The Syndicate

Enrique wrote:[img]mikesteffler.com/graphics/suspicious.gif[/img] @ rey. Considering changing my vote to MR if only to stop a potential last second "I'm not caught up" Made lynch. I'll keep my eyes on the poll. Still feel way more strongly about MM than MR.

BWT wrote:and I may not touch Made with a 20-foot pole the rest of this game because of how big that can of worms has become.

You're encouraged to voice your opinion. As long as it's genuine, you should have nothing to fear.

Are you serious? Are you accusing me of lying about not being caught up? lol I've got enough experience in mafia to be able to stick a vote on Made without needing any last second excuse.

Changed from MM to MR because yeah, fuck that. Last second show ups switching away from him are making me uneasy.

linki: I'm not accusing you of lying, I'm saying that it makes me uneasy how quickly the lynch could be turned around.

Voting MR since he's MIA and I have no time.

Enrique wrote:Oh, bwt, changed your vote from MR, didn't notice that. Paving the way for the last second Made lynch, I see.

Nah, he was just a placeholder vote while I made my mind up. I put it right on back after I posted and pushed through linki hell.

Mongoose wrote:

Enrique wrote:Oh, bwt, changed your vote from MR, didn't notice that. Paving the way for the last second Made lynch, I see.

Nah, he was just a placeholder vote while I made my mind up. I put it right on back after I posted and pushed through linki hell.

... are you BWT?

also, lol, nvm. the opposite of what I was afraid of ended up happening...

Made wrote:Metalmarsh - People have brought up a few good points about MM. The most suspicious things I’ve seen so far are the French thing and the Epi thing (was that MM? I think I might be getting confused. Also side note do we know for sure that Epi’s role was a bad one? I didn’t see it in the first post.) I am considering voting for MM, but it would be a half-hearted vote, so I’ll probably hold off until I look through everyone else.

I think both of your pings are a bit pedantic, being as they are both about characters from the movie that I was hinting at. The French joke I made and expounded on was in reference to SVS's comment about people having civvie BTSC. I followed it up with, "Hey maybe they're French" with the suggestion that hey, maybe it's not the civvies. Essentially I was saying, "Hey, maybe they're bad." Also, with llama's comment and many other's support that this might be the ballsiest mafia ever, I think it's hypocritical to take my comment and say it's that of a baddie, when his more extreme suggestion is so accepted.

As for Epi, here you will find his death. He was the rabbit who killed several of Arthur's knights in the film. While we don't yet know how bad he is, we at least know he's an indy, and I'd be willing to bet that we need him dead to win. We'll find out soon I think, either way.

Omg linki: I still have 3 other pages to read first, but this read from Dana needed addressing from me.

(My apparent) Objective: To look as suspicious as possible at the end of the lynch vote.

MISSION ACCOMPLISHED

Scotch time, kids.



linki Enrique 0- Oh I thought you meant my 2 min fake vote for BWT before switching back like a square dancer on blow.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Made wrote:Metalmarsh - People have brought up a few good points about MM. The most suspicious things I’ve seen so far are the French thing and the Epi thing (was that MM? I think I might be getting confused. Also side note do we know for sure that Epi’s role was a bad one? I didn’t see it in the first post.) I am considering voting for MM, but it would be a half-hearted vote, so I’ll probably hold off until I look through everyone else.

I think both of your pings are a bit pedantic, being as they are both about characters from the movie that I was hinting at. The French joke I made and expounded on was in reference to SVS's comment about people having civvie BTSC. I followed it up with, "Hey maybe they're French" with the suggestion that hey, maybe it's not the civvies. Essentially I was saying, "Hey, maybe they're bad." Also, with llama's comment and many other's support that this might be the ballsiest mafia ever, I think it's hypocritical to take my comment and say it's that of a baddie, when his more extreme suggestion is so accepted.

As for Epi, here you will find his death. He was the rabbit who killed several of Arthur's knights in the film. While we don't yet know how bad he is, we at least know he's an indy, and I'd be willing to bet that we need him dead to win. We'll find out soon I think, either way.

Omg linki: I still have 3 other pages to read first, but this read from Dana needed addressing from me.

Misquoted, the quote should be attributed to dana.

Mongoose wrote:Oh, and yes I am female, btw.

Linki: I did know I was addressing Dana, I just quoted your misquote.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Mongoose wrote:Oh, and yes I am female, btw.

Linki: I did know I was addressing Dana, I just quoted your misquote.

I blame dana for that misquote because i quoted her fail quoting of bullz(???)

Mister Rearranger is no more! He was Sir Galahad, a civ.

Night 3 has begun.

Well this is an unmitigated disaster.

Made wrote:

Dana wrote:

Made wrote:Thank you for the reeds dana, they'll look great on my desk!

Dana, did i ever tell you why i thought you were mafia last game? it's a stupid but funny story.

No, why?

Are you sure i didn't? about you and DH??

Yes, I'm sure. I didn't think you thought I was bad at all.

Well damn.

Day 3


Get on with it!
Poll ended at Thu Sep 04, 2014 6:49:18 pm


Bea
0
No votes
birdwithteeth11
0
No votes
Boogs
0
No votes
Bullz
0
No votes
Canucklehead
0
No votes
Dana
0
No votes
Hedgeowl
0
No votes
Juliets
2
birdwithteeth11 (19), reywaS (23) 9%
Long Con
0
No votes
LoRab
0
No votes
Made
5
thellama73 (7), Hedgeowl (8), Metalmarsh89 (9), nijuukyugou (13), Boogs (14) 22%
Metalmarsh
1
Mister Rearranger (5) 4%
Mister Rearranger
9
Made (2), Keterman (11), S~V~S (12), bea (16), juliets (17), Bullzeye (18), Enrique (20), Mongoose (21), Dana (22) 39%
Mongoose
1
Canucklehead (15) 4%
nijuukyugou
0
No votes
reywaS
0
No votes
Spacedaisy
0
No votes
S~V~S
1
Long Con (10) 4%
Thellama73
0
No votes
Oh, anyway, on to scene 24/ Hosts/Mod/GOD/Dead Folk/Nons
4
Roxy (1), MovingPictures07 (3), DisgruntledPorcupine (4), Dom (6) 17%
Total votes : 23

I guess I'll find out soon emough when I go read those posts as to why everyone voted for MR.

<- This is my shocked face.

Wow. That was not expected. And Keterman sounded so confident, he reminded me of him in Misfits, where he was fairly spot on, I thought.

Welp I ain't got nothing to say beside i fucked up

That's not good...

S~V~S wrote:Wow. That was not expected. And Keterman sounded so confident, he reminded me of him in Misfits, where he was fairly spot on, I thought.

What was he spot on about in Misfits? I don't really remember much from him in that game. He was a fairly quiet baddie as I recall.

RIP MR.

I still think Made is good, so I guess it was one civvie or the other. Still sucks it had to be that way.

Want to say something about the last second voters but might seem hypocritical being one myself.



edit: SVS, I believe what the lynch post says, but is a Seemer role only possible if it's made? Hmm..

I wonder if the good Lord will show up tonight. I'm super tired so I hope I don't miss him. Or her. Whichever.

Bullzeye wrote:That's not good...

S~V~S wrote:Wow. That was not expected. And Keterman sounded so confident, he reminded me of him in Misfits, where he was fairly spot on, I thought.

What was he spot on about in Misfits? I don't really remember much from him in that game. He was a fairly quiet baddie as I recall.

He was quiet after I died, that was how I knew HE was bad (from beyond the grave). He was spot on about me, and for the right reasons.

And Enrique, not sure what you are talking about? I mainly thought there might be a Seemer becasue Made has so many open, overt defenders. Too many for civ BTS, and too overt for standard baddie defenses. I have only seen similar behavior (or engaged in it) when there was a Seemer. Thats the only reason I thought there was one, and I relate it to Made specifically. I think that is your point, but not sure.

Bullzeye wrote:As for MetalMarsh, I find his comment about the French to be quite pingy, for lack of a better term. It struck a chord when I first saw it and just gave me a bad vibe. I hadn't really thought of MM before that but the one assumption was enough to set my mind on him for whatever reason. He does seem to have done a fair bit of baddie hunting, and after day one has put himself out there. The only other thing that makes me wonder about him is a fairly minor thing but it's this:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:I do not feel bad anymore for my speculation of Epi on Day 1. Goodbye Epi.

Initially I had misremembered this quote as suspicion instead of speculation but I think my opinion of it stays fairly the same. All he said about Epi was that it was strange he was so quiet, and then seemed to accept Epi's explanation for why that was. Throwing out a comment like this after Epi is revealed to have been an indy seems a bit shady to me, like he wanted credit for baddie-hunting or something? I don't know. I am suspicious of MM but the only case I can really come up with is shaky at best - based on vibes and a couple of comments I found relatively strange. It's more gut than anything at this point.

The way it went through my head was much different than you explained it here. Before I voiced a suspicion of Epi, I made a joke to him and he gave me a virtual finger. That bothered me, but then I thought that I may have taken the joke too far? I don't know. Then I made my statement later about his lack of activity, and again, a blunt response, and so I took it kind of emotionally and just left it alone. Then after seeing Epi's role after his death, I decided that maybe I was actually right, and had no reason to feel bad.

I realize after the last post that it that it might seem odd, but didn't feel like explaining it unless someone asked. Please don't look to deeply into it, as it was definitely a situation I didn't handle correctly, nor is it important to the game.

That makes sense, SVS. I was just wondering.

Metalmarsh89 wrote: The way it went through my head was much different than you explained it here. Before I voiced a suspicion of Epi, I made a joke to him and he gave me a virtual finger. That bothered me, but then I thought that I may have taken the joke too far? I don't know. Then I made my statement later about his lack of activity, and again, a blunt response, and so I took it kind of emotionally and just left it alone. Then after seeing Epi's role after his death, I decided that maybe I was actually right, and had no reason to feel bad.

I realize after the last post that it that it might seem odd, but didn't feel like explaining it unless someone asked. Please don't look to deeply into it, as it was definitely a situation I didn't handle correctly, nor is it important to the game.

Fair enough. I will drop that point from my suspicion of you.

S~V~S wrote:

Bullzeye wrote:That's not good...

S~V~S wrote:Wow. That was not expected. And Keterman sounded so confident, he reminded me of him in Misfits, where he was fairly spot on, I thought.

What was he spot on about in Misfits? I don't really remember much from him in that game. He was a fairly quiet baddie as I recall.

He was quiet after I died, that was how I knew HE was bad (from beyond the grave). He was spot on about me, and for the right reasons.

And Enrique, not sure what you are talking about? I mainly thought there might be a Seemer becasue Made has so many open, overt defenders. Too many for civ BTS, and too overt for standard baddie defenses. I have only seen similar behavior (or engaged in it) when there was a Seemer. Thats the only reason I thought there was one, and I relate it to Made specifically. I think that is your point, but not sure.

It could be a scenario similar to Misfits where someone has the ability to gain bts with people for just a night/ info or someone knows whe main group of good guys are?

Wow. Talk about this thread exploding again. RIP MR! Still don't know what so many people saw in you.

Will catch up in a second.

in case it is one of the two, This really screwed over civ in misfits (well kinda anyways). Basically Dh at one point was civ but switched to mafia who ended up winning the game, and Dana trusted Dh because he was able to verify his civvieness using his previous information. since he switched roles, my information no longer was accurate.

Just throwing that out there

It's not a Misfits scenario. It's as simple as thinking BeaNuk makes too much sense to not be true.

Also this was just added

Epignosis had the worst possible role,
“*squeaks angrily*”

Rabbit of Caerbannog - That rabbit is dynamite! - In addition to killing on odd nights on even nights you will search for Brother Maynard. If you find Brother Maynard you won't/can't kill him but will earn (1) instant kill to be used whenever you wish (day or night). LMS

Bullzeye wrote:I wonder if the good Lord will show up tonight. I'm super tired so I hope I don't miss him. Or her. Whichever.

Ask and you shall receive

The LORB is returned. Having perused your offerings from the other night, I have decided to shine my light upon YOU, Bullzeye. I have granted you a boon. You will not know what it is until games end, but with luck you will benefit from it.

Since the only LORBS more Magnificent than I, DP & Roxy, have graciously allowed me to be here, I would like to see some words of praise for them. It may be in any form you like, but the more praiseful, the better. The next night I have a boon, I will extend it to the best praise of our Hosts.

THE LORB HAS SPOKEN

You may now grovel.

juliets wrote:

birdwithteeth11 wrote:Alright. I think I've decided.

I am not voting for Made or MR. I don't really see a strong enough case on MR, and I may not touch Made with a 20-foot pole the rest of this game because of how big that can of worms has become. I am going to stick with juliets this time around. While I appreciate her trying to be helpful and showing me her list and whatnot, I still feel like she refused to give me a direct opinion on something....when I asked her 3 times to do so. So it felt like she was deliberately avoiding answering my question about LC and SVS.

Votes Juliets

Linki: Rey, you should vote for someone other than MR and Made. Because I smell something funny coming from this lynch.

What did i refuse to give you an opinion on?

SVS vs. LC. I am asking as to why you feel about both the way you do. And I still don't feel like you've answered that.

Enrique wrote:

BWT wrote:and I may not touch Made with a 20-foot pole the rest of this game because of how big that can of worms has become.

You're encouraged to voice your opinion. As long as it's genuine, you should have nothing to fear.

It's not so much my opinion on Made. It's that I am so baffled by him that it might take me awhile to develop one of him again.

It was a hard choice, but i went with Merry Making, which is what i would wind up doing in Mountains & Meadows anyhow. But marshmallows, yuck

thellama73 wrote:SVS, can you elaborate on your vote for LC? Do you agree with me about his "who do you think will get lynched?" question?

As you may have gathered, I do agree.

Canucklehead wrote:My only hesitation re: MM is that he hasn't seemed to have had any sort of reaction to all the "I think I'm suspicious of MM but I have no reason or evidence for why" talk (including my own) that has been tossed about in the last few days. When I'm a civ and my name keeps coming up for absolutely no reason at all, I get CRAY CRAY bothered by it and make a big fuss. Maybe that's just not the way MM rolls, but I do find it a little odd that he isn't at all bugged by the really flimsy accusations about him and the repeated resurfacing of his name.
(If such a response exists, please someone point me to it....)

I did say that I might not be on before the deadline, and I did ask MR why he voted for me.

Votes sometimes bother me and sometimes don't. I do worry a little bit, especially after what happened to AP yesterday, but votes are going to come and go. I'm not going to explain my meta here though, because that will probably be used against me.

Made wrote:What was your opinion of voting to save me? I'd be willing to change my vote to MM, another vote from JC (I think she also spoke suspicions of MM) would be enough to at least tie it.

But I will address this comment. You've made cases against other players, but not against me. At one point, you even said you suspected me only because I suspect you. This doesn't gel. But I guess being a potential lynchee, you'll put your vote anywhere to save yourself. I will not fault you for that.



Well that's all the posts I feel like responding to at the moment, but another couple questions.

@ Keterman, give me a good reason I shouldn't vote for you tomorrow?

GOD wrote:

Bullzeye wrote:I wonder if the good Lord will show up tonight. I'm super tired so I hope I don't miss him. Or her. Whichever.

Ask and you shall receive

The LORB is returned. Having perused your offerings from the other night, I have decided to shine my light upon YOU, Bullzeye. I have granted you a boon. You will not know what it is until games end, but with luck you will benefit from it.

Since the only LORBS more Magnificent than I, DP & Roxy, have graciously allowed me to be here, I would like to see some words of praise for them. It may be in any form you like, but the more praiseful, the better. The next night I have a boon, I will extend it to the best praise of our Hosts.

THE LORB HAS SPOKEN

You may now grovel.

Sup God? I thought you didn't like grovelling? Thanks for the boon I find there are no words adequate enough to praise the glorious, wonderful, magnificent overlords that are our lovely hosts in this game.

DisgruntledPorcupine wrote:MERRILY MARVELOUS MYSTERY MOMENT

What is the sum of all people who got Zoot, Galahad, or Robin in the survey?

PM both hosts your guess.

I'm trying to respond to posts, and you and the LORB are distracting. grrr

I am going to vote for Magnificent Mountains because I enjoy going on walks and a mountain would be more fun for me to walk on than a meadow.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

DisgruntledPorcupine wrote:MERRILY MARVELOUS MYSTERY MOMENT

What is the sum of all people who got Zoot, Galahad, or Robin in the survey?

PM both hosts your guess.

I'm trying to respond to posts, and you and the LORB are distracting. grrr

Bullzeye wrote:
Sup God? I thought you didn't like grovelling? Thanks for the boon I find there are no words adequate enough to praise the glorious, wonderful, magnificent overlords that are our lovely hosts in this game.

The LORB may have a change of heart. Today I want groveling. And toast.

GOD wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

DisgruntledPorcupine wrote:MERRILY MARVELOUS MYSTERY MOMENT

What is the sum of all people who got Zoot, Galahad, or Robin in the survey?

PM both hosts your guess.

I'm trying to respond to posts, and you and the LORB are distracting. grrr

Bullzeye wrote:
Sup God? I thought you didn't like grovelling? Thanks for the boon I find there are no words adequate enough to praise the glorious, wonderful, magnificent overlords that are our lovely hosts in this game.

The LORB may have a change of heart. Today I want groveling. And toast.

Well I'm out of bread and no shops are open at quarter to one in the morning so you'll have to ask someone else for toast.

Oy. I was set to catch up and vote this afternoon, and started to do the first of those, and then someone came into my office, and then by the time I was looking at a computer again it was too late. RIP MR. As I said earlier, I didn't see reason for suspicion of him. Having now read through the last day of the thread--nice bandwagon. I need to look back and see some of its starts and where the seeds were planted. I would have voted Made, or maybe MM. My feelings of neither of them has changed.

Made wrote:

Long Con wrote:Even if it were as you described, I don't see me basing my team's voting plan on Llama's Opinion. I hear you're a smart guy, Llama, but I don't know that I would place that much faith in your opinion.

Don't play this game unless you REALLY know what your doing or REALLY don't.

It's gotta be either genuine stupidity or calculated stupidity to work. Trust me I'm stupid.

Neither, I don't think. I don't think he's appearing stupid, first of all. And he certainly isn't stupid. I think he's just being him. He knows what he's doing--he's smart as fuck and is one of the very few players who have been at this longer than I have who are still playing. I don't see why you think he's trying to appear stupid, though. I guess I don't get what you're saying.

Made wrote:

S~V~S wrote:LC is far from stupid, Made.

Dana, any opinion on Bullz? Bea? Anyone?

Didn't mean to imply they were.
I'm just saying it's hard to argue for those accusing you with out either being blissfully ignorant or have the situation awareness to you how far you can go to avoid suspicion, then the lack of common sense to go above and beyond that.

Made wrote:Yo, SVS, is there a term for voting in hopes of getting others to vote someone? Because I've noticed that happens a lot.

Woah-linki kinda related? Basically mafia vote getting tactics.

Double related linki

It's called starting a bandwagon.

Keterman wrote:Remember fellow townies, it's not too late to change your vote, nor is it too late to place your vote on a scum-aligned player.

And, why should we believe you? And oh, wait, you were wrong. Also, if you could explain your reasons for your opinions, it would be helpful for me.

Metalmarsh89 wrote: As for Epi, here you will find his death. He was the rabbit who killed several of Arthur's knights in the film. While we don't yet know how bad he is, we at least know he's an indy, and I'd be willing to bet that we need him dead to win. We'll find out soon I think, either way.

What do you mean by this?

What will we find out soon enough and how? And how do you know this?

Enrique wrote:The French thing? Yeah, that's worth keeping in mind, I think. I haven't watched the movie so I don't know if it's really that obvious, but do the French have to be a baddie team? Because the roles we know make no mention of them at all. DF's role implies thre was only one Knight who said Ni, right? So why do the French have to be different? Are they the only "bad" faction in the movie worth having as a team? I jus tdon't get it. It's one thing to speculate, but to work on that assumption and just casually mention "the French team" like it's nothing. I really think MM is bad and will be voting for him.

Sorry, but you all are blowing this out of proportion. It was not an assumption, as I stated specifically here. Rather then discuss it, people jumped all over it. Anyway, the point is, it doesn't have to be the French. I was specifically responding to a post from SVS that some civvies might have BTSC, in that hey maybe the unknown baddies do. And as I later explained, it was an idea, not a base for cases I was making or any such thing.

LoRab wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote: As for Epi, here you will find his death. He was the rabbit who killed several of Arthur's knights in the film. While we don't yet know how bad he is, we at least know he's an indy, and I'd be willing to bet that we need him dead to win. We'll find out soon I think, either way.

What do you mean by this?

What will we find out soon enough and how? And how do you know this?

His role just appeared in the OP, as I suspected from previous trends. However it's hard to say which way he was aligned, but since Brother Maynard is a member of King Arthur's court in the film, I'd be willing to bet that at least he is good.

Epignosis had the worst possible role,



“*squeaks angrily*”

Rabbit of Caerbannog - That rabbit is dynamite! - In addition to killing on odd nights on even nights you will search for Brother Maynard. If you find Brother Maynard you won't/can't kill him but will earn (1) instant kill to be used whenever you wish (day or night). LMS

GOD wrote:The LORB may have a change of heart. Today I want groveling. And toast.

How does ham and jam in Spamalot toast sound? It even include a reference to the film you starred in.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

GOD wrote:The LORB may have a change of heart. Today I want groveling. And toast.

How does ham and jam in Spamalot toast sound? It even include a reference to the film you starred in.

I will forgive you for saying I was an annoying distraction, nom nom nom.

Look, a squirrel!