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Re: Welcome to Night Vale Mafia [DAY 5]

Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2017 8:41 am
by Ricochet
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Re: Welcome to Night Vale Mafia [DAY 5]

Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2017 8:41 am
by Dom
If there's no silence, Elo was Kevin, no?

Re: Welcome to Night Vale Mafia [DAY 5]

Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2017 8:43 am
by sprityo
Cecil had put out that hiram was elo

But we have no way of confirming that

And Epi was suppository silenced yesterday, so we can't confirmed no or is silenced until everyone posts/votes in the poll

Re: Welcome to Night Vale Mafia [DAY 5]

Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2017 8:43 am
by Dom
Boomslang - :meany:
DFarday - :faint:
Dom - :fist:
DrWilgy - :flamed:
Elohcin - :grin:
Epignosis - :pout:
Golden - :puppy:
insertnamehere - :scared:
JackofHearts - :shifty:
Long Con - :haha:
LoRab - :dark:
Made - :shrug2:
Nutella - :bighug:
Quin - :cloud9:
Ricochet - :workit:
speedchuck - :clap:
sprityo - :confused2:
timmer - :doh:
TonyStarkPrime - :blush:

Re: Welcome to Night Vale Mafia [DAY 5]

Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2017 8:44 am
by sprityo
Supposedly

Wow I love auto correct

Re: Welcome to Night Vale Mafia [DAY 5]

Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2017 8:44 am
by Ricochet
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Re: Welcome to Night Vale Mafia [DAY 5]

Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2017 8:45 am
by Dom
sprityo wrote: Wed Jul 26, 2017 8:43 am Cecil had put out that hiram was elo

But we have no way of confirming that

And Epi was suppository silenced yesterday, so we can't confirmed no or is silenced until everyone posts/votes in the poll
I feel the same way.

People I see lots of baddie roles for:
-Epi
-Boomslang
-Ricochet

Re: Welcome to Night Vale Mafia [DAY 5]

Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2017 8:46 am
by Dom
Also, how many baddies I think are left: 3

Speedchuck could be a politician though.

Re: Welcome to Night Vale Mafia [DAY 5]

Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2017 8:46 am
by Ricochet
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Re: Welcome to Night Vale Mafia [DAY 5]

Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2017 8:48 am
by Dom
Sorry bro I just haven't ruled you out like I have others.

Re: Welcome to Night Vale Mafia [DAY 5]

Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2017 9:09 am
by sprityo
Dom, reading up on the lore of welcome to nightvale, it would seem actually that Kevin would be more likely to reveal as Cecil than hiram.

Kevin has a much more extensive past with Cecil it would seem AND they're both radio hosts.

Hiram is more so a fugitive, although his role is odd in that the secret.

I'm not sure how well the game follows the lore, I would think decently close, but i think Hiram's actual power is to survive the first attempt in his life. Or something to do with the personalities of his five heads

Re: Welcome to Night Vale Mafia [DAY 5]

Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2017 9:10 am
by sprityo
And if that's the case, that eloh was Kevin, then it would only make sense that Epi is Marcus

Re: Welcome to Night Vale Mafia [DAY 5]

Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2017 9:10 am
by sprityo
It's just a theory, but we really need everyone to check in to confirm about silencing

Re: Welcome to Night Vale Mafia [DAY 5]

Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2017 9:25 am
by Boomslang
>Golden posts "Boomslang would be a great lynch today"
>Golden gets killed.

What a suspiciously convenient setup to build off gathering momentum in the thread!
Dom wrote: Wed Jul 26, 2017 12:14 am Boomslang.
Who is bad and why
Who do you trust?
My suspects:
TSP, mainly now because of "I can't tell you for reasons. I'm not a bad guy. I didn't know if that would even happen that way. I am kind of to blame for Elo's death, but I believed she was anti town more than INH and didn't want to tip it." Now that Tamika's dead, his secrets are almost certainly not civ.

Speedchuck, because of this whole very conscious self-doubt thing over typos and not voting Rico last lynch. I think he really didn't want to take responsibility for breaking the tie to lynch another civ and looking like he was saving someone.

Wilgy a bit, because after last night's kill, I think his list of me, Golden, and Epi as the game-ending three is just dead wrong.

Spirityo a bit, because he seems so diametrically opposed to my own reads right now that something must be wrong.

People I trust:
Me
Rico
Dom
Epi
INH
Quin

Re: Welcome to Night Vale Mafia [DAY 5]

Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2017 9:32 am
by sprityo
Opposed how? I don't remember interacting much at all with you boomslang?

Re: Welcome to Night Vale Mafia [DAY 5]

Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2017 9:57 am
by sprityo
Speedchuck, youre not aligned with Eloh, correct?

do you think eloh was Kevin or Hiram?

Re: Welcome to Night Vale Mafia [DAY 5]

Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2017 10:32 am
by speedchuck
sprityo wrote: Wed Jul 26, 2017 9:57 am Speedchuck, youre not aligned with Eloh, correct?

do you think eloh was Kevin or Hiram?
Assuming that Eloh was Hiram or Kevin, no. I am not knowingly aligned with Eloh.

I feel like Kevin is more likely to flip as Cecil, but Hiram is a wild card as well, and one that (if I recall) was hinted at in the cecil text.
My money is on Hiram.

Re: Welcome to Night Vale Mafia [DAY 5]

Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2017 10:34 am
by Jackofhearts2005
Spoiler: show
LoRab wrote: Wed Jul 26, 2017 12:42 am *offers around zombie popcorn*
I'll take two.

Re: Welcome to Night Vale Mafia [DAY 5]

Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2017 11:22 am
by speedchuck
Boomslang wrote: Wed Jul 26, 2017 9:25 am Speedchuck, because of this whole very conscious self-doubt thing over typos and not voting Rico last lynch. I think he really didn't want to take responsibility for breaking the tie to lynch another civ and looking like he was saving someone.
If Jack was scum, this might make sense.

He wasn't. It doesn't.

Re: Welcome to Night Vale Mafia [DAY 5]

Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2017 11:40 am
by TonyStarkPrime
speedchuck wrote: Wed Jul 26, 2017 11:22 am
Boomslang wrote: Wed Jul 26, 2017 9:25 am Speedchuck, because of this whole very conscious self-doubt thing over typos and not voting Rico last lynch. I think he really didn't want to take responsibility for breaking the tie to lynch another civ and looking like he was saving someone.
If Jack was scum, this might make sense.

He wasn't. It doesn't.
It makes sense if you are scum with Rico.

Actually, it makes sense no matter what. You could have info that suggests to you both are town and you don't want to be cast in a negative light for putting a late vote on a townie.

@Boom/ Dom I think I've heard the typo thing before but I could only find one instance. Is there another?

Re: Welcome to Night Vale Mafia [DAY 5]

Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2017 11:50 am
by Ricochet
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Re: Welcome to Night Vale Mafia [DAY 5]

Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2017 12:01 pm
by speedchuck
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Wed Jul 26, 2017 11:40 am
speedchuck wrote: Wed Jul 26, 2017 11:22 am
Boomslang wrote: Wed Jul 26, 2017 9:25 am Speedchuck, because of this whole very conscious self-doubt thing over typos and not voting Rico last lynch. I think he really didn't want to take responsibility for breaking the tie to lynch another civ and looking like he was saving someone.
If Jack was scum, this might make sense.

He wasn't. It doesn't.
It makes sense if you are scum with Rico.

Actually, it makes sense no matter what. You could have info that suggests to you both are town and you don't want to be cast in a negative light for putting a late vote on a townie.
"Scum with Rico"
lol. Then I would have voted Jack without reservation.
Or I would have bussed Rico out of irritation.

"Info that suggests you both are town, fear being late decision on a town lynch"
So Mafia are never on the tail end of a lynch. Gotcha.
For the record, when I voted, I'm pretty sure there were plenty of people left to vote.

Re: Welcome to Night Vale Mafia [DAY 5]

Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2017 12:41 pm
by sprityo
Hoping to hear from INH, DrWilgy and Epi today

Re: Welcome to Night Vale Mafia [DAY 5]

Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2017 1:00 pm
by insertnamehere
sprityo wrote: Wed Jul 26, 2017 12:41 pm Hoping to hear from INH, DrWilgy and Epi today
I'm here and not cursed/silenced or what have you.

I'll try and do an updated rainbow list at some point today.

Re: Welcome to Night Vale Mafia [DAY 5]

Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2017 1:34 pm
by sprityo
@Dom if Epi was "silenced" again today, what would you make of it?

Re: Welcome to Night Vale Mafia [DAY 5]

Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2017 2:46 pm
by speedchuck
Wasn't Epi silenced yesterday though?

Re: Welcome to Night Vale Mafia [DAY 5]

Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2017 2:47 pm
by DrWilgy
sprityo wrote: Wed Jul 26, 2017 12:41 pm Hoping to hear from INH, DrWilgy and Epi today
Nope.

Let's lynch Epi and Boomslang and end this game.

Re: Welcome to Night Vale Mafia [DAY 5]

Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2017 3:06 pm
by speedchuck
DrWilgy wrote: Wed Jul 26, 2017 2:47 pm
sprityo wrote: Wed Jul 26, 2017 12:41 pm Hoping to hear from INH, DrWilgy and Epi today
Nope.

Let's lynch Epi and Boomslang and end this game.
Which mafia team would you match them to?

Re: Welcome to Night Vale Mafia [DAY 5]

Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2017 3:35 pm
by Dom
sprityo wrote: Wed Jul 26, 2017 9:09 am Dom, reading up on the lore of welcome to nightvale, it would seem actually that Kevin would be more likely to reveal as Cecil than hiram.

Kevin has a much more extensive past with Cecil it would seem AND they're both radio hosts.

Hiram is more so a fugitive, although his role is odd in that the secret.

I'm not sure how well the game follows the lore, I would think decently close, but i think Hiram's actual power is to survive the first attempt in his life. Or something to do with the personalities of his five heads
That makes sense. And one of the baddies should have a power to cause confusion in regards to the civvie that has 2 lives, otherwise you out her.
sprityo wrote: Wed Jul 26, 2017 9:10 am And if that's the case, that eloh was Kevin, then it would only make sense that Epi is Marcus
Or boomslang.

Boomslang wrote: Wed Jul 26, 2017 9:25 am >Golden posts "Boomslang would be a great lynch today"
>Golden gets killed.

What a suspiciously convenient setup to build off gathering momentum in the thread!
Dom wrote: Wed Jul 26, 2017 12:14 am Boomslang.
Who is bad and why
Who do you trust?
My suspects:
TSP, mainly now because of "I can't tell you for reasons. I'm not a bad guy. I didn't know if that would even happen that way. I am kind of to blame for Elo's death, but I believed she was anti town more than INH and didn't want to tip it." Now that Tamika's dead, his secrets are almost certainly not civ.

Speedchuck, because of this whole very conscious self-doubt thing over typos and not voting Rico last lynch. I think he really didn't want to take responsibility for breaking the tie to lynch another civ and looking like he was saving someone.

Wilgy a bit, because after last night's kill, I think his list of me, Golden, and Epi as the game-ending three is just dead wrong.

Spirityo a bit, because he seems so diametrically opposed to my own reads right now that something must be wrong.

People I trust:
Me
Rico
Dom
Epi
INH
Quin
It would be *convenient* if the strex mafia had killed golden and not hte politicians since the running theory is that you're Marcus.

But k.
sprityo wrote: Wed Jul 26, 2017 1:34 pm @Dom if Epi was "silenced" again today, what would you make of it?
One of them would be fake.
speedchuck wrote: Wed Jul 26, 2017 3:06 pm
DrWilgy wrote: Wed Jul 26, 2017 2:47 pm
sprityo wrote: Wed Jul 26, 2017 12:41 pm Hoping to hear from INH, DrWilgy and Epi today
Nope.

Let's lynch Epi and Boomslang and end this game.
Which mafia team would you match them to?
They can't each be on the same.
But probably boomslang to Marcus?
Epi to politician?

Re: Welcome to Night Vale Mafia [DAY 5]

Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2017 3:41 pm
by sprityo
speedchuck wrote: Wed Jul 26, 2017 2:46 pm Wasn't Epi silenced yesterday though?
Oh right, there's no double targetting

Good catch

Re: Welcome to Night Vale Mafia [DAY 5]

Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2017 3:41 pm
by speedchuck
I can match Boomslang to marcus. It's Epi to pol that I'm trying to figure out

Re: Welcome to Night Vale Mafia [DAY 5]

Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2017 3:45 pm
by Dom
You and rico are my other two options for pol.

Re: Welcome to Night Vale Mafia [DAY 5]

Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2017 3:50 pm
by speedchuck
Rico is a weird option. Golden was convinced he wasn't Pol, but his interactions with Pol have been weird.

Assuming Rico's telling the truth, the curse is on him again today, and it obviously isn't a reference or a joke.
Why would Pol drop the joke to hammer down on Rico?

Re: Welcome to Night Vale Mafia [DAY 5]

Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2017 3:52 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
sprityo wrote: Wed Jul 26, 2017 3:41 pm
speedchuck wrote: Wed Jul 26, 2017 2:46 pm Wasn't Epi silenced yesterday though?
Oh right, there's no double targetting

Good catch
Townies would have no reason to fake silence, right? So either crazy stuff would have to happen or he's on one team or another. Anything I'm missing?

Re: Welcome to Night Vale Mafia [DAY 5]

Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2017 3:54 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
speedchuck wrote: Wed Jul 26, 2017 3:50 pm Rico is a weird option. Golden was convinced he wasn't Pol, but his interactions with Pol have been weird.

Assuming Rico's telling the truth, the curse is on him again today, and it obviously isn't a reference or a joke.
Why would Pol drop the joke to hammer down on Rico?
They either want him dead or don't want him dead.

That ended up being a lot less clear than I thought it would be.

He is either correctly scumreading pols and they had to remove him in case he had info or he is pol and needs support for his actions.

Re: Welcome to Night Vale Mafia [DAY 5]

Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2017 3:58 pm
by speedchuck
Rico is either cursed or fake-cursed today, with something actually limiting. Examining both of those options:

1. Rico has been legit cursed. That would mean that the Politicians have a reason to curse him. Rico has some knowledge that he just got recently. No idea how that's possible, or whether Rico could actually get it across to us even without the curse.

2. Rico is faking it. He is a politician, and has faked two curses while using two other in a weird theme-y way. Pros: Rico is clearly all about the post gimmicks. He's also been blaming INH for being FOL all game, and INH is... not that? I forget why we confirmed that, but I have a good town read on INH. Rico is not being harassed over his use of smilies today.
Con: 2 self-targets with a decently powerful role is bonkers. Then again, politician's whole play is bonkers. Also Golden's argument, which I'm not looking back up right now.

Re: Welcome to Night Vale Mafia [DAY 5]

Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2017 4:06 pm
by speedchuck
I forget, is there a reason we're ruling Boomslang out as a politician? I know he could be Strex.

Re: Welcome to Night Vale Mafia [DAY 5]

Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2017 4:11 pm
by Ricochet
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Re: Welcome to Night Vale Mafia [DAY 5]

Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2017 4:14 pm
by sprityo
Personally I want to say Kevin was eloh, who's secret was to reveal as Cecil due to lore things

In doing so, Epi had to fake being silenced. Who were the people that we had marked as maybe Marcus?

Dom said:
Dom wrote: Wed Jul 26, 2017 1:24 am Through some deductive reasoning (vote records, etc) I have deduced that Marcus must be one of the following players:
Boomslang
DFaraday
Epignosis
Ricochet

Of those, I think Boomslang is most likely to be Marcus
I can agree with this but I'm sticking by Epi being marcus. Unless for whatever reason that Hiram had the role reveal as his secret.

That's he only piece I'm missing I think is whether eloh was Kevin or hiram

Re: Welcome to Night Vale Mafia [DAY 5]

Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2017 4:15 pm
by sprityo
As for who could be politicians? I'm not so sure at the moment

Re: Welcome to Night Vale Mafia [DAY 5]

Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2017 4:15 pm
by Dom
speedchuck wrote: Wed Jul 26, 2017 3:50 pm Rico is a weird option. Golden was convinced he wasn't Pol, but his interactions with Pol have been weird.

Assuming Rico's telling the truth, the curse is on him again today, and it obviously isn't a reference or a joke.
Why would Pol drop the joke to hammer down on Rico?
No clue.
speedchuck wrote: Wed Jul 26, 2017 4:06 pm I forget, is there a reason we're ruling Boomslang out as a politician? I know he could be Strex.
He could be.
I just think he's Marcus.

Re: Welcome to Night Vale Mafia [DAY 5]

Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2017 4:17 pm
by Dom
sprityo wrote: Wed Jul 26, 2017 4:14 pm
That's he only piece I'm missing I think is whether eloh was Kevin or hiram
I'm leaning Kevin, but then we have two politicians alive, right?

Re: Welcome to Night Vale Mafia [DAY 5]

Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2017 4:19 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
sprityo wrote: Wed Jul 26, 2017 4:14 pm Personally I want to say Kevin was eloh, who's secret was to reveal as Cecil due to lore things

In doing so, Epi had to fake being silenced. Who were the people that we had marked as maybe Marcus?

Dom said:
Dom wrote: Wed Jul 26, 2017 1:24 am Through some deductive reasoning (vote records, etc) I have deduced that Marcus must be one of the following players:
Boomslang
DFaraday
Epignosis
Ricochet

Of those, I think Boomslang is most likely to be Marcus
I can agree with this but I'm sticking by Epi being marcus. Unless for whatever reason that Hiram had the role reveal as his secret.

That's he only piece I'm missing I think is whether eloh was Kevin or hiram
But why would he fake being silenced twice in a row? I feel like today he has to actually be silenced. He wouldn't fake it twice in a row, that would be stupid. Eloh would almost have to be Hiram then. But that would make less sense. So there could be another silencer, but then why didn't it come up earlier?

Re: Welcome to Night Vale Mafia [DAY 5]

Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2017 4:25 pm
by sprityo
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Wed Jul 26, 2017 4:19 pm
sprityo wrote: Wed Jul 26, 2017 4:14 pm Personally I want to say Kevin was eloh, who's secret was to reveal as Cecil due to lore things

In doing so, Epi had to fake being silenced. Who were the people that we had marked as maybe Marcus?

Dom said:
Dom wrote: Wed Jul 26, 2017 1:24 am Through some deductive reasoning (vote records, etc) I have deduced that Marcus must be one of the following players:
Boomslang
DFaraday
Epignosis
Ricochet

Of those, I think Boomslang is most likely to be Marcus
I can agree with this but I'm sticking by Epi being marcus. Unless for whatever reason that Hiram had the role reveal as his secret.

That's he only piece I'm missing I think is whether eloh was Kevin or hiram
But why would he fake being silenced twice in a row? I feel like today he has to actually be silenced. He wouldn't fake it twice in a row, that would be stupid. Eloh would almost have to be Hiram then. But that would make less sense. So there could be another silencer, but then why didn't it come up earlier?
I don't think Epi is the kind of person to just miss a whole 24 hour period to come in after the phase is over. I mean he didn't even vote (I think)

It may be the fact he is abstaining from talking now and yesterday since he knows we are gonna ask him questions and that will inevitably fail on him?

Re: Welcome to Night Vale Mafia [DAY 5]

Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2017 4:31 pm
by sprityo
I want to say it's either one strex, one politician: one strex, two politician; or no strex, two politician

The last one being my unlikely assumption

We also have to consider the independent, who we are assuming is TSP

Re: Welcome to Night Vale Mafia [DAY 5]

Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2017 4:40 pm
by Dom
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Wed Jul 26, 2017 4:19 pm
sprityo wrote: Wed Jul 26, 2017 4:14 pm Personally I want to say Kevin was eloh, who's secret was to reveal as Cecil due to lore things

In doing so, Epi had to fake being silenced. Who were the people that we had marked as maybe Marcus?

Dom said:
Dom wrote: Wed Jul 26, 2017 1:24 am Through some deductive reasoning (vote records, etc) I have deduced that Marcus must be one of the following players:
Boomslang
DFaraday
Epignosis
Ricochet

Of those, I think Boomslang is most likely to be Marcus
I can agree with this but I'm sticking by Epi being marcus. Unless for whatever reason that Hiram had the role reveal as his secret.

That's he only piece I'm missing I think is whether eloh was Kevin or hiram
But why would he fake being silenced twice in a row? I feel like today he has to actually be silenced. He wouldn't fake it twice in a row, that would be stupid. Eloh would almost have to be Hiram then. But that would make less sense. So there could be another silencer, but then why didn't it come up earlier?
Perhaps he is gonna post today.

I don't know.

Re: Welcome to Night Vale Mafia [DAY 5]

Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2017 4:40 pm
by Dom
sprityo wrote: Wed Jul 26, 2017 4:31 pm I want to say it's either one strex, one politician: one strex, two politician; or no strex, two politician

The last one being my unlikely assumption

We also have to consider the independent, who we are assuming is TSP
Why are there only two baddies alive?

Re: Welcome to Night Vale Mafia [DAY 5]

Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2017 4:43 pm
by speedchuck
Dom wrote: Wed Jul 26, 2017 4:40 pm
sprityo wrote: Wed Jul 26, 2017 4:31 pm I want to say it's either one strex, one politician: one strex, two politician; or no strex, two politician

The last one being my unlikely assumption

We also have to consider the independent, who we are assuming is TSP
Why are there only two baddies alive?

Re: Welcome to Night Vale Mafia [DAY 5]

Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2017 4:44 pm
by Dom
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Re: Welcome to Night Vale Mafia [DAY 5]

Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2017 4:45 pm
by Dom
words are hard.