The Syndicate

I think if Roxy was bad she would have voted for Vomps in order to avoid standing out.

Also re Llama, I have gone back and forth. I was fairly sure he was bad until his reaction to Vomps lynch. It was fairly solidified for me when he went after Blooper; he would not have done that IMO right after the Vomps lynch were he bad. But then he will say something that makes me go hmmmm.

Can you tell me just what I said that you are referring to? It's hard for me toxic stuff up on phone at work.

Lol *to look stuff up, NOT "toxic"

S~V~S wrote:I have an idea as to why, based on what llama said, although I could be wrong

Perhaps more people should take part in Mongooses Special Events, hrm?

According to the above post, you are buying llama's story. I don't blame you, I am too.

S~V~S wrote:Well, we now know MP rezzed BWT. This sounds very non committal and waffly and wishy washy. This post almost makes me think MM is his partner.

But I still think that bad Llama would have been too careful to take a leading role in yet another lynch after the vomps fiasco, so I am still botd with an eye on him going forward.

Linki, because that was how it felt to me.

This post came before the former quote. So you previously suggested that llama and I could be baddie teammates. You also suggest this immediately after accusing me of giving Made's case momentum. You're doing the same thing here.



I don't buy your Roxy explanation. Vomps was a foregone conclusion on Day 3. Lynches like that are near impossible to pick someone out of the crowd. The last voter on the wagon stands out just as much/little as Roxy or I.

Lol it is not an explanation, it is an opinion. I don't much care if you buy it.

And you are conveniently skipping the second half of that post where I said I ALMOST thought that. The part where i pretty much said the same thing I just posted.

Yo, I've yet to catch up, but something just clicked: who the hell night kills MP????

He was lynched.

S~V~S wrote:Lol it is not an explanation, it is an opinion. I don't much care if you buy it.

And you are conveniently skipping the second half of that post where I said I ALMOST thought that. The part where i pretty much said the same thing I just posted.

What's the point in saying it if you don't intend it it? I get the feeling that you want to lynch llama, but you're waiting for someone else to push the issue so you can follow along. You've offered no other explanation for BWT being rezzed while calling mine lame.

Linki: MP was lynched Made.

Linki 2: What she said.

What are you saying, Metalmarsh, you think we should lynch S~V~S?

I think that would be a good idea, yes.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:I think that would be a good idea, yes.

That's a horrible idea

Made wrote:Yo, I've yet to catch up, but something just clicked: who the hell night kills MP????

do y'all think made's bad?

Dom wrote:

Made wrote:Yo, I've yet to catch up, but something just clicked: who the hell night kills MP????

do y'all think made's bad?

No, but I am interested to hear who he's going after today.

Black Rock wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:I think that would be a good idea, yes.

That's a horrible idea

I await your alternative plan.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Dom wrote:

Made wrote:Yo, I've yet to catch up, but something just clicked: who the hell night kills MP????

do y'all think made's bad?

No, but I am interested to hear who he's going after today.

Black Rock wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:I think that would be a good idea, yes.

That's a horrible idea

I await your alternative plan.

I don't have one.

Guys, should I vote for Rico out of spite?

I don't think this is the place to talk about who you think killed you.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

S~V~S wrote:Lol it is not an explanation, it is an opinion. I don't much care if you buy it.

And you are conveniently skipping the second half of that post where I said I ALMOST thought that. The part where i pretty much said the same thing I just posted.

What's the point in saying it if you don't intend it it? I get the feeling that you want to lynch llama, but you're waiting for someone else to push the issue so you can follow along. You've offered no other explanation for BWT being rezzed while calling mine lame.

Linki: MP was lynched Made.

I said it because this is a game where we give opinions. So I gave one. I don't want to lynch Llama, I want to lynch you.

I'm still of a mind to lynch Rico. I also don't like the fact that discussion for him seemed to just drop off the face of the Earth. So unless a better option pops up, I'm going in that direction today.

Hey, all.
Sorry I'm not caught up yet, but am just about to get on a train to travel home after a whirlwind Disney/Wizarding World of Harry Potter weekend, so I'll be back in action again very soon!

thellama73 wrote:Guys, should I vote for Rico out of spite?

thellama73 wrote:Guys, should I vote for Rico out of spite?

No. Only if you have a good reason for thinking he's bad.

birdwithteeth11 wrote:

thellama73 wrote:Guys, should I vote for Rico out of spite?

No. Only if you have a good reason for thinking he's bad.

Okay, good plan.

Stressful day at work, guys. I'll be watching Barry Lyndon if anyone needs me. Also, you should all watch Barry Lyndon.

I just figured out that you can view the number of times each player has posted in a topic by clicking on the little red number in the forum view.

Ok, I'm pretty much caught up, though I did read quickly and might have missed some degrees of subtlety.

I think that in addition to low posters (Bass, DF, sabie, Lizzy) I'm interested in reassessing my view on the following players, who up until now I've been feeling totally neutral on:
daisy
Dom
MM
Rico

The poll ends at a weird time for me, but we have another whole day/night to discuss, which is good.

Canucklehead wrote:Ok, I'm pretty much caught up, though I did read quickly and might have missed some degrees of subtlety.

I think that in addition to low posters (Bass, DF, sabie, Lizzy) I'm interested in reassessing my view on the following players, who up until now I've been feeling totally neutral on:
daisy
Dom
MM
Rico

If there was any subtlety, I missed it too.

Mongoose wrote:*Required Watching: Un Chien Andalou


Perhaps the most known collab between Luis Buñuel and Salvador Dali.

* Required Watching for life, not for the game.

Zany.

Okay, I'm really starting to apply myself in the game. I went over Rico's posts, and the results are muddled.

He maintained a Vomps suspicion (like basically everyone else) for much of the early game, and briefly mentioned suspicion of SVS and Roxy in connection to Vomps.

Later on, after Vomps was lynched, Rico had something of a row with Dom over Dom's less than enthusiastic reaction to BWT's rezz. As someone who is always a bit leery of such things anyway, I don't see anything suspicious in Dom's behavior. Rico felt like he was pressing the issue a bit much, imo.

Finally, he has begun looking more closely at MM, noting that MM has contributed to civvie lynches (although that's pretty much all we've had), and questioning MM's suspicion of Roxy.

I need to look over Dom, MM, and Roxy to see how this all comes together.

DFaraday wrote:Okay, I'm really starting to apply myself in the game. I went over Rico's posts, and the results are muddled.

He maintained a Vomps suspicion (like basically everyone else) for much of the early game, and briefly mentioned suspicion of SVS and Roxy in connection to Vomps.

Later on, after Vomps was lynched, Rico had something of a row with Dom over Dom's less than enthusiastic reaction to BWT's rezz. As someone who is always a bit leery of such things anyway, I don't see anything suspicious in Dom's behavior. Rico felt like he was pressing the issue a bit much, imo.

Finally, he has begun looking more closely at MM, noting that MM has contributed to civvie lynches (although that's pretty much all we've had), and questioning MM's suspicion of Roxy.

I need to look over Dom, MM, and Roxy to see how this all comes together.

If that's going to be your reason, I could name a handful of players who've contributed to more civvie lynches than I have. Regardless, contributing to civvie lynches isn't a baddie sign. Voting patterns would be better to look at.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Bass_the_Clever wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Bass, are you suspicious of anyone aside from me?

To be honest I have been really focused on you but other people are starting to get my attention. I also have my eye on Rico, Roxy,and also something about BR caught my attention during my re read so thats like my top 4. Who is your top suspects at this time?

Roxy. The previous lynch looks like a save, for more than any of the vomps lynch 'saves'.

Lower on my radar. SVS, LC, and you.

Players I've watched but can't decide on: Rico and Made.

MM what do you think of made and rico now? Also why do you suspect me S~V~S and LC? Is it because we said something about you and thats why you suspect us or is it something else?

Rest in peace Timmer hope your hand feels better.

MM, we cannot look at voting patterns, we cannot look at who voted for civvies, because we haven't lynched a baddie yet. So none of those data points have enough context. That is why it's so important we get a baddie, like RIGHT NOW. Otherwise we will be flailing around aimlessly all game until one by one we're all put out of our misery.

I have to admit I'm a little perturbed at how Roxy handled this past lynch. She should have been lynched and obviously wasn't, and I think a good chunk of us have an idea as to why, but I still find it odd that Roxy basically had no reaction to that lynch. It makes me think that her reaction played out behind the scenes rather than in the thread. I also don't agree with SVS's opinion that a baddie Roxy would have voted to lynch Vomps, because wasn't Roxy defending Vomp? So why would she vote for him, civ or scum?

I mean that she would not have bothered day fending him either unless she was sure he was civ. And she would have had no way of knowing that.

*defending

&%$%-- autocorrect

I could be wrong, but this is something she and I have in common when civ. I honestly do not think she would have bothered to defend Vomps. I think she would have voted for him.

TH, what was your opinion on MM?

I don't suspect MM, but I don't have any solid reasons why. In my opinion this doesn't resemble his baddie game, and I don't have much experience with his civ game, so that makes me think this is it.

I need to consider what you're saying about Roxy. I haven't ever picked up on that trend you mention. You're saying she doesn't defend other players when she's bad, which makes me want to look into whether that's true or not.

Bass_the_Clever wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Bass_the_Clever wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Bass, are you suspicious of anyone aside from me?

To be honest I have been really focused on you but other people are starting to get my attention. I also have my eye on Rico, Roxy,and also something about BR caught my attention during my re read so thats like my top 4. Who is your top suspects at this time?

Roxy. The previous lynch looks like a save, for more than any of the vomps lynch 'saves'.

Lower on my radar. SVS, LC, and you.

Players I've watched but can't decide on: Rico and Made.

MM what do you think of made and rico now? Also why do you suspect me S~V~S and LC? Is it because we said something about you and thats why you suspect us or is it something else?

I don't suspect you anymore. Made feels like a civ to me, but I'm still waiting to hear who he's going after today.

Rico hasn't been on my radar, but I've noticed his activity level has dropped over the last day or two (since the start of Donner Family). I'm studying for midterms now, but I want to do a full reread of him after work tonight.

As for SVS: SVS doesn't feel civ to me. She's been hypocritical. I think she is connected to Roxy (who I'm pretty sure is bad). She continues to deny cases or ideas I have brought to the table about other players, even calling one of them lame. Two things I feel very uncomfortable about. 1) SVS denies everything I say with no interest of accepting it. The one exception was this post which she used my reasoning to hop on the MP wagon. 2) People (namely BR) seem horrified that I would suggest lynching SVS. I don't know if this is actually a game-related read, or SVS is just someone we don't lynch. As I said to BR, if you have an alternative option bring it forward. I still think Roxy is the way to go today, but I'd vote SVS as well.

Oh, and LC seems like he is just playing from the sidelines, which pings me to hell and back. I've not seem him this uninvolved in a game.

S~V~S wrote:I could be wrong, but this is something she and I have in common when civ.

Wait, what exactly are you saying that you have in common with Roxy here, SVS? That you guys both defend people you think are civs when you're civs?

S~V~S wrote:I could be wrong, but this is something she and I have in common when civ. I honestly do not think she would have bothered to defend Vomps. I think she would have voted for him.

TH, what was your opinion on MM?

If you are suggesting what I think you are, I don't think Roxy would even entertain voting for vomps at all. Multiple times on Days 1 and 2, she set herself up for possibly voting vomps. This being the obvious one.

Roxy wrote:Odd choice is right like others have said about Sabie. I also think her save was either a Role blocker or she saved herself which seems unlikely tbh.

I know everyone is still talking about vomps - which after what went down with him near lynch end last time I could poss vote this way.

SVS - I do see what others are saying and your posts have that dismissive tone to them esp noted it during your last interaction with Ricochet and in response to llama.You did not actualy address MP's questions and though I have asked twice you never responded to my question I have asked after Teeth was lynched. I would to hear from you and would like you to respond to my previous question even though it is kind of dated now. I could vote for you.

I however am still concerned with Made. He hasn't even bothered to mention my suspicion nor respond or acknowledge it in any way. I would vote for you.

Lizzy - whereforartthou?

Metalmarsh89 wrote:If you are suggesting what I think you are, I don't think Roxy would even entertain voting for vomps at all. Multiple times on Days 1 and 2, she set herself up for possibly voting vomps. This being the obvious one.

I'm not understanding your conclusion in regards to the Roxy post that you quoted. Can you clarify what you're saying here?

I think SVS is suggesting that Roxy is Godard (vomps message partner) since she defended vomps, because how else would Roxy be certain of vomps being civ while also being civ? If Roxy is civ and she knew vomps was civ, there would be no reason to entertain a vote for him.

I might be wrong about what SVS is insinuating, but that's how I read it.

Mongoose wrote:*Required Watching: Un Chien Andalou


Perhaps the most known collab between Luis Buñuel and Salvador Dali.

* Required Watching for life, not for the game.

I was asked about my opinion on this so here it is:
well, the film is obviously surreal and doesn't have a "plot" but what it did have is a lot of great imagery. The most striking to me was the shot of the ants in the guy's (i am not sure how to refer to either of the male characters) hand. Another one was the scene where the guy was chasing the girl and dragging all the stuff behind him. The film doesn't seem to be "about" anything but I think a lot of it is at least meant to evoke ideas about subconscious desires. The groping scene and the shooting scene stand out in particular as examples of that. There was also what seemed like symbolism in the use of the striped box, but I honestly have no idea what. I thought it was interesting how at the end they find the smashed box and the other man's discarded clothes (another example of the subconscious thing?). The arrangement of the soundtrack was interesting too. The middle was dramatic and serious sounding, but it was bookended by lively dancable bits. It makes it feel as if it were some sort of dream sequence. Also I noticed lots of different kinds of cuts. The bicycle part in the beginning had a couple different kinds of takes being used in quick succession (that hurt my brain) and there was that sequence of match cuts between the shot of the ants in the hand to the arm pit hair to the...sea urchin? that I thought worked really well visually. Not to mention the cloud crossing the moon interspersed with the eye cutting. I'd not seen that before (just a gif of the eye cutting). Now that I've read a bit about the film that was apparently observation that inspired the film. Personally, I liked the film because it was surreal while allowing me to interpret it in a personal way without feeling forced. Normally I am not a big fan of that sort of thing but this was particularly well done. It sort of reminded me of some of vomp's writing, like Ellen's Oiled Vagina. Seemingly random on the surface, but with an undercurrent of normal (possibly repressed) human feelings.

S~V~S wrote:I mean that she would not have bothered day fending him either unless she was sure he was civ. And she would have had no way of knowing that.

S~V~S wrote:I could be wrong, but this is something she and I have in common when civ. I honestly do not think she would have bothered to defend Vomps. I think she would have voted for him.

I remember one game where Roxy was a baddie in a two-mafia setup, 3 baddies on each team, very similar to this game: TV Show Mafia on RM. I just went back and reread all of Roxy's posts from that game, and I must disagree with your opinion that Roxy doesn't defend other players when she's a baddie. She did it multiple times in that game. She also did NOT hop on bandwagons just to blend in; if anything she did the opposite.

A Person wrote:It sort of reminded me of some of vomp's writing, like Ellen's Oiled Vagina.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

DFaraday wrote:Okay, I'm really starting to apply myself in the game. I went over Rico's posts, and the results are muddled.

He maintained a Vomps suspicion (like basically everyone else) for much of the early game, and briefly mentioned suspicion of SVS and Roxy in connection to Vomps.

Later on, after Vomps was lynched, Rico had something of a row with Dom over Dom's less than enthusiastic reaction to BWT's rezz. As someone who is always a bit leery of such things anyway, I don't see anything suspicious in Dom's behavior. Rico felt like he was pressing the issue a bit much, imo.

Finally, he has begun looking more closely at MM, noting that MM has contributed to civvie lynches (although that's pretty much all we've had), and questioning MM's suspicion of Roxy.

I need to look over Dom, MM, and Roxy to see how this all comes together.

If that's going to be your reason, I could name a handful of players who've contributed to more civvie lynches than I have. Regardless, contributing to civvie lynches isn't a baddie sign. Voting patterns would be better to look at.

MM, I didn't say I was suspecting you. I was saying that's what Rico said about you.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:I think SVS is suggesting that Roxy is Godard (vomps message partner) since she defended vomps, because how else would Roxy be certain of vomps being civ while also being civ? If Roxy is civ and she knew vomps was civ, there would be no reason to entertain a vote for him.

I might be wrong about what SVS is insinuating, but that's how I read it.

How would I know such a thing? I did consider it but those roles can't out to each other according to the first page.

Not sure why my opinion means so much to the two of you, you seem to have spent the whole day talking about it.