The Syndicate

thellama73 wrote:How did I "set up" LC? I defended him at every opportunity. Sophie, you keep saying things that are blatantly untrue and expecting people to believe them.

Sophie wrote:

rabbit8 wrote:

It was brought up by LC. He made a whole case on how Lama set him up. It was very convincing. And Yes he calls me out too. Like that's a suprize.

Long Con wrote:Day 1 Lynch poll
Day 2 Lynch poll
Day 3 Lynch poll
Day 4 Lynch poll
Day 5 Lynch poll

Day 1: Llama votes for his teammate, Zombarella. Votes off the main stream to start establishing a pattern of being the only voter for someone.

Day 2: Llama is the only one to vote for Elohcin

Day 3: Llama is the only one to vote for Elohcin (poll was reset after his early vote, but it still counted)

Day 4: Llama is the only vote for Zombarella

Day 5: Llama votes off the main stretch again, for Zombarella

Llama is casting these votes because he's a baddie, and he doesn't want Judge Doom's effect to cause a disruption in his voting pattern.

He's voting Zombarella for distancing, because she is his teammate.

This will probably be my last living post, unless RK Maroon is alive and wants to save me.

Watch the voting patterns, people. They tell all. Lynch Rabbit too, that's just fine. Thanks for the giggles.

i was reading rabbit posts and came across this. This is the case LC did on llama. Maybe LC did want revenge of the baddies who set him up, and he KNEW llama was bad because he made him vote off -for me, maybe-. What do u think of this?

fingersplints wrote:I sent Elo's name in for my one night submission. No offense to Golden, but Elo was the last confirmed civvie to be killed. I always go with the last out because they are usually still the most into the game.

I don't think it's on topic to say - that I have done a very careful reread of the entire thread. Rezz please!

I won't be offended if Elo is rezzed, though.

fingersplints wrote:I don't really have much of a case on him canuck. Just based on narrowing down some things. And LC also thought he was bad. I need to read back and see if that suspicion continue. rabbit was accusing LC from early on. I would guess rabbit would be one of the first LC would try to control the vote of.

I'll try and reread some people later and see if I can reevaluate a couple possibilites.

Canucklehead wrote:

fingersplints wrote:I don't really have much of a case on him canuck. Just based on narrowing down some things. And LC also thought he was bad. I need to read back and see if that suspicion continue. rabbit was accusing LC from early on. I would guess rabbit would be one of the first LC would try to control the vote of.

I'll try and reread some people later and see if I can reevaluate a couple possibilites.

Interesting...I dunno if rabbit has any forced votes, though? Maybe when he voted MP instead of LC?
But also, I don't know that LC would've been able to target "rabbit". It seems more likely we would've had to target "Stupid" or "greasy", so I dont think his likelihood to target rabbit matters?

Zomberella12 wrote:@Llama and MP - How to you feel about Golden's vote? Is it legit?

linki - I was thinking the same think about Llama.

@ Golden - You do have a case against Aces, but it's not really fair to say that the case on MM is pointless. I brought it up earlier too. Early votes, even self-votes, aren't helpful and could be a signal of a baddie trying to hide. Have you ever seen a baddie do this before? If yes, then it is fair to look at MM and Llama too. I'm just saying that we don't have very much to go on yet. If we vote Aces and he flips civ, then we just lost a huge asset. If we vote MM or Llama and they flip civ, then we just lost a joker early voter. I'm still trying to decide where to put my vote (and that does not make me a flip-floper! It makes me thoughtful).

Zomberella12 wrote:Okay. I've been reading and reading and I need to just make a decision.

I don't like Rabbit's playstyle (I think it's abusive), Rabbit seems sophisticated enough to run a chaos baddie campaign (which is what I think is happening), Golden thinks Rabbit is bad and I'm trusting Golden (partly because of the curse), LC things Rabbit is misguided (or bad).

I don't like MM's playstyle (I think it's basically missing), MM deflected a lynch to a baddie somehow (possibly to make himself look civ - possibly by accident), ...you know...I'm convincing myself that I want to vote for Rabbit. This is not the first time I have brought up Rabbit. If you want more info re my vote, read my previous posts.

**VOTES RABBIT**

Zomberella12 wrote: RIP Golden. Even when cursed, you were a helpful civ. I will miss you.

If MP had a switch, why did he need to vote Rabbit to save himself? This result makes me think that the baddies are experienced (and possibly sadistic) players. Having Aces flip bad, made Golden look good. Now having Golden flip good, makes MP look bad. Maybe there's more than one lynch switch power. This is too much thinking for a Friday night.

Here is my sexy song.
http://youtu.be/5Il1ivUR-2E

fingersplints wrote:I don't buy it. when do you think LC supposedly forced llama's vote? His votes have been very consistant this whole game

Canucklehead wrote:

fingersplints wrote:I don't really have much of a case on him canuck. Just based on narrowing down some things. And LC also thought he was bad. I need to read back and see if that suspicion continue. rabbit was accusing LC from early on. I would guess rabbit would be one of the first LC would try to control the vote of.

I'll try and reread some people later and see if I can reevaluate a couple possibilites.

Interesting...I dunno if rabbit has any forced votes, though? Maybe when he voted MP instead of LC?
But also, I don't know that LC would've been able to target "rabbit". It seems more likely we would've had to target "Stupid" or "greasy", so I dont think his likelihood to target rabbit matters?

Lena Hyena wrote:Splints, I agree with MP's analysis of the first three lynches. I do not see any civilian reason for the lynch of Golden. He had no votes. No matter what happened, even if it was a rogue civilian who killed golden, I do not consider him to be lynched by the town. Are you trying to express that we should not be convinced that Golden was a civilian and that I should treat his words the same way as, say, Elo's words?

Lena Hyena wrote:

Zomberella12 wrote:Okay. I've been reading and reading and I need to just make a decision.

I don't like Rabbit's playstyle (I think it's abusive), Rabbit seems sophisticated enough to run a chaos baddie campaign (which is what I think is happening), Golden thinks Rabbit is bad and I'm trusting Golden (partly because of the curse), LC things Rabbit is misguided (or bad).

I don't like MM's playstyle (I think it's basically missing), MM deflected a lynch to a baddie somehow (possibly to make himself look civ - possibly by accident), ...you know...I'm convincing myself that I want to vote for Rabbit. This is not the first time I have brought up Rabbit. If you want more info re my vote, read my previous posts.

**VOTES RABBIT**

Zombie pre Golden lynch - when I believe she knew she could do and say whatever she wanted and Golden would still be lynched.

Zomberella12 wrote: RIP Golden. Even when cursed, you were a helpful civ. I will miss you.

If MP had a switch, why did he need to vote Rabbit to save himself? This result makes me think that the baddies are experienced (and possibly sadistic) players. Having Aces flip bad, made Golden look good. Now having Golden flip good, makes MP look bad. Maybe there's more than one lynch switch power. This is too much thinking for a Friday night.

Here is my sexy song.
http://youtu.be/5Il1ivUR-2E

Zombie post Golden lynch - why did this make MP look bad as opposed to rabbit - someone with nearly as many votes. Given the first lynch, wouldn't the baddies be just as worried if they had the second most votes?

linki - fingersplints. I trust Golden's words because he was civ, although I don't know how much of what he had to say was fact and how much speculation. I also trust the words of those whose role I think I have figured out as specific civilian roles. Elo and Niju are not included in those people.

rabbit8 wrote:

Lena Hyena wrote:Splints, I agree with MP's analysis of the first three lynches. I do not see any civilian reason for the lynch of Golden. He had no votes. No matter what happened, even if it was a rogue civilian who killed golden, I do not consider him to be lynched by the town. Are you trying to express that we should not be convinced that Golden was a civilian and that I should treat his words the same way as, say, Elo's words?

How in the world would you draw that conclusion from what FS said?

Lena Hyena wrote:Splints, I agree with MP's analysis of the first three lynches. I do not see any civilian reason for the lynch of Golden. He had no votes. No matter what happened, even if it was a rogue civilian who killed golden, I do not consider him to be lynched by the town. Are you trying to express that we should not be convinced that Golden was a civilian and that I should treat his words the same way as, say, Elo's words?

Lena Hyena wrote:

rabbit8 wrote:

Lena Hyena wrote:Splints, I agree with MP's analysis of the first three lynches. I do not see any civilian reason for the lynch of Golden. He had no votes. No matter what happened, even if it was a rogue civilian who killed golden, I do not consider him to be lynched by the town. Are you trying to express that we should not be convinced that Golden was a civilian and that I should treat his words the same way as, say, Elo's words?

How in the world would you draw that conclusion from what FS said?

I don't understand FS's post at all, and draw no conclusions from it. But, I did ask the question which I thought would be most likely to clarify what FS did mean.

blindfaeth wrote:

So glad you're taking this seriously rabbit.

Linki.

rabbit8 wrote:

Lena Hyena wrote:

Zomberella12 wrote:Okay. I've been reading and reading and I need to just make a decision.

I don't like Rabbit's playstyle (I think it's abusive), Rabbit seems sophisticated enough to run a chaos baddie campaign (which is what I think is happening), Golden thinks Rabbit is bad and I'm trusting Golden (partly because of the curse), LC things Rabbit is misguided (or bad).

I don't like MM's playstyle (I think it's basically missing), MM deflected a lynch to a baddie somehow (possibly to make himself look civ - possibly by accident), ...you know...I'm convincing myself that I want to vote for Rabbit. This is not the first time I have brought up Rabbit. If you want more info re my vote, read my previous posts.

**VOTES RABBIT**

Zombie pre Golden lynch - when I believe she knew she could do and say whatever she wanted and Golden would still be lynched.

Zomberella12 wrote: RIP Golden. Even when cursed, you were a helpful civ. I will miss you.

If MP had a switch, why did he need to vote Rabbit to save himself? This result makes me think that the baddies are experienced (and possibly sadistic) players. Having Aces flip bad, made Golden look good. Now having Golden flip good, makes MP look bad. Maybe there's more than one lynch switch power. This is too much thinking for a Friday night.

Here is my sexy song.
http://youtu.be/5Il1ivUR-2E

Zombie post Golden lynch - why did this make MP look bad as opposed to rabbit - someone with nearly as many votes. Given the first lynch, wouldn't the baddies be just as worried if they had the second most votes?

linki - fingersplints. I trust Golden's words because he was civ, although I don't know how much of what he had to say was fact and how much speculation. I also trust the words of those whose role I think I have figured out as specific civilian roles. Elo and Niju are not included in those people.

lol, Ok so she wants me to get lynched. What's your point? You think this was her distancing herself from me?
Yeah, OK. Right.

Lena Hyena wrote:

rabbit8 wrote:

Lena Hyena wrote:Splints, I agree with MP's analysis of the first three lynches. I do not see any civilian reason for the lynch of Golden. He had no votes. No matter what happened, even if it was a rogue civilian who killed golden, I do not consider him to be lynched by the town. Are you trying to express that we should not be convinced that Golden was a civilian and that I should treat his words the same way as, say, Elo's words?

How in the world would you draw that conclusion from what FS said?

I don't understand FS's post at all, and draw no conclusions from it. But, I did ask the question which I thought would be most likely to clarify what FS did mean.

fingersplints wrote:

Lena Hyena wrote:

rabbit8 wrote:

Lena Hyena wrote:Splints, I agree with MP's analysis of the first three lynches. I do not see any civilian reason for the lynch of Golden. He had no votes. No matter what happened, even if it was a rogue civilian who killed golden, I do not consider him to be lynched by the town. Are you trying to express that we should not be convinced that Golden was a civilian and that I should treat his words the same way as, say, Elo's words?

How in the world would you draw that conclusion from what FS said?

I don't understand FS's post at all, and draw no conclusions from it. But, I did ask the question which I thought would be most likely to clarify what FS did mean.

What exactly don't you understand? I am honestly confused by your confusion. I trust dead lynched Golden. I trust dead NK'd Elo.

Lena Hyena wrote:

rabbit8 wrote:

Lena Hyena wrote:

Zomberella12 wrote:Okay. I've been reading and reading and I need to just make a decision.

I don't like Rabbit's playstyle (I think it's abusive), Rabbit seems sophisticated enough to run a chaos baddie campaign (which is what I think is happening), Golden thinks Rabbit is bad and I'm trusting Golden (partly because of the curse), LC things Rabbit is misguided (or bad).

I don't like MM's playstyle (I think it's basically missing), MM deflected a lynch to a baddie somehow (possibly to make himself look civ - possibly by accident), ...you know...I'm convincing myself that I want to vote for Rabbit. This is not the first time I have brought up Rabbit. If you want more info re my vote, read my previous posts.

**VOTES RABBIT**

Zombie pre Golden lynch - when I believe she knew she could do and say whatever she wanted and Golden would still be lynched.

Zomberella12 wrote: RIP Golden. Even when cursed, you were a helpful civ. I will miss you.

If MP had a switch, why did he need to vote Rabbit to save himself? This result makes me think that the baddies are experienced (and possibly sadistic) players. Having Aces flip bad, made Golden look good. Now having Golden flip good, makes MP look bad. Maybe there's more than one lynch switch power. This is too much thinking for a Friday night.

Here is my sexy song.
http://youtu.be/5Il1ivUR-2E

Zombie post Golden lynch - why did this make MP look bad as opposed to rabbit - someone with nearly as many votes. Given the first lynch, wouldn't the baddies be just as worried if they had the second most votes?

linki - fingersplints. I trust Golden's words because he was civ, although I don't know how much of what he had to say was fact and how much speculation. I also trust the words of those whose role I think I have figured out as specific civilian roles. Elo and Niju are not included in those people.

lol, Ok so she wants me to get lynched. What's your point? You think this was her distancing herself from me?
Yeah, OK. Right.

This is funny, because... ?

The only day she voted for you is a day I believe she already knew who was being lynched. If you want any more evidence of the fact zombie knew who was going to be lynched, read zombie's posts around the day two lynch... they read very much as a fiction designed to sound surprised. Zombie's posts around the day 2 lynch leave me in no doubt that the day 2 lynch was a baddie lynch switch.

At this point I make my suspect list based entirely on the posts of zombie from the beginning of the game to the point she died. I feel like her posts make MP and llama very likely civvies, while I think of the three I suspect could be bad (sophie, bea, rabbit) they make you look the worst. I'm not convinced I'm right - but laughing at me isn't going to help you look good. Actually your first two posts make me think your agenda is to discredit me. I don't agree with you that llama is bad. What else have you got?

blindfaeth wrote:I have to agree. The first thing I thought when I saw rabbit post was that he was trying to discredit Lena.

Obviously, I'm not sure if she's right, but I think she is mostly on the right track and trusting the right people. Lena can you clarify why you're so convinced llama is good?

thellama73 wrote:Why did the rabbit cross the road?
He wanted to get fur away.

Lena Hyena wrote:I was just posting my thoughts. I was not expecting all out war or attack. Apologies, I'm not going to engage in a spitting match.

My view is very simple. Someone framed Roger Rabbit. I do not believe it was llama. I believe Zombie's posts could hold the key. If you want to catch baddies, then engage with me instead of trying to discredit me.