The Syndicate

Canucklehead wrote:

Draconus wrote:Putting my vote on Canuck. Really right now my only suspicion of her is because of her Luke vote. It reeked of indifferent baddie bandwagon voting...ness. But seriously, though, her vote post did strike me as that of a mafia member throwing her vote on the tail end of a bandwagon to attempt to blend in with the rest.

Linki: I think it's worth noting that my vote here has nothing to do with Typhoony's defense post of Juliets. I still am unsure of how to feel about her myself.

I was like the second or third vote on him? Lol.

Epignosis wrote:I don't get why Canucklehead is more suspicious to some people than juliets.

Turnip Head wrote:

Typhoony wrote:

Turnip Head wrote:Why is Typh voting for Canuck? His post history reveals nothing. lol all his posts are about juliets

When I went to vote MarshMellow, I realized that I would rather not vote for someone that I don't remember receiving a vote yet. So I voted for Canuck, who did receive a vote yesterday and who did ping me as I said when I went over the case on Juliets. You even quoted the damn post.
Next time, please actually read my post history before claiming something is or is not in it.

Sorry, I was talking about your posts toDay, specifically looking for a post where you mentioned voting for her. It's why I asked.

Why would you rather not vote someone who doesn't have a vote?

Matt F wrote:

Matt F wrote:

DrWilgy wrote:Voted LoRab. His last post tipped the decision. He continues to not accurately describe his initial slip post or characterize what pinged several people. And his defenses in general continue to make him more suspish.

LoRab's a chica. Unless she's already had the operation.

Ummmmm Zebra, I just realized you might not think that was funny. Just so ya know, I support the LGBT community very much, and I was just being immature right there.

Linki - Okey dokey Luke was bad. Don't lynch me, town.

Canucklehead wrote:Sigh. I love how every single person with a case against me has fastidiously avoided the central question I keep repeating: why do my actions make me bad instead of simply un-civ?

You're all wrong, and you're wasting a lynch, and I hope those who are pursuing a civ victory look carefully at how purposefully the people pushing my lunch avoided acknowledging the very large grey area that is a part of this game's set up, and that certain folks refuse to take into account.

I'm not bad, folks. Move along.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Canucklehead wrote:Sigh. I love how every single person with a case against me has fastidiously avoided the central question I keep repeating: why do my actions make me bad instead of simply un-civ?

You're all wrong, and you're wasting a lynch, and I hope those who are pursuing a civ victory look carefully at how purposefully the people pushing my lunch avoided acknowledging the very large grey area that is a part of this game's set up, and that certain folks refuse to take into account.

I'm not bad, folks. Move along.

I asked you a couple questions in the process, which you have avoided.

Here's a couple more: Who are your current top 3 suspects? If you could lynch a player by yourself who would it be, and why? What is your opinion of Typhoony?

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

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Canucklehead wrote:I'd be willing to switch my vote to Juliets for sure. Forgot that she had been the top (and only) name on my suspect list.:.

Day 4: Says she would switch to juliets for being her only suspect. Bad look. Why would she not vote her originally, how could she forget her one and only suspect, and what made her suddenly not interested in lynching Luke anymore?

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

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Canucklehead wrote:I'd be willing to switch my vote to Juliets for sure. Forgot that she had been the top (and only) name on my suspect list.:.

Day 4: Says she would switch to juliets for being her only suspect. Bad look. Why would she not vote her originally, how could she forget her one and only suspect, and what made her suddenly not interested in lynching Luke anymore?

sig wrote:

DFaraday wrote:I think better of Sig after that Luke lynch. Since Nutella turned out not to be part of a baddie team, I think the best place to look would be people potentially trying to save Luke in the previous lynch.

Okay that is good to know, what do you think about Floyd, Tranq did mention him a few times and voted for him, but I'm not sure if that plays into his death.

@Sorsha Any idea who might have killed Tranq?

I'll need to look over juliets, but I do think someone who mildly defended Luke or didn't vote for him and picked a solo vote is a teammate.

fingersplints wrote:TH: Because I don't agree with your points on someone it does not mean I thought you were bad. I thought you were wrong, but that you had good intentions. I was looking forward to discussing Dom with you more before you were killed. I had reread him some from other games and I became less confident about him being a civvie. That suspicion seems to have dropped off anyways
Now I don't get the same feeling about you having good intetnions. I wouldn't say I suspect you yet. Hopefully the results of this lynch will help me decide about a few people.

DFaraday wrote:

sig wrote:

DFaraday wrote:I think better of Sig after that Luke lynch. Since Nutella turned out not to be part of a baddie team, I think the best place to look would be people potentially trying to save Luke in the previous lynch.

Okay that is good to know, what do you think about Floyd, Tranq did mention him a few times and voted for him, but I'm not sure if that plays into his death.

@Sorsha Any idea who might have killed Tranq?

I'll need to look over juliets, but I do think someone who mildly defended Luke or didn't vote for him and picked a solo vote is a teammate.

I think Floyd is a strong possibility for being Luke's teammate, given not only Tranq's comments, but Floyd's RIP to Luke and vote for Nutella when it was still very close between Luke and Nutella.

Matt F's defense of Luke and attempt to sway votes off of him catches my eye too.

I'm not really convinced by the Canuck case. She voted Luke early in the day, which seems like an odd strategy for a baddie teammate. Juliets is reading civ to me, but she always does.

For right now I'll vote Floyd.

Canucklehead wrote:Sigh. I love how every single person with a case against me has fastidiously avoided the central question I keep repeating: why do my actions make me bad instead of simply un-civ?

You're all wrong, and you're wasting a lynch, and I hope those who are pursuing a civ victory look carefully at how purposefully the people pushing my lunch avoided acknowledging the very large grey area that is a part of this game's set up, and that certain folks refuse to take into account.

I'm not bad, folks. Move along.

Dom wrote:

fingersplints wrote:TH: Because I don't agree with your points on someone it does not mean I thought you were bad. I thought you were wrong, but that you had good intentions. I was looking forward to discussing Dom with you more before you were killed. I had reread him some from other games and I became less confident about him being a civvie. That suspicion seems to have dropped off anyways
Now I don't get the same feeling about you having good intetnions. I wouldn't say I suspect you yet. Hopefully the results of this lynch will help me decide about a few people.

This reads rather contrived to me.


What games didyou read?

LoRab wrote:

Canucklehead wrote:Sigh. I love how every single person with a case against me has fastidiously avoided the central question I keep repeating: why do my actions make me bad instead of simply un-civ?

You're all wrong, and you're wasting a lynch, and I hope those who are pursuing a civ victory look carefully at how purposefully the people pushing my lunch avoided acknowledging the very large grey area that is a part of this game's set up, and that certain folks refuse to take into account.

I'm not bad, folks. Move along.

So, you're indy? Hmmmm...K-nuk Indy....not sure I'd want to trust that...

Canucklehead wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

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Canucklehead wrote:I'd be willing to switch my vote to Juliets for sure. Forgot that she had been the top (and only) name on my suspect list.:.

Day 4: Says she would switch to juliets for being her only suspect. Bad look. Why would she not vote her originally, how could she forget her one and only suspect, and what made her suddenly not interested in lynching Luke anymore?

It's a bit disingenuous to say that I avoided those questions, MM. The grammar of your post (addressing the questions in the third person rather than the second) casts them as rhetorical questions for you audience to consider, not actual questions for me to answer. Had you wanted answers from me, specifically, why did you not address the questions to me, specifically?
This looks like some opportunistic ret-conning on your part, MM. Trying to make me look badder than I already look by suggesting I am avoiding questioning. I am not avoiding questions, I just don't consider rhetorical questions to be ones that are looking in good faith for answers. Those questions, as posed, don't care about answers; they are concerned only with planting seeds of doubt in the readers mind, because the answer already implied in the question is "because Canuck is a baddie".
That's not a question, that's sophistry.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Canucklehead wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Spoiler: show

Canucklehead wrote:I'd be willing to switch my vote to Juliets for sure. Forgot that she had been the top (and only) name on my suspect list.:.

Day 4: Says she would switch to juliets for being her only suspect. Bad look. Why would she not vote her originally, how could she forget her one and only suspect, and what made her suddenly not interested in lynching Luke anymore?

It's a bit disingenuous to say that I avoided those questions, MM. The grammar of your post (addressing the questions in the third person rather than the second) casts them as rhetorical questions for you audience to consider, not actual questions for me to answer. Had you wanted answers from me, specifically, why did you not address the questions to me, specifically?
This looks like some opportunistic ret-conning on your part, MM. Trying to make me look badder than I already look by suggesting I am avoiding questioning. I am not avoiding questions, I just don't consider rhetorical questions to be ones that are looking in good faith for answers. Those questions, as posed, don't care about answers; they are concerned only with planting seeds of doubt in the readers mind, because the answer already implied in the question is "because Canuck is a baddie".
That's not a question, that's sophistry.

Now that I've pointed them out to you as questions directed at you, will you answer them?

Typhoony wrote:There is a case on me? All I see is a bunch of my posts quoted with a "You're weirding me out".

Matt F wrote:DF - No I wasn't comfortable lynching two new players within the first four days, but we caught a baddie so it's all good.

I continue to look at Bullz and Metalmarsh for their Progressive votes, and other things (Bullz' response to my questioning of him surviving is iffy, and map stuff concerning MM). Turnip looks like he placed a vote on MM, but now seems to be looking at other candidates. Turnip do you think your vote will remain on MM, I might put a vote there.

Turnip Head wrote:

Matt F wrote:DF - No I wasn't comfortable lynching two new players within the first four days, but we caught a baddie so it's all good.

I continue to look at Bullz and Metalmarsh for their Progressive votes, and other things (Bullz' response to my questioning of him surviving is iffy, and map stuff concerning MM). Turnip looks like he placed a vote on MM, but now seems to be looking at other candidates. Turnip do you think your vote will remain on MM, I might put a vote there.

I might end up moving it.

What do you mean by Progressive votes?

Matt F wrote:DF - No I wasn't comfortable lynching two new players within the first four days, but we caught a baddie so it's all good.

I continue to look at Bullz and Metalmarsh for their Progressive votes, and other things (Bullz' response to my questioning of him surviving is iffy, and map stuff concerning MM). Turnip looks like he placed a vote on MM, but now seems to be looking at other candidates. Turnip do you think your vote will remain on MM, I might put a vote there.

Matt F wrote:The Day 0 poll, I believe, asked us to pick our fave music. Afterwards, Long Con told us that one civ, one baddie, and one indy were told that a possible outcome of the poll would be to have your name removed from the Day 1 poll if you vote progressive.

I can see MM being indy. Why do you think you'll move your vote from him?

Matt F wrote:Lol

Dang Bullz came outta nowhere to defend. What's up Bullz, besides sig, who you lookin' at

Linki - MM, gotcha. What are your feelings on Turnip Head?

Bullzeye wrote:

Matt F wrote:Lol

Dang Bullz came outta nowhere to defend. What's up Bullz, besides sig, who you lookin' at

Linki - MM, gotcha. What are your feelings on Turnip Head?

Am I still looking at Sig?

Matt F wrote:The Day 0 poll, I believe, asked us to pick our fave music. Afterwards, Long Con told us that one civ, one baddie, and one indy were told that a possible outcome of the poll would be to have your name removed from the Day 1 poll if you vote progressive.

Matt F wrote:I can see MM being indy. Why do you think you'll move your vote from him?

Matt F wrote:Lol

Dang Bullz came outta nowhere to defend. What's up Bullz, besides sig, who you lookin' at

Linki - MM, gotcha. What are your feelings on Turnip Head?

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Matt F wrote:Lol

Dang Bullz came outta nowhere to defend. What's up Bullz, besides sig, who you lookin' at

Linki - MM, gotcha. What are your feelings on Turnip Head?

He was a dead man, but he's no longer a dead man.

I feel neutral about him. He's a proactive Turnip, but I'm wary because he was killed by Dr Von Dreszenstein and rezzed pretty suddenly.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Matt F wrote:Lol

Dang Bullz came outta nowhere to defend. What's up Bullz, besides sig, who you lookin' at

Linki - MM, gotcha. What are your feelings on Turnip Head?

He was a dead man, but he's no longer a dead man.

I feel neutral about him. He's a proactive Turnip, but I'm wary because he was killed by Dr Von Dreszenstein and rezzed pretty suddenly.

Turnip Head wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Matt F wrote:Lol

Dang Bullz came outta nowhere to defend. What's up Bullz, besides sig, who you lookin' at

Linki - MM, gotcha. What are your feelings on Turnip Head?

He was a dead man, but he's no longer a dead man.

I feel neutral about him. He's a proactive Turnip, but I'm wary because he was killed by Dr Von Dreszenstein and rezzed pretty suddenly.

I was never really dead. Drezenstein ripped out my heart and experimented on me, then put me back together just the way I was.

Matt F wrote:

Bullzeye wrote:

Matt F wrote:Lol

Dang Bullz came outta nowhere to defend. What's up Bullz, besides sig, who you lookin' at

Linki - MM, gotcha. What are your feelings on Turnip Head?

Am I still looking at Sig?

Avoiding my question? Between Juliets and Floyd, G2H, who would you lynch? I'd lynch Floyd, personally.

LoRab wrote:Voted mac--my post reminded me of how suspicious I find him. I realize he likely won't be lynched this round, but putting a vote there as a statement of suspicion.

I'm comfortable with a juliets lynch, which seems to be where the thread is heading right now. K-nuk, also--I don't really trust indies, so...

Matt F wrote:What do you think of Canuckle, Bullz?

S~V~S wrote:

LoRab wrote:

Canucklehead wrote:Sigh. I love how every single person with a case against me has fastidiously avoided the central question I keep repeating: why do my actions make me bad instead of simply un-civ?

You're all wrong, and you're wasting a lynch, and I hope those who are pursuing a civ victory look carefully at how purposefully the people pushing my lunch avoided acknowledging the very large grey area that is a part of this game's set up, and that certain folks refuse to take into account.

I'm not bad, folks. Move along.

So, you're indy? Hmmmm...K-nuk Indy....not sure I'd want to trust that...

Why would I feel better about someone being an Indy if they are behaving in a way I thought to be opportunistic? Or misrepresenting their motivations? Some indies are civ centric, and some are not. Regardless of how huge the gray area is, and how many roles are in it, has no bearing on behavior. If you are acting like a baddie, as far as I am concerned, you are one. I see no reason for a civ friendly Indy to act like a baddie.

First you were a disinterested civ, now you are in a "gray area". I think you are scrambling.

Matt F wrote:

LoRab wrote:Voted mac--my post reminded me of how suspicious I find him. I realize he likely won't be lynched this round, but putting a vote there as a statement of suspicion.

I'm comfortable with a juliets lynch, which seems to be where the thread is heading right now. K-nuk, also--I don't really trust indies, so...

Help me vote MM? I think he's a baaaaaaad indy.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Canucklehead wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

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Canucklehead wrote:I'd be willing to switch my vote to Juliets for sure. Forgot that she had been the top (and only) name on my suspect list.:.

Day 4: Says she would switch to juliets for being her only suspect. Bad look. Why would she not vote her originally, how could she forget her one and only suspect, and what made her suddenly not interested in lynching Luke anymore?

It's a bit disingenuous to say that I avoided those questions, MM. The grammar of your post (addressing the questions in the third person rather than the second) casts them as rhetorical questions for you audience to consider, not actual questions for me to answer. Had you wanted answers from me, specifically, why did you not address the questions to me, specifically?
This looks like some opportunistic ret-conning on your part, MM. Trying to make me look badder than I already look by suggesting I am avoiding questioning. I am not avoiding questions, I just don't consider rhetorical questions to be ones that are looking in good faith for answers. Those questions, as posed, don't care about answers; they are concerned only with planting seeds of doubt in the readers mind, because the answer already implied in the question is "because Canuck is a baddie".
That's not a question, that's sophistry.

Now that I've pointed them out to you as questions directed at you, will you answer them?

Turnip Head wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Matt F wrote:Lol

Dang Bullz came outta nowhere to defend. What's up Bullz, besides sig, who you lookin' at

Linki - MM, gotcha. What are your feelings on Turnip Head?

He was a dead man, but he's no longer a dead man.

I feel neutral about him. He's a proactive Turnip, but I'm wary because he was killed by Dr Von Dreszenstein and rezzed pretty suddenly.

I was never really dead. Drezenstein ripped out my heart and experimented on me, then put me back together just the way I was.

DFaraday wrote:

sig wrote:

DFaraday wrote:I think better of Sig after that Luke lynch. Since Nutella turned out not to be part of a baddie team, I think the best place to look would be people potentially trying to save Luke in the previous lynch.

Okay that is good to know, what do you think about Floyd, Tranq did mention him a few times and voted for him, but I'm not sure if that plays into his death.

@Sorsha Any idea who might have killed Tranq?

I'll need to look over juliets, but I do think someone who mildly defended Luke or didn't vote for him and picked a solo vote is a teammate.

I think Floyd is a strong possibility for being Luke's teammate, given not only Tranq's comments, but Floyd's RIP to Luke and vote for Nutella when it was still very close between Luke and Nutella.

Matt F's defense of Luke and attempt to sway votes off of him catches my eye too.

I'm not really convinced by the Canuck case. She voted Luke early in the day, which seems like an odd strategy for a baddie teammate. Juliets is reading civ to me, but she always does.

For right now I'll vote Floyd.

fingersplints wrote:

Dom wrote:

fingersplints wrote:TH: Because I don't agree with your points on someone it does not mean I thought you were bad. I thought you were wrong, but that you had good intentions. I was looking forward to discussing Dom with you more before you were killed. I had reread him some from other games and I became less confident about him being a civvie. That suspicion seems to have dropped off anyways
Now I don't get the same feeling about you having good intetnions. I wouldn't say I suspect you yet. Hopefully the results of this lynch will help me decide about a few people.

This reads rather contrived to me.


What games didyou read?

What about it reads contrived to you?

I read all your posts in Gentleman's Guide to Love and Murder, and skimmed some other posts. (I think TSM and probably whatever other game you played recently since I didn't go far back) I spent most time rereading the first one though, since you were bad there.