Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 3]
Posted: Wed May 27, 2015 11:45 am
MovingPictures07 wrote:People usually don't catch or laugh at my jokes, it's OK. As a fellow accountant, G-Man, I'm sure you can relate. :P

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Murder, Mayhem, and Mafia
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MovingPictures07 wrote:People usually don't catch or laugh at my jokes, it's OK. As a fellow accountant, G-Man, I'm sure you can relate. :P
Of the names currently being fielded by most people (aether, BR, TH, and splints), which would you be most willing to vote for?sanmateo wrote:i would rather vote mp or ddl tho but i'm gonna hold onto my vote til the end this time
She has run into trouble in some recent games for low effort and apathetic play. This game might fit thr bill. I think she knows mafia well enough to realize her behavior will be viewed with suspicion.Dragon D. Luffy wrote:When you are able to, could you elaborate on that?JaggedJimmyJay wrote:There is some precedent at least for aether playing this way as town.
Since aether can't defend herself to save her life it seems others will have to do that for her.
What do you mean by moving the goalposts?sanmateo wrote:did i say that? i feel like you are moving the goalposts but what makes her more suspicious is the fact she said she was gonna drop out and then voted for a player (who the mafia would assume was a townie) who had 3 votes on already, and then she said it was pointless to analyze the lynchMovingPictures07 wrote:Therefore, even though I may vote aether nonetheless, I do want to discuss others.
And sanmateo, you say her d2 vote makes her more suspicious than BR, splints, and TH. Can you elaborate on why?
sanmateo wrote:her vote on day 2MovingPictures07 wrote:I will admit the push towards aether today does make me a bit nervous though. I feel like it'll be really easy for people to come in here and hop on the aether wagon. I know aether's behavior has warranted suspicion (something I've expressed), but I don't know what makes her any more suspicious than BR, splints, TH, or even anyone else (such as Vomps or G-Man) in terms of lack of contribution.
Does her behavior strike you more as sincere apathy or an attempt to milk that perception as a mafia, knowing that defense of her would arise?JaggedJimmyJay wrote:She has run into trouble in some recent games for low effort and apathetic play. This game might fit thr bill. I think she knows mafia well enough to realize her behavior will be viewed with suspicion.Dragon D. Luffy wrote:When you are able to, could you elaborate on that?JaggedJimmyJay wrote:There is some precedent at least for aether playing this way as town.
Since aether can't defend herself to save her life it seems others will have to do that for her.
But that doesn't exonerate her. She's a suspect by default until she provides a reason not to be.
I was asking my question honestly (not sure how you interpreted it), but nice joke. :Psanmateo wrote:nevermind then, i guess you were being transparent
At least i can say that she might not know that defense would arise. She's been lynched or nearly lynched a few times because of this, so there isn't much safety in the method.MovingPictures07 wrote:Does her behavior strike you more as sincere apathy or an attempt to milk that perception as a mafia, knowing that defense of her would arise?JaggedJimmyJay wrote:She has run into trouble in some recent games for low effort and apathetic play. This game might fit thr bill. I think she knows mafia well enough to realize her behavior will be viewed with suspicion.Dragon D. Luffy wrote:When you are able to, could you elaborate on that?JaggedJimmyJay wrote:There is some precedent at least for aether playing this way as town.
Since aether can't defend herself to save her life it seems others will have to do that for her.
But that doesn't exonerate her. She's a suspect by default until she provides a reason not to be.
I really can't win with you MP. I'm going to have to reread your posts because I don't recall you asking me over and over again for my thoughts. Just the once, which I did. I think it's highly unfair to say I 'barely delivered' because I haven't posted as much as others.MovingPictures07 wrote:In fact, the fact that I kept asking splints over and over again for thoughts on suspects, and that she's barely delivered (couldn't even name one, yet she named she still 'really suspects BR') about a cycle ago, and now all of a sudden she has a list of players from least trusted to most, based on only gut feels "I guess", and she didn't even vote for her own top suspect... it all really bothers me. But I don't know.
I'd like to talk this out with others, but I need to really get this take home exam done. Ugh. I'll be back again.
I said I was undecided who was my top #1. Not that I didn't have ANY. And yes. 3 RL days ago I was undecided who # 1 suspect is. A lot of shit happens in 3 days.fingersplints wrote:Undecided who is my top. I'd like a couple of people to respond to some of those things first. The same people are talkingMovingPictures07 wrote:Splints, top suspect. Go. What are you thinking?
This is also not true and is stretching even for you MP. I did in no way say my entire list is builton 'gut feels'.MovingPictures07 wrote:It's just... what suspicions she has other than BR seem fabricated in a way to ride the tide of the thread. She didn't really seem to suspect aether at all until the tide of the thread started heavily turning that way, that's what I meant.JaggedJimmyJay wrote:MP, what did splints say recently that struck you as slippery?
Even now, she voted for aether even though she blatantly admits BR is still her top suspect, and she says her list is built on "gut feels".
It is a 'gut feel' that allowed me to rank JJJ slightly more town then DDL, but it isn't a 'gut feel' about everyone.fingersplints wrote:I voted for aether. I made you a list of most to least suspicious. A whole bunch in the middle I don't know if I could really justify why I ranked one higher then the other. just gut feels I guessDragon D. Luffy wrote:Not anything particularly.
But since you're asking, is there anyone you're suspecting besides BR?
Black Rock
Acrosstheaether
birdwithteeth11
Turnip Head
MovingPictures07
TinyBubbles
sanmateo
Dragon D. Luffy
JaggedJimmyJay
G-Man
Bass_the_Clever
Vompatti
Roxy
fingersplints
I didn't go from only suspecting BR. There are more then one baddie so I was never only going to suspect one person. Days went on and I developed more suspicions. I don't see that how is unclear or fabricated.MovingPictures07 wrote:I'm voting BR, I won't have time to come back before the deadline. This final exam is killing me.
Splints, I just don't understand how you go from only really suspecting BR to being able to rank literally everyone in the game, but with no explanation other than "just gut feels I guess". Can you not see how that seems unclear or perhaps fabricated?
I never said you weren't allowed to vote for whomever you want. That's false. I just don't understand why you're voting aether when you suspect BR more heavily, except for the fact that people started suddenly pushing towards an aether vote. Seems opportunistic.
What does "interesting" mean? You suspect me or not? That's vague as hell. Am I not allowed to question you while voting for someone else?
why did you vote for acrosstheaether over either of them?fingersplints wrote:MovingPictures07 wrote:I
I don't think it's vague as hell at all. It's pretty crystal clear. You and BR are teammates and you have been suspecting her without much reason or conviction while it's clear you "suspect" me more. Are you serious with that last question? Because you have literally been suspecting me for voting aether despite the fact that I also suspect BR. Quite a double standard that you expect to be held to different expectations then you are giving for everyone else.
First off, I don't suspect you more than BR. Hence why I'm voting BR. Where have I ever said I suspect you more? Hence there's no double standard.fingersplints wrote:I didn't go from only suspecting BR. There are more then one baddie so I was never only going to suspect one person. Days went on and I developed more suspicions. I don't see that how is unclear or fabricated.MovingPictures07 wrote:I'm voting BR, I won't have time to come back before the deadline. This final exam is killing me.
Splints, I just don't understand how you go from only really suspecting BR to being able to rank literally everyone in the game, but with no explanation other than "just gut feels I guess". Can you not see how that seems unclear or perhaps fabricated?
I never said you weren't allowed to vote for whomever you want. That's false. I just don't understand why you're voting aether when you suspect BR more heavily, except for the fact that people started suddenly pushing towards an aether vote. Seems opportunistic.
What does "interesting" mean? You suspect me or not? That's vague as hell. Am I not allowed to question you while voting for someone else?
I ranked everyone because it's really getting exhausting to feel like you are being accused of bad for not making a list![]()
you said I was suspicious for not voting BR despite that you keep pushing that.
That is not false. You implied not voting BR was wrong while still suspecting BR yourself. And more people are pushing BR then aether. Wouldn't it have made more sense to stick with my BR vote? No I votes aether early for pressure and because it isn't even the slightest oppurtunistic
I don't think it's vague as hell at all. It's pretty crystal clear. You and BR are teammates and you have been suspecting her without much reason or conviction while it's clear you "suspect" me more. Are you serious with that last question? Because you have literally been suspecting me for voting aether despite the fact that I also suspect BR. Quite a double standard that you expect to be held to different expectations then you are giving for everyone else.
sanmateo wrote:why did you vote for acrosstheaether over either of them?fingersplints wrote:MovingPictures07 wrote:I
I don't think it's vague as hell at all. It's pretty crystal clear. You and BR are teammates and you have been suspecting her without much reason or conviction while it's clear you "suspect" me more. Are you serious with that last question? Because you have literally been suspecting me for voting aether despite the fact that I also suspect BR. Quite a double standard that you expect to be held to different expectations then you are giving for everyone else.
Because I think aether is bad too.sanmateo wrote:why did you vote for acrosstheaether over either of them?fingersplints wrote:MovingPictures07 wrote:I
I don't think it's vague as hell at all. It's pretty crystal clear. You and BR are teammates and you have been suspecting her without much reason or conviction while it's clear you "suspect" me more. Are you serious with that last question? Because you have literally been suspecting me for voting aether despite the fact that I also suspect BR. Quite a double standard that you expect to be held to different expectations then you are giving for everyone else.
don't you think it would've been more convenient to vote black rock that way you could confirm at least half of your theory of them being teammates is right? then you could move forward on the next day knowing whether or not you are right or wrong. that's how i would act if i thought it was crystal clear that 2 players were linked. voting for a third player who i also think is bad seems counter-productive when you are THAT surefingersplints wrote:Because I think aether is bad too.sanmateo wrote:why did you vote for acrosstheaether over either of them?fingersplints wrote:MovingPictures07 wrote:I
I don't think it's vague as hell at all. It's pretty crystal clear. You and BR are teammates and you have been suspecting her without much reason or conviction while it's clear you "suspect" me more. Are you serious with that last question? Because you have literally been suspecting me for voting aether despite the fact that I also suspect BR. Quite a double standard that you expect to be held to different expectations then you are giving for everyone else.
It's because she's lying.sanmateo wrote:don't you think it would've been more convenient to vote black rock that way you could confirm at least half of your theory of them being teammates is right? then you could move forward on the next day knowing whether or not you are right or wrong. that's how i would act if i thought it was crystal clear that 2 players were linked. voting for a third player who i also think is bad seems counter-productive when you are THAT surefingersplints wrote:Because I think aether is bad too.sanmateo wrote:why did you vote for acrosstheaether over either of them?fingersplints wrote:MovingPictures07 wrote:I
I don't think it's vague as hell at all. It's pretty crystal clear. You and BR are teammates and you have been suspecting her without much reason or conviction while it's clear you "suspect" me more. Are you serious with that last question? Because you have literally been suspecting me for voting aether despite the fact that I also suspect BR. Quite a double standard that you expect to be held to different expectations then you are giving for everyone else.
When did I ever say I think that?Bass_the_Clever wrote:Yeah its been pretty dead in here. DDL why do you think Splints would be a better lynch?
Because I'm a civvie. I'm not voting for what's convenient I'm voting based off what I think. I'm not sure as in I don't have info on anyone and I don't have any reason to think either has a more threatening role, so voting for another person I am suspicious of is exactly the same to me.sanmateo wrote:don't you think it would've been more convenient to vote black rock that way you could confirm at least half of your theory of them being teammates is right? then you could move forward on the next day knowing whether or not you are right or wrong. that's how i would act if i thought it was crystal clear that 2 players were linked. voting for a third player who i also think is bad seems counter-productive when you are THAT surefingersplints wrote:Because I think aether is bad too.sanmateo wrote:why did you vote for acrosstheaether over either of them?fingersplints wrote:MovingPictures07 wrote:I
I don't think it's vague as hell at all. It's pretty crystal clear. You and BR are teammates and you have been suspecting her without much reason or conviction while it's clear you "suspect" me more. Are you serious with that last question? Because you have literally been suspecting me for voting aether despite the fact that I also suspect BR. Quite a double standard that you expect to be held to different expectations then you are giving for everyone else.
My Bad Sanmateo said it.Dragon D. Luffy wrote:When did I ever say I think that?Bass_the_Clever wrote:Yeah its been pretty dead in here. DDL why do you think Splints would be a better lynch?
MovingPictures07 wrote:I do wish we had lynched splints today, but I did feel better about the BR case until these very recent posts by splints. Hopefully BR is still bad.
but you said it was crystal clear both of them were bad, seeing how you focused on black rock earlier wouldnt it make sense to have voted for them? if you have 3/4 of the mafia team figured out by now i'm sorry but i dont believe you dofingersplints wrote:Because I'm a civvie. I'm not voting for what's convenient I'm voting based off what I think. I'm not sure as in I don't have info on anyone and I don't have any reason to think either has a more threatening role, so voting for another person I am suspicious of is exactly the same to me.sanmateo wrote:don't you think it would've been more convenient to vote black rock that way you could confirm at least half of your theory of them being teammates is right? then you could move forward on the next day knowing whether or not you are right or wrong. that's how i would act if i thought it was crystal clear that 2 players were linked. voting for a third player who i also think is bad seems counter-productive when you are THAT surefingersplints wrote:Because I think aether is bad too.sanmateo wrote:why did you vote for acrosstheaether over either of them?fingersplints wrote:MovingPictures07 wrote:I
I don't think it's vague as hell at all. It's pretty crystal clear. You and BR are teammates and you have been suspecting her without much reason or conviction while it's clear you "suspect" me more. Are you serious with that last question? Because you have literally been suspecting me for voting aether despite the fact that I also suspect BR. Quite a double standard that you expect to be held to different expectations then you are giving for everyone else.
she thinks its crystal clear that 2 persons are bad but then she votes for someone else. that's a pretty obvious scum-tell imoBass_the_Clever wrote:My Bad Sanmateo said it.Dragon D. Luffy wrote:When did I ever say I think that?Bass_the_Clever wrote:Yeah its been pretty dead in here. DDL why do you think Splints would be a better lynch?
fingersplints wrote:MovingPictures07 wrote:I do wish we had lynched splints today, but I did feel better about the BR case until these very recent posts by splints. Hopefully BR is still bad.
I see what MM was on about the transparent thing now. no wonder you killed him.
The poll end time is listed at the top of the poll itself. 4:57pm (I assume you're on Central time?), which has passed.sanmateo wrote:why is the poll closed its not 5 pm yet -_________________-