No, wait. Scotty is the busdriver. That fits with his trickle of info so far. Scotty busdrove me on N0, and I never targeted you, Mac? But I was still blocked.

I wish I had a good conclusion, but these are relevant thoughts anyway.
That makes sense actually. If Abby's claim is real, she probably targeted me (or the real post restrictor did so to make it look like they were Abby). That would mean that the real blocked person was Scotty, and I guess redirecting has a higher priority over roleblocking?
I targeted Tutuu last night as I've claimed

Re: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation - Day 3

Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:51 pm
by robyn
MacDougall wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:50 pm
MacDougall wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:49 pm Rondo was hard poe and gonna die.

Scotty was hard poe and gonna die.

Rondo fakes mech and clears Scotty.

If they are both mafia, they just win doing this yeh?
Of course LC would have to be the 3rd here.

Ha can you imagine.
mmmm, not sure i buy it

Re: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation - Day 3

Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:51 pm
by Long Con
MacDougall wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:50 pm
MacDougall wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:49 pm Rondo was hard poe and gonna die.

Scotty was hard poe and gonna die.

Rondo fakes mech and clears Scotty.

If they are both mafia, they just win doing this yeh?
Of course LC would have to be the 3rd here.

Ha can you imagine.
It's a stretch. I would be proud, but this is a lot of factors in play. I'd have to have a fakeclaim of Clark Griswold to start.

Re: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation - Day 3

Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:52 pm
by MacDougall
@Scotty if you simply targeted Abigail and made her target you instead of her regular target and there's nothing more to it than that sing the fifth verse of Fairytale of New York please.

Re: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation - Day 3

Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:52 pm
by ☆Princess Abigail☆
leetic wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:12 pm
MacDougall wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:09 pm
leetic wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:08 pm
MacDougall wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:05 pm
leetic wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:01 pm
MacDougall wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:59 pm
Long Con wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:56 pm

I don't think that your reflexive roleblock would extend to powers not used on you. As in, the silence would be blocked, but the Oracle wouldn't.
Surely this whole idea that Oracle was roleblocked falls apart at the part where nobody would prioritise roleblocking an Oracle?

Like take all the silence and Mac part away. Doesn't it make more sense he's just lying about being roleblocked to cover for the fact he lied about the role in the first place?
I don't know. If you can use the fact that the Oracle was roleblocked to try to mislynch the Oracle, maybe you would roleblock the Oracle as a wolf? Furthermore, all this is WIFOM and does not even remotely counter the hard mechanical evidence on my side
Just for the record as an aside are you capable of withstanding accusations in a mafia game without resorting to vitriol and/or spark and/or belittling? Cuz if the answer is no I'll just stop doing it cuz I value my emotional state over the outcome of a mafia game.

Just want to point out you've been hostile and rude to me all game long and I've largely handled it with good faith but ... I can only exercise grace to a point.
If you think blatant bad-faith misinterpretations of my arguments are "nice", then go ahead. I at least was responding to things that you were actually saying
I didn't say nice but also your calling me lame and shit came well beforehand.

I'm literally over it. Like I'm just gonna stop talking to you because your bothering me.
If you think that "lame" is too much for you, maybe you shouldn't be playing mafia. Also wrong "your" again, but I will admit that's being petty
You could always like try listening to people who tell you that you are upsetting them and be a decent human being and stop instead of blaming every person you upset and never looking inwards but that's just my two cents

Re: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation - Day 3

Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:53 pm
by MacDougall
Long Con wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:51 pm
MacDougall wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:50 pm
MacDougall wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:49 pm Rondo was hard poe and gonna die.

Scotty was hard poe and gonna die.

Rondo fakes mech and clears Scotty.

If they are both mafia, they just win doing this yeh?
Of course LC would have to be the 3rd here.

Ha can you imagine.
It's a stretch. I would be proud, but this is a lot of factors in play. I'd have to have a fakeclaim of Clark Griswold to start.
Clark can't be mafia?

Re: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation - Day 3

Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:53 pm
by Long Con
MacDougall wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:52 pm @Scotty if you simply targeted Abigail and made her target you instead of her regular target and there's nothing more to it than that sing the fifth verse of Fairytale of New York please.
Trying to pocket me with my all-time favourite Christmas song, eh? :grin:

Re: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation - Day 3

Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:53 pm
by Scotty
Long Con wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:11 pm
MacDougall wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:10 pm
Scotty wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:08 pm
MacDougall wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 1:22 pm Stuff got switched around eh.

That's weird.

LC did you get a check?
I know everything changes
Yeah, it's strange how time marches on
Maybe there'll be some time in the future
Oh, tell me I'm not wrong
Whichever host invented post curses in the first place needs to be time paradoxed
There's honestly a fair chance that it was me.
Father Christmas, give us some money
We got no time for your silly toys
We'll beat you up if you don't hand it over
Give all the toys to the little rich boys

Re: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation - Day 3

Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:53 pm
by Long Con
MacDougall wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:53 pm
Long Con wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:51 pm
MacDougall wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:50 pm
MacDougall wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:49 pm Rondo was hard poe and gonna die.

Scotty was hard poe and gonna die.

Rondo fakes mech and clears Scotty.

If they are both mafia, they just win doing this yeh?
Of course LC would have to be the 3rd here.

Ha can you imagine.
It's a stretch. I would be proud, but this is a lot of factors in play. I'd have to have a fakeclaim of Clark Griswold to start.
Clark can't be mafia?
I guess? He's like... the protagonist.

Re: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation - Day 3

Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:54 pm
by ☆Princess Abigail☆
Long Con wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:15 pm
Scotty wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:13 pm
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 1:29 pm
MacDougall wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 1:22 pm Stuff got switched around eh.

That's weird.

LC did you get a check?
I defs did not target Scotty so
What child is this, who, laid to rest
On Mary's lap, is sleeping?
BAD DOG.

Use the code.

FROSTY=YES

O CHRISTMAS TREE=NO

Deck the Halls=something other than those answers.
The dog is a good dog how dare you!

Re: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation - Day 3

Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:55 pm
by MacDougall
Long Con wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:53 pm
MacDougall wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:53 pm
Long Con wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:51 pm
MacDougall wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:50 pm
MacDougall wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:49 pm Rondo was hard poe and gonna die.

Scotty was hard poe and gonna die.

Rondo fakes mech and clears Scotty.

If they are both mafia, they just win doing this yeh?
Of course LC would have to be the 3rd here.

Ha can you imagine.
It's a stretch. I would be proud, but this is a lot of factors in play. I'd have to have a fakeclaim of Clark Griswold to start.
Clark can't be mafia?
I guess? He's like... the protagonist.
I mean sorta. He's also the villain from certain perspectives lol.

Also theme reads like this are no different from angleshooting the host.

Re: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation - Day 3

Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:55 pm
by Long Con
:pout: Good bois use codes.

Re: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation - Day 3

Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:55 pm
by leetic
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:52 pm
leetic wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:12 pm
MacDougall wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:09 pm
leetic wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:08 pm
MacDougall wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:05 pm
leetic wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:01 pm
MacDougall wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:59 pm

Surely this whole idea that Oracle was roleblocked falls apart at the part where nobody would prioritise roleblocking an Oracle?

Like take all the silence and Mac part away. Doesn't it make more sense he's just lying about being roleblocked to cover for the fact he lied about the role in the first place?
I don't know. If you can use the fact that the Oracle was roleblocked to try to mislynch the Oracle, maybe you would roleblock the Oracle as a wolf? Furthermore, all this is WIFOM and does not even remotely counter the hard mechanical evidence on my side
Just for the record as an aside are you capable of withstanding accusations in a mafia game without resorting to vitriol and/or spark and/or belittling? Cuz if the answer is no I'll just stop doing it cuz I value my emotional state over the outcome of a mafia game.

Just want to point out you've been hostile and rude to me all game long and I've largely handled it with good faith but ... I can only exercise grace to a point.
If you think blatant bad-faith misinterpretations of my arguments are "nice", then go ahead. I at least was responding to things that you were actually saying
I didn't say nice but also your calling me lame and shit came well beforehand.

I'm literally over it. Like I'm just gonna stop talking to you because your bothering me.
If you think that "lame" is too much for you, maybe you shouldn't be playing mafia. Also wrong "your" again, but I will admit that's being petty
You could always like try listening to people who tell you that you are upsetting them and be a decent human being and stop instead of blaming every person you upset and never looking inwards but that's just my two cents
The self-awareness here is really something

Re: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation - Day 3

Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:55 pm
by Scotty
leetic wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:13 pm
MacDougall wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:11 pm
leetic wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:10 pm
Long Con wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:06 pm
MacDougall wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:59 pm
Long Con wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:56 pm
MacDougall wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:54 pm

I was targeted and successfully roleblocked someone.

Silence was prevented as per host.

Leetic was roleblocked.

I think at least exploring this was a reasonable path for me to take no? I can't be expected going in to account for every piece of information Leetic has stated in his defense.

I think the omgus and vitriol hurled back at me is of the unreasonable amount given this.
I don't think that your reflexive roleblock would extend to powers not used on you. As in, the silence would be blocked, but the Oracle wouldn't.
Surely this whole idea that Oracle was roleblocked falls apart at the part where nobody would prioritise roleblocking an Oracle?

Like take all the silence and Mac part away. Doesn't it make more sense he's just lying about being roleblocked to cover for the fact he lied about the role in the first place?
That is a possibility, but the Oracle SEEMS to have been blocked today. And if "the real Oracle" is a Town role, then they'd have called Leetic out long ago, and certainly today. I don't think he's lying about the role UNLESS it is just that is teammate is the role (and it would follow that THEY were blocked).

BUT

The town roleblocker is dead. So it's likely that a Wolf blocked the Oracle, evidenced in the Host post.

That is extremely unlikely for a Wolf to choose. So my best theory is that the busdriver messed with the Wolf blocker.

WHICH MEANS that the busdriver should get their ass out here and let us know who the damn wolf is that they messed with.

But that hasn't happened. No, wait. Scotty is the busdriver. That fits with his trickle of info so far. Scotty busdrove me on N0, and I never targeted you, Mac? But I was still blocked.

I wish I had a good conclusion, but these are relevant thoughts anyway.
That makes sense actually. If Abby's claim is real, she probably targeted me (or the real post restrictor did so to make it look like they were Abby). That would mean that the real blocked person was Scotty, and I guess redirecting has a higher priority over roleblocking?
She said she targeted Tutuu.
Assuming her claim is real. If it isn't, I am a viable target for the real post restrictor pretending to be Abby. Scotty should just confirm if him + me was the bus drive though.
I wouldn't touch you with a thirty nine and a half foot pole

Re: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation - Day 3

Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:56 pm
by ☆Princess Abigail☆
MacDougall wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:29 pm @☆Princess Abigail☆

Your username is way too difficult to ping. How does one find a star on a smartphone keyboard? Having to copy paste your name every time is madness.

Anyway.

Porscha?

@tutuu @robyn

Same q
Blame J3 he gave me the option!

I still don't want to settle on Porscha if only cause she was my first gut read this game and those are... usually good

Re: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation - Day 3

Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:56 pm
by leetic
MacDougall wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:45 pm
robyn wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:42 pm idk what leetic's actual worldview is, but my thread comprehension is quite low, does anyone?
"I have no idea who is mafia except everyone who suspects me or disagrees with me is a wolf and/or asshole" seems to summarise it.
Cope

Re: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation - Day 3

Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:56 pm
by ☆Princess Abigail☆
tutuu wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:35 pm
MacDougall wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:29 pm @☆Princess Abigail☆

Your username is way too difficult to ping. How does one find a star on a smartphone keyboard? Having to copy paste your name every time is madness.

Anyway.

Porscha?

@tutuu @robyn

Same q
u cant find the star on the phone, no

[VOTE: Porscha] aubergine

my thoughts about robyn are still marinating. as for leetic i'd like to wait until the heat goes down a bit, its fresh from the oven
It's on my phone

Re: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation - Day 3

Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:56 pm
by Long Con
MacDougall wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:55 pm
Long Con wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:53 pm
MacDougall wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:53 pm
Long Con wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:51 pm
MacDougall wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:50 pm
MacDougall wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:49 pm Rondo was hard poe and gonna die.

Scotty was hard poe and gonna die.

Rondo fakes mech and clears Scotty.

If they are both mafia, they just win doing this yeh?
Of course LC would have to be the 3rd here.

Ha can you imagine.
It's a stretch. I would be proud, but this is a lot of factors in play. I'd have to have a fakeclaim of Clark Griswold to start.
Clark can't be mafia?
I guess? He's like... the protagonist.
I mean sorta. He's also the villain from certain perspectives lol.

Also theme reads like this are no different from angleshooting the host.
I believe that there are three wolves, and they're the neighbours and the boss. I could be wrong, we'll see eventually.

Re: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation - Day 3

Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:56 pm
by MacDougall
Long Con wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:53 pm
MacDougall wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:52 pm @Scotty if you simply targeted Abigail and made her target you instead of her regular target and there's nothing more to it than that sing the fifth verse of Fairytale of New York please.
Trying to pocket me with my all-time favourite Christmas song, eh? :grin:
Haha isn't it everyone's (who has taste)

Re: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation - Day 3

Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:56 pm
by ☆Princess Abigail☆
Just get a better phone 5head

Re: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation - Day 3

Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:57 pm
by leetic
Scotty wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:55 pm
leetic wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:13 pm
MacDougall wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:11 pm
leetic wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:10 pm
Long Con wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:06 pm
MacDougall wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:59 pm
Long Con wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:56 pm

I don't think that your reflexive roleblock would extend to powers not used on you. As in, the silence would be blocked, but the Oracle wouldn't.
Surely this whole idea that Oracle was roleblocked falls apart at the part where nobody would prioritise roleblocking an Oracle?

Like take all the silence and Mac part away. Doesn't it make more sense he's just lying about being roleblocked to cover for the fact he lied about the role in the first place?
That is a possibility, but the Oracle SEEMS to have been blocked today. And if "the real Oracle" is a Town role, then they'd have called Leetic out long ago, and certainly today. I don't think he's lying about the role UNLESS it is just that is teammate is the role (and it would follow that THEY were blocked).

BUT

The town roleblocker is dead. So it's likely that a Wolf blocked the Oracle, evidenced in the Host post.

That is extremely unlikely for a Wolf to choose. So my best theory is that the busdriver messed with the Wolf blocker.

WHICH MEANS that the busdriver should get their ass out here and let us know who the damn wolf is that they messed with.

But that hasn't happened. No, wait. Scotty is the busdriver. That fits with his trickle of info so far. Scotty busdrove me on N0, and I never targeted you, Mac? But I was still blocked.

I wish I had a good conclusion, but these are relevant thoughts anyway.
That makes sense actually. If Abby's claim is real, she probably targeted me (or the real post restrictor did so to make it look like they were Abby). That would mean that the real blocked person was Scotty, and I guess redirecting has a higher priority over roleblocking?
She said she targeted Tutuu.
Assuming her claim is real. If it isn't, I am a viable target for the real post restrictor pretending to be Abby. Scotty should just confirm if him + me was the bus drive though.
I wouldn't touch you with a thirty nine and a half foot pole
So I'll take that as you didn't target me at all?

Re: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation - Day 3

Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:57 pm
by Long Con
I take it that way as well.

Re: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation - Day 3

Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:59 pm
by tutuu
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:56 pm Just get a better phone 5head
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Re: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation - Day 3

Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:59 pm
by ☆Princess Abigail☆
MacDougall wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:47 pm
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:47 pm
MacDougall wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:56 pm
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:51 pm Mac promise me you'll neve ever lie about the next question I ask you?
Sure
Are you pocketing me?
Not intentionally.
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