The Syndicate

Mongoose wrote:

Kate wrote:I agree with Aces. Deals with the devil never work out. Why would someone want to stay in the game just to work for someone else who's win conditions are not the same? What is the benefit there to them to maintaining the alliance?

If INH is lynched tonight instead of Bea 2.0, I'll definitely consider this for Day 9 vote. I promise I am taking in what you are all saying even if it may seem like I'm not.

Maybe they are both bad. Whichever one escapes unharmed tonight will surely face more scrutiny leading up to the next lynch.

I completely agree with this! Whichever one I don't vote for today I will likely be voting for tomorrow. I just keep flipping back and forth between the 2!

AceofSpaces wrote:

Kate wrote:

Flyin' High wrote:The way I'm reading bea's posts currently is that she's not claiming to be a civvie now, just that she's a threat to Team Adam.

Reading team Adam roles, it would seem the only role that would be a threat to them is Fontaine. Is that a role we want alive?

Personally I'd rather not keep the roided out super indy last man standing killer alive any longer than physically possible. Fontaine can't win with anyone except Fountaine, right? So what is the point of keeping him alive? Seems silly and slightly game breaking to try to make an alliance with him. Nights are going to be a slaughterhouse already. We don't need Fontaine adding to the meat grinder. Personally, I find it suspicious that people would even consider this.

I'd vote for Bea, if I hadn't already voted for myself.

Agreed. The likelihood of Bea simply being a strong civ seems unlikely under the circumstances, and if she is indeed an SK there's no sense keeping her around. If she gets lynched I'm still looking at INH for the next day though. *Votes Bea*

In light of the recent discussion I'm gonna not vote INH and instead *Vote Bea*. INH will be next on my list though.

I am preparing to be out for the evening, so voting now. Beajira seems be the known threat whereas I am less sure about inh. Will be interested in his sane discussion the next day.

*Votes Bea*

Unless INh can convince me otherwise, he will definitely be getting my vote tomorrow! But right now bea is the clearer choice.

*votes bea*

EBWOP: INH

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insertnamehere wrote:SRDJHNkoisrltjbgdkjgnv bisoduth;lfhkgg;hjsrngv

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I know random shit from a keyboard when I see it. It looks like this:

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Which I think, in your current language, means, "you're not fooling anybody."

Epignosis wrote:

insertnamehere wrote:SRDJHNkoisrltjbgdkjgnv bisoduth;lfhkgg;hjsrngv

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I know random shit from a keyboard when I see it. It looks like this:

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Which I think, in your current language, means, "you're not fooling anybody."

Yeah you should have at least written it backwards.

I have voted Bea.

After reading through, I will say that I can't pick up 'baddie speaking' from all of Beas posts. Some of them sound very sincere. But with all that has come out today, and looking at Ajiras style as a baddie, I think Bea should go.

I also agree that INH should be looked at, maybe after he can speak again.

Lots of stuff happening lately. I really don't have time to read much. I'm voting INH.

Good luck any remaining civs and newly rouge players. While I can't say I have the magic list of who is who, I would have actively worked to use my powers on those I most thought was mafia. I'm sure I would have made mistakes, but ya know, gal wants to get in on the kililn' and eventually you have to pick a side for a while to live.

If I were not a member of ADAM and unsure of who to take out during the next night's bloody massacre about to happen, I would take a peek at two distinctive sets of people. Those that seemed to want me lynched very quickly right out of the gate and those who never struggled with the idea that might not be the best target and who seemed to just hop on the "Indi reads bea so well, bea must be bad" voting. I might take a look at people who contributed quite a bit at the beginning of the game, then just kinda dropped off participation wise. Not so much that people would forget mind you, but who suddenly became very good at just echoing what the more vocal players were saying. Any remaining civs and newly rouge players will have to work together to wipe out ADAM at night if they have any hope of winning though. I'm honestly saying, near as I can tell, they've suffered no casualties that I can see and with the addition of Jack and possibly Cohen and his vote manipulating splicers, that's a pretty solid voting block come lynch time.

In the end, I find it ironic in a weird "Wow, I always thought I was pretty good at expressing myself in writing" kind of way that when I was posting the most genuine of my feelings, I was thought to have sounded "insincere" but when I reached the critical breaking point of "Oh, I can't be assed to care this much about a game anymore" and just kinda let saracstagal come out in type my posts "rang true" in the interpretation. This is why I'm amazed at language and how it moves and how intention and interpreted meaning can change so quickly.

Thanks MP for a great game! I know nothing about Bioshock and I really was confused as all get out as bea 1.0. It had been a long time since I was a blind vanllia civ without even back ground knowledge to help me try to juggle some of the mess so that was a fun and eye opening experience. I loved replacing back in and had tons of fun in both my incarnations! Well done Socky!

Ok - I'm voting Bea again as all the cool kids are doing it. Besides, one last self vote from the game of record self votes is fun!

bea wrote: In the end, I find it ironic in a weird "Wow, I always thought I was pretty good at expressing myself in writing" kind of way that when I was posting the most genuine of my feelings, I was thought to have sounded "insincere" but when I reached the critical breaking point of "Oh, I can't be assed to care this much about a game anymore" and just kinda let saracstagal come out in type my posts "rang true" in the interpretation. This is why I'm amazed at language and how it moves and how intention and interpreted meaning can change so quickly.

Very clever swan song.

Epignosis wrote:

insertnamehere wrote:SRDJHNkoisrltjbgdkjgnv bisoduth;lfhkgg;hjsrngv

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I know random shit from a keyboard when I see it. It looks like this:

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Which I think, in your current language, means, "you're not fooling anybody."

Very, very good catch. There can be few good reasons to fake not being able to defend yourself. Also, well done lynch.

Bullzeye wrote:

Bullzeye wrote:Wow. Hell of a night.

Boomslang wrote:Oh boy, things are about to get a lot deadlier up in here... RIP, DH.

People have mentioned INH as a possible target, but I'm not getting much of a bad read off of him. He was wrong about Dex, but so was I. His defense against Bullz feels legitimately frustrated as opposed to baddie posturing.

Interesting that his defense against me of all people would seem frustrated, don't you think? Maybe looking for sympathy after how annoyed I was at Dom/Nutella? The case on INH has nothing to do with Dex. In the first few days, he was demonstrably blendy and appeared to be trying to keep under the radar. Then he jumps onto the potential bandwagon against me claiming Bea made a solid case when she didn't even definitely think I was bad. He claimed I looked like I was being coached, which is an odd thing to say of someone who's been playing for as long as I have (or even a couple of months really, nobody needs coaching after their first few games). He never explained that comment despite me asking him to/implying he should do four times. Despite what he said on the matter, I also still think it's weird that he claimed to be following what Bea said and then used Dom's thoughts as the reason to vote for me.

Dom wrote:I think INH, Bullz, Snow Dog, and DFaraday are all good people to discuss today..

You've changed your tune. Again. I think there's more evidence on INH than any of the others you mentioned and will probably be voting for him.

Interesting that instead of questioning why I consider you a suspect again, you try to paint me a little black... NOT what you were doing before...

Like I said, I think that he could be in the new group of baddies/rogues.

First off you're still wrong about me, I'm not bad or independent. I threw out my little observation about your second opinion change to see how you'd react, I did pretty much know why you'd laid off and why you started again but I wanted confirmation of that as well. I kinda have tried to 'paint you black' before as well. Your name was in the list of people I find suspicious that I gave to Bea, I'm sure you can remember the one I mean. I've never actually claimed to trust you and do think there's a possibility of you not being pro-civvie (especially now we've got a bunch of new indies) but I think others need to be dealt with first. I'm going to look back into this movement that's building against Bea but if I don't vote her I'll vote INH.[/quote]

Uth, I lots my post.

Basically, what I wrote boiled down to you seem to think I'm suspicious of me whenever I think you could be bad or think you're a priority. But the second I don't, you seem to change your priorities as well. If I weren't confined to my personal hotspot, I'd do a nice reread of you.


Also, Kate, were you implying that some of those who were *sure* that Bea was bad were her teammates?

Dom wrote:

Bullzeye wrote:

Bullzeye wrote:Wow. Hell of a night.

Boomslang wrote:Oh boy, things are about to get a lot deadlier up in here... RIP, DH.

People have mentioned INH as a possible target, but I'm not getting much of a bad read off of him. He was wrong about Dex, but so was I. His defense against Bullz feels legitimately frustrated as opposed to baddie posturing.

Interesting that his defense against me of all people would seem frustrated, don't you think? Maybe looking for sympathy after how annoyed I was at Dom/Nutella? The case on INH has nothing to do with Dex. In the first few days, he was demonstrably blendy and appeared to be trying to keep under the radar. Then he jumps onto the potential bandwagon against me claiming Bea made a solid case when she didn't even definitely think I was bad. He claimed I looked like I was being coached, which is an odd thing to say of someone who's been playing for as long as I have (or even a couple of months really, nobody needs coaching after their first few games). He never explained that comment despite me asking him to/implying he should do four times. Despite what he said on the matter, I also still think it's weird that he claimed to be following what Bea said and then used Dom's thoughts as the reason to vote for me.

Dom wrote:I think INH, Bullz, Snow Dog, and DFaraday are all good people to discuss today..

You've changed your tune. Again. I think there's more evidence on INH than any of the others you mentioned and will probably be voting for him.

Interesting that instead of questioning why I consider you a suspect again, you try to paint me a little black... NOT what you were doing before...

Like I said, I think that he could be in the new group of baddies/rogues.

First off you're still wrong about me, I'm not bad or independent. I threw out my little observation about your second opinion change to see how you'd react, I did pretty much know why you'd laid off and why you started again but I wanted confirmation of that as well. I kinda have tried to 'paint you black' before as well. Your name was in the list of people I find suspicious that I gave to Bea, I'm sure you can remember the one I mean. I've never actually claimed to trust you and do think there's a possibility of you not being pro-civvie (especially now we've got a bunch of new indies) but I think others need to be dealt with first. I'm going to look back into this movement that's building against Bea but if I don't vote her I'll vote INH.

Uth, I lots my post.

Basically, what I wrote boiled down to you seem to think I'm suspicious of me whenever I think you could be bad or think you're a priority. But the second I don't, you seem to change your priorities as well. If I weren't confined to my personal hotspot, I'd do a nice reread of you.


Also, Kate, were you implying that some of those who were *sure* that Bea was bad were her teammates?[/quote]

No I was implying that some people had info.

OK. Just wanted to clear that up.

Can't say I'm disappointed with that result! I'll miss you Bea but I am glad to be rid of a very powerful killer in this game.

Sweet result.

Woot! Good result!

Finally! The B for baddies theory turned out to work in a weird totally unrelated way.

It was fun playing with you Bea. Thanks for subbing in and giving it your all.

Cooly coolz! Bye beajirataine.

Epignosis wrote:

bea wrote: In the end, I find it ironic in a weird "Wow, I always thought I was pretty good at expressing myself in writing" kind of way that when I was posting the most genuine of my feelings, I was thought to have sounded "insincere" but when I reached the critical breaking point of "Oh, I can't be assed to care this much about a game anymore" and just kinda let saracstagal come out in type my posts "rang true" in the interpretation. This is why I'm amazed at language and how it moves and how intention and interpreted meaning can change so quickly.

Very clever swan song.

I particularly look forward to discussing this with you post game. I adore being clever and I need to know exactly where and how I was clever. It happens accidentally more times than you would ever believe.

Dom wrote: Uth, I lots my post.

Basically, what I wrote boiled down to you seem to think I'm suspicious of me whenever I think you could be bad or think you're a priority. But the second I don't, you seem to change your priorities as well. If I weren't confined to my personal hotspot, I'd do a nice reread of you.
Also, Kate, were you implying that some of those who were *sure* that Bea was bad were her teammates?

I didn't actually say I was suspicious of you this time though. When you thought I was a priority to lynch, I thought you were a priority to defend against. Then you stopped attacking so I stopped defending and didn't mention you really because I had no reason to. Then you mentioned me again so I pointed out that your opinion had changed again just to see your response and you confirmed why you'd laid off in the first place. There is a reason for my vote by the way, but it's not what you seem to think. I think it should be easy to work out though.

Bullzeye wrote:

Dom wrote: Uth, I lots my post.

Basically, what I wrote boiled down to you seem to think I'm suspicious of me whenever I think you could be bad or think you're a priority. But the second I don't, you seem to change your priorities as well. If I weren't confined to my personal hotspot, I'd do a nice reread of you.
Also, Kate, were you implying that some of those who were *sure* that Bea was bad were her teammates?

I didn't actually say I was suspicious of you this time though. When you thought I was a priority to lynch, I thought you were a priority to defend against. Then you stopped attacking so I stopped defending and didn't mention you really because I had no reason to. Then you mentioned me again so I pointed out that your opinion had changed again just to see your response and you confirmed why you'd laid off in the first place. There is a reason for my vote by the way, but it's not what you seem to think. I think it should be easy to work out though.

Did you not tell Bea I was someone to look at? Did you not just admit to doing that just a few posts ago? Did you not then drop me when I dropped you? Did you not then try and paint me in a negative light when I picked you back up?

Dom wrote:

Bullzeye wrote:

Dom wrote: Uth, I lots my post.

Basically, what I wrote boiled down to you seem to think I'm suspicious of me whenever I think you could be bad or think you're a priority. But the second I don't, you seem to change your priorities as well. If I weren't confined to my personal hotspot, I'd do a nice reread of you.
Also, Kate, were you implying that some of those who were *sure* that Bea was bad were her teammates?

I didn't actually say I was suspicious of you this time though. When you thought I was a priority to lynch, I thought you were a priority to defend against. Then you stopped attacking so I stopped defending and didn't mention you really because I had no reason to. Then you mentioned me again so I pointed out that your opinion had changed again just to see your response and you confirmed why you'd laid off in the first place. There is a reason for my vote by the way, but it's not what you seem to think. I think it should be easy to work out though.

Did you not tell Bea I was someone to look at? Did you not just admit to doing that just a few posts ago? Did you not then drop me when I dropped you? Did you not then try and paint me in a negative light when I picked you back up?

Yes. Yes. No not really, you were never at the top of my suspicions and INH and Bea were more important and I didn't have much on you other than vibes and feelings. As I've said a few times, my 'changed your tune' comment was just to see what you'd say.

Wow, great job team! Really glad we finally got our second baddie. With any luck a few more will go down tonight too!

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bea wrote:....starts prepping the bar.....

I'll have a vodka and tonic...a very very large one...make it a bottle

Snow Dog wrote:

bea wrote:....starts prepping the bar.....

I'll have a vodka and tonic...a very very large one...make it a bottle

I'll have the bar. All of it.

bea wrote:One very large vodka with a splash of tonic......here you go sir. Welcome to the Zombie Bar.

One very large long island ice tea (closest thing I could think of to "everything" enjoy gentlemen.

Thank you, sweet bea!

indiglo wrote:All deadies (of which I see there are many) should seriously check out Mafia of the Absurd on HV. It's goofy, it's nerdy, it's smart, it's light-hearted, but you're still gonna need your best thinking cap. Go on, you know you want to! Only 3 spots left, too.

I fully agree with all of the contents of this post. Indi's game comes with the Bullzeye stamp of approval. Or it would do if such a thing existed.

Holy crap.

Kate wrote:Holy crap.

Is every night going to be like this?
It almost feels like rolling the dice for survival now :-\

I literally have no better response than

Night time is scary.

Bullzeye wrote:

indiglo wrote:All deadies (of which I see there are many) should seriously check out Mafia of the Absurd on HV. It's goofy, it's nerdy, it's smart, it's light-hearted, but you're still gonna need your best thinking cap. Go on, you know you want to! Only 3 spots left, too.

I fully agree with all of the contents of this post. Indi's game comes with the Bullzeye stamp of approval. Or it would do if such a thing existed.

I will second that stamp of approval. There is no other mafia like HV mafia and Dex and Indi always make great games!